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Marjorie
Apr 30, 2012, 6:50:54 AM4/30/12
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Usha is supposed to be an intelligent woman with well developed social
and communication skills. She has discovered that the boyfriend of her
step daughter appears to be married, but she has failed to mention this
to Amy, Alan or even Carl himself, despite various opportunities
presenting themselves. When she and Alan had a few moments alone (this
was, I think, a day after he'd returned home, so they'd presumably have
had a night alone together) she just let him rabbit on about how nice
Carl is, and by the time she got round to saying, ""Alan.." it was too
late (again).
What's the matter with her? Is she happy to go on entertaining Carl in
her home, listening to his excuses for absences, and allowing Amy to be
deceived, until she finds a comfortable opportunity to pass the buck on
to Alan and feels in the mood to do so?
This SWs' ploy of postponing a disclosure by constant interruptions is
getting ridiculous. Any rational person in Usha's position would have a
sense of urgency about this and be anxious to deal with it before any
further damage was done. Usha and Alan live together. Since she
evidently isn't going to confront Carl or Amy about this herself, why
hasn't she told her husband?
--
Marjorie
To reply, replace dontusethisaddress with marje
and communication skills. She has discovered that the boyfriend of her
step daughter appears to be married, but she has failed to mention this
to Amy, Alan or even Carl himself, despite various opportunities
presenting themselves. When she and Alan had a few moments alone (this
was, I think, a day after he'd returned home, so they'd presumably have
had a night alone together) she just let him rabbit on about how nice
Carl is, and by the time she got round to saying, ""Alan.." it was too
late (again).
What's the matter with her? Is she happy to go on entertaining Carl in
her home, listening to his excuses for absences, and allowing Amy to be
deceived, until she finds a comfortable opportunity to pass the buck on
to Alan and feels in the mood to do so?
This SWs' ploy of postponing a disclosure by constant interruptions is
getting ridiculous. Any rational person in Usha's position would have a
sense of urgency about this and be anxious to deal with it before any
further damage was done. Usha and Alan live together. Since she
evidently isn't going to confront Carl or Amy about this herself, why
hasn't she told her husband?
--
Marjorie
To reply, replace dontusethisaddress with marje
a l l y
Apr 30, 2012, 7:04:17 AM4/30/12
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"Marjorie" <dontuseth...@springequinox.co.uk> wrote in message
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Yes. Quite. In her position, I'd have told him practically before I did
anything else, as soon as he got home! I can't think of any good reason why
she'd be reluctant or worried about telling him. What's the point of being
in a long-term relationship if your other half isn't your confidante,
especially when it's a matter concerning him?
ally
news:BLidnUOj74c98wPS...@brightview.co.uk...
anything else, as soon as he got home! I can't think of any good reason why
she'd be reluctant or worried about telling him. What's the point of being
in a long-term relationship if your other half isn't your confidante,
especially when it's a matter concerning him?
ally
badriya
Apr 30, 2012, 7:06:07 AM4/30/12
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designing the story lines and directions is a pile of slurry. What
the SW team need is one of those expensive slurry pits to deal with
the problem.
--
Vicky
badriya
Apr 30, 2012, 7:09:04 AM4/30/12
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the holes in it. Not that he listens to TA, oh nonono, or reads
UMRA. He doesn't have to read it. I read it to him ;)
--
Vicky
Chris J Dixon
Apr 30, 2012, 7:10:39 AM4/30/12
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Marjorie wrote:
>This SWs' ploy of postponing a disclosure by constant interruptions is
>getting ridiculous. Any rational person in Usha's position would have a
>sense of urgency about this and be anxious to deal with it before any
>further damage was done. Usha and Alan live together. Since she
>evidently isn't going to confront Carl or Amy about this herself, why
>hasn't she told her husband?
Looking at it logically, this all-too-common dramatic device is
>This SWs' ploy of postponing a disclosure by constant interruptions is
>getting ridiculous. Any rational person in Usha's position would have a
>sense of urgency about this and be anxious to deal with it before any
>further damage was done. Usha and Alan live together. Since she
>evidently isn't going to confront Carl or Amy about this herself, why
>hasn't she told her husband?
pretty hard to believe isn't it? Just because it doesn't happen
during the 73 minutes a week during which we eavesdrop, we are
expected to accept that no other opportunities could possibly
have presented themselves.
Presumably Ruth is about to be consulted.
Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham
'48/31 M B+ G+ A L(-) I S-- CH0(--)(p) Ar+ T+ H0 ?Q
ch...@cdixon.me.uk
Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh.
Robin Fairbairns
Apr 30, 2012, 7:15:17 AM4/30/12
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badriya <badr...@gmail.com> writes:
> On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 11:50:54 +0100, Marjorie
> <dontuseth...@springequinox.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>[...]
> On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 11:50:54 +0100, Marjorie
> <dontuseth...@springequinox.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>This SWs' ploy of postponing a disclosure by constant interruptions is
>>getting ridiculous. Any rational person in Usha's position would have a
>>sense of urgency about this and be anxious to deal with it before any
>>further damage was done. Usha and Alan live together. Since she
>>evidently isn't going to confront Carl or Amy about this herself, why
>>hasn't she told her husband?
>
> You do well to ask why. I think it might be because the person
> designing the story lines and directions is a pile of slurry. What
> the SW team need is one of those expensive slurry pits to deal with
> the problem.
hmm. surely it's difficult to have a _pile_ of slurry, other than in
>>getting ridiculous. Any rational person in Usha's position would have a
>>sense of urgency about this and be anxious to deal with it before any
>>further damage was done. Usha and Alan live together. Since she
>>evidently isn't going to confront Carl or Amy about this herself, why
>>hasn't she told her husband?
>
> You do well to ask why. I think it might be because the person
> designing the story lines and directions is a pile of slurry. What
> the SW team need is one of those expensive slurry pits to deal with
> the problem.
antarctica (so some such place). has the sw team emigrated to
antarctica? (would explain how they come to be so far removed from real
life, i suppose.)
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge
sorry about all this posting. i'll go back to sleep in a bit.
badriya
Apr 30, 2012, 8:01:46 AM4/30/12
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it does sound more liquid. The word does. Wikipedia says it is a
mixture of animal waste and water used as fertilizer.
--
Vicky
badriya
Apr 30, 2012, 8:08:32 AM4/30/12
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On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 12:10:39 +0100, Chris J Dixon <ch...@cdixon.me.uk>
wrote:
>Marjorie wrote:
>
>>This SWs' ploy of postponing a disclosure by constant interruptions is
>>getting ridiculous. Any rational person in Usha's position would have a
>>sense of urgency about this and be anxious to deal with it before any
>>further damage was done. Usha and Alan live together. Since she
>>evidently isn't going to confront Carl or Amy about this herself, why
>>hasn't she told her husband?
>
>Looking at it logically, this all-too-common dramatic device is
>pretty hard to believe isn't it? Just because it doesn't happen
>during the 73 minutes a week during which we eavesdrop, we are
>expected to accept that no other opportunities could possibly
>have presented themselves.
>
>Presumably Ruth is about to be consulted.
>
>Chris
That might be their idea of a suspenseful plot line. Usha tells Ruth.
Ruth confides in David. David shares it with Brian or Adam while at
the hospital and Brian tells Anabelle. She tells Carl's wife? Or
Jennifer tells Alice who tells Amy?
--
Vicky
wrote:
>Marjorie wrote:
>
>>This SWs' ploy of postponing a disclosure by constant interruptions is
>>getting ridiculous. Any rational person in Usha's position would have a
>>sense of urgency about this and be anxious to deal with it before any
>>further damage was done. Usha and Alan live together. Since she
>>evidently isn't going to confront Carl or Amy about this herself, why
>>hasn't she told her husband?
>
>Looking at it logically, this all-too-common dramatic device is
>pretty hard to believe isn't it? Just because it doesn't happen
>during the 73 minutes a week during which we eavesdrop, we are
>expected to accept that no other opportunities could possibly
>have presented themselves.
>
>Presumably Ruth is about to be consulted.
>
>Chris
Ruth confides in David. David shares it with Brian or Adam while at
the hospital and Brian tells Anabelle. She tells Carl's wife? Or
Jennifer tells Alice who tells Amy?
