Hazel Woolley
Siderius Nuncius
Piggy finished an episode a couple of days ago with the words "Hazel's a
nasty piece of work", delivered with such portentous emphasis that I
strongly suspect that she'll appear in Ambridge before long.
This, of course, could lead to the foundation of HWHA (pronounced "hoo-ha").
I hope that baby hippo survives.....we're going to need all we can get.
Regards
Sid
(Shepherds Bush, West London)
Andrew Wineberg
"Siderius Nuncius" <siderius...@tesco.net> wrote:
> Just a belated thought.
> Piggy finished an episode a couple of days ago with the words "Hazel's a
> nasty piece of work", delivered with such portentous emphasis that I
> strongly suspect that she'll appear in Ambridge before long
It's not just you. As soon as those words left Peggy's lips I was left
feeling certain that Hazel will turn up Kenton-fashion at Jack's do,
preferably just as Jack is mouthing off about her to an agreeing
assembly of close family.
> This, of course, could lead to the foundation of HWHA (pronounced "hoo-ha").
> I hope that baby hippo survives.....we're going to need all we can get.
Oh no, Hazel isn't a bad'un at all, just you wait and see.
--
AJW in Stanmore, HA7.
Umrageek: 1979/11 M B>~ G() A(+) L I S- P- CH++ Ar++ T++ ?H ?Q Sh!
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Bob Spowart
Andrew Wineberg wrote in message <491F795215%>
>Oh no, Hazel isn't a bad'un at all, just you wait and see.
>
When she was last on TA, causing mayhem in the fish tank if I recall, did
not Nelson get rid of her by pointing out that Jek may be upset if someone
provided him with a copy of a porno film she had appeared in???
Bob
Jimmy Rabbit
Glynn & Kathy Greenwood
Andrew Wineberg <A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM> wrote:
> It's not just you. As soon as those words left Peggy's lips I was left
> feeling certain that Hazel will turn up Kenton-fashion at Jack's do,
I had the darker thought that Jeck is not long for this world. It will
then be discovered that Jeck has left the lot to 'Hard-Core' Hazel.
--
Glynn Greenwood - Proud to be English.
Bob Spowart
>I had the darker thought that Jeck is not long for this world. It will
>then be discovered that Jeck has left the lot to 'Hard-Core' Hazel.
>
>--
Bob
Charles F Hankel
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Oh, and welcome to umra.
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-------------------------------------
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Neil Henderson
<B...@rspowart.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>>
>>I had the darker thought that Jeck is not long for this world. It will
>>then be discovered that Jeck has left the lot to 'Hard-Core' Hazel.
>>
>>--
Archers. Pray God she is nasty to Shula and Piggy.
--
Neil Henderson
Bob Spowart
Neil Henderson wrote in message ...
Oi sunshine, that's not my posting, but the response to it. GET IT RIGHT!!!
Bob ;-)
Paul Peters
<ne...@hendohome.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>It would be absolutely fantastic to have Hazel Woolley back in the
>Archers. Pray God she is nasty to Shula and Piggy.
Seconded - Hazel could be the answer to all out problems.
"Goodness, Jeck, who is that? Shirley it can't be Hazel? Hasn't she
put on weight - she looks as big as a small hippo!"
Incidentally, how young is "that young woman" Hazel?
--
Paul the Cheerful Toad
Light a fire for a man, and he'll be warm for a day.
Set him on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
Peter Hesketh
<paul....@tesco.net> writes
>
>Incidentally, how young is "that young woman" Hazel?
>
--
Peter Hesketh, Mynyddbach, Gwent, UK
"Which is worse: ignorance or apathy? I neither know nor care."
Chris McMillan
> On Mon, 12 Jul 1999 09:56:14 +0100, Neil Henderson
> <ne...@hendohome.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> >It would be absolutely fantastic to have Hazel Woolley back in the
> >Archers. Pray God she is nasty to Shula and Piggy.
>
> Seconded - Hazel could be the answer to all out problems.
>
> "Goodness, Jeck, who is that? Shirley it can't be Hazel? Hasn't she
> put on weight - she looks as big as a small hippo!"
>
>
he's her step-father. Jeck married her mum (Valerie Trentham) when Hazel was
10, and he divorced Valerie in 1974. Not surprising perhaps that she doesn't
care too much for Jeck? Her real father (Reggie Trentham) died in 1966.
Personally (having just read this up again), I'm not surprised that maybe
Hazel doesn't want to be part of the party. (although, yes, she has been
absolutely horrid every time she's appeared). The part has been played by
Hilary Amstrong, Jan Cox and Hilary Newcombe - so presumably a new alter ego
would have to be found after all this time?
Sincerely, Chris
--
Mrs. Chris McMillan. Tel. 0118 926 5450. e-mail:
ch...@mikesounds.demon.co.uk http://www.mikesounds.demon.co.uk/
Brenda Selwyn
>I had the darker thought that Jeck is not long for this world. It will
>then be discovered that Jeck has left the lot to 'Hard-Core' Hazel.
I've had this thought too. I have mixed feelings about Jack's demise.
On the whole I feel it's about time; given his age and the state of
his health, it's surprising he's still around, and IMHO his death
would move the plot along nicely. OTOH, I like the character and feel
he's well played by Arnold Peters (who must fancy retirement by now
though shirley - he can't be far off Jack's age) so I'd be sorry to
see him go. As a compromise, I'd like to see him enjoy his 10th
wedding anniversary, which will also be the 50th anniversary programme
(if only because otherwise said programme will be all full of people
saying "If only Jack were still here...") and then pass away of sudden
heart failure shortly thereafter.
By the way he talks about Hazel, I guess you're right about him
leaving her a packet in his will - not the lot though surely, more
likely 50:50 with Piggy. Why is he so attached to Hazel anyway? Her
last appearance was before my time but she sounds like a bad lot to
me. Perhaps the function of this forthcoming visit is for him to
realise she's a bad lot and disinherit her.
Brenda
--
***************************************************************
Brenda M Selwyn
Nr Bath, Somerset
bre...@matson.demon.co.uk
http://www.matson.demon.co.uk/brenda.htm
Brenda Selwyn
>born 15th Feb 1956, which makes her 43. She isn't Jeck's daughter either -
>he's her step-father. Jeck married her mum (Valerie Trentham) when Hazel was
>10, and he divorced Valerie in 1974. Not surprising perhaps that she doesn't
>care too much for Jeck? Her real father (Reggie Trentham) died in 1966.
Probably also worth mentioning that she was officially adopted by
Jack, however (unlike, IIRC, Debbie and Brian).
Neil Henderson
<Ch...@mikesounds.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <378d04ce...@news.tesco.net>, Paul Peters
><URL:mailto:paul....@tesco.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 12 Jul 1999 09:56:14 +0100, Neil Henderson
>> <ne...@hendohome.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>> >It would be absolutely fantastic to have Hazel Woolley back in the
>> >Archers. Pray God she is nasty to Shula and Piggy.
>>
>> Seconded - Hazel could be the answer to all out problems.
>>
I remember in the dim and distant past Hazel was involved in the porn
industry, and indeed may have tried to use Grey Gables (and who knows
maybe Captain) in a shoot. But I don't really remember.
This week Piggy had an entertaining row with her on the phone. I hope
Hazel turns up and gives her a coronary, burns Grey Gables to the
ground, shoots Jeck and runs off with Higgs, all to the accompaniement
of Ted Croker and his band. Bloody hell, I should be a writer on this
show.
