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Btms

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Jan 20, 2017, 2:36:16ā€ÆPM1/20/17
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The spoiler alerts are just too provoking. I will listen at bedtime
tonighT, Friday. i hope it isn't the stuff nightmares are made of?


Sally Thompson

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Jan 20, 2017, 2:54:42ā€ÆPM1/20/17
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Btms <po...@thetames.me.uk> wrote:
> The spoiler alerts are just too provoking. I will listen at bedtime
> tonighT, Friday. i hope it isn't the stuff nightmares are made of?
>
>
>

Tonight was A Very Good Episode (TM).

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Sally in Shropshire, UK

William McNicol

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Jan 20, 2017, 3:01:50ā€ÆPM1/20/17
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On Friday, 20 January 2017 19:36:16 UTC, Btms wrote:
> The spoiler alerts are just too provoking. I will listen at bedtime
> tonighT, Friday. i hope it isn't the stuff nightmares are made of?

Nightmares?

Not at all, this is the stuff of which dreams are made.

Btms

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Jan 20, 2017, 3:11:13ā€ÆPM1/20/17
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Feedlines are me. wow, yes, yes! Now for Mastermind General & then Only
Connect. Chuffed and happy.

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BTMS - Usurped as Editor in waiting

Fenny

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Jan 20, 2017, 4:19:18ā€ÆPM1/20/17
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I shall dream through it on Sunday morning in my hotel room!

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Fenny

Steve Hague

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Jan 21, 2017, 4:39:36ā€ÆAM1/21/17
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Baddies always got their comeupance in pre- SOC days, even if it took a
while. Perhaps the good old days have returned.
Steve

Btms

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Jan 21, 2017, 5:08:12ā€ÆAM1/21/17
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My hunch is not yet. I think Rob is too slippery and will come up with a
survival plan because he is obsessed with gaining control of Jack.

LFS

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Jan 21, 2017, 11:47:13ā€ÆAM1/21/17
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I agree. There is still much to play out here before we see the back of him.

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Laura (emulate St George for email)

Mike McMillan

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Jan 21, 2017, 11:57:51ā€ÆAM1/21/17
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LFS <la...@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote:

> I agree. There is still much to play out here before we see the back of him.
>

However, I think the gloatability factor has increased considerably this
week. šŸ˜‰

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Toodle Pip

J. P. Gilliver (John)

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Jan 21, 2017, 12:06:18ā€ÆPM1/21/17
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In message <eehhkf...@mid.individual.net>, LFS
And they're storing up trouble for the future - real long-term future,
in old TA fashion: when he's a teenager, or even an adult, Henry will
(or at least might) really resent how they've kept him from his "Daddy",
whom he loves (and they haven't tried to change that; probably they
shouldn't, but there's no easy answer to that sort of thing IRL).
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

ā€¦ too popular actually to be any good. - Alison Graham in Radio Times 2-8
February 2013

Btms

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Jan 21, 2017, 12:08:41ā€ÆPM1/21/17
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And that schaden....thingy. Not us of course but a few Ambridgeans I could
name.

krw

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Jan 21, 2017, 2:10:26ā€ÆPM1/21/17
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On 21/1/17 5:04 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote; my response is lower down:
> even an adult, Henry will (or at least might) really resent how they've
> kept him from his "Daddy", whom he loves (and they haven't tried to
> change that; probably they shouldn't, but there's no easy answer to that
> sort of thing IRL).

Once he is an adult explaining that the courts did not consider it
appropriate for Mr T to have influence on his non-son might be a point
worth making.

--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
tiny.cc/KRWpics

Btms

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Jan 21, 2017, 2:47:30ā€ÆPM1/21/17
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krw <k...@whitnet.uk> wrote:
> On 21/1/17 5:04 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote; my response is lower down:
>> even an adult, Henry will (or at least might) really resent how they've
>> kept him from his "Daddy", whom he loves (and they haven't tried to
>> change that; probably they shouldn't, but there's no easy answer to that
>> sort of thing IRL).
>
> Once he is an adult explaining that the courts did not consider it
> appropriate for Mr T to have influence on his non-son might be a point
> worth making.
>

Or give him a copy of the report in the local paper.