--
Vicky
Sebastian Lisken
Apr 30, 2012, 8:58:19 AM4/30/12
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Marjorie <dontuseth...@springequinox.co.uk> wrote:
> This SWs' ploy of postponing a disclosure by constant interruptions is
> getting ridiculous. Any rational person in Usha's position would have a
> sense of urgency about this and be anxious to deal with it before any
> further damage was done.
Those were my exact thoughts as I listened, and I think complaints
> This SWs' ploy of postponing a disclosure by constant interruptions is
> getting ridiculous. Any rational person in Usha's position would have a
> sense of urgency about this and be anxious to deal with it before any
> further damage was done.
should be sent to Feedback. Not that they'd admit any wrongdoing.
Sebastian
a l l y
Apr 30, 2012, 9:38:24 AM4/30/12
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"badriya" <badr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Yes when you live in the countryside you know all about slurry, whether you
like it or not. Just when you've got used to a nice reliable dog-walk across
several sheep-free fields, the time of year comes around when the farmer
decides to spread slurry all over the hitherto pristine, grass-scented
grass, making said walk only available to those wearing washable footwear
and suffering from stuffy noses. Some dogs, of course, love the stuff and
will happily roll in it.
ally
news:vkvsp71jg406rvolj...@4ax.com...
like it or not. Just when you've got used to a nice reliable dog-walk across
several sheep-free fields, the time of year comes around when the farmer
decides to spread slurry all over the hitherto pristine, grass-scented
grass, making said walk only available to those wearing washable footwear
and suffering from stuffy noses. Some dogs, of course, love the stuff and
will happily roll in it.
ally
EllTee
Apr 30, 2012, 10:00:44 AM4/30/12
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In article <kkssp7936ghq7bk7e...@4ax.com>,
--
Btms
badriya wrote:
>
>
> B says badgers have tunneled into the script which accounts for all
> the holes in it. Not that he listens to TA, oh nonono, or reads
> UMRA. He doesn't have to read it. I read it to him ;)
I caught Mr Btms lurking in umra recently.
>
>
> B says badgers have tunneled into the script which accounts for all
> the holes in it. Not that he listens to TA, oh nonono, or reads
> UMRA. He doesn't have to read it. I read it to him ;)
--
Btms
Mark Williams
Apr 30, 2012, 10:31:54 AM4/30/12
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Robin Fairbairns
Apr 30, 2012, 10:59:04 AM4/30/12
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badriya <badr...@gmail.com> writes:
> B says badgers have tunneled into the script which accounts for all
> the holes in it. Not that he listens to TA, oh nonono, or reads
> UMRA. He doesn't have to read it. I read it to him ;)
<giggles> (again, coming back to it...)
> B says badgers have tunneled into the script which accounts for all
> the holes in it. Not that he listens to TA, oh nonono, or reads
> UMRA. He doesn't have to read it. I read it to him ;)
Martin Clark
Apr 30, 2012, 11:14:05 AM4/30/12
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On 30/04/2012 12:15, Robin Fairbairns wrote:
> badriya<badr...@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 11:50:54 +0100, Marjorie
>> <dontuseth...@springequinox.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> [...]
>>> This SWs' ploy of postponing a disclosure by constant interruptions is
>>> getting ridiculous. Any rational person in Usha's position would have a
>>> sense of urgency about this and be anxious to deal with it before any
>>> further damage was done. Usha and Alan live together. Since she
>>> evidently isn't going to confront Carl or Amy about this herself, why
>>> hasn't she told her husband?
>>
>> You do well to ask why. I think it might be because the person
>> designing the story lines and directions is a pile of slurry. What
>> the SW team need is one of those expensive slurry pits to deal with
>> the problem.
>
> hmm. surely it's difficult to have a _pile_ of slurry, other than in
> antarctica (so some such place).
That would be the slurry with the fridge on top.
> badriya<badr...@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 11:50:54 +0100, Marjorie
>> <dontuseth...@springequinox.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> [...]
>>> This SWs' ploy of postponing a disclosure by constant interruptions is
>>> getting ridiculous. Any rational person in Usha's position would have a
>>> sense of urgency about this and be anxious to deal with it before any
>>> further damage was done. Usha and Alan live together. Since she
>>> evidently isn't going to confront Carl or Amy about this herself, why
>>> hasn't she told her husband?
>>
>> You do well to ask why. I think it might be because the person
>> designing the story lines and directions is a pile of slurry. What
>> the SW team need is one of those expensive slurry pits to deal with
>> the problem.
>
> hmm. surely it's difficult to have a _pile_ of slurry, other than in
> antarctica (so some such place).
--
Martin
Martin Clark
Apr 30, 2012, 11:15:53 AM4/30/12
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On 30/04/2012 13:08, badriya wrote:
>
> That might be their idea of a suspenseful plot line. Usha tells Ruth.
> Ruth confides in David. David shares it with Brian or Adam while at
> the hospital and Brian tells Anabelle. She tells Carl's wife? Or
> Jennifer tells Alice who tells Amy?
>
That sounds very convoluted. Isn't Susan in the cast this week?
>
> That might be their idea of a suspenseful plot line. Usha tells Ruth.
> Ruth confides in David. David shares it with Brian or Adam while at
> the hospital and Brian tells Anabelle. She tells Carl's wife? Or
> Jennifer tells Alice who tells Amy?
>
--
Martin
Martin Clark
Apr 30, 2012, 11:22:51 AM4/30/12
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On 30/04/2012 11:50, Marjorie wrote:
> Usha is supposed to be an intelligent woman with well developed social
> and communication skills. She has discovered that the boyfriend of her
> step daughter appears to be married, but she has failed to mention this
> to Amy, Alan or even Carl himself, despite various opportunities
> presenting themselves. When she and Alan had a few moments alone (this
> was, I think, a day after he'd returned home, so they'd presumably have
> had a night alone together) she just let him rabbit on about how nice
> Carl is, and by the time she got round to saying, ""Alan.." it was too
> late (again).
Lazy scriptwriting. And didn't you know that the characters never speak
> Usha is supposed to be an intelligent woman with well developed social
> and communication skills. She has discovered that the boyfriend of her
> step daughter appears to be married, but she has failed to mention this
> to Amy, Alan or even Carl himself, despite various opportunities
> presenting themselves. When she and Alan had a few moments alone (this
> was, I think, a day after he'd returned home, so they'd presumably have
> had a night alone together) she just let him rabbit on about how nice
> Carl is, and by the time she got round to saying, ""Alan.." it was too
> late (again).
to each other in bed or at any other time when the microphones are
switched off? At 7.20 pm each evening everyone in the village goes into
a sort of cryonic state until being re-activated the following day.
> What's the matter with her?
--
Martin
Marjorie
Apr 30, 2012, 11:37:00 AM4/30/12
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woman, and she does not deserve this visitation by the Personality
Transplant Fairy, turning her into an idiot for the sake of dramatic
tension.
Steve Hague
Apr 30, 2012, 12:25:15 PM4/30/12
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Alan all about it as soon as he got home. After all she is married to just
about the most (or possibly only) sensitive man in Ambridge.
Steve
EllTee
Apr 30, 2012, 12:28:28 PM4/30/12
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In article <8rWdnXQWvaswLAPS...@brightview.co.uk>,
They could have achieved a similar dramatic affect by Usha telling Alan
but then being interrupted before they had chance to discuss it properly
and both being quite distracted about all else that is happening because
of the shared need to get back to the Amy/Carl discussion asap.
--
Btms
but then being interrupted before they had chance to discuss it properly
and both being quite distracted about all else that is happening because
of the shared need to get back to the Amy/Carl discussion asap.
--
Btms
Dumrat
Apr 30, 2012, 1:43:11 PM4/30/12
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this, but you all put it so much better than wot I could have :)
--
Salaam Alaykum,
Anne, Exceptionally Traditionally-built Dumrat
J. P. Gilliver (John)
Apr 30, 2012, 3:32:21 PM4/30/12
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In message <a07ohv...@mid.individual.net>, Martin Clark
language-loving friends might not know Oklahoma. (Where, incidentally,
my brother's just been doing a lecture tour - at least, it included OK.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
When you do not know what you are doing, do it neatly.
<re...@your.peril> writes:
>On 30/04/2012 12:15, Robin Fairbairns wrote:
>> badriya<badr...@gmail.com> writes:
[]
>On 30/04/2012 12:15, Robin Fairbairns wrote:
>> badriya<badr...@gmail.com> writes:
>>> You do well to ask why. I think it might be because the person
>>> designing the story lines and directions is a pile of slurry. What
>>> the SW team need is one of those expensive slurry pits to deal with
>>> the problem.