--
Neil Henderson
Siderius Nuncius
Brenda Selwyn wrote in message <37b85a17....@news.demon.co.uk>...
>>Chris McMillan <Ch...@mikesounds.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>born 15th Feb 1956, which makes her 43. She isn't Jeck's daughter
either -
>>he's her step-father. Jeck married her mum (Valerie Trentham) when Hazel
was
>>10, and he divorced Valerie in 1974. Not surprising perhaps that she
doesn't
>>care too much for Jeck? Her real father (Reggie Trentham) died in 1966.
>
>Probably also worth mentioning that she was officially adopted by
>Jack, however (unlike, IIRC, Debbie and Brian).
>
I'm sure you're right about that, Brenda. I have no recollection at all of
Jeck having adopted either Debbie or Brian.
Kirsten Procter
> This week Piggy had an entertaining row with her on the phone. I hope
>
Did anyone else think that Piggy's comment on being asked what presnet to
buy was a bit odd? I mean, don't normal ppl ask the advice of the
recipient's spouse before buying presents?
Kirsten
--
Kirsten Procter ghoti
"that's what I think, but I don't suppose I'm right"
Charles F Hankel
(Brenda Selwyn) wrote:
> me. Perhaps the function of this forthcoming visit is for him to
> realise she's a bad lot and disinherit her.
Yes, this crossed my mind too, especially if a copy of the tape finds
its way to Jeck.
K Richard W
McMillan felt that the following contribution was appropriate
>absolutely horrid every time she's appeared). The part has been played by
>Hilary Amstrong, Jan Cox and Hilary Newcombe - so presumably a new alter ego
>would have to be found after all this time?
>
>
>
--
K Richard W
LSS super-numerary
Robert Carnegie
<richard....@studyroom.demon.co.uk> writes
Doubtful; professional females tend to keep their maiden name,
e.g. Esther Rantzen and of course Judy Bennett.
Robert Carnegie at home, rja.ca...@mailexcite.com at large
--
"Speaker for the evening, Mrs. K. Hurst, told members how to remove
earwigs from nasturtium heads before putting them in a salad."
(Women's Insitute report, 1994)
Nick Leverton
>
> I remember in the dim and distant past Hazel was involved in the porn
> industry,
Isn't it odd that, amongst all the Local History spinoffs and Cookery
spinoffs, this aspect of TA seems to have been quite ignored ?
Nick
Mike Ellwood
: likely 50:50 with Piggy. Why is he so attached to Hazel anyway? Her
I think it is because she is his last link with Hazel's mum, his
former wife Valerie. I can't remember the details, but Valerie,
who was probably a lot younger than Jack, led him a merry dance,
but this did not stop him wanting to keep her/have her back.
Not sure what happened to V - she probably died a horrible death
in order to atone for her sins - but Hazel seems to have turned
out to have a similar character. And Jack is as much of a sucker
for her as he was for her mum.
--
Mike.E...@rl.ac.uk
Paddy Smith
?
Oh, I can lend you my copy of Woolley Jumper III if you like. I know
Blockbuster don't carry it. _Nobody_ seems to be able to lay their hands
on a tape of Debbie Does Darrington, though.
Actually, if you have the new Blood-Spattered Nurses I'd probably swap.
I need it for a research project.
Paddy
obUlb: are there advertising restrictions on ulb?
"Sprinting nuns? Out of my shop, you pervert!"
Siderius Nuncius
Paddy Smith wrote in message <3793706D...@tcd.ie>...
>"Sprinting nuns? Out of my shop, you pervert!"
Oh, if I had a pound for every time that's been said to me.......
Chris McMillan
<URL:mailto:siderius...@tesco.net> wrote:
>
> Brenda Selwyn wrote in message <37b85a17....@news.demon.co.uk>...
> >>Chris McMillan <Ch...@mikesounds.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >>born 15th Feb 1956, which makes her 43. She isn't Jeck's daughter
> either -
> >>he's her step-father. Jeck married her mum (Valerie Trentham) when Hazel
> was
> >>10, and he divorced Valerie in 1974. Not surprising perhaps that she
> doesn't
> >>care too much for Jeck? Her real father (Reggie Trentham) died in 1966.
> >
> >Probably also worth mentioning that she was officially adopted by
> >Jack, however (unlike, IIRC, Debbie and Brian).
> >
Aldridge, but hasn't changed it by deed poll and Brian hasn't adopted her.
(the Book)
Andrew Wineberg
"Siderius Nuncius" <siderius...@tesco.net> wrote:
> Paddy Smith wrote in message <3793706D...@tcd.ie>...
> >"Sprinting nuns? Out of my shop, you pervert!"
> Oh, if I had a pound for every time that's been said to me.......
...you'd be one quid richer.
Are you also up to scratch on what progress has been made in modern
gunnery?
Brenda Selwyn
>I think it is because she is his last link with Hazel's mum, his
>former wife Valerie. I can't remember the details, but Valerie,
>who was probably a lot younger than Jack, led him a merry dance,
>but this did not stop him wanting to keep her/have her back.
>Not sure what happened to V - she probably died a horrible death
>in order to atone for her sins -
Unfortunately Valerie's age isn't given in The Book; however, it says
she worked in military intelligence during WWII, and Hazel was born in
1956, so ISTM she must have been born sometime in the early 1920s,
making her slightly younger than Jack. She married Reggie Trentham, a
Director of Grey Gables Country Club, who I'd guess from his
description (though again no birth date is given) was a good bit older
than her, in 1953. Though it doesn't say so exactly, The Book
intimates that Hazel was a "mistake". The family left Ambridge for
the Bahamas in 1958, but Valerie and Hazel returned after Reggie died
in 1964 (so characters reappearing after several years away is hardly
new, though there does seem to be rather a lot of it at the moment).
She married Jack Woolley, who had bought Grey Gables in 1962, in 1966.
Hazel was promptly packed off to boarding school (mostly I suspect at
her mother's behest). The marriage was not a success and Valerie, who
was already a heavy drinker, had affairs with Ralph Bellamy and Roger
T-M. She left Jack in 1972; Hazel, now 16, had been officially
adopted by Jack only a few months before and chose to stay with him.
Valerie and Jack were divorced, at her request, in 1974 and she died
in 1983. Jack blamed himself for driving her to drink, but no one
agreed with him.
>but Hazel seems to have turned
>out to have a similar character. And Jack is as much of a sucker
>for her as he was for her mum.
It appears from The Book that as a child Hazel was rather taken with
Jack. However, as an adult she has only visited him occasionally, and
then only when she needed money. On these rare visits, all she does
is complain and cause trouble. At the time of her last visit she was
living in a smart flat in London and working as a PA with a film
company in Soho (it says in The Book), and had a boyfriend and a flash
car. Before long she had lost it all and was last heard of living in
Bankok. She sent a telegram for Jack and Peggy's wedding in 1991.
Presumably she must have now returned to London, but goodness knows
what else she's doing now. I have been imagining an irresponsible
young woman, but she is now 43 and doesn't seem to have improved with
age. It also presumably means Jack has no step-grandchildren to pass
his loot onto.
VERY SLIGHT SPOILER FOLLOWS:
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.
.
.
.
.
.
.
I was wondering after the party yesterday, with everyone saying what a
jolly good chap Jack is and what a difference he's made to all their
lives, if we are being prepared for his imminent demise. The recent
mentions of Hazel are presumably to remind (or, in the case of new
listeners, tell) us that she exists and that Jack is fond of her, so
that we won't be too surprised when he leaves her half his worldly
goods in his will. I was saying the other day that I hoped he and
Peggy would be allowed to enjoy their 10th wedding anniversary in
2001, with him dying a few months later - however I feel his demise
may be more imminent. I don't know what state of health Arnold Peters
is in, but he must be about the same age as Jack and he may be hoping
to retire soon.
