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Turk182

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Jan 11, 2010, 5:25:33 PM1/11/10
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On the famous occasion when Radio 1 ditched most of it's big names;
Simon Bates, DLT etc all left and station's audience plummeted. There
was a huge shift to commercial radio. None of the name were
immediately hired to Radio 2.

What you may not have known is that the BBC were instructed to injure
Radio 1; to decimate it’s listenership. This order came following
complaints to the then Tory government by Richard Branson. Commercial
radio was in the doldrums, and having launched Virgin Radio, Branson
could not make any headway, because at the time, there was too much
loyalty to the Radio 1 DJ's from their well established audience.

The BBC thoughtfully obliged and to make sure that Branson succeeded,
Radio 1 also ditched a lot of the popular music too and tended to go
for more off beat and minority interest bands. The DJ's who came in
didn't really sound like they had much radio experience, but that was
the idea.

Surprise, surprise; Branson’s Virgin Radio then took off and shares in
commercial radio boomed. Tory minister Michael Heseltine, completely
by coincidence, instructed his company Haymarket Publishing to sell
their commercial radio interests in Southern Radio, making Heseltine
and Haymarket Publishing several million pounds.

Today we see Terry Wogan leave the Breakfast Show on Radio 2 with a
fantastically huge and loyal audience. Radio 2 could have replaced
Wogan with a character, perhaps like a Stephen Fry (although that's
easier said than done - it's true), but they didn't. With respect to
Chris Evans, Wogan has been replaced with a squeaky and rather
lightweight frenetic jock - a move which effectively puts two fingers
up to Wogan's large and sophisticated audience. Evans delivers a
standard of presentation, already abundent on Radio 1.

It is my suspicion that the government has spoken once more, because
again, commercial radio is in trouble. All over the country
commercial radio stations are up for sale. Most are crippled and can
no longer afford to broadcast live programmes or news; everything is
being stripped down to basics and they all desperately looking to the
government for a rescue line.

By wiping out the Wogan audience in one foul swoop, the BBC seems to
have buckled under once more. It does not take an expert to forecast
that with a mere pop presenter, a series of gruesome trails on the
television, and a substantial abandonment of taste, that the message
will go out loud and clear. Wogan - get over it. If you don't like
it, clear off!

It's also interesting to learn that Evans has let it slip that he has
already been 'nudged' by the men in suits, to mollify and sweet talk
the country into thinking that everything in the garden is rosy. No
controversial statements please. There is an election coming and we
wouldn't want to upset anyone would we? Errr, we wouldn’t want to
get too popular would we now?

Turk182


jo...@jjdesigns.fsnet.co.uk

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Jan 11, 2010, 6:43:37 PM1/11/10
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No loss. Don't listen to it. The stuff is pap for the masses.
Commercial and Radio1 supplying the public's need for Jeremy Kyle
levels of inclusion and degeneracy. The remaining channels offering
elitism and grating cut-glass accents, servicing the mores of a group
of home county dilettantes and chatterers. (Wogan of course being -
the- honourable exception).
I've learnt to appreciate that many people actually like listening to
music but still cannot understood why these 'presenter' people have
taken such prominence.

the gods have made us mad

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Jan 11, 2010, 7:24:21 PM1/11/10
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"Turk182" <digital...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>>.....Wogan's large and sophisticated audience<<<


His, *what*??????

Whatever devotees of that terminally boring Irish windbag might, or might
not be - 'sophisticated', they ain't!!!

True Blue

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Jan 12, 2010, 2:27:22 AM1/12/10
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On 11 Jan, 22:25, Turk182 <digitalradi...@aol.com> wrote:
> On the famous occasion when Radio 1 ditched most of it's big names;
> Simon Bates, DLT etc all left and station's audience plummeted.  There
> was a huge shift to commercial radio.   None of the name were
> immediately hired to Radio 2.
>
> What you may not have known is that the BBC were instructed to injure
> Radio 1;  to decimate it’s listenership.  This order came following
> complaints to the then Tory government by Richard Branson.  Commercial
> radio was in the doldrums, and having launched Virgin Radio, Branson
> could not make any headway, because at the time, there was too much
> loyalty to the Radio 1 DJ's from their well established audience.
>
> The BBC thoughtfully obliged and to make sure that Branson succeeded,
> Radio 1 also ditched a lot of the popular music too and tended to go
> for more off beat and minority interest bands.  The DJ's who came in
> didn't really sound like they had much radio experience, but that was
> the idea.