>>
>> hmm. surely it's difficult to have a _pile_ of slurry, other than in
>> antarctica (so some such place).
>
>That would be the slurry with the fridge on top.
Very quick! I'm just wondering who I can share that with; my
>>> designing the story lines and directions is a pile of slurry. What
>>> the SW team need is one of those expensive slurry pits to deal with
>>> the problem.
>>
>> hmm. surely it's difficult to have a _pile_ of slurry, other than in
>> antarctica (so some such place).
>
>That would be the slurry with the fridge on top.
language-loving friends might not know Oklahoma. (Where, incidentally,
my brother's just been doing a lecture tour - at least, it included OK.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
When you do not know what you are doing, do it neatly.
J. P. Gilliver (John)
Apr 30, 2012, 3:39:02 PM4/30/12
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In message <a07gjb...@mid.dfncis.de>, Sebastian Lisken
[]
Well, not Usha particularly, but the overuse of the dramatic device of
something important (especially something needing to be communicated)
being interrupted by something, be it a 'phone call or a mother, _is_
worthy of a communication to FedUp. It would be becoming a joke, if it
wasn't so irritating; definitely lazy SWing.
Well, not Usha particularly, but the overuse of the dramatic device of
something important (especially something needing to be communicated)
being interrupted by something, be it a 'phone call or a mother, _is_
worthy of a communication to FedUp. It would be becoming a joke, if it
wasn't so irritating; definitely lazy SWing.
Mower Man
Apr 30, 2012, 4:10:27 PM4/30/12
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ever acts credibly or with any regard to others - all is sublimated to
the "hook", the endless unfinished story.
--
Chris
'Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it
every six months.'
(Oscar Wilde.)
john ashby
Apr 30, 2012, 4:33:57 PM4/30/12
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john
Sebastian Lisken
Apr 30, 2012, 4:36:24 PM4/30/12
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6...@soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote:
[about my suggestion to complain to Feedback]
in a situation when someone has something important to tell. Jennifer
interrupting Alice and Chris is something else I think, annoying too
but in my view in a different category.
Now that we've heard Usha talk to Ruth, the whole thing is looking a
bit different. Usha must have been wanting to tell Alan for a while
(as we heard her start "Alan ...") but then changed her mind. Now she
has a very specific reason to talk to Amy first. Are the SWs absolved
this once?
Sebastian
[about my suggestion to complain to Feedback]
> Well, not Usha particularly, but the overuse of the dramatic device of
> something important (especially something needing to be communicated)
> being interrupted by something
Yes, I didn't mean Usha in particular, but that device, especially
> something important (especially something needing to be communicated)
> being interrupted by something
in a situation when someone has something important to tell. Jennifer
interrupting Alice and Chris is something else I think, annoying too
but in my view in a different category.
Now that we've heard Usha talk to Ruth, the whole thing is looking a
bit different. Usha must have been wanting to tell Alan for a while
(as we heard her start "Alan ...") but then changed her mind. Now she
has a very specific reason to talk to Amy first. Are the SWs absolved
this once?
Sebastian
badriya
Apr 30, 2012, 5:07:10 PM4/30/12
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On 30 Apr 2012 20:36:24 GMT, Sebastian Lisken
Well, I don't think Amy would lie about Carl being married or not. I
think if she had known he was married she would just have refrained
from bringing him home to introduce him to Usha and Alan, but then I
suppose the question is does Usha know her well enough to know that. I
think she probably does, in which case this is still silly.
I saw something very unusual on tv yesterday morning . I sometimes
catch a feedback type programme in the morning around 8a.m on BBC1 and
viewers' letters are read out and sometimes BBC producers are
interviewed to respond to criticism.
The criticism was about the quality of the morning magazine/news since
it moved to Salford a few weeks ago. The producer said they were
listening to criticisms and tweeking the camera angles etc to comply
with comments!
--
Vicky
think if she had known he was married she would just have refrained
from bringing him home to introduce him to Usha and Alan, but then I
suppose the question is does Usha know her well enough to know that. I
think she probably does, in which case this is still silly.
I saw something very unusual on tv yesterday morning . I sometimes
catch a feedback type programme in the morning around 8a.m on BBC1 and
viewers' letters are read out and sometimes BBC producers are
interviewed to respond to criticism.
The criticism was about the quality of the morning magazine/news since
it moved to Salford a few weeks ago. The producer said they were
listening to criticisms and tweeking the camera angles etc to comply
with comments!
--
Vicky
Martin Clark
Apr 30, 2012, 5:20:24 PM4/30/12
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On 30/04/2012 20:32, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
> In message <a07ohv...@mid.individual.net>, Martin Clark
> <re...@your.peril> writes:
>> On 30/04/2012 12:15, Robin Fairbairns wrote:
>>> badriya<badr...@gmail.com> writes:
> []
>>>> You do well to ask why. I think it might be because the person
>>>> designing the story lines and directions is a pile of slurry. What
>>>> the SW team need is one of those expensive slurry pits to deal with
>>>> the problem.
>>>
>>> hmm. surely it's difficult to have a _pile_ of slurry, other than in
>>> antarctica (so some such place).
>>
>> That would be the slurry with the fridge on top.
>
> Very quick! I'm just wondering who I can share that with; my
> language-loving friends might not know Oklahoma. (Where, incidentally,
> my brother's just been doing a lecture tour - at least, it included OK.)
So does Stoke-on-Trent! :)
> In message <a07ohv...@mid.individual.net>, Martin Clark
> <re...@your.peril> writes:
>> On 30/04/2012 12:15, Robin Fairbairns wrote:
>>> badriya<badr...@gmail.com> writes:
> []
>>>> You do well to ask why. I think it might be because the person
>>>> designing the story lines and directions is a pile of slurry. What
>>>> the SW team need is one of those expensive slurry pits to deal with
>>>> the problem.
>>>
>>> hmm. surely it's difficult to have a _pile_ of slurry, other than in
>>> antarctica (so some such place).
>>
>> That would be the slurry with the fridge on top.
>
> Very quick! I'm just wondering who I can share that with; my
> language-loving friends might not know Oklahoma. (Where, incidentally,
> my brother's just been doing a lecture tour - at least, it included OK.)
--
Martin
Tony Bryer
Apr 30, 2012, 6:03:16 PM4/30/12
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On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 17:25:15 +0100 Steve Hague wrote :
> Yes, this is getting very silly indeed. The Usha we all know would have
> told Alan all about it as soon as he got home. After all she is married
> to just about the most (or possibly only) sensitive man in Ambridge.
She knows who Carl is (via CoC) so surely the most appropriate way to
> Yes, this is getting very silly indeed. The Usha we all know would have
> told Alan all about it as soon as he got home. After all she is married
> to just about the most (or possibly only) sensitive man in Ambridge.
handle this would be for her to phone him up, tell him she knows he's
married, and that he needs to let Amy down sensitively rather promptly.
--
Tony B, OzRat, Melbourne
Dr Nick
May 1, 2012, 2:08:24 AM5/1/12
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badriya <badr...@gmail.com> writes:
> I saw something very unusual on tv yesterday morning . I sometimes
> catch a feedback type programme in the morning around 8a.m on BBC1 and
> viewers' letters are read out and sometimes BBC producers are
> interviewed to respond to criticism.
>
> The criticism was about the quality of the morning magazine/news since
> it moved to Salford a few weeks ago. The producer said they were
> listening to criticisms and tweeking the camera angles etc to comply
> with comments!
Perhaps they lost the script in the move - it's still in the bottom of a
> I saw something very unusual on tv yesterday morning . I sometimes
> catch a feedback type programme in the morning around 8a.m on BBC1 and
> viewers' letters are read out and sometimes BBC producers are
> interviewed to respond to criticism.
>
> The criticism was about the quality of the morning magazine/news since
> it moved to Salford a few weeks ago. The producer said they were
> listening to criticisms and tweeking the camera angles etc to comply
> with comments!
box somewhere - and so had to give a real answer instead.
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6...@soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <a07gjb...@mid.dfncis.de>, Sebastian Lisken
> <lis...@math.Uni-Bielefeld-deletethis.de> writes:
>> Marjorie <dontuseth...@springequinox.co.uk> wrote:
>>> This SWs' ploy of postponing a disclosure by constant interruptions is
>>> getting ridiculous. Any rational person in Usha's position would have a
>>> sense of urgency about this and be anxious to deal with it before any
>>> further damage was done.