Linda
<bre...@matson.demon.co.uk> writes
>I was wondering after the party yesterday, with everyone saying what a
>jolly good chap Jack is and what a difference he's made to all their
>lives, if we are being prepared for his imminent demise.
Ditto...it did have something of the death knoll about it, didn't it?
What with that and the 'will Phil and Jill give up Brookfield' question,
its all change in Ambridge. Does anyone else remember how Dan and Doris
had to face the fact that it was more appropriate for P and J to be
living in Brookfield. J. seems to have forgotten all about that?
--
Linda
Siderius Nuncius
Andrew Wineberg wrote in message <4924AEA736%A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM>...
Erme....I can usually figure out most of the Delphic umraticisms which
appear, but this has me beaten, I confess.
Unless you mean nunnery, of course.
Liz Blades
>Unless you mean nunnery, of course.
in the Shakespearian sense ?
Cheers
Elizabeth
Mary Kemp
<URL:mailto:siderius...@tesco.net> wrote:
>
> Andrew Wineberg wrote in message <4924AEA736%A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM>...
> >Are you also up to scratch on what progress has been made in modern
> >gunnery?
> >
>
> Erme....I can usually figure out most of the Delphic umraticisms which
> appear, but this has me beaten, I confess.
>
> Unless you mean nunnery, of course.
"When I know more of tactics than a novice in a nunnery......"
--
Mary SODAM. PISS Artiste (LSS), Keeper of the Golden Bog Brush. BTM.
NB. Anti-spam strategy.
Please take the mickey out of me when replying
ma...@mickey.ajl-electronics.demon.co.uk
Andrew Wineberg
Mary Kemp <ma...@ajl-electronics.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <7n2hbv$gsn$2...@barcode.tesco.net>, Siderius Nuncius
> <URL:mailto:siderius...@tesco.net> wrote:
> > Erme....I can usually figure out most of the Delphic umraticisms which
> > appear, but this has me beaten, I confess.
> > Unless you mean nunnery, of course.
"In fact when I know what is meant by Mamalon and ravelin,
When I can tell at sight a mauser rifle from a javelin,
When such affairs as sorties and surprises I'm more wary at,
And when I know precisely what is meant by 'Commissariat';
When I have learned what progress has been made in modern gunnery,"
> "When I know more of tactics than a novice in a nunnery......"
"In short when I've a smattering of elemental strategy,
You'll say a better Major-General has never *sat* a gee."
[q.v. rhyming thread: all umratic threads will eventually converge]
"For my military knowledge, 'though I'm plucky and adventury
Has only been brought down to the beginning of the century;
But still in matters vegetable, animal and mineral
I am the very model of a modern Major-General."
And yes, that was from memory.
--
AJW in Stanmore, HA7, getting his coat.
Niles
|> Wineberg confused Nunciuis with...
|>Are you also up to scratch on what progress has been made in modern
|>gunnery?
|>
|
|
|Erme....I can usually figure out most of the Delphic umraticisms which
|appear, but this has me beaten, I confess.
It's in my specialist field, Sid. It's a line from the third verse of
the Major General's patter song in Act I of The Pirates of Penzance,
book W. Schwenk Gilbert, score A R Sullivan, first produced at the
Opéra Comique 6n April 3, 1880
"When I have learnt what progress has been made in modern gunnery,
When I know more of tactics than a novice in a nunnery,
In short when I've a smattering of elemental strategy
You'll say a better Major General has never sat a gee"
You can get away with atrocious rhymes in the third verse of a patter
song since it isn't generally heard and if it is it doesn't matter.
--
Niles, whose challenge next year is to make people want to watch and
sing in The Yeomen of the Guard, and who listened to it on tape
yesterday and was singularly unimpressed.
Heather Knowles
>the death knoll
Is that the same as 'the grassy knoll'? Shock news - Jeck dies in hail
of bullets. Missing gunman sought by PC Davies... ;)
--
luv Chuckler, the umra slapper
Keen member of HAHA
http://www.fanged.demon.co.uk
Chris McMillan
> On Thu, 15 Jul 1999 (probably with umpteen other missing posts) Chris
> McMillan felt that the following contribution was appropriate
> >absolutely horrid every time she's appeared). The part has been played by
> >Hilary Amstrong, Jan Cox and Hilary Newcombe - so presumably a new alter ego
> >would have to be found after all this time?
> >
> I wonder if it is safe to assume that the two Hilarys are one person?
Nope not necessarily: the alter egos are listed in the order in which
they've appeared over the years/months. Hilary Newcombe IIRC (not actually
checking at this second) has played more than one part.
Nick Atty
wrote:
>You can get away with atrocious rhymes in the third verse of a patter
>song since it isn't generally heard and if it is it doesn't matter.
Only when it is singularly rapid and unintelligible.
--
The shipping forecast is real, but The Archers live because people want them to - Tom Holt
Siderius Nuncius
Niles wrote in message <3796da8f...@news.zetnet.co.uk>...
>"Siderius Nuncius" <siderius...@tesco.net> wrote:
>
>It's in my specialist field, Sid. It's a line from the third verse of
>the Major General's patter song in Act I of The Pirates of Penzance,
>book W. Schwenk Gilbert, score A R Sullivan, first produced at the
>Opéra Comique 6n April 3, 1880
>
>"When I have learnt what progress has been made in modern gunnery,
> When I know more of tactics than a novice in a nunnery,
> In short when I've a smattering of elemental strategy
> You'll say a better Major General has never sat a gee"
Thanks, Niles (and Andrew).
I'm afraid I have a rather intense dislike of G&S, hence my ignorance. Glad
to have been put out of my misery, though.
Peter Hesketh
<Ch...@mikesounds.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <00G1LBAT...@breathemail.net>, K Richard W
><URL:mailto:richard....@studyroom.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Jul 1999 (probably with umpteen other missing posts) Chris
>> McMillan felt that the following contribution was appropriate
>> >absolutely horrid every time she's appeared). The part has been played by
>> >Hilary Amstrong, Jan Cox and Hilary Newcombe - so presumably a new alter ego
>> >would have to be found after all this time?
>> >
>
>> I wonder if it is safe to assume that the two Hilarys are one person?
>
>Nope not necessarily: the alter egos are listed in the order in which
>they've appeared over the years/months. Hilary Newcombe IIRC (not actually
>checking at this second) has played more than one part.
She was one of two actors who played Polly Perks.
The other Hilary has only played Hazel.
(Found from spreadsheet http://here.is/mynyddbach/archers/castlist.csv)
--
Peter Hesketh, Mynyddbach, Gwent, UK
"Which is worse: ignorance or apathy? I neither know nor care."
Niles
|
|"In fact when I know what is meant by Mamalon and ravelin,
, Mamelon
| When I can tell at sight a mauser rifle from a javelin,
chassepôt
| When such affairs as sorties and surprises I'm more wary at,
|
|And yes, that was from memory.
Bravo! (But not Encore!) ;) I have my libretti to hand.