J. P. Gilliver (John)

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Jan 21, 2017, 4:20:17ā€ÆPM1/21/17
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In message
<1943604733.506720495.153...@news.eternal-september.
He could still decide that the courts (and paper) were wrong; it's all a
matter of one person's word against another, or at least very difficult
to prove. Add to that Rob's skill with situational manipulation,
assuming he's still around then rather than having been driven to
suicide/madness by the SWs/editor, and There Will Be Sad Times Ahead.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual
rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities. - Ayn Rand, quoted by Deb
Shinder 2012-3-30

Vicky

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Jan 21, 2017, 5:02:57ā€ÆPM1/21/17
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On Sat, 21 Jan 2017 21:18:11 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
<G6...@soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>In message
><1943604733.506720495.153...@news.eternal-september.
>org>, Btms <po...@thetames.me.uk> writes:
>>krw <k...@whitnet.uk> wrote:
>>> On 21/1/17 5:04 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote; my response is lower down:
>>>> even an adult, Henry will (or at least might) really resent how they've
>>>> kept him from his "Daddy", whom he loves (and they haven't tried to
>>>> change that; probably they shouldn't, but there's no easy answer to that
>>>> sort of thing IRL).
>>>
>>> Once he is an adult explaining that the courts did not consider it
>>> appropriate for Mr T to have influence on his non-son might be a point
>>> worth making.
>>>
>>
>>Or give him a copy of the report in the local paper.
>>
>He could still decide that the courts (and paper) were wrong; it's all a
>matter of one person's word against another, or at least very difficult
>to prove. Add to that Rob's skill with situational manipulation,
>assuming he's still around then rather than having been driven to
>suicide/madness by the SWs/editor, and There Will Be Sad Times Ahead.

Might Helen then remind him of the various times, like when Rob took
his chocolate and rabbit, when Rob was unkind and over-bearing?

--

Vicky

J. P. Gilliver (John)

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Jan 21, 2017, 5:13:05ā€ÆPM1/21/17
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In message <vim78c9rv05st0a7h...@4ax.com>, Vicky
<vicky...@gmail.com> writes:
>On Sat, 21 Jan 2017 21:18:11 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
><G6...@soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote:
[]
>>>> On 21/1/17 5:04 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote; my response is lower down:
>>>>> even an adult, Henry will (or at least might) really resent how they've
>>>>> kept him from his "Daddy", whom he loves (and they haven't tried to
[]
>>He could still decide that the courts (and paper) were wrong; it's all a
>>matter of one person's word against another, or at least very difficult
>>to prove. Add to that Rob's skill with situational manipulation,
>>assuming he's still around then rather than having been driven to
>>suicide/madness by the SWs/editor, and There Will Be Sad Times Ahead.
>
>Might Helen then remind him of the various times, like when Rob took
>his chocolate and rabbit, when Rob was unkind and over-bearing?
>
Good point. He should be reminded of those in the short time-scale,
though, or he may forget about them (or dismiss them as Childish Things
later, especially if later is when he's a teenager).
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Religion is a name for opinion that cannot be argued about. [Heard on Radio 4,
2010-10-18, 9:xx.]

John Ashby

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Jan 21, 2017, 5:15:09ā€ÆPM1/21/17
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On 21/01/17 21:18, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
> In message
> <1943604733.506720495.153...@news.eternal-september.
> org>, Btms <po...@thetames.me.uk> writes:
>> krw <k...@whitnet.uk> wrote:
>>> On 21/1/17 5:04 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote; my response is lower
>>> down:
>>>> even an adult, Henry will (or at least might) really resent how they've
>>>> kept him from his "Daddy", whom he loves (and they haven't tried to
>>>> change that; probably they shouldn't, but there's no easy answer to
>>>> that
>>>> sort of thing IRL).
>>>
>>> Once he is an adult explaining that the courts did not consider it
>>> appropriate for Mr T to have influence on his non-son might be a point
>>> worth making.
>>>
>>
>> Or give him a copy of the report in the local paper.
>>
> He could still decide that the courts (and paper) were wrong; it's all a
> matter of one person's word against another, or at least very difficult
> to prove. Add to that Rob's skill with situational manipulation,
> assuming he's still around then rather than having been driven to
> suicide/madness by the SWs/editor, and There Will Be Sad Times Ahead.

Suicide is probably the most aggressive act he could perpetrate on
Helen, knowing her history with Greg. To lose one partner to a shotgun
might be considered a misfortune,...

john

Mike McMillan

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Jan 21, 2017, 5:54:17ā€ÆPM1/21/17
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John Ashby <johna...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Suicide is probably the most aggressive act he could perpetrate on
> Helen, knowing her history with Greg. To lose one partner to a shotgun
> might be considered a misfortune,...
>
> john
>

To lose a second would be an excellent idea!

--
Toodle Pip

Nick Odell

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Jan 21, 2017, 8:06:44ā€ÆPM1/21/17
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On 21/01/2017 17:07, Btms wrote:
> Mike McMillan <mike.m...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> LFS <la...@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree. There is still much to play out here before we see the back of him.
>>>
>>
>> However, I think the gloatability factor has increased considerably this
>> week. šŸ˜‰
>>
>
> And that schaden....thingy. Not us of course but a few Ambridgeans I could
> name.
>
Sigmund's smarter, younger brother?