>>
>> Those were my exact thoughts as I listened, and I think complaints
>> should be sent to Feedback. Not that they'd admit any wrongdoing.
> []
> Well, not Usha particularly, but the overuse of the dramatic device of
> something important (especially something needing to be communicated)
> being interrupted by something, be it a 'phone call or a mother, _is_
> worthy of a communication to FedUp. It would be becoming a joke, if it
> wasn't so irritating; definitely lazy SWing.
It's beginning to sound like farce, all those phones, people coming in and
> <lis...@math.Uni-Bielefeld-deletethis.de> writes:
>> Marjorie <dontuseth...@springequinox.co.uk> wrote:
>>> This SWs' ploy of postponing a disclosure by constant interruptions is
>>> getting ridiculous. Any rational person in Usha's position would have a
>>> sense of urgency about this and be anxious to deal with it before any
>>> further damage was done.
>>
>> Those were my exact thoughts as I listened, and I think complaints
>> should be sent to Feedback. Not that they'd admit any wrongdoing.
> []
> Well, not Usha particularly, but the overuse of the dramatic device of
> something important (especially something needing to be communicated)
> being interrupted by something, be it a 'phone call or a mother, _is_
> worthy of a communication to FedUp. It would be becoming a joke, if it
> wasn't so irritating; definitely lazy SWing.
out of doors, and nearly being caught without their trousers.
--
Sally in Shropshire, UK
carolet
May 1, 2012, 3:26:06 AM5/1/12
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>>
>> Now that we've heard Usha talk to Ruth, the whole thing is looking a
>> bit different. Usha must have been wanting to tell Alan for a while
>> (as we heard her start "Alan ...") but then changed her mind. Now she
>> has a very specific reason to talk to Amy first. Are the SWs absolved
>> this once?
the doubt for the moment. Usha does need to do something soon though, or
that moment will pass.
>>
>> Sebastian
>
>
> Well, I don't think Amy would lie about Carl being married or not. I
> think if she had known he was married she would just have refrained
> from bringing him home to introduce him to Usha and Alan, but then I
> suppose the question is does Usha know her well enough to know that. I
> think she probably does, in which case this is still silly.
accident, and liked him, that she brought him home.
Has Amy said anything about Carl's marital status? I'd think it was a bit
odd if my daughter brought a chap home and told me that he was single.
--
CaroleT
Marjorie
May 1, 2012, 3:57:46 AM5/1/12
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to withhold this information from Alan, or (more to the point) would be
likely to do so. If it turns out that Amy has known all along that Carl
is married, Alan is almost certainly bound to find out and will wonder
why he was the last to know. He'll be angry with Usha for not telling
him. It doesn't seem feasible to me that a wife would keep quiet about
something important concerning her husband's daughter, especially
something he's likely to find out eventually, and which she has now
shared with someone outside the family. It still doesn't ring true.
Dumrat
May 1, 2012, 4:05:15 AM5/1/12
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told their husbads first chance they got, probably off-mike.
Marjorie
May 1, 2012, 4:06:23 AM5/1/12
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On 01/05/2012 08:26, carolet wrote:
>>>
>>> Now that we've heard Usha talk to Ruth, the whole thing is looking a
>>> bit different. Usha must have been wanting to tell Alan for a while
>>> (as we heard her start "Alan ...") but then changed her mind. Now she
>>> has a very specific reason to talk to Amy first. Are the SWs absolved
>>> this once?
>
> I don't know about absolved, but I'm prepared to give them the benefit of
> the doubt for the moment. Usha does need to do something soon though, or
> that moment will pass.
Well, she's told Ruth but that's about the least helpful thing she could
>>>
>>> Now that we've heard Usha talk to Ruth, the whole thing is looking a
>>> bit different. Usha must have been wanting to tell Alan for a while
>>> (as we heard her start "Alan ...") but then changed her mind. Now she
>>> has a very specific reason to talk to Amy first. Are the SWs absolved
>>> this once?
>
> I don't know about absolved, but I'm prepared to give them the benefit of
> the doubt for the moment. Usha does need to do something soon though, or
> that moment will pass.
do. The secret is now no longer a secret, and she needs to get a move on
before it bounces around the village and comes back to Alan or Amy.
(Ruth-David-Brian-Alice...?)
>
>>>
>>> Sebastian
>>
>>
>> Well, I don't think Amy would lie about Carl being married or not. I
>> think if she had known he was married she would just have refrained
>> from bringing him home to introduce him to Usha and Alan, but then I
>> suppose the question is does Usha know her well enough to know that. I
>> think she probably does, in which case this is still silly.
>
> Amy was refraining from bringing him home. It was only after Usha saw him by
> accident, and liked him, that she brought him home.
>
> Has Amy said anything about Carl's marital status? I'd think it was a bit
> odd if my daughter brought a chap home and told me that he was single.
Well, no, she hasn't. As you say, you kind of assume that someone
>>>
>>> Sebastian
>>
>>
>> Well, I don't think Amy would lie about Carl being married or not. I
>> think if she had known he was married she would just have refrained
>> from bringing him home to introduce him to Usha and Alan, but then I
>> suppose the question is does Usha know her well enough to know that. I
>> think she probably does, in which case this is still silly.
>
> Amy was refraining from bringing him home. It was only after Usha saw him by
> accident, and liked him, that she brought him home.
>
> Has Amy said anything about Carl's marital status? I'd think it was a bit
> odd if my daughter brought a chap home and told me that he was single.
presented as a steady boyfriend is actually single and available.
If Amy knows he's married, then she also knows that his weekly visits to
his Granny are a fiction, which has passed on to her parents as evidence
of his good character.
I suppose it is just possible that Amy has her suspicions but is too
infatuated to confront Carl about them. That could explain why she was
coy about talking about Carl or introducing him to friends and family.
She could be ignoring the warning signals. But in that case, she'll be
needing help and support from Usha and Alan, the sooner the better.
Usha's silence is just colluding in the lie.
badriya
May 1, 2012, 4:44:55 AM5/1/12
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been told by Annabelle, except now she's told Ruth and once one person
knows it is not safe.
--
Vicky
Serena Blanchflower
May 1, 2012, 5:31:10 AM5/1/12
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know that good never comes of keeping something from your nearest and
dearest, even in (or even especially if) it's for their own peace of mind.
--
Cheers, Serena
Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as gods. Cats have never
forgotten this. (Anon)
Serena Blanchflower
May 1, 2012, 5:37:57 AM5/1/12
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heard this disquieting information and wanted to give Carl the chance
to set the record straight. If he couldn't, that would be time enough
to make it clear that, if he didn't tell Amy, she would. Of course,
if he denied it, it would still be entirely reasonable for her to make
enquiries to either confirm or deny what Annabelle had told her.
I can't remember, off hand, exactly what Annabelle said about Carl and
whether it was clear that she knew him, as well as Rochelle,
personally. I think there is at least a possibility that she actually
said (or meant) something like "that must be her husband". Maybe
she's never met Rochelle's husband but just knows he's a handsome West
Indian chap and she jumped to unwarranted conclusions.
--
Cheers, Serena
You will be better advised to watch what we do instead of what we say.
(A.A.Milne)
carolet
May 1, 2012, 5:40:52 AM5/1/12
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Marjorie wrote:
> On 01/05/2012 08:26, carolet wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Now that we've heard Usha talk to Ruth, the whole thing is looking
>>>> a bit different. Usha must have been wanting to tell Alan for a
>>>> while (as we heard her start "Alan ...") but then changed her
>>>> mind. Now she has a very specific reason to talk to Amy first. Are
>>>> the SWs absolved this once?
>>
>> I don't know about absolved, but I'm prepared to give them the
>> benefit of the doubt for the moment. Usha does need to do something
>> soon though, or that moment will pass.
>
> Well, she's told Ruth but that's about the least helpful thing she
> could do. The secret is now no longer a secret, and she needs to get
> a move on before it bounces around the village and comes back to Alan
> or Amy. (Ruth-David-Brian-Alice...?)