--
"Un étudiant n'a pas trop de temps s'il veut connaître le
répertoir de chaque théâtre, étudier les issues du labyrinthe
parisien, [..] apprendre la langue, et s'habituer aux plaisirs
particuliers de la capitale" de BALZAC // www.niles.zetnet.co.uk
Nick Leverton
ni...@nandj.freeserve.co.uk (Nick Atty) writes:
>On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:03:58 GMT, alex....@zetnet.co.uk (Niles)
>wrote:
>
>>You can get away with atrocious rhymes in the third verse of a patter
>>song since it isn't generally heard and if it is it doesn't matter.
>
>Only when it is singularly rapid and unintelligible.
I'm sorry, I'm lying awake with a fearful headache and repose is taboo'd
by your levity. I conceive you should use calmer language - you choose
- to indulge in without improprietry. For my brain is on fire and your
words they conspire of my usual slumber to plunderme - first my
reasoning goes and uncovers egos and my sheep slip demurely from
underme. Your arguing prickles, it feels like hot needles and it's
terribly hard with the wittering for you twist and you turn and you
suddenly burn with new zeal for the latest far twittering.
Drat, lost the muse, not to mention the memory of a song I could once do
by heart ... :(
Nixck
Andrew Wineberg
alex....@zetnet.co.uk (Niles) wrote:
> Andrew Wineberg <A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM> wrote:
> |"In fact when I know what is meant by Mamalon and ravelin,
> , Mamelon
My hand slipped. Very slippery keyboard I have here, you ask Robin F.
> | When I can tell at sight a mauser rifle from a javelin,
> chassepôt
Oh, chassepot (no circumflex [q.v.] in my French-English dictionary),
Mauser (TM), chassepot, Mauser... what's the difference? What do you
have, Min?
> |And yes, that was from memory.
> Bravo!
Thank you.
> (But not Encore!) ;)
That's probably wise.
> I have my libretti to hand.
Ach, and you call yourself a fan :-)
--
Major-General AJW in Penzance.
Portrait and details at http://www.BTINTERNET.COM/~a.wineberg/
Chris J Dixon
>On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:03:58 GMT, alex....@zetnet.co.uk (Niles)
>wrote:
>
>>You can get away with atrocious rhymes in the third verse of a patter
>>song since it isn't generally heard and if it is it doesn't matter.
>
>Only when it is singularly rapid and unintelligible.
There is some other way of performing G&S?
Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham
'48/50/22 M B+ G+ A L(-) I S-- CH-(--) Ar++ T+ H0 ?Q Sh+
chris...@easynet.co.uk
Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh.
Mike McMillan
<URL:mailto:ni...@nandj.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:03:58 GMT, alex....@zetnet.co.uk (Niles)
> wrote:
>
> >You can get away with atrocious rhymes in the third verse of a patter
> >song since it isn't generally heard and if it is it doesn't matter.
>
> Only when it is singularly rapid and unintelligible.
Or . . . When it is incredibly vapid and unintentional.
Or . . . When blunt carpet tacks are really not a lot of use . . .
In fitting fur coats on the squaw on the Hypotanuse.
Toodle Pip,
Mike
--
Mike McMillan
Did you expect to find an amusing sig. line here?.. You Did?.. What a Shame!
Tel: 0118 9265450, Fax: 0118 9668167. http://www.mikesounds.demon.co.uk/
Niles
|
|
|I'm afraid I have a rather intense dislike of G&S, hence my ignorance. Glad
|to have been put out of my misery, though.
|
My grandfather's like that. I'm not sure what's to dislike. However,
we're doing Yeomen next, and as far as I can tell, it's as dullas
ditchwater. My allegiances may be about to be reviewed. I haven't done
either serious singing, or serious acting for a very long time. Might
be time to jack in this light stuff, and try something a little
harder.
--
| Niles, Leominster
"L'amour n'est peut-être que | ICQ UIN 12724766
la reconnaissance du plaisir |
Honoré de Balzac, _Le Père Goriot_ | www.niles.zetnet.co.uk
Niles
|On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:03:58 GMT, alex....@zetnet.co.uk (Niles)
|wrote:
|
|>You can get away with atrocious rhymes in the third verse of a patter
|>song since it isn't generally heard and if it is it doesn't matter.
|
|Only when it is singularly rapid and unintelligible.
Tsk. Particularly. (From memory ;)
--
| Niles, Leominster
"Quantum Mechanics - | ICQ UIN 12724766
the dreams stuff is made from" |
| www.niles.zetnet.co.uk
Niles
|
|Drat, lost the muse, not to mention the memory of a song I could once do
|by heart ... :(
Should I oblige? I know Iolanthe a whole lot better than I know
Pirates. (Newer users may be interested in the photograph of me
playing the Fairy Queen, available to all, on the website.)
Chris J Dixon
>lev...@warren.demon.co.uk (Nick Leverton) wrote:
>
>|
>|Drat, lost the muse, not to mention the memory of a song I could once do
>|by heart ... :(
>
>Should I oblige? I know Iolanthe a whole lot better than I know
>Pirates. (Newer users may be interested in the photograph of me
>playing the Fairy Queen, available to all, on the website.)
Tripping hither, tripping thither, nobody knows why or wither . .
. Fairy revels aren't what they used to be.
Nick Leverton
alex....@zetnet.co.uk (Niles) writes:
>
> My allegiances may be about to be reviewed. I haven't done
>either serious singing, or serious acting for a very long time. Might
>be time to jack in this light stuff, and try something a little
>harder.
Go for it :-)
Nick, making that same musical journey in a different tradition.
Nick Leverton
>
> . Fairy revels aren't what they used to be.
Weren't they rebranded as fairy treats ?
N.
Kate Lambert
<chris...@easynet.co.uk> writes
>Nick Atty wrote:
>
>>
>>Only when it is singularly rapid and unintelligible.
>
>
attended to teach us how to ar-tic-u-late pre-cise-ly and au-dib-ly.
But it would sound daft to sing it that way I'd have thought.
--
Kate Lambert
Kate Brown
Niles <alex....@zetnet.co.uk> wrote
>
>we're doing Yeomen next, and as far as I can tell, it's as dullas
>either serious singing, or serious acting for a very long time. Might
>be time to jack in this light stuff, and try something a little
>harder.
>
I made my Oxford debut as Elsie (a shockingly long time ago), and adored
every minute of it. It was the biggest thing I'd ever sung, and the
first, solo, with orchestra. But it would have been very dull without
the chap who played Point - he was thin and had a sad, spaniel-eyed
face, was also very quick and clever, and absolutely heart-breaking at
the end. Casting is all-important.... who are you going to be, or are
you directing?
--
Kate B
London
Charles F Hankel
<siderius...@tesco.net> wrote:
>
> Andrew Wineberg wrote in message <4924AEA736%A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM>...
> >In message <7n14pq$d69$1...@epos.tesco.net>
> > "Siderius Nuncius" <siderius...@tesco.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Paddy Smith wrote in message <3793706D...@tcd.ie>...
> >
> >> >"Sprinting nuns? Out of my shop, you pervert!"
> >
> >> Oh, if I had a pound for every time that's been said to me.......
> >
> >...you'd be one quid richer.
> >
> >Are you also up to scratch on what progress has been made in modern
> >gunnery?
> >
>
>
> Erme....I can usually figure out most of the Delphic umraticisms which
> appear, but this has me beaten, I confess.
>
> Unless you mean nunnery, of course.
Maybe he means Gunnersbury? Either that or large bore hippo
propulsion systems.
--
Charles F Hankel
-------------------------------------
Hapless FAQer on the Wirral peninsula
http://www.mersinet.co.uk/~hankel/uf/umrafaq.html
Nick Atty
<A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM> wrote:
>Oh, chassepot (no circumflex [q.v.] in my French-English dictionary),
>Mauser (TM), chassepot, Mauser... what's the difference? What do you
>have, Min?
