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Sofa Spud
Dec 28, 2011, 4:36:05 PM12/28/11
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Not Mumbai but Bombay , no comment, just Bombay.Muff!! What I want to
know is not where they got the Jag the mini and the rolls from but where
they got the Allegro? The former are easy enough to get but the allegro
isn't any more!
Great fun - just plain daft, loved the lethal roads and the tin can
cricket at the end when they ran out of things to do.
Good stuff
know is not where they got the Jag the mini and the rolls from but where
they got the Allegro? The former are easy enough to get but the allegro
isn't any more!
Great fun - just plain daft, loved the lethal roads and the tin can
cricket at the end when they ran out of things to do.
Good stuff
MC
Dec 28, 2011, 7:19:20 PM12/28/11
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all set ups but they seemed more obvious than ever in this episode.
Maybe they are running out of genuinely original ideas. However, all
that said, it was a fun watch, as always.
MC
AC
Dec 28, 2011, 8:44:30 PM12/28/11
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don't think it was an ideas problem, more an execution problem. Sort of
sloppy.
I wonder if every one involved is beginning to get a bit bored of the
whole thing, and less care and attention to detail was given. Didn't
seem as epically well filmed either.
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AC
NoSpamThanks
Dec 28, 2011, 10:22:59 PM12/28/11
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"AC" <x...@xxx.xxx> wrote in message news:5CPKq.144382$aq.4...@newsfe06.ams2...
There was nothing we have not seen before; nothing not reprised
from earlier series. The comically torn signs, minor sabotage of
each other's cars, seen it, done it, bought the tee-shirt.
The presenters' artificial cynicism was also undermined by, and
itself undermined, the genuine engagement and even affection
at times of the Indians.
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NST.
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Thumper
Dec 29, 2011, 7:54:13 AM12/29/11
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"MC" <a...@any.any> wrote in message
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also used by the Ice Road Truckers in a recent channel 4 programme. The top
gear boys coped with it quite easily, whilst the american truckers were
shit-scared most of the time. Shows you how a clever camera angle can make
something worse than it really is. 99% of the tragic accidents on that road
are the fault of the hopeless Indian drivers.
Mark Carver
Dec 29, 2011, 9:34:50 AM12/29/11
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Thumper wrote:
> 99% of the
> tragic accidents on that road are the fault of the hopeless Indian drivers.
Well seeing as 99% of the drivers on that road are Indian, that's not really
> 99% of the
> tragic accidents on that road are the fault of the hopeless Indian drivers.
surprising.
Interesting we saw the producer Andy Wilman in shot on vocals when they were
performing as a band, but no actual reference to him ?
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Dec 29, 2011, 11:19:30 AM12/29/11
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Dec 29, 2011, 1:38:34 PM12/29/11
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On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:44:30 +0000
AC <x...@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>I did enjoy it, but yeah, it did seem more contrived than normal. I
The collision between the jag and a truck looked genuine to me though.
AC <x...@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>I did enjoy it, but yeah, it did seem more contrived than normal. I
The way the indian driver just fucked off was pretty typical.
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Sofa Spud
Dec 29, 2011, 2:10:03 PM12/29/11
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happening next. They need something really new and different. That said
well enjoyed it, better than most stuff on over the break.
Sofa Spud
Dec 29, 2011, 2:11:08 PM12/29/11
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Sofa Spud
Dec 29, 2011, 2:15:23 PM12/29/11
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know how they organised the garden party, who did they call to get that
sorted.
Sofa Spud
Dec 29, 2011, 2:29:16 PM12/29/11
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thing we have , it's knock for knock it seems.
Sofa Spud
Dec 29, 2011, 2:38:54 PM12/29/11
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Sofa Spud
Dec 29, 2011, 2:40:07 PM12/29/11
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On 29/12/2011 14:34, Mark Carver wrote:
> Thumper wrote:
>
>> 99% of the tragic accidents on that road are the fault of the hopeless
>> Indian drivers.
>
> Well seeing as 99% of the drivers on that road are Indian, that's not
> really surprising.
