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Special Care
Feb 9, 2012, 7:43:45 AM2/9/12
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http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=517767
In the discussion at the above link it is correctly pointed out that
there is a media silence on John Humble, despite the fact that the
story of John Humble and his impending release was one of the most
newsworthy stories in England and had an international following too.
It says a lot about the way we are here in England, if there is no
demand for 'habeus corpus' in the case of the disappearance of John
Humble.
This is scary.
If John Humble can disappear in England, so can you.
In the discussion at the above link it is correctly pointed out that
there is a media silence on John Humble, despite the fact that the
story of John Humble and his impending release was one of the most
newsworthy stories in England and had an international following too.
It says a lot about the way we are here in England, if there is no
demand for 'habeus corpus' in the case of the disappearance of John
Humble.
This is scary.
If John Humble can disappear in England, so can you.
Special Care
Feb 10, 2012, 9:16:30 AM2/10/12
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The fact that nobody cares about the disappearance of John Humble
makes me very afraid.
England is a very scary country, a country where people can disappear
and nobody cares about it.
Where is Melanie Philipps, where is John Pilger, where is David Yallop
("the greatest investigative writer in the world)?
The answer is:
these people do the 'acceptable' stories, the ones that go down well
with their ruling group cronies.
But they wont touch the disappearance of John Humble because their
cronies in the ruling group have warned them off that FORBIDDEN
SUBJECT.
So even David Yallop, THE GREATEST INVESTIGATIVE WRITER IN THE WORLD,
will have nothing to do with the disappearance of John Humble.
makes me very afraid.
England is a very scary country, a country where people can disappear
and nobody cares about it.
Where is Melanie Philipps, where is John Pilger, where is David Yallop
("the greatest investigative writer in the world)?
The answer is:
these people do the 'acceptable' stories, the ones that go down well
with their ruling group cronies.
But they wont touch the disappearance of John Humble because their
cronies in the ruling group have warned them off that FORBIDDEN
SUBJECT.
So even David Yallop, THE GREATEST INVESTIGATIVE WRITER IN THE WORLD,
will have nothing to do with the disappearance of John Humble.
Special Care
Feb 10, 2012, 9:25:05 AM2/10/12
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It's a standard human psychological trait.
If something is painfully embarrassing,
just refuse to think about it.
Happens all the time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrTRjRRpPCA
If something is painfully embarrassing,
just refuse to think about it.
Happens all the time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrTRjRRpPCA
Special Care
Feb 10, 2012, 9:58:47 AM2/10/12
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The Universal Infant
Feb 13, 2012, 7:03:56 AM2/13/12
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It's very interesting really - this human trait of wanting to support
and work for 'worthy causes,' so that you can feel 'proud' of
yourselves, but only the 'acceptable ones,' like saving starving
babies, who grow up to be evil warlords committing war crimes and
torture and female gential mutilation and other crimes....
.....................surely such babies are better left to die of
starvation to do the rest of us a favour............ if that is what
they are going to do when they grow up, you fools.... So, you save the
lives of filthy shits who grow up to commit female genital
mutilation....but when John Humble disappears in England, that's too
embarrassing and nobody will touch it, not even THE GREATEST
INVESTIGATIVE WRITER IN THE WORLD !
and work for 'worthy causes,' so that you can feel 'proud' of
yourselves, but only the 'acceptable ones,' like saving starving
babies, who grow up to be evil warlords committing war crimes and
torture and female gential mutilation and other crimes....
.....................surely such babies are better left to die of
starvation to do the rest of us a favour............ if that is what
they are going to do when they grow up, you fools.... So, you save the
lives of filthy shits who grow up to commit female genital
mutilation....but when John Humble disappears in England, that's too
embarrassing and nobody will touch it, not even THE GREATEST
INVESTIGATIVE WRITER IN THE WORLD !
Special Care
Feb 17, 2012, 8:40:20 AM2/17/12
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We associate the disappearance of citizens with regimes such as Chile
under General Pinochet.
People can't cope with the fact that people disappear in England, with
the collusion of silence by the mass media.
We want to believe that the likes of Melanie Philipps, John Pilger,
David Yallop, and their younger counterparts, would be shouting loudly
on our behalf if a citizen disappears.
The fact that these great investigative journalists will not touch
this subject is scary.
Too scary to think about.
It's a Forbidden Subject.
And it should make you very afraid if you live in England.
But then, if you refuse to protest vociferously against the
disappearance of John Humble and against the media blackout on this
subject, I don't care if the same thing happens to you.
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If you understand the Yorkshire Ripper Cover-up, the disappearance of
John Humble is easy to understand.
The Yorkshire Ripper case is to big a thought to be allowed into
consciousness.
It's a 'slippery slope' leading to the truth about our society.
You are not going to go there. You can't handle reality.
The Peter Sutcliffe Myth is your anaesthesia, your refuge, your hiding
place from the reality of the type of society England is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrTRjRRpPCA
under General Pinochet.
People can't cope with the fact that people disappear in England, with
the collusion of silence by the mass media.
We want to believe that the likes of Melanie Philipps, John Pilger,
David Yallop, and their younger counterparts, would be shouting loudly
on our behalf if a citizen disappears.
The fact that these great investigative journalists will not touch
this subject is scary.
Too scary to think about.
It's a Forbidden Subject.
And it should make you very afraid if you live in England.
But then, if you refuse to protest vociferously against the
disappearance of John Humble and against the media blackout on this
subject, I don't care if the same thing happens to you.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you understand the Yorkshire Ripper Cover-up, the disappearance of
John Humble is easy to understand.