Yes, talking to Ruth wasn't really a terribly good idea, but (given that
> On 01/05/2012 08:26, carolet wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Now that we've heard Usha talk to Ruth, the whole thing is looking
>>>> a bit different. Usha must have been wanting to tell Alan for a
>>>> while (as we heard her start "Alan ...") but then changed her
>>>> mind. Now she has a very specific reason to talk to Amy first. Are
>>>> the SWs absolved this once?
>>
>> I don't know about absolved, but I'm prepared to give them the
>> benefit of the doubt for the moment. Usha does need to do something
>> soon though, or that moment will pass.
>
> Well, she's told Ruth but that's about the least helpful thing she
> could do. The secret is now no longer a secret, and she needs to get
> a move on before it bounces around the village and comes back to Alan
> or Amy. (Ruth-David-Brian-Alice...?)
this is not AE where thoughs can be audible) how do we learn what people are
thinking unless they do confide in somebody?
>>
>>>>
>>>> Sebastian
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, I don't think Amy would lie about Carl being married or not. I
>>> think if she had known he was married she would just have refrained
>>> from bringing him home to introduce him to Usha and Alan, but then I
>>> suppose the question is does Usha know her well enough to know
>>> that. I think she probably does, in which case this is still silly.
>>
>> Amy was refraining from bringing him home. It was only after Usha
>> saw him by accident, and liked him, that she brought him home.
>>
>> Has Amy said anything about Carl's marital status? I'd think it was
>> a bit odd if my daughter brought a chap home and told me that he was
>> single.
>
> Well, no, she hasn't. As you say, you kind of assume that someone
> presented as a steady boyfriend is actually single and available.
>
> If Amy knows he's married, then she also knows that his weekly visits
> to his Granny are a fiction, which has passed on to her parents as
> evidence of his good character.
>
> I suppose it is just possible that Amy has her suspicions but is too
> infatuated to confront Carl about them. That could explain why she was
> coy about talking about Carl or introducing him to friends and family.
> She could be ignoring the warning signals. But in that case, she'll be
> needing help and support from Usha and Alan, the sooner the better.
> Usha's silence is just colluding in the lie.
that's one of the things that she likes about Carl. I don't believe that she
would talk about it like that if she was really suspicious of his reasons
for disappearing at weekends.
I know her shifts might make it difficult, but won't she'd expect to be
invited to North Borsetshire one of these weekends, even if she isn't
introduced to Granny.
--
CaroleT
Serena Blanchflower
May 1, 2012, 5:41:34 AM5/1/12
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granny may be genuine and a large part of his home life, so Amy
wouldn't necessarily be lying about that. It would, however call into
question her oft repeated comment that the importance Carl places on
his family is one of the things she loves about him. Might he have
children, as well as a wife and granny, and he's told Amy that they
are the reason he can't leave a loveless marriage?
--
Cheers, Serena
"It is not the mountain we conquer but ourselves." - Sir Edmund Hillary
the Omrud
May 1, 2012, 5:43:20 AM5/1/12
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Aberdeen for the weekends.
--
David
Sebastian Lisken
May 1, 2012, 5:46:31 AM5/1/12
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Marjorie <dontuseth...@springequinox.co.uk> wrote:
> As you say, you kind of assume that someone
> presented as a steady boyfriend is actually single and available.
Or, rather, has just stopped being single and available. :-)
> As you say, you kind of assume that someone
> presented as a steady boyfriend is actually single and available.
(More superfluous nitpicking: at least under the assumption that
"meeting the parents" is mostly regarded as a serious step and will
therefore be dared only after the relationship has become serious
itself. Of course several alternative scenarios are available.
This is fast turning into one of those advisories found at the end
of pharmaceutical advertisements, so I'll stop now.)
Sebastian
Robin Fairbairns
May 1, 2012, 6:09:19 AM5/1/12
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diversion from the excitement of adam's situation.
tbmg
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge
sorry about all this posting. i'll go back to sleep in a bit.
john ashby
May 1, 2012, 6:30:55 AM5/1/12
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ever listens to the Archers?
john
Jenny M Benson
May 1, 2012, 7:18:02 AM5/1/12
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On 01/05/2012 11:30, john ashby wrote:
> She may have lived there, but have you noticed that nobody in Ambridge
> ever listens to the Archers?
I always think soaps and similar would be greatly enhanced if the
> She may have lived there, but have you noticed that nobody in Ambridge
> ever listens to the Archers?
characters from one interacted with those from another. For example, a
resident of Ambridge could go to London and go into the Queen Vic for a
drink.
Linda Snell did once go to a Dame Edna Everage Show, of course.
Wouldn't it be fun, too, if Elizabeth went to see Graham Seed in "Yes,
Prime Minister"? She could get all upset because he reminded her so
much of her late husband.
--
Jenny M Benson
Serena Blanchflower
May 1, 2012, 7:46:33 AM5/1/12
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he's weekly commuting from the family home in North Borsetshire. Just
how long is Borsetshire meant to be? Given that that part of the
country is pretty well supplied with motorways, it's hard to see why
he would need to weekly commute to Felpersham from anywhere in the county.
--
Cheers, Serena
Nothing in life is to be feared. It is only to be understood (Marie
Curie)
Dumrat
May 1, 2012, 7:58:48 AM5/1/12
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Maybe you have to travel across another couple of counties to get
to North Borsetshire, IYSWIM?
EllTee
May 1, 2012, 8:15:44 AM5/1/12
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In article <nPKdncG8II4QCgLS...@brightview.co.uk>,
I don't know about "rights" when it comes to values and ethics but I
think it wise of Usha to consider giving Amy the chance to tell her
Father herself; this is assuming Amy does know he is married. This
would explain her 'waiting for the right moment' to introduce them.
--
Btms
think it wise of Usha to consider giving Amy the chance to tell her
Father herself; this is assuming Amy does know he is married. This
would explain her 'waiting for the right moment' to introduce them.
--
Btms
EllTee
May 1, 2012, 8:18:51 AM5/1/12
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In article <jno5gr$ugl$1...@dont-email.me>, Dumrat <duu...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Its not quite the same I know - but I know things about my children
that they don't know I know. I take the attitude that if they are happy
for me to know whatever it is they will tell me, if they don't want me
to know, they won't tell me and if it is just something they view as
unimportant than I should leave it there*.
*The things I have in mind are not, I think, unimportant but are their
business not mine.
--
Btms
wrote:
that they don't know I know. I take the attitude that if they are happy
for me to know whatever it is they will tell me, if they don't want me
to know, they won't tell me and if it is just something they view as
unimportant than I should leave it there*.
*The things I have in mind are not, I think, unimportant but are their
business not mine.
--
Btms
EllTee
May 1, 2012, 8:27:45 AM5/1/12
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In article <a09v39...@mid.individual.net>,
istr that on one occasion the EastEnders music was heard? Anyone?
--
Btms
--
Btms
the Omrud
May 1, 2012, 9:02:20 AM5/1/12
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On 01/05/2012 12:58, Dumrat wrote:
> Serena Blanchflower wrote:
>> * the Omrud wrote, On 01/05/2012 10:43:
>>> On 01/05/2012 10:40, carolet wrote:
>>>
>>>> I know her shifts might make it difficult, but won't she'd expect to be
>>>> invited to North Borsetshire one of these weekends, even if she isn't
>>>> introduced to Granny.
>>>
>>> And how far can it be to North Borsetshire? It's not like he's off to
>>> Aberdeen for the weekends.
>>
>> But that's also peculiar if, as we're clearly supposed to believe,
>> he's weekly commuting from the family home in North Borsetshire. Just
>> how long is Borsetshire meant to be? Given that that part of the
>> country is pretty well supplied with motorways, it's hard to see why
>> he would need to weekly commute to Felpersham from anywhere in the
>> county.
>
> I can't remember, if I ever knew, how they met in the first place?
Amy was the midwife who delivered his youngest child?
> Serena Blanchflower wrote:
>> * the Omrud wrote, On 01/05/2012 10:43:
>>> On 01/05/2012 10:40, carolet wrote:
>>>
>>>> I know her shifts might make it difficult, but won't she'd expect to be
>>>> invited to North Borsetshire one of these weekends, even if she isn't
>>>> introduced to Granny.
>>>
>>> And how far can it be to North Borsetshire? It's not like he's off to
>>> Aberdeen for the weekends.