>
> Interesting we saw the producer Andy Wilman in shot on vocals when they
> were performing as a band, but no actual reference to him ?
>
>
Wasn't he credited in the (squashed, well done BBC , twats) credits as
> Thumper wrote:
>
>> 99% of the tragic accidents on that road are the fault of the hopeless
>> Indian drivers.
>
> Well seeing as 99% of the drivers on that road are Indian, that's not
> really surprising.
>
> Interesting we saw the producer Andy Wilman in shot on vocals when they
> were performing as a band, but no actual reference to him ?
>
>
*35 pints of lager* Andy?
AC
Dec 29, 2011, 5:38:45 PM12/29/11
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NoSpamThanks wrote:
> "AC"<x...@xxx.xxx> wrote in message news:5CPKq.144382$aq.4...@newsfe06.ams2...
>> MC wrote:
>>> Sofa Spud wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not Mumbai but Bombay , no comment, just Bombay.Muff!! What I want to
>>>> know is not where they got the Jag the mini and the rolls from but
>>>> where they got the Allegro? The former are easy enough to get but the
>>>> allegro isn't any more!
>>>>
>>>> Great fun - just plain daft, loved the lethal roads and the tin can
>>>> cricket at the end when they ran out of things to do.
>>>>
>>>> Good stuff
>>>
>>> We all know that the ridiculous situations they find themselves in are
>>> all set ups but they seemed more obvious than ever in this episode.
>>> Maybe they are running out of genuinely original ideas. However, all
>>> that said, it was a fun watch, as always.
>>>
>>> MC
>>
>> I did enjoy it, but yeah, it did seem more contrived than normal. I don't think it was an ideas problem, more an execution
>> problem. Sort of sloppy.
>>
>> I wonder if every one involved is beginning to get a bit bored of the whole thing, and less care and attention to detail was
>> given. Didn't seem as epically well filmed either.
>>
>
> It seemed almost like a greatest hits tour by a re-formed band.
> There was nothing we have not seen before; nothing not reprised
> from earlier series. The comically torn signs, minor sabotage of
> each other's cars, seen it, done it, bought the tee-shirt.
I know what you mean there.
> "AC"<x...@xxx.xxx> wrote in message news:5CPKq.144382$aq.4...@newsfe06.ams2...
>> MC wrote:
>>> Sofa Spud wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not Mumbai but Bombay , no comment, just Bombay.Muff!! What I want to
>>>> know is not where they got the Jag the mini and the rolls from but
>>>> where they got the Allegro? The former are easy enough to get but the
>>>> allegro isn't any more!
>>>>
>>>> Great fun - just plain daft, loved the lethal roads and the tin can
>>>> cricket at the end when they ran out of things to do.
>>>>
>>>> Good stuff
>>>
>>> We all know that the ridiculous situations they find themselves in are
>>> all set ups but they seemed more obvious than ever in this episode.
>>> Maybe they are running out of genuinely original ideas. However, all
>>> that said, it was a fun watch, as always.
>>>
>>> MC
>>
>> I did enjoy it, but yeah, it did seem more contrived than normal. I don't think it was an ideas problem, more an execution
>> problem. Sort of sloppy.
>>
>> I wonder if every one involved is beginning to get a bit bored of the whole thing, and less care and attention to detail was
>> given. Didn't seem as epically well filmed either.
>>
>
> It seemed almost like a greatest hits tour by a re-formed band.
> There was nothing we have not seen before; nothing not reprised
> from earlier series. The comically torn signs, minor sabotage of
> each other's cars, seen it, done it, bought the tee-shirt.
I would suggest that its not the repetition of "the old classics" as it
were, but the lack of a fresh way to deliver it.
I mean, I want the sabotage, the bumps, etc but it has to be done in a
fresh way each time. Taking your band analogy, we do want the classic
songs each time, but we like it more when they update them and make them
slightly different each time..
>
> The presenters' artificial cynicism was also undermined by, and
> itself undermined, the genuine engagement and even affection
> at times of the Indians.
>
like that, its human.
In fact, now you point it out, its probably my favourite bit and perhaps
reason alone to watch it.