The Yorkshire Ripper case is to big a thought to be allowed into
consciousness.
It's a 'slippery slope' leading to the truth about our society.
You are not going to go there. You can't handle reality.
The Peter Sutcliffe Myth is your anaesthesia, your refuge, your hiding
place from the reality of the type of society England is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrTRjRRpPCA
Rupert Bear
Feb 18, 2012, 11:19:48 AM2/18/12
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I like this old video clip....
It
Helps to remind folks what it was really about,,
before Peter Placebo was administered..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/8471021.stm
It should be a matter of very great public interest
if folks understood that the person who was principally
involved in planning and committing that series of murders
remains at liberty today...
Possibly even observed and protected by
state weasels by now,,
would not surprise me..
But HeyHo,,,
Yadda get a more lively result
Iffen you wanted to put up a
memorial to the three stooges outside
o thon Millngarth cop shop...
Ive been trying anuther way to explain
here...
https://groups.google.com/group/uk.local.yorkshire/browse_frm/thread/a713305441006ac6?hl=en#
................................................................................
Tom
Feb 20, 2012, 12:53:11 PM2/20/12
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On Feb 18, 4:19 pm, Rupert Bear <nutherpercept...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
---
The intensity of emotion displayed in that video is largely forgotten
now.
It's not surprising they administered the *Peter Sutcliffe
Anesthetic*.
The major pressure for a fake conviction was from Margaret Thatcher,
which is the worst thing she ever did.
If we had a bit of maturity, we'd all accept that there are lowlifes
in this world which the cops sometimes cannot catch.
----------------------------------------------------
The Three Stooges?
Well, I'd say there were four stooges:
Ronald Gregory, George Oldfield, Dick Holland, Jim Hobson.
Dick Holland wisely made himself scarce when the FAKE PRESS CONFERENCE
was arranged.
After that, Dick Holland - alone of the Four Stooges - was a major
'talking head' in TV documentaries promoting the Peter Sutcliffe Myth.
George Oldfield remained silent and quickly drank himself to death
after being ordered to smile at the FAKE PRESS CONFERENCE.
============================
Lots of nostalgia here:
http://www.itnsource.com/compilations/crimeandconflict/crime/?lr=S15120601
---
> Helps to remind folks what it was really about,,
> before Peter Placebo was administered..
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/8471021.stm
>
---
> before Peter Placebo was administered..
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/8471021.stm
>
> Yadda get a more lively result
> Iffen you wanted to put up a
> memorial to the three stooges outside
> o thon Millngarth cop shop...
--------------
> Iffen you wanted to put up a
> memorial to the three stooges outside
> o thon Millngarth cop shop...
The intensity of emotion displayed in that video is largely forgotten
now.
It's not surprising they administered the *Peter Sutcliffe
Anesthetic*.
The major pressure for a fake conviction was from Margaret Thatcher,
which is the worst thing she ever did.
If we had a bit of maturity, we'd all accept that there are lowlifes
in this world which the cops sometimes cannot catch.
----------------------------------------------------
The Three Stooges?
Well, I'd say there were four stooges:
Ronald Gregory, George Oldfield, Dick Holland, Jim Hobson.
Dick Holland wisely made himself scarce when the FAKE PRESS CONFERENCE
was arranged.
After that, Dick Holland - alone of the Four Stooges - was a major
'talking head' in TV documentaries promoting the Peter Sutcliffe Myth.
George Oldfield remained silent and quickly drank himself to death
after being ordered to smile at the FAKE PRESS CONFERENCE.
============================
Lots of nostalgia here:
http://www.itnsource.com/compilations/crimeandconflict/crime/?lr=S15120601
Special Care
Feb 24, 2012, 9:55:44 AM2/24/12
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http://www.itnsource.com/compilations/crimeandconflict/crime/?lr=S15120601
If you look there, at the press conference announcing and playing the
tape recording from the Yorkshire Ripper, you notice the air of
complete confidence with which George Oldfield declared:
“We now know we are looking for a man who originates from the North
East...." ..
........... meaning Sunderland / Castletown area… etc.
An experienced senior policeman doesn’t make such a statement without
good reason. There must have been something big in the unpublished
parts of the letters and tape, something which only the Yorkshire
Ripper and the police could have known.
But then there is a nonsequitor.
The fact that the letters and tape contained information known only to
the Yorkshire Ripper and to the police did NOT mean that either the
handwriting or the voice - nor even the saliva used to lick the flap
of the envelopes - were those of the Yorkshire Ripper. The handwriting
probably was - only probably. But there was no reason to believe that
the voice on the tape was that of the Yorkshire Ripper.
George Oldfield’s conclusion was not just a nonsequitor.
It was much more stupid than that.
George Oldfield’s logic was INVERTED.
The unedited tape revealed details known only to the police and to the
Yorkshire Ripper.
From that, the most logical conclusion to draw was that the voice was
NOT the voice of the Yorkshire Ripper.
Why would he identify himself?
There was a good probability that the voice belonged to a man who was
bullied and bribed into reading those words into the recorder and then
was killed by the Yorkshire Ripper to silence him, to mislead the
cops.
It is true that sometimes serial killers reach a stage where they feel
a need to be arrested, to ‘claim their crown’ and to be immortalised
in history. But if that were the case, he would have been found when
they saturated Yorkshire and Sunderland with copies of that
recording.