My brain has "Mauser". Somewhere I have a Wordsworth classic
libretti[*] but can't find it at the mo.
[*] - one book, all the scripts, is that "a libretti"?
Nick Meredith
wrote:
>You can get away with atrocious rhymes in the third verse of a patter
>song since it isn't generally heard and if it is it doesn't matter.
Not it really doesn't matter.
--
Nick Meredith, Coventry, UK
Robin Fairbairns
>[*] - one book, all the scripts, is that "a libretti"?
the singlular is libretto. the book is, i suppose, a book of
libretti.
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge
George Middleton
>On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:03:58 GMT, alex....@zetnet.co.uk (Niles)
>wrote:
>
>
>>You can get away with atrocious rhymes in the third verse of a patter
>>song since it isn't generally heard and if it is it doesn't matter.
>
>Not it really doesn't matter.
I assume you are talking about the lines used by somebody as a sig or
something,... "This particularly vapid unintelligible patter
Isn't generally read and if it is it doesn't matter."
I was so impressed by its foot that I have kept it for frequent
referral.
--
George
Robin Fairbairns
>Charles F Hankel wrote:
>> Under the influence of direct sunshine, "Siderius Nuncius"
>> <siderius...@tesco.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > Unless you mean nunnery, of course.
>>
>> Maybe he means Gunnersbury?
>
>
>No, sorry, it doesn't scan. Old Will knew what he was about. It's no
>accident that he didn't write "Change at Highbury for the North London
>Line" in any of his plays.
but it _is_ a mere accident of history that he didn't write
passengers
are requested to cross the line
by the footbridge
all season tickets to be shown
by order.
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge
Nick Leverton
> Under the influence of direct sunshine, "Siderius Nuncius"
> <siderius...@tesco.net> wrote:
> >
> > Unless you mean nunnery, of course.
>
> Maybe he means Gunnersbury?
"To Gunn-ersbury, go!"
No, sorry, it doesn't scan. Old Will knew what he was about. It's no
accident that he didn't write "Change at Highbury for the North London
Line" in any of his plays.
Nick
Niles
|
|
|I made my Oxford debut as Elsie (a shockingly long time ago), and adored
|every minute of it. It was the biggest thing I'd ever sung, and the
|first, solo, with orchestra. But it would have been very dull without
|the chap who played Point - he was thin and had a sad, spaniel-eyed
|face, was also very quick and clever, and absolutely heart-breaking at
|the end. Casting is all-important.... who are you going to be, or are
|you directing?
I'm not directing, and I have news that the director is
ultra-traditional. Ho, hum. I still have to design the publicity
campaign, and I'm at a dead loss. Still, I suppose that if the show is
dead traditional, all I have to do is photocopy Tower of London promo
material. ;)
I wouldn't mind playing Meryll for the nice Quartet (Strange
Adventure, Maiden Wedded) - I've not sung any real harmony for a long
time, and certainly no quartets. However, I've yet to check the
libretto to establish how big the part is. I can't afford to do
anything except cameos, because this will be my final year, and I have
other fish to fry.
Peter Hesketh
<alex....@zetnet.co.uk> writes
>I can't afford to do
>anything except cameos, because this will be my final year, and I have
>other fish to fry.
Nothing if not versatile, is our Niles. Works in a supermarket and a
chip shop, and makes miniature bas-reliefs. How do you find time to
sing, study and umrise too?
--
Regards, Peter Hesketh Monmouthshire UK
"Traa dy liooar"
(Traditional Manx saying)
martin clark
something about...
>Charles F Hankel wrote:
>
>No, sorry, it doesn't scan. Old Will knew what he was about. It's no
>accident that he didn't write "Change at Highbury for the North London
>Line" in any of his plays.
>
... or was it "All's Well that Clerkenwell?"
And there's also the line about "the whining schoolboy, with his
satchel, and shining Mornington Crescent face..."
--
Martin up in t' Pennines.
The lights are on but there's no-one at home.
To reply: leave out overnight.to.defrost.
Robert Carnegie
Middleton <Mi...@leton.demon.co.uk> writes
>Nick Meredith wrote:
>>On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:03:58 GMT, alex....@zetnet.co.uk (Niles)
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>You can get away with atrocious rhymes in the third verse of a patter
>>>song since it isn't generally heard and if it is it doesn't matter.
>>
>>Not it really doesn't matter.
>
>I assume you are talking about the lines used by somebody as a sig or
>something,... "This particularly vapid unintelligible patter
> Isn't generally read and if it is it doesn't matter."
Isn't that genuine W. S. Gilbert op.?
Robert Carnegie at home, rja.ca...@mailexcite.com at large
--
"Speaker for the evening, Mrs. K. Hurst, told members how to remove
earwigs from nasturtium heads before putting them in a salad."
(Women's Insitute report, 1994)
Siderius Nuncius
martin clark wrote in message ...
>I may be imagining things, but I thought Nick Leverton muttered
>something about...
>>Charles F Hankel wrote:
>>
>>No, sorry, it doesn't scan. Old Will knew what he was about. It's no
>>accident that he didn't write "Change at Highbury for the North London
>>Line" in any of his plays.
>>
>Er... wasn't that in "Much Ado About Notting hill"
>... or was it "All's Well that Clerkenwell?"
>
>And there's also the line about "the whining schoolboy, with his
>satchel, and shining Mornington Crescent face..."
>--
Well, exactly. The man obviously commuted to North London:
"To Harrow and to Harrow and to Harrow
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day..."
There's the somewhat cryptic: "Neither a Borough nor a Leominster be."
And..
"Is this Dagenham which I see before me?"
"Within this Holloway holds death his court."
"Now is the Willesden of our discontent
Made glorious Sunbury by this son of York..."
Forever making snide London references in his plays, the man was. Obviously
didn't like it.
And it's my belief, by the way, that Jesus lived in Surrey and hated it.
Hence "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for
Richmond to enter the kingdom of Heaven." I am hoping to get onto Start the
Week to discuss this contovermmmmmmmmmgfffff
<voices off: "Nurse! He's out of bed again! Give me a hand here, will you?">
Chris McMillan
<URL:mailto:r...@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> Nick Leverton <lev...@warren.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >Charles F Hankel wrote:
> >> Under the influence of direct sunshine, "Siderius Nuncius"
> >> <siderius...@tesco.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Unless you mean nunnery, of course.
> but it _is_ a mere accident of history that he didn't write
>
> passengers
> are requested to cross the line
> by the footbridge
> all season tickets to be shown
> by order.
>
No doubt whatever hapless employee who did has long since departed to the
big signal box in the sky?
Sincerely, Chris
--
Mrs. Chris McMillan. Tel. 0118 926 5450. e-mail:
ch...@mikesounds.demon.co.uk http://www.mikesounds.demon.co.uk/
Chris McMillan
<URL:mailto:r...@betsy.cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> Nick Atty <ni...@nandj.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> >[*] - one book, all the scripts, is that "a libretti"?
>
> the singlular is libretto. the book is, i suppose, a book of
> libretti.
>
libretto n. pl. -tos, -ti. words of an opera.
as does Chambers.
Niles
|In article <379c40a5...@news.zetnet.co.uk>, Niles
|<alex....@zetnet.co.uk> writes
|
|>I can't afford to do
|>anything except cameos, because this will be my final year, and I have
|>other fish to fry.
|
|Nothing if not versatile, is our Niles. Works in a supermarket and a
|chip shop, and makes miniature bas-reliefs. How do you find time to
|sing, study and umrise too?