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AC
AC
Dec 29, 2011, 5:39:35 PM12/29/11
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Martin wrote:
> Maybe it is for the younger generation?
Always has been. Its absolutely TG Lite. And nothing wrong with that. It
works well.
--
AC
>
>>
>> The presenters' artificial cynicism was also undermined by, and
>> itself undermined, the genuine engagement and even affection
>> at times of the Indians.
>
> and Three Men in a Boat has turned into TG afloat.
>>
>> The presenters' artificial cynicism was also undermined by, and
>> itself undermined, the genuine engagement and even affection
>> at times of the Indians.
>
Always has been. Its absolutely TG Lite. And nothing wrong with that. It
works well.
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AC
AC
Dec 29, 2011, 5:45:11 PM12/29/11
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figured that India perhaps invited them there. Lets face it, one way or
another that was a 1.5hr prime time advert for India. Yeah, they took
the piss, but I know I came away with a good impression of the place,
rather than a bad one.
To go further, I bet a lot of people at that party were or are well
known in India. They sure as hell knew what was going on. You dont let
off and explosion and cause panic like that with out prior knowledge.
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AC
NoSpamThanks
Dec 30, 2011, 3:46:19 AM12/30/11
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"Sofa Spud" <comfy...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:jdg2a5$o9o$1...@dont-email.me...
> Not Mumbai but Bombay , no comment, just Bombay.Muff!! What I want to know is not where they got the Jag the mini and the rolls
> from but where they got the Allegro? The former are easy enough to get but the allegro isn't any more!
>
If they are not going to use new cars, I'd have like to have seen
> from but where they got the Allegro? The former are easy enough to get but the allegro isn't any more!
>
used ones more representative of what people actually buy.
New Rolls-Royces and Jaguars are cars we can admire and
aspire to, even if we cannot afford them, and there may well
be a trickle down effect for both luxury and technology items,
just as now electric windows and air-conditioning feature on
the smallest cars but were once the preserve of the rich, and
adaptive cruise control is now starting to appear lower down
the range.
But what is the point of 20-year-old Silver Shadows and XJSs?
I'd rather see a two-year old Mondeo or Golf because those are
the sort of used cars their viewers will buy, so seeing how they cope
with hundreds of miles in Indian conditions might actually be useful.
There should not be a tension between cocking about in cars
(as Top Gear terms it) and reviewing them. All the stunts and
jokes (well, most of them: I'd be more interested in whether
the air-conditioning coped with the Indian heat without it
having been sabotaged) could have been retained.
--
NST.
Norman Wells
Dec 30, 2011, 4:01:38 AM12/30/11
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Sofa Spud
Dec 30, 2011, 6:41:43 AM12/30/11
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Sofa Spud
Dec 30, 2011, 6:45:36 AM12/30/11
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different to this. There is no reason that without proper servicing a
Mondeo would be perfectly fine in India. Being unserviced is the same
anywhere in the world.
Different show you need - like Fifth Gear, but then that's the problem ,
few people actually want to watch a car based show.
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Sofa Spud
Dec 30, 2011, 7:13:56 AM12/30/11
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On 30/12/2011 11:52, Martin wrote:
> Just as few laughed at them in Vietnam.
Don't tell me you watched in slow motion to check?
Or were you there checking up when they made it to see no one tittered
off camera.
What were you watching for anyway you don't like TG? don't say you
watched just so you could moan here.
> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 11:41:43 +0000, Sofa Spud
> <comfy...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>> To go further, I bet a lot of people at that party were or are well
>>> known in India. They sure as hell knew what was going on. You dont let
>>> off and explosion and cause panic like that with out prior knowledge.
>>>
>>
>> Plus they all had a good laugh and got to be on telly!
>
> Take another look hardly anybody anywhere they went in India laughed.
> <comfy...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>> To go further, I bet a lot of people at that party were or are well
>>> known in India. They sure as hell knew what was going on. You dont let
>>> off and explosion and cause panic like that with out prior knowledge.
>>>
>>
>> Plus they all had a good laugh and got to be on telly!
>
> Just as few laughed at them in Vietnam.
Don't tell me you watched in slow motion to check?