It is an embarrassing reflection on the limitations of the human mind
- the fact that the nonsequitor and inverted logic displayed by George
Oldfield remained unnoticed for thirty years. Even ‘the greatest
investigative writer in the world’ failed to spot the nonsequitor and
inverted logic in George Oldfield’s assumption that the voice must be
that of the Yorkshire Ripper because the voice mentioned details known
only to the police and the killer. The opposite conclusion - the
conclusion that it was NOT the voice of the Yorkshire Ripper, but a
*dead man talking* - was the more likely and more logical conclusion.
I’m embarrassed that I didn’t spot it either. As far as I know, the
man who uses the name ‘Rupert Bear’ on these pages was the first
person - only a couple of years ago - to see the nonsequitor and
inverted logic in the conclusions drawn by George Oldfield from the
‘Wearside Jack’ tape.
The police reaction back then was beyond the expectations of the
Yorkshire Ripper. It became police policy to eliminate from the
enquiry any man who did not have a Sunderland accent. A total
nonsequitor and inverted logic on the part of the bumbling, bungling
Keystone Cops of West Yorkshire. The Four Stooges.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
THE KEYSTONE COPS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SMf1M0ksGE
THE THREE STOOGES /
Fake Smiles from the Keystone Cops of West Yorkshire
at the Fake Press Conference:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIBVMVu2GdE&feature=related
If you look there, at the press conference announcing and playing the
tape recording from the Yorkshire Ripper, you notice the air of
complete confidence with which George Oldfield declared:
“We now know we are looking for a man who originates from the North
East...." ..
........... meaning Sunderland / Castletown area… etc.
An experienced senior policeman doesn’t make such a statement without
good reason. There must have been something big in the unpublished
parts of the letters and tape, something which only the Yorkshire
Ripper and the police could have known.
But then there is a nonsequitor.
The fact that the letters and tape contained information known only to
the Yorkshire Ripper and to the police did NOT mean that either the
handwriting or the voice - nor even the saliva used to lick the flap
of the envelopes - were those of the Yorkshire Ripper. The handwriting
probably was - only probably. But there was no reason to believe that
the voice on the tape was that of the Yorkshire Ripper.
George Oldfield’s conclusion was not just a nonsequitor.
It was much more stupid than that.
George Oldfield’s logic was INVERTED.
The unedited tape revealed details known only to the police and to the
Yorkshire Ripper.
From that, the most logical conclusion to draw was that the voice was
NOT the voice of the Yorkshire Ripper.
Why would he identify himself?
There was a good probability that the voice belonged to a man who was
bullied and bribed into reading those words into the recorder and then
was killed by the Yorkshire Ripper to silence him, to mislead the
cops.
It is true that sometimes serial killers reach a stage where they feel
a need to be arrested, to ‘claim their crown’ and to be immortalised
in history. But if that were the case, he would have been found when
they saturated Yorkshire and Sunderland with copies of that
recording.
It is an embarrassing reflection on the limitations of the human mind
- the fact that the nonsequitor and inverted logic displayed by George
Oldfield remained unnoticed for thirty years. Even ‘the greatest
investigative writer in the world’ failed to spot the nonsequitor and
inverted logic in George Oldfield’s assumption that the voice must be
that of the Yorkshire Ripper because the voice mentioned details known
only to the police and the killer. The opposite conclusion - the
conclusion that it was NOT the voice of the Yorkshire Ripper, but a
*dead man talking* - was the more likely and more logical conclusion.
I’m embarrassed that I didn’t spot it either. As far as I know, the
man who uses the name ‘Rupert Bear’ on these pages was the first
person - only a couple of years ago - to see the nonsequitor and
inverted logic in the conclusions drawn by George Oldfield from the
‘Wearside Jack’ tape.
The police reaction back then was beyond the expectations of the
Yorkshire Ripper. It became police policy to eliminate from the
enquiry any man who did not have a Sunderland accent. A total
nonsequitor and inverted logic on the part of the bumbling, bungling
Keystone Cops of West Yorkshire. The Four Stooges.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
THE KEYSTONE COPS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SMf1M0ksGE
THE THREE STOOGES /
Fake Smiles from the Keystone Cops of West Yorkshire
at the Fake Press Conference:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIBVMVu2GdE&feature=related
Rupert Bear
Feb 27, 2012, 7:01:36 AM2/27/12
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On Feb 24, 2:55 pm, Special Care <special.car...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.itnsource.com/compilations/crimeandconflict/crime/?lr=S151...
Ah Well....
The translation from your colourful Irish Gaelic of Non-Seqitior....
for us less well educated folks,, it reads as so ...
"does not follow" ,,I assume...
Personally I would prefer this definition,,
"does not necessarily follow"
in this context.....
And a recognition that there was much craft and cunning
demonstrated in those letters and tape..
Just as I try to lure the reader into a sense of scoffing
superiority with my deliberate mistake,,,
so did the author/s of the letters with his statements
in the second letter and on the tape...
"Police haven't a clue yet and I don't leave any"
from his second letter..
And
"No good looking for fingerprints, you should know by now"
from the tape....
While all the time he/they was smothering them with clues
which all lead in one direction,, away from Preston,,
away from Manchester,,, and ultimately away from Yorkshire too,,
he boasted about the absence of clues and how clever he was...
Clever touchy feely stuff of a natural psychologist,,,
which arrived with a third prediction to kill,,,
Two previous predictions had already been fulfilled,
so the third one was recognised for certain as another death sentence
for another girl at that time...
It most certainly was,, in this they were correct...
The letters and tape predictions plus media,, public and home
orifice,,
placed enormous pressure on the cops of the day
Regardless of,,
Whosoever that voice and handwriting may have belonged to,,,
the message it conveyed (and therefore the speaker)
most certainly was connected in some way or other
with the Yorkshire Ripper series of murders..