Utter rubbish.

The dog from that film you saw

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Jan 12, 2010, 3:43:19 AM1/12/10
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"Turk182" <digital...@aol.com> wrote in message
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On the famous occasion when Radio 1 ditched most of it's big names;
Simon Bates, DLT etc all left and station's audience plummeted. There
was a huge shift to commercial radio. None of the name were
immediately hired to Radio 2.

What you may not have known is that the BBC were instructed to injure

Radio 1; to decimate it�s listenership. This order came following


complaints to the then Tory government by Richard Branson. Commercial
radio was in the doldrums, and having launched Virgin Radio, Branson
could not make any headway, because at the time, there was too much
loyalty to the Radio 1 DJ's from their well established audience.

and you have sort of proof of your theory?

--
Gareth.

that fly...... is your magic wand....
http://dsbdsb.mybrute.com
you fight better when you have a bear!

Big Les Wade

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Jan 12, 2010, 4:20:30 AM1/12/10
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jo...@jjdesigns.fsnet.co.uk posted

>I've learnt to appreciate that many people actually like listening to
>music but still cannot understood why these 'presenter' people have
>taken such prominence.

It is perfectly possible, indeed normal, to like both, just as one can
enjoy both Schumann and South Park, or both Rod Stewart and Shakespeare.
Chacun a son gout. I liked (some of) Terry Wogan's patter, and some of
the tracks he played; although it was annoying when he did both at the
same time.

What I can't stand on radio shows are (i) phone-ins (ii) long, sloppy
dedications (iii) celebrity interviews (iv) competitions (v) God.

--
Les
If by creating a police state we can save just one child, then it will all have
been worthwhile.

True Blue

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Jan 12, 2010, 5:00:03 AM1/12/10
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On 12 Jan, 08:43, "The dog from that film you saw"
<d...@removethisbitbtinternet.com> wrote:
> "Turk182" <digitalradi...@aol.com> wrote in message

>
> news:056b8341-8760-4b7b...@26g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...
> On the famous occasion when Radio 1 ditched most of it's big names;
> Simon Bates, DLT etc all left and station's audience plummeted.  There
> was a huge shift to commercial radio.   None of the name were
> immediately hired to Radio 2.
>
> What you may not have known is that the BBC were instructed to injure
> Radio 1;  to decimate it’s listenership.  This order came following

> complaints to the then Tory government by Richard Branson.  Commercial
> radio was in the doldrums, and having launched Virgin Radio, Branson
> could not make any headway, because at the time, there was too much
> loyalty to the Radio 1 DJ's from their well established audience.
>
> and you have sort of proof of your theory?


No. It is the most ridiculous theory.

Why I Like BT

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Jan 12, 2010, 5:28:43 AM1/12/10
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"Turk182" <digital...@aol.com> wrote in message
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" one foul swoop, "

The expression is "one fell swoop". At least now you can claim to have
learned something by posting utter drivel.

Ben Short

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Jan 12, 2010, 12:03:53 PM1/12/10
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"Why I Like BT" <a...@b.com> wrote in message
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LMAO Best laugh I have had all day, nice one!

Why I Like BT

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Jan 12, 2010, 12:14:07 PM1/12/10
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"Ben Short" <bsh...@supanet.com> wrote in message
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And now *I* can go home and say that I've achieved something ;)

Jack Taylor

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Jan 12, 2010, 4:08:15 PM1/12/10
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Agreed. At the time I was well above the R1 target audience age and I still,
to this day, think that Matthew Bannister was the saviour of R1 - not the
loud, tubby one. The revamp kept me listening for another ten years, albeit
towards the end switching between R1 and R2 - if the status quo had been
maintained then I'd have been listening elsewhere.