Or were you there checking up when they made it to see no one tittered
off camera.
What were you watching for anyway you don't like TG? don't say you
watched just so you could moan here.
Sofa Spud
Dec 30, 2011, 7:14:49 AM12/30/11
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On 30/12/2011 11:55, Martin wrote:
> There has recently been a similar BBC programme with two cars being
> driven north south in India. One was a new Tata 4WD and I forget what
> the other car was
Wasn't about the cars though was it, it was about the drivers. Or more
correctly a couple got a free holiday off the BBC.
> driven north south in India. One was a new Tata 4WD and I forget what
> the other car was
Wasn't about the cars though was it, it was about the drivers. Or more
correctly a couple got a free holiday off the BBC.
MC
Dec 30, 2011, 7:19:32 AM12/30/11
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NoSpamThanks wrote:
>
> If they are not going to use new cars, I'd have like to have seen
> used ones more representative of what people actually buy.
>
> New Rolls-Royces and Jaguars are cars we can admire and
> aspire to, even if we cannot afford them, and there may well
> be a trickle down effect for both luxury and technology items,
> just as now electric windows and air-conditioning feature on
> the smallest cars but were once the preserve of the rich, and
> adaptive cruise control is now starting to appear lower down
> the range.
You really didn't get the point of the show did you?
>
> If they are not going to use new cars, I'd have like to have seen
> used ones more representative of what people actually buy.
>
> New Rolls-Royces and Jaguars are cars we can admire and
> aspire to, even if we cannot afford them, and there may well
> be a trickle down effect for both luxury and technology items,
> just as now electric windows and air-conditioning feature on
> the smallest cars but were once the preserve of the rich, and
> adaptive cruise control is now starting to appear lower down
> the range.
> But what is the point of 20-year-old Silver Shadows and XJSs?
> I'd rather see a two-year old Mondeo or Golf because those are
> the sort of used cars their viewers will buy, so seeing how they cope
> with hundreds of miles in Indian conditions might actually be useful.
> There should not be a tension between cocking about in cars
> (as Top Gear terms it) and reviewing them. All the stunts and
> jokes (well, most of them: I'd be more interested in whether
> the air-conditioning coped with the Indian heat without it
> having been sabotaged) could have been retained.
MC
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Sofa Spud
Dec 30, 2011, 7:58:50 AM12/30/11
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On 30/12/2011 12:31, Martin wrote:
> TG isn't about cars either, they get paid holidays off the BBC. :-)
> The Three Men series is all about GRJ getting paid holidays.
No in that show they made no effort at entertainment , like TG or TM ,
they just seemed to be enjoying the break and that was that.
> The Three Men series is all about GRJ getting paid holidays.
No in that show they made no effort at entertainment , like TG or TM ,
they just seemed to be enjoying the break and that was that.
Sofa Spud
Dec 30, 2011, 8:02:17 AM12/30/11
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On 30/12/2011 12:35, Martin wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 12:13:56 +0000, Sofa Spud
Did you check all of them ? were you there?
>
>>
>> Or were you there checking up when they made it to see no one tittered
>> off camera.
>
> You seem to think the locals find them funny. In your dreams
> There's not a lot funny in two overweight middle aged men behaving
> like 15 year old public school louts.
>
Oh FFS martin get a grip - you don't like it, fair enough , many
disagree. You have no evidence other than in your own mind that the
locals didn't find them funny - none at all.
>>
>> What were you watching for anyway you don't like TG? don't say you
>> watched just so you could moan here.
>
> Moan = fair comment.
>
> Because two out of the six of us are TG fans and I don't hog the
> controller
Pathetic even for you martin.
> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 12:13:56 +0000, Sofa Spud
> <comfy...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 30/12/2011 11:52, Martin wrote:
>>> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 11:41:43 +0000, Sofa Spud
>>> <comfy...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> To go further, I bet a lot of people at that party were or are well
>>>>> known in India. They sure as hell knew what was going on. You dont let
>>>>> off and explosion and cause panic like that with out prior knowledge.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Plus they all had a good laugh and got to be on telly!