It was a matter of urgency to solve the case before the
third prophecy came true,, which it did in Bradford 79...
I do however concede that it still baffles me as to
why the cops became so completely convinced
that the voice on the tape was the killers own voice...
It really should have been recognised by someone
and reported to the cops within the first few days of it's release,,
a release under circumstances of great public pressure and urgency...
I think the cops were cleverly suckered into
chasing the voice in the North...
By the killer/s they underestimated...
"Dead man talking"
resolves Oldfield's paradox perfectly..
An innocent punter persuaded to read,,,
seems an obvious to consideration to me...
Why could they not see it....
?????????????????????????????
> http://www.itnsource.com/compilations/crimeandconflict/crime/?lr=S151...
The translation from your colourful Irish Gaelic of Non-Seqitior....
for us less well educated folks,, it reads as so ...
"does not follow" ,,I assume...
Personally I would prefer this definition,,
"does not necessarily follow"
in this context.....
And a recognition that there was much craft and cunning
demonstrated in those letters and tape..
Just as I try to lure the reader into a sense of scoffing
superiority with my deliberate mistake,,,
so did the author/s of the letters with his statements
in the second letter and on the tape...
"Police haven't a clue yet and I don't leave any"
from his second letter..
And
"No good looking for fingerprints, you should know by now"
from the tape....
While all the time he/they was smothering them with clues
which all lead in one direction,, away from Preston,,
away from Manchester,,, and ultimately away from Yorkshire too,,
he boasted about the absence of clues and how clever he was...
Clever touchy feely stuff of a natural psychologist,,,
which arrived with a third prediction to kill,,,
Two previous predictions had already been fulfilled,
so the third one was recognised for certain as another death sentence
for another girl at that time...
It most certainly was,, in this they were correct...
The letters and tape predictions plus media,, public and home
orifice,,
placed enormous pressure on the cops of the day
Regardless of,,
Whosoever that voice and handwriting may have belonged to,,,
the message it conveyed (and therefore the speaker)
most certainly was connected in some way or other
with the Yorkshire Ripper series of murders..
It was a matter of urgency to solve the case before the
third prophecy came true,, which it did in Bradford 79...
I do however concede that it still baffles me as to
why the cops became so completely convinced
that the voice on the tape was the killers own voice...
It really should have been recognised by someone
and reported to the cops within the first few days of it's release,,
a release under circumstances of great public pressure and urgency...
I think the cops were cleverly suckered into
chasing the voice in the North...
By the killer/s they underestimated...
"Dead man talking"
resolves Oldfield's paradox perfectly..
An innocent punter persuaded to read,,,
seems an obvious to consideration to me...
Why could they not see it....
?????????????????????????????
Rupert Bear
Feb 27, 2012, 8:07:10 AM2/27/12
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I try to see the cops position at the time...
I found another snap of Oldfield and posted
here...
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/?action=view¤t=OldiesCharts.jpg
Oldfield seemingly engrossed in the day to day
logistic of running a colossal investigation...
He seemed fond of his wall charts and broke down
the evening in question into 15 minute blocks...
Trying to pin down the important bits of witness testimony...
And well,,, what would he do with the envelope the tape arrived
in,,,,
Send it off to an expert in that field to ascertain for certain if it
matched the
other letters,, which was confirmed...
And what did the experts do with that printing,,,
This... ??..
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/?action=view¤t=Printing_cr.png
Did he have large blow ups of the cassette envelope placed on his
wall,,
well my guess is that he did not...
He had graphologists and other experts to analyse
the handwriting and voice for him...
Me,,, I was just Joe cowboy of all trades
who fears not to explore and strive for necessary skills...
Looking and figuring for oneself is something anyone can do
if you have some self reliance in your own abilities...
Not having been trained or qualified in any particular field
allows one a certain freedom...
I had my own reasons to be interested in Oldfield's Ripper case
and my own reasons to be interested in the handwriting....
I acquired the image of the cassette envelope
from Brannen and from the first moment I saw it
I became uncomfortable with the appearance of the
thing...
But then I was not looking at it from a blinkered specialists
point of view was I,,
With a broader spectrum of understanding,,
and with the benefit of hindsight,,
I examined the cassette envelope for the first time
on my computer screen in 2009...
And decided it was decidedly dodgy under the circumstances...
The tape and the envelope should be considered as a whole package,,
one needs time to sit back and wonder about the intuitive stuff...
See here...
http://tinyurl.com/7wrt55j
I eventually spotted an error by the printer of that envelope..
which clearly indicates a deliberate attempt to disguise
the printing of the author/s...
See here...
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/?action=view¤t=TellTails-1.jpg
There is no indication that the specialists or experts of the day
spotted that little error but I know it is highly significant...
All that dodgy printing was introduced into the
investigation as grounds for elimination...
But...
The whole package needs to be considered,,
not just the voice on the edited tape..
The specialists only see in their field..
I agree that the tape worked beyond all expectations of the author/s
But the reasons why are more difficult to understand...
Perhaps thame top cops was just so busy
they delegated specialities like handwriting
and voice analysis an to thame boffins..
While they got on wi the important stuff like finding thon killer...
The blindness of superior minded arrogance is one o the flaws of
society...
In my Opinion..
............................................................
Rupert Bear
Feb 27, 2012, 8:40:06 AM2/27/12
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On Feb 27, 1:07 pm, Rupert Bear <nutherpercept...@
Conceit.. ?
Not being fluent in ultimate gaelic I wrote arrogance
where conceit was my preference....