>>
>> But that's also peculiar if, as we're clearly supposed to believe,
>> he's weekly commuting from the family home in North Borsetshire. Just
>> how long is Borsetshire meant to be? Given that that part of the
>> country is pretty well supplied with motorways, it's hard to see why
>> he would need to weekly commute to Felpersham from anywhere in the
>> county.
>
> I can't remember, if I ever knew, how they met in the first place?
> Maybe you have to travel across another couple of counties to get
> to North Borsetshire, IYSWIM?
--
David
LFS
May 1, 2012, 10:50:48 AM5/1/12
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was made by Grundy TV.
--
Laura
(emulate St. George for email)
LFS
May 1, 2012, 10:59:44 AM5/1/12
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On 01/05/2012 12:18, Jenny M Benson wrote:
> On 01/05/2012 11:30, john ashby wrote:
>> She may have lived there, but have you noticed that nobody in Ambridge
>> ever listens to the Archers?
>
> I always think soaps and similar would be greatly enhanced if the
> characters from one interacted with those from another. For example, a
> resident of Ambridge could go to London and go into the Queen Vic for a
> drink.
I would find it immensely confusing. I already have enough difficulty in
> On 01/05/2012 11:30, john ashby wrote:
>> She may have lived there, but have you noticed that nobody in Ambridge
>> ever listens to the Archers?
>
> I always think soaps and similar would be greatly enhanced if the
> characters from one interacted with those from another. For example, a
> resident of Ambridge could go to London and go into the Queen Vic for a
> drink.
remembering who is in Corrie and who is in EE. Not that it matters in
the slightest but I tend to be in a mildly demented state by the evening
of most days and I could do without further confusion.
Occasionally Corrie comes up with lunacy of the first water: the recent
sight of Norris, Rita, Mary and Tyrone singing "Bohemian Rhapsody",
posed and lit just like Queen, was inspired and unforgettably funny.
vk
May 1, 2012, 11:24:45 AM5/1/12
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Marjorie
May 1, 2012, 11:34:18 AM5/1/12
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understood by us now as "seeing my wife every weekend". It sounds like a
convenient alibi for not being able to see Amy regularly at wekends.
Marjorie
May 1, 2012, 11:39:24 AM5/1/12
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have not told even my husband because they are things I found out by
accident. But this is a bit different: Usha has not made a rational
decision that it's best to keep this confidential - she knows that it
will all come out eventually and then she'll have to pretend she didn't
know, or upset Alan (and possibly Amy) by admitting that she did.
Marjorie
May 1, 2012, 11:47:33 AM5/1/12
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doesn't know, she deserves to find out as soon as possible, before other
complications arise (wife finds out and confronts her; Carl starts doing
a "Jude", letting her down and changing plans; Amy sees Carl out
socialising with his wife and feels humiliated; Amy gets pregnant; etc).
As anotherrat has remarked, the best thing to do would be for Usha to
speak with Carl first. This would eliminate any possibility of a
misunderstanding, and would probably also reveal whether Amy knows or not.
Marjorie
May 1, 2012, 11:49:49 AM5/1/12
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other qualification. It sounded as if she'd seen the couple together before.
carolet
May 1, 2012, 12:45:27 PM5/1/12
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a bit of a coincidence(*) if the chap standing next to Rochelle, that
Annabelle assumed to be her husband, was also called Carl.
(*) But this is TA, so that makes no difference whatsoever.
--
CaroleT
carolet
May 1, 2012, 12:52:24 PM5/1/12
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that Mark, for one, used to commute there for a while.
--
CaroleT
a l l y
May 1, 2012, 1:17:30 PM5/1/12
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"carolet" <chez_c...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:EZSdnQxtuvk_MgLS...@bt.com...
visit her as often as he claims. Could be tricky taking Amy to visit her,
though, unless the old dear is suffering from Alzheimer's and doesn't
remember Carl's wife.
ally
a l l y
May 1, 2012, 1:24:03 PM5/1/12
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"carolet" <chez_c...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:naWdnQY-DY24jj3S...@bt.com...
(unless it's Bert).
ally
Sam Plusnet
May 1, 2012, 2:12:37 PM5/1/12
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In article <uaRnr.37813$ev1....@fx13.am4>, usenet...@gmail.com
says...
I thought Borchester had been twinned with Chile .
--
Sam
says...
--
Sam
Rosalind Mitchell
May 1, 2012, 5:08:12 PM5/1/12
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On 2012-05-01, Marjorie <dontuseth...@springequinox.co.uk> wrote:
> I was guessing that the "seeing Granny every weekend" was actually to be
> understood by us now as "seeing my wife every weekend". It sounds like a
> convenient alibi for not being able to see Amy regularly at wekends.
Now you've got me wondering if there isn't bigamy involved here; a whole
> I was guessing that the "seeing Granny every weekend" was actually to be
> understood by us now as "seeing my wife every weekend". It sounds like a
> convenient alibi for not being able to see Amy regularly at wekends.
network of wives being given the runaraound.
Roskj
the Omrud
May 1, 2012, 5:25:55 PM5/1/12
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--
David
john ashby
May 1, 2012, 5:30:59 PM5/1/12
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john
the Omrud
May 1, 2012, 5:32:00 PM5/1/12
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On 01/05/2012 22:08, Rosalind Mitchell wrote:
--
David
the Omrud
May 1, 2012, 5:33:34 PM5/1/12
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--
David
J. P. Gilliver (John)
May 1, 2012, 5:37:50 PM5/1/12
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In message <a0abi8...@mid.individual.net>, LFS
[]
after cash as usual.
ISTR reading that the letter had really been sent.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
You can think I'm wrong, but that's no reason to stop thinking. - Dr. Gregory
House (TV character), quoted in Radio Times 1-7/3/2008
[]
>> istr that on one occasion the EastEnders music was heard? Anyone?
>
>I think it was "Neighbours". Clarrie was a fan and pointed out that it
>was made by Grundy TV.
>
And Joe wrote to them, to see if there was any connection, presumably
>
>I think it was "Neighbours". Clarrie was a fan and pointed out that it
>was made by Grundy TV.
>
after cash as usual.
ISTR reading that the letter had really been sent.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
You can think I'm wrong, but that's no reason to stop thinking. - Dr. Gregory
House (TV character), quoted in Radio Times 1-7/3/2008
Rosalind Mitchell
May 1, 2012, 5:45:11 PM5/1/12
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Roskj
Nick Odell
May 1, 2012, 7:02:23 PM5/1/12
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On Tue, 01 May 2012 12:18:02 +0100, Jenny M Benson
<nemo...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>I always think soaps and similar would be greatly enhanced if the
>characters from one interacted with those from another. For example, a
>resident of Ambridge could go to London and go into the Queen Vic for a
>drink.
>
You mean like the TV series "Cheers" and "Frasier"? Mugging up on
<nemo...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>I always think soaps and similar would be greatly enhanced if the
>characters from one interacted with those from another. For example, a
>resident of Ambridge could go to London and go into the Queen Vic for a
>drink.
>
Cheers I see that some of the characters appeared in "St Elsewhere"
too.
Nick
carolet
May 1, 2012, 7:10:29 PM5/1/12
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suspect a wife before we had any real evidence. I do believe that there is a
granny as well, and that she is pleased that he has met someone descended
from her fellow villagers. But maybe I'm as gullible as Amy.
--
CaroleT
Ralph B
May 2, 2012, 1:03:44 AM5/2/12
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i.e. whilst delivering his baby? (or at least his wife's baby?) Before we
say "eww!" I have heard that "ladies of negotiable virtue" are known to
frequent the waiting rooms of maternity hospitals to service long
unserviced hubbies. Of course, if Carl had managed to pull Amy whilst in
the same room as his wife giving birth that would need a certain ...
audacity (or spunk? snigger.) It would certainly extend the definition of
an "open marriage".
Ralph B
May 2, 2012, 1:14:39 AM5/2/12
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the Omrud <usenet...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 01/05/2012 12:58, Dumrat wrote:
>> Serena Blanchflower wrote:
>>> * the Omrud wrote, On 01/05/2012 10:43:
>>>> On 01/05/2012 10:40, carolet wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I know her shifts might make it difficult, but won't she'd expect to be
>>>>> invited to North Borsetshire one of these weekends, even if she isn't
>>>>> introduced to Granny.
>>>>
>>>> And how far can it be to North Borsetshire? It's not like he's off to
>>>> Aberdeen for the weekends.