>>>
>>> Take another look hardly anybody anywhere they went in India laughed.
>>> Just as few laughed at them in Vietnam.
>>
>> Don't tell me you watched in slow motion to check?
>
> Why slow motion?
>
>> On 30/12/2011 11:52, Martin wrote:
>>> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 11:41:43 +0000, Sofa Spud
>>> <comfy...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> To go further, I bet a lot of people at that party were or are well
>>>>> known in India. They sure as hell knew what was going on. You dont let
>>>>> off and explosion and cause panic like that with out prior knowledge.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Plus they all had a good laugh and got to be on telly!
>>>
>>> Take another look hardly anybody anywhere they went in India laughed.
>>> Just as few laughed at them in Vietnam.
>>
>> Don't tell me you watched in slow motion to check?
>
Did you check all of them ? were you there?
>
>>
>> Or were you there checking up when they made it to see no one tittered
>> off camera.
>
> There's not a lot funny in two overweight middle aged men behaving
> like 15 year old public school louts.
>
Oh FFS martin get a grip - you don't like it, fair enough , many
disagree. You have no evidence other than in your own mind that the
locals didn't find them funny - none at all.
>>
>> What were you watching for anyway you don't like TG? don't say you
>> watched just so you could moan here.
>
>
> Because two out of the six of us are TG fans and I don't hog the
> controller
Pathetic even for you martin.
Fred X
Dec 30, 2011, 9:21:25 AM12/30/11
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On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 09:13:07 -0000, Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 03:22:59 -0000, "NoSpamThanks"
> On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 03:22:59 -0000, "NoSpamThanks"
> <nospam...@dev.null> wrote:
>
>>
>> "AC" <x...@xxx.xxx> wrote in message
>> news:5CPKq.144382$aq.4...@newsfe06.ams2...
>>> MC wrote:
>>>> Sofa Spud wrote:
>>>>
>
>>
>> "AC" <x...@xxx.xxx> wrote in message
>> news:5CPKq.144382$aq.4...@newsfe06.ams2...
>>> MC wrote:
>>>> Sofa Spud wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Not Mumbai but Bombay , no comment, just Bombay.Muff!! What I want to
>>>>> know is not where they got the Jag the mini and the rolls from but
>>>>> where they got the Allegro? The former are easy enough to get but the
>>>>> allegro isn't any more!
>>>>>
>>>>> know is not where they got the Jag the mini and the rolls from but
>>>>> where they got the Allegro? The former are easy enough to get but the
>>>>> allegro isn't any more!
>>>>>
>>>>> Great fun - just plain daft, loved the lethal roads and the tin can
>>>>> cricket at the end when they ran out of things to do.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good stuff
>>>>
>>>> We all know that the ridiculous situations they find themselves in are
>>>> all set ups but they seemed more obvious than ever in this episode.
>>>> Maybe they are running out of genuinely original ideas. However, all
>>>> that said, it was a fun watch, as always.
>>>>
>>>> MC
>>>
>>> I did enjoy it, but yeah, it did seem more contrived than normal. I
>>> don't think it was an ideas problem, more an execution
>>> problem. Sort of sloppy.
>>>
>>> I wonder if every one involved is beginning to get a bit bored of the
>>> whole thing, and less care and attention to detail was
>>> given. Didn't seem as epically well filmed either.
>>>
>>
>> It seemed almost like a greatest hits tour by a re-formed band.
>> There was nothing we have not seen before; nothing not reprised
>> from earlier series. The comically torn signs, minor sabotage of
>> each other's cars, seen it, done it, bought the tee-shirt.
>
>>>>> cricket at the end when they ran out of things to do.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good stuff
>>>>
>>>> We all know that the ridiculous situations they find themselves in are
>>>> all set ups but they seemed more obvious than ever in this episode.
>>>> Maybe they are running out of genuinely original ideas. However, all
>>>> that said, it was a fun watch, as always.
>>>>
>>>> MC
>>>
>>> I did enjoy it, but yeah, it did seem more contrived than normal. I
>>> don't think it was an ideas problem, more an execution
>>> problem. Sort of sloppy.