Daft bugger eh...
Not qualified to speak on these things...
Am I,,????????????
.................................................................
Conceit.. ?
>
> While they got on wi the important stuff like finding thon killer...
>
> The blindness of superior minded conceipt is one o the flaws of
> While they got on wi the important stuff like finding thon killer...
>
> society...
>
> In my Opinion..
>
> ............................................................
Oop's
>
> In my Opinion..
>
> ............................................................
Not being fluent in ultimate gaelic I wrote arrogance
where conceit was my preference....
Daft bugger eh...
Not qualified to speak on these things...
Am I,,????????????
.................................................................
spiritrising
Feb 27, 2012, 9:58:13 AM2/27/12
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Special Care wrote:
> If John Humble can disappear in England, so can you
well not really one must know that one is NOT in england for it to happen!
> If John Humble can disappear in England, so can you
Tom
Feb 27, 2012, 11:46:25 AM2/27/12
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I said John Humble has disappeared in England.
Ask anyone about John Humble and you will be met with an embarrassed
silence.
The Yorkshire Ripper thing, and the related John Humble fiasco, are
just too big for the average citizen's mind to contain, including 'the
greatest investigative writer in the world.'
-------------------
Special Care
Feb 27, 2012, 12:25:53 PM2/27/12
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"George is delighted as well !"
He doesn't look delighted.
And why would there be any need to say such a thing if you've just
'caught the Yorkshire Ripper?'
And he drank himself to death soon after being ordered to smile at
the FAKE PRESS CONFERENCE that launched The Peter Sutcliffe Myth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zcxudS-hrc&feature=related
He doesn't look delighted.
And why would there be any need to say such a thing if you've just
'caught the Yorkshire Ripper?'
And he drank himself to death soon after being ordered to smile at
the FAKE PRESS CONFERENCE that launched The Peter Sutcliffe Myth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zcxudS-hrc&feature=related
Rupert Bear
Mar 1, 2012, 3:50:31 AM3/1/12
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On Feb 24, 2:55 pm, Special Care <special.car...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.itnsource.com/compilations/crimeandconflict/crime/?lr=S151...
along with all of the pauses and gaps...
I think it is very likely to be true,, some nasty detail to sting the
cops
with and make em hate the reader,, would of worked well...
Here is Humble fessing up for the cameras..?
Twenty five years later..
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/?action=view¤t=HumbleInterview.mp4
Comical aint it...
..................................................
> http://www.itnsource.com/compilations/crimeandconflict/crime/?lr=S151...
>
> If you look there, at the press conference announcing and playing the
> tape recording from the Yorkshire Ripper, you notice the air of
> complete confidence with which George Oldfield declared:
> “We now know we are looking for a man who originates from the North
> East...." ..
> ........... meaning Sunderland / Castletown area… etc.
>
> An experienced senior policeman doesn’t make such a statement without
> good reason. There must have been something big in the unpublished
> parts of the letters and tape, something which only the Yorkshire
> Ripper and the police could have known.
>
They said a reference to one of the murders had been edited out
> If you look there, at the press conference announcing and playing the
> tape recording from the Yorkshire Ripper, you notice the air of
> complete confidence with which George Oldfield declared:
> “We now know we are looking for a man who originates from the North
> East...." ..
> ........... meaning Sunderland / Castletown area… etc.
>
> An experienced senior policeman doesn’t make such a statement without
> good reason. There must have been something big in the unpublished
> parts of the letters and tape, something which only the Yorkshire
> Ripper and the police could have known.
>
along with all of the pauses and gaps...
I think it is very likely to be true,, some nasty detail to sting the
cops
with and make em hate the reader,, would of worked well...
Here is Humble fessing up for the cameras..?
Twenty five years later..
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/?action=view¤t=HumbleInterview.mp4
Comical aint it...
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Rupert Bear
Mar 1, 2012, 6:06:14 PM3/1/12
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>
> Comical aint it...
>
> ..................................................
And then read this...
To see see how disgracefully his conviction was used..
YORKSHIRE Ripper Peter Sutcliffe blames hoaxer John Humble
for prolonging his reign of terror.
The 59-year-old serial killer, serving life at Broadmoor high-security
hospital,
has told inmates he wanted police to catch him.
But he said he was "forced" to continue killing after Humble,
posing as Wearside Jack, sent detectives on a false trail.
As Humble was jailed for eight years yesterday,
it was revealed that Sutcliffe had told a source:
"I was not in control of my own actions when I killed those women.
"If Wearside Jack hadn't made those stupid tapes
and sent the police up to Sunderland, they would have got me earlier.
"Those women needn't have died.
They could have been saved from me,
from that person who committed those horrific crimes.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/2006/03/22/wearside-jack-s-to-blame-for-murders-86908-16847313/
Here is an ol nutting post that surfaced the other day..
http://england-uk.com.ua/legal/2006/03/23/199213-re-wearside-jack.html
Might be of interest to some..
Reminds me of thon Tzar chappie,,
Wot was is name,,,
Oh,, yea,, Hellawell...
Is an interesting geezer..
The only cop who ever said they found traces of two
at some of the crime scenes...
In his book,, The Outsider..
Also mentioned by Lavelle
in his book,,
Shadow of the Ripper...
Worth a read..
...................................
Rupert Bear
Mar 1, 2012, 6:36:08 PM3/1/12
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>
> Here is an ol nutting post that surfaced the other day..
>
> http://england-uk.com.ua/legal/2006/03/23/199213-re-wearside-jack.html
>
Yea,, the cops/authoroties can have any amount of malignant
> Here is an ol nutting post that surfaced the other day..