Joe Lee

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Jan 12, 2010, 4:42:27 PM1/12/10
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The dog from that film you saw wrote:
> "Turk182" <digital...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:056b8341-8760-4b7b...@26g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...
> On the famous occasion when Radio 1 ditched most of it's big names;
> Simon Bates, DLT etc all left and station's audience plummeted. There
> was a huge shift to commercial radio. None of the name were
> immediately hired to Radio 2.
>
> What you may not have known is that the BBC were instructed to injure
> Radio 1; to decimate it�s listenership. This order came following
> complaints to the then Tory government by Richard Branson. Commercial
> radio was in the doldrums, and having launched Virgin Radio, Branson
> could not make any headway, because at the time, there was too much
> loyalty to the Radio 1 DJ's from their well established audience.
>
>
>
>
>
> and you have sort of proof of your theory?

He seldom replies with explanation or substantiation of his utterances, the
majority of which appear to be as a result of his over-active imagination &
the remainer are simply his own obsessions (primmarily an anti-BBC bias &
misogyny).

--
Joe Lee

Turk182

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Jan 12, 2010, 5:07:08 PM1/12/10
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> maintained then I'd have been listening elsewhere.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Ah yes. The failed newsreader who was placed as the hatchet man; who
brought death, drugs, drink and violence and foul language to every
home in Britain via Radio 1; a decision that the BBC still rue today,
which is why Bannister was ripped away from the post as soon as the
scale of the disaster became clear. The whole debacle of course
handed millions to commercial radio - exactly as had been intended.

You have to remember that the Tory boys had their fingers in the pie
in numerous other ways - and there was nothing as valuable as pre-
information as to how an industry was about to turn. This was
fantastic inside information. It took the BBC years to recover an
audience for Radio 1, and you will notice how the endless smut, drugs
and drink talk and swearing introduced under Bannister, has now been
dealt with, as we now see appreciate that the station played a major
role in 'normalising' this behaviour to large numbers of young people
(albeit not as large as the years before Bannister was placed in
charge.

It's also interesting to see how Bannister, from bringing death to
Radio 1 via it's roadshows, has now bought death to Radio 4, as most
of his dull programmes seem to be about people who have just died.
That's about right for a very miserable fellow whose miserable,
envious face still haunts Radio 1's corridor of memories they'd rather
forget

Turk182

Phian

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Jan 12, 2010, 6:35:59 PM1/12/10
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"True Blue" <garyb...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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When I first read the post I thought it was a load of old tosh but didn't
answer as I am reluctant to feed trolls.
The Tories may not have been the BBC's greatest fans but at least they did
not destroy the Local Advisory Councils like the present party in power.


Neil

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Jan 13, 2010, 11:03:46 AM1/13/10
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On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:08:15 -0000, "Jack Taylor" <Ja...@Carney.co.uk>
wrote:

Agreed again. I have never heard such a total load of old bollocks.

My big worry is that Radio 1 will be hit by some twat worrying about
it competing with commercial stations. It competes and wins because it
is far better. You would never get that variety of new music on a
commercial station. Just listen to the 'play it safe', middle aged
housewife aimed SHIT that is commercial 'pop' radio today.

Have a look in Chris Evan's book where he makes the same point.

Dirk Bruere at NeoPax

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Jan 13, 2010, 12:06:13 PM1/13/10
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All shit compared to this:
http://www.wlup.com/other/stream/stream_WLUP.html

--
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show

Turk182

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Jan 13, 2010, 12:56:21 PM1/13/10
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On 12 Jan, 23:35, "Phian" <Ph...@ihatespam.europe.com> wrote:
> "True Blue" <garybagg...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> not destroy the Local Advisory Councils like the present party in power.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

"Farmer’s Weekly magazine recently asked Michael Heseltine, chairman
and founder of Haymarket Media Group"

http://www.haymarket.com/newsarticle.aspx?news=258


"At the same time he headed Haymarket’s investments in local
commercial radio and was instrumental in local radio station mergers
into a listed radio group that was subsequently sold to Capital Radio.
"

http://www.haymarket.com/management.aspx?company=8

Turk182

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