>>>
>>> I wonder if every one involved is beginning to get a bit bored of the
>>> whole thing, and less care and attention to detail was
>>> given. Didn't seem as epically well filmed either.
>>>
>>
>> It seemed almost like a greatest hits tour by a re-formed band.
>> There was nothing we have not seen before; nothing not reprised
>> from earlier series. The comically torn signs, minor sabotage of
>> each other's cars, seen it, done it, bought the tee-shirt.
>
> Maybe it is for the younger generation?
>
>>
>
>>
>> The presenters' artificial cynicism was also undermined by, and
>> itself undermined, the genuine engagement and even affection
>> at times of the Indians.
>
>> itself undermined, the genuine engagement and even affection
>> at times of the Indians.
>
> and Three Men in a Boat has turned into TG afloat.
But I've never seen cheerleaders on Top Gear!
Fred X
Fred X
Dec 30, 2011, 9:26:22 AM12/30/11
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go by, they normally ask for thousands of rupees in compensation
when a gullible foreigner hits them.
Fred X
Jethro
Dec 30, 2011, 2:14:30 PM12/30/11
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 08:46:19 +0000, NoSpamThanks wrote:
> But what is the point of 20-year-old Silver Shadows and XJSs? I'd rather
> see a two-year old Mondeo or Golf because those are the sort of used
> cars their viewers will buy, so seeing how they cope with hundreds of
> miles in Indian conditions might actually be useful.
Did you miss the first 10 minutes, where they explained in some detail
> But what is the point of 20-year-old Silver Shadows and XJSs? I'd rather
> see a two-year old Mondeo or Golf because those are the sort of used
> cars their viewers will buy, so seeing how they cope with hundreds of
> miles in Indian conditions might actually be useful.
the logic behind their choice of cars ? To be *British* cars (hence the
older roller - new ones are effectively German).
To be honest, I was astounded the All Aggro made it as far as it did.
Sofa Spud
Dec 30, 2011, 2:30:44 PM12/30/11
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suspension to drop off.
At 39 yrs old the car now has all the little problems sorted out and the
owner now has a reliable car. Such is classic ownership.
allantracy
Dec 30, 2011, 2:54:50 PM12/30/11
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General verdict seems to be below par.
But even a bit below par Top Gear special just has to better than
those, head in the oven, wall to wall Xmas SOAPs.
It says it all really that this was probably the only thing cheerful
or half-decent to be found on the telly over Xmas, in this season of
so-called goodwill.
Quite what kind of goodwill it is to inflict upon us the endless
tedium of manipulative characters playing out their depressing SOAP
lives for hours on end beats me.
Oh I know the feminised kind.
Let's hear it for the sisters, the Xmas suicide rate just went through
the roof, more popular than the sales.
But even a bit below par Top Gear special just has to better than
those, head in the oven, wall to wall Xmas SOAPs.
It says it all really that this was probably the only thing cheerful
or half-decent to be found on the telly over Xmas, in this season of
so-called goodwill.
Quite what kind of goodwill it is to inflict upon us the endless
tedium of manipulative characters playing out their depressing SOAP
lives for hours on end beats me.
Oh I know the feminised kind.
Let's hear it for the sisters, the Xmas suicide rate just went through
the roof, more popular than the sales.
Sofa Spud
Dec 30, 2011, 3:39:04 PM12/30/11
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supposedly feminised TV that you imagine happens in your own thread -
cross posted so all the loons ooze over from UKpolitics , now you want
to start it all up again here. Given you supposedly understand market
forces you must see how TV works - it isn't some pathetic feminine
agenda , it's business.
You really need to get a grip if you feel so emasculated.
Jeff Lawrence
Dec 30, 2011, 4:12:40 PM12/30/11
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On 30/12/2011 19:30, Sofa Spud wrote:
> At 39 yrs old the car now has all the little problems sorted out
I wish I could say the same about myself.
> At 39 yrs old the car now has all the little problems sorted out
Cheers
Jeff
bolta...@boltar.world
Dec 30, 2011, 5:44:25 PM12/30/11
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On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 19:29:16 +0000
Sofa Spud <comfy...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>
>Why? have you been there? they don't have the whole insurance industry
>thing we have , it's knock for knock it seems.