>
> http://england-uk.com.ua/legal/2006/03/23/199213-re-wearside-jack.html
>
and twisted diatribe printed in the UK press when it suits them..
And I wonder which was/is the greater crime against society...
????????????????
Rupert Bear
Mar 1, 2012, 6:48:31 PM3/1/12
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>
> Here is an ol nutting post that surfaced the other day..
>
> http://england-uk.com.ua/legal/2006/03/23/199213-re-wearside-jack.html
>
> Might be of interest to some..
> Reminds me of thon Tzar chappie,,
>
> Wot was is name,,,
>
> Oh,, yea,, Hellawell...
> Is an interesting geezer..
>
> The only cop who ever said they found traces of two
> at some of the crime scenes...
>
> In his book,, The Outsider..
>
> Also mentioned by Lavelle
> in his book,,
>
> Shadow of the Ripper...
>
> Worth a read..
>
> ...................................
Here is the original Jack tape again...
> Here is an ol nutting post that surfaced the other day..
>
> http://england-uk.com.ua/legal/2006/03/23/199213-re-wearside-jack.html
>
> Might be of interest to some..
> Reminds me of thon Tzar chappie,,
>
> Wot was is name,,,
>
> Oh,, yea,, Hellawell...
> Is an interesting geezer..
>
> The only cop who ever said they found traces of two
> at some of the crime scenes...
>
> In his book,, The Outsider..
>
> Also mentioned by Lavelle
> in his book,,
>
> Shadow of the Ripper...
>
> Worth a read..
>
> ...................................
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/?action=view¤t=Produce.mp4
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Rupert Bear
Mar 1, 2012, 6:59:40 PM3/1/12
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>
> ...........................
There is an interesting peculiarity,,
recorded at his trial..
"The issue now is not one of whether it actually was him…
it is solely the question of intent."
http://www.4ni.co.uk/northern_ireland_news.asp?id=48676
Think about it..
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The Universal Infant
Mar 3, 2012, 9:09:38 AM3/3/12
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There is such a thing as *deathbed confession*.
That handsome young man Jim Hobson is still alive in Harrogate, as far
as I know.
He probably had a strict religious upbringing.
If he suffers painful degenerative disease in his final years, he may
feel the need to make his peace with God by confessing to the
Yorkshire Ripper cover-up and what was really going on after Peter
Sutcliffe forced his arrest and displayed a willingness to confess to
anything.
Dick Holland directly handled the deal for Sutcliffe's confessions.
But the others of The Four Stooges knew what was going on.
Jim Hobson smiled the fake smile at the fake press conference.
He has had to live with that falsehood since that terrible day.
A man dying in great pain from cancer or similar has nothing left to
lose.
I do not rule out the possibililty of a *deathbed confession* by Jim
Hobson.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
That handsome young man Jim Hobson is still alive in Harrogate, as far
as I know.
He probably had a strict religious upbringing.
If he suffers painful degenerative disease in his final years, he may
feel the need to make his peace with God by confessing to the
Yorkshire Ripper cover-up and what was really going on after Peter
Sutcliffe forced his arrest and displayed a willingness to confess to
anything.
Dick Holland directly handled the deal for Sutcliffe's confessions.
But the others of The Four Stooges knew what was going on.
Jim Hobson smiled the fake smile at the fake press conference.
He has had to live with that falsehood since that terrible day.
A man dying in great pain from cancer or similar has nothing left to
lose.
I do not rule out the possibililty of a *deathbed confession* by Jim
Hobson.
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spiritrising
Mar 3, 2012, 10:09:04 AM3/3/12
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The Universal Infant wrote:
> Jim Hobson
i'm still convinced raymond falconer did it, using his badge as a cover
> Jim Hobson
i'm still convinced raymond falconer did it, using his badge as a cover
Rupert Bear
Mar 3, 2012, 2:01:30 PM3/3/12
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WhoHe,,,,
So I dun a google...
And found this....
On close examination of the report,
it was discovered that the sections of the report
from 1977 which concerned the route -
that the police had then thought the victim had taken -
had been taken out of the report.
This was one of the key factual areas which was later in great
dispute
in the case.
The West Yorkshire police had effectively denied
the Court of Appeal access to the report by editing it.
We do not know who took the pages from that report.
But we know that Detective Inspector Mould wrote it
and therefore he knew what was in it.
And we know that Detective Sergeant Falconer
wrote down the version that Steel was supposed to have
given on the route and that he must have read the 1977 report.
D.I. Mould had retired and died before Steel’s solicitor
had legal powers to demand this report,
which was an internal police document.
D.S. Raymond Falconer retired from the force at about the same time.
More Here...
http://www.roughjusticetv.co.uk/team.htm ......
.....
Rupert Bear
Mar 3, 2012, 4:20:29 PM3/3/12
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I think..
There is little to be gained from
finger pointing blame gaim...
Better that folks should look for themselves
examine those letters and tape for themselves....
Think for themselves..
And realise that..
There is no hoaxer scenario relating to those
letters and tape from Sunderland that hold water....
They predicted three deaths which all came true,,,
The first two letters forecast the death of an old hooker
in Manchester or Liverpool..
Signed Jack the Ripper...
(from Sunderland)
Yeah rite,,,
Claimed he had dun that one in Preston too,,
and sent a letter to the daily Mirror
saying pretty much the same thing...
But omitting the Huddersfield reference
found in Oldfield's letter...
(Mirror Letter was also from Sunderland)
Well really,,, who was a gonna take them
all that seriously... Issa fair bet...