;)
I get time off shortly to go and sing in various places - Norwich
cathedral for a week, 6th to 16th August, and then my annual
sabbatical with the Three Choirs, this year in Worcester.
To umrise? is that similar to, um, get up?
--
| Niles, Leominster
" Atheism is... | ICQ UIN 12724766
a non-prophet organisation" |
| www.niles.zetnet.co.uk
Niles
|In article <WkLBtKAD...@leton.demon.co.uk>, George
|Middleton <Mi...@leton.demon.co.uk> writes
|>Nick Meredith wrote:
|>>On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:03:58 GMT, alex....@zetnet.co.uk (Niles)
|>>wrote:
|>>
|>>
|>>>You can get away with atrocious rhymes in the third verse of a patter
|>>>song since it isn't generally heard and if it is it doesn't matter.
|>>
|>>Not it really doesn't matter.
|>
|>I assume you are talking about the lines used by somebody as a sig or
|>something,... "This particularly vapid unintelligible patter
|> Isn't generally read and if it is it doesn't matter."
|
|Isn't that genuine W. S. Gilbert op.?
Yes, of course, it's in the last verse of the Patter Song in
Ruddigore, which really is a bugger to sing. Well, in our amateur set
up, it's a bugger to keep soli and orchestra in time with each other.
Canny soli sing it at their own speed and rely on the leader to get
the woodwind in time...
There do exist MP3s of all the opera, I'm just not sure where...
Iain Archer
>In article <7nhnus$i2f$1...@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>, Robin Fairbairns
><URL:mailto:r...@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>> but it _is_ a mere accident of history that he didn't write
>>
>> passengers
>> are requested to cross the line
>> by the footbridge
>> all season tickets to be shown
>> by order.
>>
>No doubt whatever hapless employee who did has long since departed to the
>big signal box in the sky?
On the stations I used it was actually 'shewn' rather than
'shown'. But then they had real tickets in those days.
--
Iain Archer i...@montaigne.demon appended_to .co.uk
Robin Fairbairns
you could well be right. (there's probably an accepted acronym for
that ... except it's not a terribly usenet activity to be accepting
that someone else has right something oneself had wrong.)
to be perfectly honest, i don't actually have a visual memory of it.
we used to sing it, as a round, to a tune allegedly written for the
purpose by one b britten, while on holiday trips.
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge
Iain Archer
>Iain Archer <i...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>On the stations I used it was actually 'shewn' rather than
>>'shown'. But then they had real tickets in those days.
>
>you could well be right. (there's probably an accepted acronym for
>that ... except it's not a terribly usenet activity to be accepting
>that someone else has right something oneself had wrong.)
All the more so when, with phrases like that or "I may well be wrong"
there's scope for several different and antithetical meanings,
English 'politespeak' being what it is. ;) I wasn't concerned about
spelling per se anyway, just that it provided some evidence of
antiquity.
>to be perfectly honest, i don't actually have a visual memory of it.
>
>we used to sing it, as a round, to a tune allegedly written for the
>purpose by one b britten, while on holiday trips.
Wittgenstein's "Davon man nicht reden kann, darueber sollst man
schweigen" (or words to that effect) makes a very pleasing round imo.
Bit ironic really.
Is there an Umra glee club?
Simon Townley
wrote:
> Is there an Umra glee club?
Yes, combined with the ballroom dancing section ... mostly they practise
in cemeteries ;-)
--
Simon Townley
Robin Fairbairns
>Wittgenstein's "Davon man nicht reden kann, darueber sollst man
>schweigen" (or words to that effect) makes a very pleasing round imo.
but he'd never qualify as a member of the lss.
>Bit ironic really.
very sartre.
>Is there an Umra glee club?
not that i know of, though l*nda was trying to form an lss tone deaf
choir at one stage.
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge
Linda
<r...@cl.cam.ac.uk> writes
>>Is there an Umra glee club?
>
>not that i know of, though l*nda was trying to form an lss tone deaf
>choir at one stage.
IIRC I formed the choir but unaccountably we have not been given the
opportunity to perform :-( I'd like to make Anne Widdicombe our patron
but she might object. But should people of our nature demur?
--
Linda
Nick Meredith
wrote:
>Robert Carnegie <rja.ca...@mailexcite.com> wrote:
>
>|In article <WkLBtKAD...@leton.demon.co.uk>, George
>|Middleton <Mi...@leton.demon.co.uk> writes
>|>Nick Meredith wrote:
>|>>On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:03:58 GMT, alex....@zetnet.co.uk (Niles)
>|>>wrote:
>|>>
>|>>
>|>>>You can get away with atrocious rhymes in the third verse of a patter
>|>>>song since it isn't generally heard and if it is it doesn't matter.
>|>>
>|>>Not it really doesn't matter.
>|>
>|>I assume you are talking about the lines used by somebody as a sig or
>|>something,... "This particularly vapid unintelligible patter
>|> Isn't generally read and if it is it doesn't matter."
>|
>|Isn't that genuine W. S. Gilbert op.?
>
>Yes, of course, it's in the last verse of the Patter Song in
>Ruddigore, which really is a bugger to sing. Well, in our amateur set
>up, it's a bugger to keep soli and orchestra in time with each other.
>Canny soli sing it at their own speed and rely on the leader to get
>the woodwind in time...
My eyes are fully open to my very silly typo
I shall write at once to Niles I think and say that "Not" should be
"So"
I shall tell him I've discovered in libretto correct quoting,
And I know this is'nt Gilbert on whose words we are doting.
Now I do not want to be mocked by the pen or by the keyboard,
From those who note my rhymes don't work and when I use a wrong word,
And a word or two of compliment my vanity would flatter,
But I'm back at work tomorrow, so it really doesn't matter!
So it really doesn't matter.
If you are into such things, may I recommend
http://diamond.idbsu.edu/gas/GaS.html
Liz Blades
>In article <PhCOxFAb...@montaigne.demon.co.uk>, i...@nospam.demon.co.uk
>wrote:
>> Is there an Umra glee club?
>Yes, combined with the ballroom dancing section ... mostly they practise
>in cemeteries ;-)
Splutter,dammit Townley you've done it again,how do I get beer
out of my keyboard?
Elizabeth
Chris McMillan
<URL:mailto:alex....@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
> Peter Hesketh <p...@phesk.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I get time off shortly to go and sing in various places - Norwich
> cathedral for a week, 6th to 16th August, and then my annual
> sabbatical with the Three Choirs, this year in Worcester.
>
Wot dates for Worcester, Niles?
Nick Leverton
> In article <7nn12n$ghp$1...@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>, Robin Fairbairns
> <r...@cl.cam.ac.uk> writes
> >
> >choir at one stage.
>
> IIRC I formed the choir but unaccountably we have not been given the
> opportunity to perform :-( I'd like to make Anne Widdicombe our patron
> but she might object. But should people of our nature demur?
I think it would be an outstanding occasion were you to be given an
opportinuty to perform alongside the Portsmouth Sinfonietta, an
orchestra whose sterling (or nowadays we might say 'Euro') abilities
will live for ever in the memories of those who heard their debut
recording.
Nick
Peter Hesketh
<nic...@zetnet.co.uk> writes
>So it really doesn't matter.
If I don't get any fatter (20p)
Liz Blades
.
>My eyes are fully open to my very silly typo
>I shall write at once to Niles I think and say that "Not" should be
>"So"
>I shall tell him I've discovered in libretto correct quoting,
>And I know this is'nt Gilbert on whose words we are doting.