>>>
>>> But that's also peculiar if, as we're clearly supposed to believe,
>>> he's weekly commuting from the family home in North Borsetshire. Just
>>> how long is Borsetshire meant to be? Given that that part of the
>>> country is pretty well supplied with motorways, it's hard to see why
>>> he would need to weekly commute to Felpersham from anywhere in the
>>> county.
>>
>> I can't remember, if I ever knew, how they met in the first place?
>
> Amy was the midwife who delivered his youngest child?
Ah, IANAOU.
> On 01/05/2012 12:58, Dumrat wrote:
>> Serena Blanchflower wrote:
>>> * the Omrud wrote, On 01/05/2012 10:43:
>>>> On 01/05/2012 10:40, carolet wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I know her shifts might make it difficult, but won't she'd expect to be
>>>>> invited to North Borsetshire one of these weekends, even if she isn't
>>>>> introduced to Granny.
>>>>
>>>> And how far can it be to North Borsetshire? It's not like he's off to
>>>> Aberdeen for the weekends.
>>>
>>> But that's also peculiar if, as we're clearly supposed to believe,
>>> he's weekly commuting from the family home in North Borsetshire. Just
>>> how long is Borsetshire meant to be? Given that that part of the
>>> country is pretty well supplied with motorways, it's hard to see why
>>> he would need to weekly commute to Felpersham from anywhere in the
>>> county.
>>
>> I can't remember, if I ever knew, how they met in the first place?
>
> Amy was the midwife who delivered his youngest child?
Chris J Dixon
May 2, 2012, 2:10:57 AM5/2/12
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Marjorie
May 2, 2012, 4:11:28 AM5/2/12
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Before we
> say "eww!" I have heard that "ladies of negotiable virtue" are known to
> frequent the waiting rooms of maternity hospitals to service long
> unserviced hubbies.
hospital that looked remotely like someone on the game. Do they dress up
in nurses' uniforms for added excitement?
Jenny M Benson
May 2, 2012, 5:15:14 AM5/2/12
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I like the way American series do that.
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Robin Fairbairns
May 2, 2012, 6:26:36 AM5/2/12
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Robin Fairbairns
May 2, 2012, 6:35:39 AM5/2/12
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Ralph B <surprisingly.this...@spampot.com> writes:
> Have we considered the possibility that Amy was at work when she met Carl?
> i.e. whilst delivering his baby? (or at least his wife's baby?) [...]
> Have we considered the possibility that Amy was at work when she met Carl?
when our son was delivered at home, i thought the midwife was an
indubitably lovely lady. i only saw her one other time.
(even when i was single, it used to take me several months to approach a
potential girlfriend[*]. not surprisingly, i didn't accrue many.)
[*] lff was an exception. for some reason she was keen on me...
Jenny M Benson
May 2, 2012, 10:21:12 AM5/2/12
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On 02/05/2012 11:35, Robin Fairbairns wrote:
> (even when i was single, it used to take me several months to approach a
> potential girlfriend[*]. not surprisingly, i didn't accrue many.)
>
> [*] lff was an exception. for some reason she was keen on me...
Entirely understandable.
> (even when i was single, it used to take me several months to approach a
> potential girlfriend[*]. not surprisingly, i didn't accrue many.)
>
> [*] lff was an exception. for some reason she was keen on me...
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Jim Easterbrook
May 2, 2012, 12:38:51 PM5/2/12
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Sam Plusnet
May 2, 2012, 2:09:37 PM5/2/12
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In article <huj1q7p6sd1acvll0...@4ax.com>,
ch...@cdixon.me.uk says...
--
Sam
ch...@cdixon.me.uk says...
>
> john ashby wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 2012-05-01 at 22:25 +0100, the Omrud wrote:
>
> >> Blimey, can you network wives? What's the protocol?
> >
> >Don't know about the protocol, but the wiring would be Twisted Pair.
>
> :-)
>
Screamed Twisted Pair actually.
> john ashby wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 2012-05-01 at 22:25 +0100, the Omrud wrote:
>
> >> Blimey, can you network wives? What's the protocol?
> >
> >Don't know about the protocol, but the wiring would be Twisted Pair.
>
> :-)
>
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BrritSki
May 2, 2012, 2:30:07 PM5/2/12
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Sebastian Lisken
May 2, 2012, 3:00:02 PM5/2/12
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Sebastian
Sam Plusnet
May 2, 2012, 3:20:50 PM5/2/12
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In article <a0dehi...@mid.dfncis.de>, lis...@math.Uni-Bielefeld-
deletethis.de says...
Or simply getting loaded.
--
Sam
deletethis.de says...
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Nick Odell
May 2, 2012, 6:38:18 PM5/2/12
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On Wed, 02 May 2012 11:35:39 +0100, Robin Fairbairns
<rf...@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>when our son was delivered at home,
Bloimey! That Occado's got a lot to answer for.
<rf...@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>when our son was delivered at home,
Nick
Martin Clark
May 3, 2012, 3:16:53 AM5/3/12
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On 01/05/2012 12:46, Serena Blanchflower wrote:
> But that's also peculiar if, as we're clearly supposed to believe, he's
> weekly commuting from the family home in North Borsetshire. Just how
> long is Borsetshire meant to be?
About 13 minutes a day?
> But that's also peculiar if, as we're clearly supposed to believe, he's
> weekly commuting from the family home in North Borsetshire. Just how
> long is Borsetshire meant to be?
--
Martin
LFS
May 3, 2012, 3:31:15 AM5/3/12
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Nick Leverton
May 3, 2012, 3:57:03 AM5/3/12
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In article <9pd3q7dmot4p9agl1...@4ax.com>,
This raises all sorts of questions about the term "delivery slot".
Nick
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Martin Clark
May 3, 2012, 4:14:07 AM5/3/12
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Rosalind Mitchell
May 3, 2012, 5:01:13 AM5/3/12
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That's what I believed for quite a while after I saw a baby being
weighed in the scales at the local pharmacy, which I assume doubled as a
clinic at the time. After all, when you bought a quarter of pear drops
from the sweetie shop next door they were weighed in the scales too.
Roskj
BrritSki
May 3, 2012, 5:43:54 AM5/3/12
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On 02/05/2012 21:20, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> In article<a0dehi...@mid.dfncis.de>, lis...@math.Uni-Bielefeld-
Presumably an acoustic coupler is a noisy orgasm...
> In article<a0dehi...@mid.dfncis.de>, lis...@math.Uni-Bielefeld-
Jo Lonergan
May 3, 2012, 6:54:27 AM5/3/12
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>Ralph B <surprisingly.this...@spampot.com> writes:
>
>> Have we considered the possibility that Amy was at work when she met Carl?
>> i.e. whilst delivering his baby? (or at least his wife's baby?) [...]
>
>when our son was delivered at home, i thought the midwife was an
>indubitably lovely lady. i only saw her one other time.
>
>(even when i was single, it used to take me several months to approach a
>potential girlfriend[*]. not surprisingly, i didn't accrue many.)
>
>[*] lff was an exception. for some reason she was keen on me...
I thought it took you two years and years to get together, OAM?
>
>> Have we considered the possibility that Amy was at work when she met Carl?
>> i.e. whilst delivering his baby? (or at least his wife's baby?) [...]
>
>when our son was delivered at home, i thought the midwife was an
>indubitably lovely lady. i only saw her one other time.
>
>(even when i was single, it used to take me several months to approach a
>potential girlfriend[*]. not surprisingly, i didn't accrue many.)
>
>[*] lff was an exception. for some reason she was keen on me...
--
Jo
badriya
May 3, 2012, 8:22:45 AM5/3/12
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On Thu, 3 May 2012 07:57:03 +0000 (UTC), Nick Leverton
<ni...@leverton.org> wrote:
>In article <9pd3q7dmot4p9agl1...@4ax.com>,
>Nick Odell <gurzhfvp...@ntlworld.com.invalid> wrote:
>>On Wed, 02 May 2012 11:35:39 +0100, Robin Fairbairns
>><rf...@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>when our son was delivered at home,
>>
>>Bloimey! That Occado's got a lot to answer for.
>
>This raises all sorts of questions about the term "delivery slot".
>
>Nick
The Nicks made oi laugh a lot. Thanks.