The Manchester prediction was the most accurate
of them all from the point of view where it would occur...
And in the first two letters it was a pretty safe bet that
the cops would not lay wait in Manchester and Liverpool
for the Jack Ripper writer from Sunderland...
Na,, tha's a pretty safe bet to be sure..
And sure enough,, one night two months later ,,
he decides,,, rite,,,,
Time to go an keep my prediction
an show thame cops am not fooling...
These are the facts of the case,,,
a murder was predicted and carried out
two months later...
An old gal exactly as promised in Manchester,,,
Bye some geezer writing from Sunderland....
Said he dun the one in Preston too...
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Rupert Bear
Mar 3, 2012, 5:40:47 PM3/3/12
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> Bye some geezer writing from Sunderland....
> Said he dun the one in Preston too...
>
Well,,,
> Said he dun the one in Preston too...
>
I said..
"Writing from Sunderland"
but this is just an assumption,,,
Posting from Sunderland is the fact....
Sending a letter from Sunderland to the Daily Mirror
is another fact....
That he wished publicity for his letters from Sunderland
is a reasonable deduction...
So what happened wi that plan
from the writers point of view...
41 year old V Millward was killed in Manchester
just as he told them he was a gonna do...
He had connected Preston which also
connected forensic evidence from that murder
which had not previously been known to the Police..
They also had his handwriting now,, Knew his bite mark,,??
and Knew of his rare blood type....
And as he had sent a copy of his letter to the press
one can imagine that the guy was hoping to
hear something about his Jack Ripper letters from Sunderland
in the press...
It was already the biggest UK serial murder case
at that time,,, an the cops response to the killer
did not acknowledge his Jack Ripper letters from Sunderland..
What happened was that they did eventually include Preston
(wi the bite mark) but they also included another
girl he had not killed,, (Yvonne Pearson)
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Yvonne%20Pearson/
And did not say one word about his
Jack Ripper letters from Sunderland...
Yeh thats the way it was,,
He wrote off an tol the cops and the press
he was a gonna do an old un I Manchester or Liverpool..
He told them he dun tha one in Preston
wi the bite mark and rare blood type...
An all he got for his trouble was that everyone was told
of a lunatic wot now had killed ten...
And no mention of his JACK RIPPER LETTERS
FROM SUNDERLAND,,, saying was a gonna do it...
Well he warent no mindless lunatic an he
warent too pleased wi thon result...
The Ripper case stopped for a year
at that time while he was waiting for the cops response..
AND THEN PLANNING HIS OWN...
Next thing to happen was another letter
from Sunderland,,
Warning he was gettin back to work
in ol style Jack Ripper lingo...
The Universal Infant
Mar 5, 2012, 6:35:13 AM3/5/12
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There was something in the unpublished parts of the letters and tape
which convinced George Oldfield that they came from the REAL Yorkshire
Ripper.
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.local.geordie/msg/f270bf37f169136d?hl=en
which convinced George Oldfield that they came from the REAL Yorkshire
Ripper.
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.local.geordie/msg/f270bf37f169136d?hl=en
Rupert Bear
Mar 7, 2012, 11:10:43 PM3/7/12
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On Mar 5, 11:35 am, The Universal Infant <special.car...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Well as you should know by now..
I do not buy into the Irish Version...
Selling Sutty as the whacky copy-cat,,
drooling and a pantin to get arrested an taken into care...
All thon thrashin about wi the facts of the case
only muddies the waters and raises a mixture of illogical
thinking,, and some justifiable doubts...
Which as they are all related to a trains and boats and planes
and taxis,,killer,,??? From Ireland,,????
Wi a briefcasefull of weliies and hammers
It just makes things laughable
and even more difficult to understand...
Clouding the waters has always been a good way to hide the truth...
Here is a wee clip o truth from the guy
wot died of frustration of not getting his man..
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/?action=view¤t=GodfreysGaf.mp4
He was right,,, the letters and tape could only
have come from the killer..
Have a look here..
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/
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wrote:
> There was something in the unpublished parts of the letters and tape
> which convinced George Oldfield that they came from the REAL Yorkshire
> Ripper.http://groups.google.com/group/uk.local.geordie/msg/f270bf37f169136d?...
> which convinced George Oldfield that they came from the REAL Yorkshire
Well as you should know by now..
I do not buy into the Irish Version...
Selling Sutty as the whacky copy-cat,,
drooling and a pantin to get arrested an taken into care...
All thon thrashin about wi the facts of the case
only muddies the waters and raises a mixture of illogical
thinking,, and some justifiable doubts...
Which as they are all related to a trains and boats and planes
and taxis,,killer,,??? From Ireland,,????
Wi a briefcasefull of weliies and hammers
It just makes things laughable
and even more difficult to understand...
Clouding the waters has always been a good way to hide the truth...
Here is a wee clip o truth from the guy
wot died of frustration of not getting his man..
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/?action=view¤t=GodfreysGaf.mp4
He was right,,, the letters and tape could only
have come from the killer..
Have a look here..
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/
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Tom
Mar 10, 2012, 6:49:28 AM3/10/12
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On Mar 8, 4:10 am, Rupert Bear <nutherpercept...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I do not buy into the Irish Version...
>
> Selling Sutty as the whacky copy-cat,,
> drooling and a pantin to get arrested an taken into care...
>
> All thon thrashin about wi the facts of the case
> only muddies the waters ..............
>
> I do not buy into the Irish Version...
>
> Selling Sutty as the whacky copy-cat,,
> drooling and a pantin to get arrested an taken into care...