Nick

Nick Odell

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Jan 21, 2017, 8:09:37ā€ÆPM1/21/17
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On 21/01/2017 19:10, krw wrote:
> On 21/1/17 5:04 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote; my response is lower down:
>> even an adult, Henry will (or at least might) really resent how they've
>> kept him from his "Daddy", whom he loves (and they haven't tried to
>> change that; probably they shouldn't, but there's no easy answer to that
>> sort of thing IRL).
>
> Once he is an adult explaining that the courts did not consider it
> appropriate for Mr T to have influence on his non-son might be a point
> worth making.
>
T
Yes. Sitting Henry down in front of endless re-runs of the complete
"A-Team" box-set was a bad mistake on Rob's part.

Nick

Sid Nuncius

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Jan 22, 2017, 2:40:11ā€ÆAM1/22/17
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On 21/01/2017 21:18, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
> Btms <po...@thetames.me.uk> writes:

>> Or give him a copy of the report in the local paper.
>>
> He could still decide that the courts (and paper) were wrong;

Well quite. Why would anyone trust a report in a paper if the world's
media all misreport the crowd size at a Presidential Inauguration,
exaggerate the extent of protests and manufacture some false story about
a President Elect tweeting extremely critical remarks about the US
security services?

--
Sid (Make sure Matron is away when you reply)

BrritSki

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Jan 22, 2017, 3:33:58ā€ÆAM1/22/17
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<applause>


Serena Blanchflower

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Jan 22, 2017, 5:24:23ā€ÆAM1/22/17
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Yes, I think it would be almost impossible for Henry (or, to a lesser
degree, Jack) to get through this without serious, long term, problems.
First he had all the stresses between Helen and Rob, at Blossom Hill
Cottage, followed by watching his mum plunge a knife into his daddy.
After that, his mummy vanished from his life and then, a few months
later, mummy reappeared and daddy vanished.

It probably doesn't help that the family are highly unlikely to discuss
any of this with Henry, even when he's old enough to understand - and
it's hard to know what he should be told when.

--
Best wishes, Serena
I woke up today with a strong desire to accomplish something. Luckily, I
remembered that a nap is something. (Henri, Le Chat Noir )

Serena Blanchflower

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Jan 22, 2017, 5:26:42ā€ÆAM1/22/17
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While, to lose two sounds like lazy scriptwriting.

If this wasn't TA, I'd be seriously worried that we were being set up
for Rob murdering the boys before, probably, killing himself - on the
basis that, if he couldn't have them, no one else should either.
Thankfully, I don't think TA would do that to us.


--
Best wishes, Serena
The greatest glory of living lies not in never falling but in rising
every time you fall. (Nelson Mandela)

Mike McMillan

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Jan 22, 2017, 6:10:53ā€ÆAM1/22/17
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Serena Blanchflower <nos...@blanchflower.me.uk> wrote:

> If this wasn't TA, I'd be seriously worried that we were being set up
> for Rob murdering the boys before, probably, killing himself - on the
> basis that, if he couldn't have them, no one else should either.
> Thankfully, I don't think TA would do that to us.
>
>

Titchy could just do away with himself in his new flat and rot there for a
few weeks until discovered....

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Toodle Pip

Vicky

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Jan 22, 2017, 6:38:42ā€ÆAM1/22/17
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On Sun, 22 Jan 2017 10:26:45 +0000, Serena Blanchflower
<nos...@blanchflower.me.uk> wrote:

>
>If this wasn't TA, I'd be seriously worried that we were being set up
>for Rob murdering the boys before, probably, killing himself - on the
>basis that, if he couldn't have them, no one else should either.
>Thankfully, I don't think TA would do that to us.

Sadly I am not confident they wouldn't. B thinks that he will at least
try.


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Vicky

Serena Blanchflower

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Jan 22, 2017, 6:52:12ā€ÆAM1/22/17
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I agree with B that he may try but I don't think TA would allow him to
get away with it. I really hope I'm right about that anyway!


--
Best wishes, Serena
Do you try to set aside times of quiet for openness to the Holy Spirit?
(Quaker Advices and Queries #3)

Sam Plusnet

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Jan 22, 2017, 9:25:13ā€ÆPM1/22/17
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To be fair. The Ambridge Tree is still ahead on points in man'slaughter.

Correction: Tom Forrest bagged a poacher so (I think) that makes them
even. (We don't count badgers do we?)
>
> If this wasn't TA, I'd be seriously worried that we were being set up
> for Rob murdering the boys before, probably, killing himself - on the
> basis that, if he couldn't have them, no one else should either.
> Thankfully, I don't think TA would do that to us.
>
>


--
Sam Plusnet
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