<ni...@leverton.org> wrote:
>In article <9pd3q7dmot4p9agl1...@4ax.com>,
>Nick Odell <gurzhfvp...@ntlworld.com.invalid> wrote:
>>On Wed, 02 May 2012 11:35:39 +0100, Robin Fairbairns
>><rf...@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>when our son was delivered at home,
>>
>>Bloimey! That Occado's got a lot to answer for.
>
>This raises all sorts of questions about the term "delivery slot".
>
>Nick
It has not been a jolly week here, one way and another.
With a Nick either side for company on the posting stats I shall be
snug and nicely entertained.
--
Vicky
Robin Fairbairns
May 3, 2012, 10:32:35 AM5/3/12
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for a while in the 60s, though. my only ever prize in a music festival
was with her accompanying me in the sonata class.
later that day, mr kennedy became late.
Dr Nick
May 3, 2012, 1:52:08 PM5/3/12
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Sorry, wrong punchline.
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Jo Lonergan
May 3, 2012, 3:13:23 PM5/3/12
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On Thu, 03 May 2012 15:32:35 +0100, Robin Fairbairns <rf...@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>Jo Lonergan <jolon...@hotmail.com> writes:
>
>> On Wed, 02 May 2012 11:35:39 +0100, Robin Fairbairns
>> <rf...@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>[*] lff was an exception. for some reason she was keen on me...
>>
>> I thought it took you two years and years to get together, OAM?
>
>getting the point of a proposal of marriage, yes. we _were_ together
>for a while in the 60s, though. my only ever prize in a music festival
>was with her accompanying me in the sonata class.
>
Can you remember what the piece was?
>Jo Lonergan <jolon...@hotmail.com> writes:
>
>> On Wed, 02 May 2012 11:35:39 +0100, Robin Fairbairns
>> <rf...@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>[*] lff was an exception. for some reason she was keen on me...
>>
>> I thought it took you two years and years to get together, OAM?
>
>getting the point of a proposal of marriage, yes. we _were_ together
>for a while in the 60s, though. my only ever prize in a music festival
>was with her accompanying me in the sonata class.
>
>later that day, mr kennedy became late.
weekend!
--
Jo
Nick Odell
May 3, 2012, 5:46:16 PM5/3/12
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exactly where they were and what they were doing when they saw the
first episode of Doctor Who.
What I didn't remember was anything much about the episode itself so
when, a few months ago I found it on that interweb thingy I just had
to watch it.
Oh dear.
2012 me can't understand how 1963 me ever became a fan on the basis of
that evidence.
Nick
J. P. Gilliver (John)
May 3, 2012, 7:46:12 PM5/3/12
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In message <jrt4q7hcjnktecvm3...@4ax.com>, badriya
this refers to a different kind of "slot", I must "ask the midwife".
>With a Nick either side for company on the posting stats I shall be
>snug and nicely entertained.
(-:
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<badr...@gmail.com> writes:
>On Thu, 3 May 2012 07:57:03 +0000 (UTC), Nick Leverton
><ni...@leverton.org> wrote:
>
>>In article <9pd3q7dmot4p9agl1...@4ax.com>,
>>Nick Odell <gurzhfvp...@ntlworld.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>On Wed, 02 May 2012 11:35:39 +0100, Robin Fairbairns
>>><rf...@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>when our son was delivered at home,
>>>
>>>Bloimey! That Occado's got a lot to answer for.
>>
>>This raises all sorts of questions about the term "delivery slot".
>>
>>Nick
>
>
>The Nicks made oi laugh a lot. Thanks.
I have visions of unusual things coming through the letterbox - or, if
>On Thu, 3 May 2012 07:57:03 +0000 (UTC), Nick Leverton
><ni...@leverton.org> wrote:
>
>>In article <9pd3q7dmot4p9agl1...@4ax.com>,
>>Nick Odell <gurzhfvp...@ntlworld.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>On Wed, 02 May 2012 11:35:39 +0100, Robin Fairbairns
>>><rf...@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>when our son was delivered at home,
>>>
>>>Bloimey! That Occado's got a lot to answer for.
>>
>>This raises all sorts of questions about the term "delivery slot".
>>
>>Nick
>
>
>The Nicks made oi laugh a lot. Thanks.
this refers to a different kind of "slot", I must "ask the midwife".
>
>It has not been a jolly week here, one way and another.
Hope it's improved for you.
>It has not been a jolly week here, one way and another.
>With a Nick either side for company on the posting stats I shall be
>snug and nicely entertained.
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J. P. Gilliver (John)
May 3, 2012, 7:53:15 PM5/3/12
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In message <3tu5q71ts8d2m627b...@4ax.com>, Nick Odell
today's standards, but I think the underlying concepts were sufficiently
unusual - unearthly! - that it appealed to (some of) us, probably in
ways we didn't understand at the time.
<gurzhfvp...@ntlworld.com.invalid> writes:
>On Thu, 03 May 2012 21:13:23 +0200, Jo Lonergan
><jolon...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 03 May 2012 15:32:35 +0100, Robin Fairbairns
>><rf...@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
[]
>On Thu, 03 May 2012 21:13:23 +0200, Jo Lonergan
><jolon...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 03 May 2012 15:32:35 +0100, Robin Fairbairns
>><rf...@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>later that day, mr kennedy became late.
>>
>>And the next day was the first ever episode of Dr Who! What a significant
>>weekend!
>
>Yes. I think that everybody who was alive at the time remembers
>exactly where they were and what they were doing when they saw the
>first episode of Doctor Who.
>
>What I didn't remember was anything much about the episode itself so
>when, a few months ago I found it on that interweb thingy I just had
>to watch it.
>
>Oh dear.
>
>2012 me can't understand how 1963 me ever became a fan on the basis of
>that evidence.
>
>Nick
The technical quality and the script and acting are all creaky by
>>
>>And the next day was the first ever episode of Dr Who! What a significant
>>weekend!
>
>Yes. I think that everybody who was alive at the time remembers
>exactly where they were and what they were doing when they saw the
>first episode of Doctor Who.
>
>What I didn't remember was anything much about the episode itself so
>when, a few months ago I found it on that interweb thingy I just had
>to watch it.
>
>Oh dear.
>
>2012 me can't understand how 1963 me ever became a fan on the basis of
>that evidence.
>
>Nick
today's standards, but I think the underlying concepts were sufficiently
unusual - unearthly! - that it appealed to (some of) us, probably in
ways we didn't understand at the time.
Dr Nick
May 4, 2012, 1:52:36 AM5/4/12
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Nick Odell <gurzhfvp...@ntlworld.com.invalid> writes:
> On Thu, 03 May 2012 21:13:23 +0200, Jo Lonergan
> <jolon...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 03 May 2012 15:32:35 +0100, Robin Fairbairns <rf...@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>Jo Lonergan <jolon...@hotmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 02 May 2012 11:35:39 +0100, Robin Fairbairns
>>>> <rf...@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>[*] lff was an exception. for some reason she was keen on me...
>>>>
>>>> I thought it took you two years and years to get together, OAM?
>>>
>>>getting the point of a proposal of marriage, yes. we _were_ together
>>>for a while in the 60s, though. my only ever prize in a music festival
>>>was with her accompanying me in the sonata class.
>>>
>>Can you remember what the piece was?
>>
>>>later that day, mr kennedy became late.
>>
>>And the next day was the first ever episode of Dr Who! What a significant
>>weekend!
>
> Yes. I think that everybody who was alive at the time remembers
> exactly where they were and what they were doing when they saw the
> first episode of Doctor Who.
I was alive in 1963 and don't remember any of it.
> On Thu, 03 May 2012 21:13:23 +0200, Jo Lonergan
> <jolon...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 03 May 2012 15:32:35 +0100, Robin Fairbairns <rf...@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>Jo Lonergan <jolon...@hotmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 02 May 2012 11:35:39 +0100, Robin Fairbairns
>>>> <rf...@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>[*] lff was an exception. for some reason she was keen on me...
>>>>
>>>> I thought it took you two years and years to get together, OAM?
>>>
>>>getting the point of a proposal of marriage, yes. we _were_ together
>>>for a while in the 60s, though. my only ever prize in a music festival
>>>was with her accompanying me in the sonata class.
>>>
>>Can you remember what the piece was?
>>
>>>later that day, mr kennedy became late.
>>
>>And the next day was the first ever episode of Dr Who! What a significant
>>weekend!
>
> Yes. I think that everybody who was alive at the time remembers
> exactly where they were and what they were doing when they saw the
> first episode of Doctor Who.
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