>Now I do not want to be mocked by the pen or by the keyboard,
>From those who note my rhymes don't work and when I use a wrong word,
>And a word or two of compliment my vanity would flatter,
>But I'm back at work tomorrow, so it really doesn't matter!
>So it really doesn't matter.
And it's irrit_ a_ting me_to_ de_ath
as to what th_is does come from
Ah now I have re_alised
I've po_ished all the do_ors and I'm
A proper Major general
(a proper Major General)
Who no_body adores.
Elizabeth
Iain Archer
>I think it would be an outstanding occasion were you to be given an
>opportinuty to perform alongside the Portsmouth Sinfonietta, an
>orchestra whose sterling (or nowadays we might say 'Euro') abilities
>will live for ever in the memories of those who heard their debut
>recording.
They actually _were_ all professionals, weren't they - just with each
not playing his/her standard instrument. I thought their Also
Sprach Zarathustra opening really had something of the spirit of the
piece, inexactitudes notwithstanding, but then I'm not a musician.
Niles
|In article <37ab0e90...@news.zetnet.co.uk>, Niles
|<URL:mailto:alex....@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
|> Peter Hesketh <p...@phesk.demon.co.uk> wrote:
|>
|
|> I get time off shortly to go and sing in various places - Norwich
|> cathedral for a week, 6th to 16th August, and then my annual
|> sabbatical with the Three Choirs, this year in Worcester.
|>
|Wot dates for Worcester, Niles?
The Festival proper runs from the 21st to the 27th, but I shall be in
situ from the 18th, lodged in the house that features on the back of
the new £20 note. (as you can see, that gives me two days inbetween
time to wave my underwear at the washing machine, and catch up with
ten days mail and news)
More information about the Three Choirs on www.3choirs.org
Robert Carnegie
Archer <i...@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes
Yes, some music is so evocative that no matter how it's being
murdered, it still recalls the same emotions - even as a MIDI file
on a cheap sound card, Mantovani's "Wall of Strings", on a
musical digital watch (ahem) or a performance by the Chipmunks
or Pinky and Perky.
It may also be that even the most whimsical musicians can't bring
themselves to do the worst that they could to an dear and innocent
old tune.
Chris McMillan
<URL:mailto:alex....@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
> Chris McMillan <Ch...@mikesounds.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> |In article <37ab0e90...@news.zetnet.co.uk>, Niles
> The Festival proper runs from the 21st to the 27th, but I shall be in
> situ from the 18th, lodged in the house that features on the back of
> the new £20 note.
Jammy! And nugger. We don't go until 26th either. (Thanks to Wonder Girl
having to wait for her GCSE exam result which arrives on 26th) so that
idea's out!
Kate Brown
1999, Chris McMillan <Ch...@mikesounds.demon.co.uk> wrote
>In article <37b6d7ca...@news.zetnet.co.uk>, Niles
><URL:mailto:alex....@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>> Chris McMillan <Ch...@mikesounds.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> |In article <37ab0e90...@news.zetnet.co.uk>, Niles
>
>> The Festival proper runs from the 21st to the 27th, but I shall be in
>> situ from the 18th, lodged in the house that features on the back of
>> the new £20 note.
>
>Jammy! And nugger. We don't go until 26th either. (Thanks to Wonder Girl
>having to wait for her GCSE exam result which arrives on 26th) so that
>idea's out!
Is anybody going to Edinburgh?
--
Kate B
London
Penny Mayes
>
>Is anybody going to Edinburgh?
Daughter #1 apparently, with free accommodation, I am madly jealous
but must content myself with a conducted tour of the finer parts of
Yorkshire :)
Penny
How dogs and men are the same #6
Both fart shamelessly.
umra Nicknames & Abbreviations http://www.bigwig.net/umra/nicks.html
bad...@void.demon.co.uk
<ma...@pTHEUSUALmail.net> enlightened us enchantingly thus:
No it was daugher # 2. Oh YOURS is going too? Mine is no longer
sure.
Vicky
--
A file that big?
It might be very useful.
But now it is gone.
-- David J. Liszewski
Paul Peters
<elv...@cockaigne.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>Is anybody going to Edinburgh?
>
holiday opportunity opened up for what turns out to be the last week
of the Festival. I was rather disappointed to find that the Fringe
finishes earlier.
I was going to raise it a bit nearer to the time, but are there any
Landmarking umrats out there who can identify why I could get excited
about the prospect of a week between Edinburgh and Stirling just below
the Fourth of Fifth?
--
Paul the Cheerful Toad
Light a fire for a man, and he'll be warm for a day.
Set him on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
Charles F Hankel
<ma...@pTHEUSUALmail.net> wrote:
> Kate Brown wrote in message ...
> >
> >Is anybody going to Edinburgh?
>
> Daughter #1 apparently, with free accommodation, I am madly jealous
> but must content myself with a conducted tour of the finer parts of
> Yorkshire :)
That should fill the gap between breakfast and lunch.
--
Charles F Hankel
-------------------------------------
Hapless FAQer on the Wirral peninsula
http://www.mersinet.co.uk/~hankel/uf/umrafaq.html
Penny Mayes
<37d73496...@news.mersinet.co.uk>...
>Under the influence of direct sunshine, "Penny Mayes"
><ma...@pTHEUSUALmail.net> wrote:
>
>> Kate Brown wrote in message ...
>> >
>> >Is anybody going to Edinburgh?
>>
>> Daughter #1 apparently, with free accommodation, I am madly jealous
>> but must content myself with a conducted tour of the finer parts of
>> Yorkshire :)
>
>That should fill the gap between breakfast and lunch.
Hmm, does the sun _ever_ shine in Yorkshire?
I could have done without the joys of traversing the M1/M62
six-lanes-make-sure-you're-in-the-right-one twice in blinding
downpours :(
In fact I found several interesting places to visit, not all of them
in Yorks and daughter #1 never made it to Edinburgh, she found some
gainful employment instead (a bit of a shock to the system).
Penny
How dogs and men are the same #8
Both are suspicious of the postman.
Charles F Hankel
<ma...@pTHEUSUALmail.net> wrote:
> Charles F Hankel wrote in message
> <37d73496...@news.mersinet.co.uk>...
> >Under the influence of direct sunshine, "Penny Mayes"
> ><ma...@pTHEUSUALmail.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Kate Brown wrote in message ...
> >> >
> >> >Is anybody going to Edinburgh?
> >>
> >> Daughter #1 apparently, with free accommodation, I am madly jealous
> >> but must content myself with a conducted tour of the finer parts of
> >> Yorkshire :)
> >
> >That should fill the gap between breakfast and lunch.
>
> Hmm, does the sun _ever_ shine in Yorkshire?
Not when people are there.
> In fact I found several interesting places to visit, not all of them
> in Yorks and daughter #1 never made it to Edinburgh, she found some
> gainful employment instead (a bit of a shock to the system).
Oo-er, gainful employment? I can see that this would be a shock to
the system.
Jane Vernon
pool when J. P. Gilliver (John) thankfully interrupted me to say:
>In article <ant22195...@mikesounds.demon.co.uk>, Mike McMillan
><Mi...@mikesounds.demon.co.uk> writes
>[]
>>Or . . . When blunt carpet tacks are really not a lot of use . . .
>> In fitting fur coats on the squaw on the Hypotanuse.
>
>No, that's the squaw of the hippopotamus-hide*, who was the sum of the
>squaws on the other two hides put together. (Can't remember origin -
>probably Frank Muir.)
