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BEIRNE R. (200928)

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Oct 25, 2001, 7:12:58 AM10/25/01
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Conversation: What is LLB and LLM ?
Subject: Re: What is LLB and LLM ?

On Sun, 21 Oct 2001 08:31:35 GMT, music...@hot.music.for.everyone
(John House) wrote:

>Just wondering, what is the full spelling for :
>L.L.B. and L.L.M ???
>Thanks and cheers !

LL.B
Legum Baccalaureus
Bachelor of Laws

LL.M
Legum Magister
Master of Laws.

nb--- Note there is NO "." betwen the L's

Stuart
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This may be a silly question to eveyone else, but why two 'L's?
I mean in LL.B, the full spelling in non-Latin the group have said, is
Bachelor of Laws. The L (subject) comes before the B (degree type) -
unlike as in BA: Bachelor of Arts - due to the latin link
Legum Baccalaureus being that way round. (i.e. not Baccalaureus Legum )
Which you have said translates as Law Bachelor or rather Bachelor of
Laws.

So... Legum (one L) Baccalaureus (one B). Why the second L in LL.B (or
LL.M)?
The degree is not Law, Law, Bachelor. Or Bachelor of Law, Laws!?

Thanks,

Richard B.
Email: res...@yahoo.com

Graham Wilson

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Oct 27, 2001, 7:16:41 AM10/27/01
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On Thu, 25 Oct 2001 12:12:58 +0100, "BEIRNE R. (200928)"
<200...@Swansea.ac.uk> wrote:


>
>This may be a silly question to eveyone else, but why two 'L's?
>I mean in LL.B, the full spelling in non-Latin the group have said, is
>Bachelor of Laws. The L (subject) comes before the B (degree type) -
>unlike as in BA: Bachelor of Arts - due to the latin link
>Legum Baccalaureus being that way round. (i.e. not Baccalaureus Legum )
>Which you have said translates as Law Bachelor or rather Bachelor of
>Laws.

These days, it should be LB or LM to indicate bachelor of law or
master of law.

It was "laws" because law students used to study ecclesiastical law
and common law. Today, law students do not generally study
ecclesiastical law.

Graham
Gra...@dirconabc.co.uk
(to reply remove abc from domain name)

Claire Forster

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Oct 27, 2001, 11:20:41 AM10/27/01
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So what is the literal translation of LL.B? I graduate next month with mine,
and it would be good to impress my uni mates with what we've actually attained
no -one outside the law seems to even know LL.B is an actual degree! What does
the extra L stand for?

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Graham Wilson

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Oct 27, 2001, 1:13:52 PM10/27/01
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On Sat, 27 Oct 2001 15:20:41 +0000 (UTC), "Claire Forster"
<clairefo...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>So what is the literal translation of LL.B? I graduate next month with mine,
>and it would be good to impress my uni mates with what we've actually attained
>no -one outside the law seems to even know LL.B is an actual degree! What does
>the extra L stand for?

Someone once said to me that they thought LLB stood for a degree in
library studies.

Graham.

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