Why? Because none of them can fucking drive to save their lives and have
zero responsibility especially with that whole in the hands of fate shit
they all believe in. And this in a country where all you have to do to get a
license in the first place is put a car in gear and go forward then reverse.
And thats if you don't simply pay a bribe to get it anyway.
B2003
Sofa Spud <comfy...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>On 29/12/2011 18:38, bolta...@boltar.world wrote:
>> On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:44:30 +0000
>> AC<x...@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>>> I did enjoy it, but yeah, it did seem more contrived than normal. I
>>
>> The collision between the jag and a truck looked genuine to me though.
>> The way the indian driver just fucked off was pretty typical.
>>
>> B2003
>> On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:44:30 +0000
>> AC<x...@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>>> I did enjoy it, but yeah, it did seem more contrived than normal. I
>>
>> The collision between the jag and a truck looked genuine to me though.
>> The way the indian driver just fucked off was pretty typical.
>>
>>
>>
>
>Why? have you been there? they don't have the whole insurance industry
>thing we have , it's knock for knock it seems.
Why? Because none of them can fucking drive to save their lives and have
zero responsibility especially with that whole in the hands of fate shit
they all believe in. And this in a country where all you have to do to get a
license in the first place is put a car in gear and go forward then reverse.
And thats if you don't simply pay a bribe to get it anyway.
B2003
NoSpamThanks
Dec 31, 2011, 9:29:33 AM12/31/11
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"Sofa Spud" <comfy...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:jdk8er$q5h$4...@dont-email.me...
> On 30/12/2011 08:46, NoSpamThanks wrote:
>>
>> If they are not going to use new cars, I'd have like to have seen
>> used ones more representative of what people actually buy.
>>
>> New Rolls-Royces and Jaguars are cars we can admire and
>> aspire to, even if we cannot afford them, and there may well
>> be a trickle down effect for both luxury and technology items,
>> just as now electric windows and air-conditioning feature on
>> the smallest cars but were once the preserve of the rich, and
>> adaptive cruise control is now starting to appear lower down
>> the range.
>>
>> But what is the point of 20-year-old Silver Shadows and XJSs?
>> I'd rather see a two-year old Mondeo or Golf because those are
>> the sort of used cars their viewers will buy, so seeing how they cope
>> with hundreds of miles in Indian conditions might actually be useful.
>>
>> There should not be a tension between cocking about in cars
>> (as Top Gear terms it) and reviewing them. All the stunts and
>> jokes (well, most of them: I'd be more interested in whether
>> the air-conditioning coped with the Indian heat without it
>> having been sabotaged) could have been retained.
>>
>
> You miss the point though , it's not about cars. That would be a show different to this.
No, it would be this show done better. Remember they have used new
>>
>> If they are not going to use new cars, I'd have like to have seen
>> used ones more representative of what people actually buy.
>>
>> New Rolls-Royces and Jaguars are cars we can admire and
>> aspire to, even if we cannot afford them, and there may well
>> be a trickle down effect for both luxury and technology items,
>> just as now electric windows and air-conditioning feature on
>> the smallest cars but were once the preserve of the rich, and
>> adaptive cruise control is now starting to appear lower down
>> the range.
>>
>> But what is the point of 20-year-old Silver Shadows and XJSs?
>> I'd rather see a two-year old Mondeo or Golf because those are
>> the sort of used cars their viewers will buy, so seeing how they cope
>> with hundreds of miles in Indian conditions might actually be useful.
>>
>> There should not be a tension between cocking about in cars
>> (as Top Gear terms it) and reviewing them. All the stunts and
>> jokes (well, most of them: I'd be more interested in whether
>> the air-conditioning coped with the Indian heat without it
>> having been sabotaged) could have been retained.
>>
>
> You miss the point though , it's not about cars. That would be a show different to this.
cars in some previous specials, such as in Romania and various races.