I don't know where it came from, but here is the full version:
The bead bangled big chief wingle wangle had three lovely squaws who
slept in his wigwam, one on a hide of moose, one one a hide of reindeer
and the third, his favourite, on a hide of hippopotamus. Eventually his
wives presented him with lovely babies - a son from the squaw who slept
on the reindeer hide, a son from the one who slept on the moose hide but
twin sons from the squaw who slept on the hippopotamus hide. This all
goes to show that the squaw on the hippopotamus hide of the bead bangled
wingle wangle was equal to the sons of the squaws on the other two
hides.
Jane
The potter with the purple socks (courtesy Michelle's Paul)
Andrew Wineberg
> Not sure if this is relevant to what you were saying, but I believe in
> this country you can change your name as often and to whatever you like,
> provided it isn't done with fraudulent intent - you don't need a deed
> poll (whatever that is, I've never seen one) - right Chloe?
Quite right (and don't call me Chloe). All one legally needs to do to
change one's name is to adopt it, i.e. to start using it and encourage
others to call one by one's new choice of name. The only problem is that
most organisations, such as banks and authorities, will not change one's
records wityhout seeing some kind of Change of Name deed or other
certification. I wonder if they would accept a marriage certificate
which surely would not automatically impose a change of name on the
bride.
--
AJW in Stanmore, HA7, Great Britain.
Details and Barwick Green at http://www.BTINTERNET.COM/~a.wineberg/
Rosie Mitchell
>Not sure if this is relevant to what you were saying, but I believe in
>this country you can change your name as often and to whatever you like,
>provided it isn't done with fraudulent intent - you don't need a deed
>poll (whatever that is, I've never seen one) - right Chloe?
Not Chloe here, but one who has some experience in these matters.
That's perfectly true for everyday purposes, but you won't get a
passport or a driving licence or a lot of other official documents in
the preferred name unless you change your name officially through one of
the formal methods - Deed Poll, Statutory Declaration, or Act of
Parliament. It could be very awkward for me, for example, if my
passport or driving licence bore the name that appears on my birth
certificate.
The notion of changing your name by Deed Poll (which involves depositing
the change of name before a court) is so fixed it's become a cliché - in
newspapers nobody ever just changes their name, they invariably change
their name *by deed poll*. It's not even the most usual way of doing it
formally, most of us do it by Statutory Declaration sworn before a
Commissioner for Oaths (I drafted my own, the form of words is easy to
get hold of, and had a tame solicitor endorse it during her lunch hour)
Rosie
--
Rosalind Mitchell - ICQ 13609015 - http://www.aida.demon.co.uk/rosie
"If there is one wish I would pray the Spirit to put into our Christmas
stockings, it is warmth, openness, passion, a bit of emotion that doesn't mind
making a fool of itself occasionally" [Gerald Priestland]
Al Menzies
Mitchell dashed across the keyboard to create this message:
>J. P. Gilliver (John) <G6...@soft255.demon.co.uk> writes
>>Not sure if this is relevant to what you were saying, but I believe in
>>this country you can change your name as often and to whatever you like,
>>provided it isn't done with fraudulent intent - you don't need a deed
>>poll (whatever that is, I've never seen one) - right Chloe?
>
>Not Chloe here, but one who has some experience in these matters.
>
>That's perfectly true for everyday purposes, but you won't get a
>passport or a driving licence or a lot of other official documents in
>the preferred name unless you change your name officially through one of
>the formal methods - Deed Poll, Statutory Declaration, or Act of
>Parliament. It could be very awkward for me, for example, if my
>passport or driving licence bore the name that appears on my birth
>certificate.
My driving licence has my name as Al - this is not what appears on my
birth certificate, and I have made no legal (or illegal for that
matter) declaration, nor have I changed my name by deed poll. I have
just used the name I have been know by for the last 30 years or so.
al
Rosie Mitchell
>My driving licence has my name as Al - this is not what appears on my
>birth certificate, and I have made no legal (or illegal for that
>matter) declaration, nor have I changed my name by deed poll. I have
>just used the name I have been know by for the last 30 years or so.
I suspect problems might ensue if, when pulled over for some traffic
misdemeanour, I produced a licence with the name David on it. Which my
original licence had. I think if you want to change David to Rosalind
they are entitled to some documentary evidence that you're not trying to
pull a fast one.
Penny Mayes
some amusing stuff
>The potter with the purple socks (courtesy Michelle's Paul)
Michelle's Paul knits socks ?!
Penny
HOW MEN ARE BETTER THAN DOGS #4
Men can be little bit more subtle.
Jane Vernon
>Jane Vernon wrote in message ...
>
>some amusing stuff
>
>>The potter with the purple socks (courtesy Michelle's Paul)
>
>Michelle's Paul knits socks ?!
No, no, it was just that he s-
Oh, I see. Sorry. It was a joke. Will I never get the hang of those?
:(
Jane
The potter with the purple socks
Siderius Nuncius
Rosie Mitchell wrote in message ...
>
>I suspect problems might ensue if, when pulled over for some traffic
>misdemeanour, I produced a licence with the name David on it. Which my
>original licence had. I think if you want to change David to Rosalind
>they are entitled to some documentary evidence that you're not trying to
>pull a fast one.
Particularly if they've stopped you for speeding.
Ay thengyeou.
Regards
Sid
(Shepherds Bush, West London)
Paul Peters
wrote:
>I was attempting to rescue a baby squirrel from the Grey Gables swimming
>pool when Penny Mayes thankfully interrupted me to say:
>>Jane Vernon wrote in message ...
>>
>>some amusing stuff
>>
>>>The potter with the purple socks (courtesy Michelle's Paul)
>>
>>Michelle's Paul knits socks ?!
>
>No, no, it was just that he s-
>
Let me state, here and now, for good and all, that I am not now, have
never been, and have no intention of being, Courtesy Michelle.
--
Paul
Robert Carnegie
Vernon <ja...@otbo.demon.co.uk> writes
>I was attempting to rescue a baby squirrel from the Grey Gables
>swimming
>>In article <ant22195...@mikesounds.demon.co.uk>, Mike
>McMillan
>><Mi...@mikesounds.demon.co.uk> writes
>>[]
>>>Or . . . When blunt carpet tacks are really not a lot of use . . .
>>> In fitting fur coats on the squaw on the Hypotanuse.
>>
>>No, that's the squaw of the hippopotamus-hide*, who was the sum of
>the
>>squaws on the other two hides put together. (Can't remember origin -
>>probably Frank Muir.)
>
>I don't know where it came from, but here is the full version:
>
>The bead bangled big chief wingle wangle had three lovely squaws who
>slept in his wigwam, one on a hide of moose, one one a hide of reindeer
>and the third, his favourite, on a hide of hippopotamus. Eventually his
>wives presented him with lovely babies - a son from the squaw who slept
>on the reindeer hide, a son from the one who slept on the moose hide
>but
>twin sons from the squaw who slept on the hippopotamus hide. This all
>goes to show that the squaw on the hippopotamus hide of the bead
>bangled
>wingle wangle was equal to the sons of the squaws on the other two
>hides.
I think I've seen it in Martin Gardner. Would you like me to look?
Robert Carnegie at home, rja.ca...@mailexcite.com at large
--
"A 999 call to police should have caught burglars red-handed as they
raided a village shop. But the gang fled with cigarettes and postage
stamps worth UKP1,500, after police phoned back to check the burglars
were still there." (1995)