There is no reason Top Gear could not inform and entertain at
the same time (two out of Lord Reith's three ain't bad) since
all they'd need to have changed was the choice of cars. The gags
could remain unaltered. These things need not be in opposition to
each other, as Top Gear proves many weeks when the producers
are thinking rather than going through the motions.
--
NST.
Sofa Spud
Dec 31, 2011, 11:15:25 AM12/31/11
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Luke Curtis
Dec 31, 2011, 2:18:00 PM12/31/11
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On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 21:36:05 +0000, Sofa Spud
<comfy...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>Not Mumbai but Bombay , no comment, just Bombay.Muff!! What I want to
>know is not where they got the Jag the mini and the rolls from but where
>they got the Allegro? The former are easy enough to get but the allegro
>isn't any more!
>
>Great fun - just plain daft, loved the lethal roads and the tin can
>cricket at the end when they ran out of things to do.
>
>Good stuff
It was ok but far less fun than some of the other specials, the cars
<comfy...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>Not Mumbai but Bombay , no comment, just Bombay.Muff!! What I want to
>know is not where they got the Jag the mini and the rolls from but where
>they got the Allegro? The former are easy enough to get but the allegro
>isn't any more!
>
>Great fun - just plain daft, loved the lethal roads and the tin can
>cricket at the end when they ran out of things to do.
>
>Good stuff
were too reliable for a start, I don't think there was one single
breakdown was there? the dinner run section was particually poor but
it did improve after that IMHO.
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ButIstillneedtoknowwhat'sinthere! Thekeytoanysecurity
systemishowit'sdesigned! Thatdependsonwhyitwasdesigned!
Ihavetoknowwhatwhoeverdesigneditwastryingtoprotect!
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Felicity S.
Jan 1, 2012, 9:06:23 AM1/1/12
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Luke wrote:
> Sofa Spud wrote:
>> Not Mumbai but Bombay , no comment, just Bombay.Muff!! What I want to
>> know is not where they got the Jag the mini and the rolls from but where
>> they got the Allegro? The former are easy enough to get but the allegro
>> isn't any more!
>> Great fun - just plain daft, loved the lethal roads and the tin can
>> cricket at the end when they ran out of things to do.
marvellous Three Wise Men special of a year ago was equally contrived,
but if so it didn't feel like that, unlike this year.
Was there some significant change to the production staff?
Fliss
--
She said: I understand that it's a bad idea.
He said: So don't worry about it, and be happy you're a machine.
She said: I'm a machine, I can't be happy.
> Sofa Spud wrote:
>> Not Mumbai but Bombay , no comment, just Bombay.Muff!! What I want to
>> know is not where they got the Jag the mini and the rolls from but where
>> they got the Allegro? The former are easy enough to get but the allegro
>> isn't any more!
>> Great fun - just plain daft, loved the lethal roads and the tin can
>> cricket at the end when they ran out of things to do.
> It was ok but far less fun than some of the other specials, the cars
> were too reliable for a start, I don't think there was one single
> breakdown was there? the dinner run section was particually poor but
> it did improve after that IMHO.
We've seen this now and were also most disappointed. I do suppose the
> were too reliable for a start, I don't think there was one single
> breakdown was there? the dinner run section was particually poor but
> it did improve after that IMHO.
marvellous Three Wise Men special of a year ago was equally contrived,
but if so it didn't feel like that, unlike this year.
Was there some significant change to the production staff?
Fliss
--
She said: I understand that it's a bad idea.
He said: So don't worry about it, and be happy you're a machine.
She said: I'm a machine, I can't be happy.
Andrew B.
Jan 1, 2012, 5:08:43 PM1/1/12
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On Jan 1, 2:06 pm, "Felicity S." <Fliss@orpheusnet> wrote:
> We've seen this now and were also most disappointed. I do suppose the
> marvellous Three Wise Men special of a year ago was equally contrived,
> but if so it didn't feel like that, unlike this year.
>
> Was there some significant change to the production staff?
They're a year older and have run out of ideas?
> We've seen this now and were also most disappointed. I do suppose the
> marvellous Three Wise Men special of a year ago was equally contrived,
> but if so it didn't feel like that, unlike this year.
>
> Was there some significant change to the production staff?
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