>
> All thon thrashin about wi the facts of the case
============
You are quick to ridicule Mr Noel O'Gara's contribution because his
'suspect' differs from yours.
I never said Billy Tracy was the Yorkshire Ripper, but he 'fits the
frame.'
It's credible enough.
He didn't need "a briefcasefull of weliies and hammers."
Just one knife and one hammer.
Oh it's easy to poke fun at it, but it was a clever ploy for Billy
Tracey, concealing a folding knife between his buttocks, knowing that
the cops, if they frisked him, would be afraid to touch the cleft of
his buttocks for fear of being called homosexual.
And then he could easily have picked up a hammer in a hardware store
when he got to England.
I've no axe to grind one way or the other.
My only goddess is truth.
Neither you nor Mr O'Gara can prove your allegations beyond all doubt,
nor beyond reasonable doubt as in a reasonable British court room.
But you both do make highly plausible cases.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't know why you keep ridiculing the idea that Peter Sutlcliffe
*wanted* to be arrested.
If Peter Sutcliffe had walked into Millgarth in 1980 and said "I'm the
Yorkshire Ripper," he would have been booted out the door because he
didn't have a Wearside accent.
Yet Peter Sutcliffe WAS a serial killer who, by an amazing confluence
of events, began his clumsy attacks on women in the mid-1970s at about
the same time as the Yorkshire Ripper chose to start with Wilma
McCann, leaving his unique 'trademarks,' different to Peter Sutcliffes
clumsy antics. The Yorkshire Ripper always killed. By contrast, Peter
Sutcliffe began with a series of clumsy non-fatal assaults accompanied
by masturbation at the scene..........Mareclla etc.
As for wanting to be arrested, consider what happened. Peter Sutcliffe
displayed fake number plates in a location where police frequently
checked on parked vehicles, then volunteered his confession in an
interview with polite cops behaving as English gentlemen. He'd been
interviewed about ten times already. He could easily have wriggled out
of that one and just paid a fine for displaying false number plates.
Assuming our civilisation holds together, some day the whole story
will be told.
A deathbed confession from Jim Hobson of Harrogate would be helpful.
How about it, Jimmy?
Rupert Bear
Mar 11, 2012, 3:53:15 AM3/11/12
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and for the most part I try to avoid the
OG v Brannen v Official version...
Punch and Judy...
It was only your posting that dodgy old Mr Maff thread that started
me nitpicking...
That he plays merry with the confirmed victims list
is a thing he shares in common with the
post-sutty,, official version....
Surviving victims are an inconvenience to the Irish
hypotheses and therefore there are none,,
Any survivors are eagerly bundled onto
the Smutty Platter which is another consistent
with the monstering of the publicly perceived monster...
And then I see no.13 (of the pre-smutty line up)
as the one exeption to the Irish
deaduns fit best on the Tracey plate
way of thinking...
Why would that be I wonder,,,,
It appears to me that both Punch,, and Judy,
have a common interest...
The monstoring of the Publicly percieved monster
is never questioned by either camp.....
Or by the Olive Curry/Lavelle/Sunderland camp either...
No 13,, in Alma road was the last straw
that the camel could bear...
Gregory's remarks in clip no 7 at your ITN lin,,
reflect the changing winds of the
Yorkshire Ripper case...
http://www.itnsource.com/compilations/crimeandconflict/crime/?lr=S15120601
And then Sutty was produced like a rabbit out of a magicians hat...
We live in a deceptive an sneaky world folks,,,
DVD's and documentary's are produced with
carefully edited and presented perceptions of
the case for your consumption....
All the row-rah about the ripper case from 96
onwards seems consistent with a last gasp thrash about,,
Authorities beaten an lumbered wi secrets,,an lies,,
bumbling about in the dark...
Public apathy is a desirable situation,,
consistent with posts in this thread
There is a poster on usenet who
uses a footnote i would like to borrow at this time....
The success of the Plan relies on the
natural curiosity of potatoes....
For those who aspire to thoughts of their own...
I have a good selection of old pre-smutty news,,
and some views of my own,,, here...
http://s867.photobucket.com/profile/rupert-bear-2010
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Rupert Bear
Mar 16, 2012, 11:07:02 AM3/16/12
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On Mar 3, 10:40 pm, Rupert Bear <
Two letters were posted from Sunderland
,, one was sent to Detective Oldfield..
,one which was almost the same was sent to
"The Daily Mirror"
The letters predicted that Yorkie Boy,,
would kill next in Manchester or Liverpool,,
and that it would be an oldun next...
IT IS A FACT... SEVERAL WEEKS LATER
AN OLD GIRL WAS MURDERED IN MANCHESTER,
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED
> And no mention came about his JACK RIPPER LETTERS
A third letter was sent after that quiet year
of guessing wot the other guy was up to....
Dear George..
"You were warned, you shouldda took heed"
"bet youve been wondering when all be getting back to work"
BLAH BLAH BLAH,,,
Nasty,, affected Ripper style guff,,,
wi a message in his words...
Still here and am getting back to work
you shoulda took heed..
No more Mr Nice guy,,,
"man i respect"
Generally not happy tone
and i warned ya....
FACT,,,,,
Eleven days after that letter
FROM SUNDERLAND,,,
George Oldfield found himself looking at
another dead girl in the mud...
Another confirmed Ripper victim..
ANOTHER FACT.
On whose body,, oil was found,,,
that matched with oil found on that
warning letter FROM SUNDERLAND..
Yer,, the writer of those letters from Sunderland
laid orf for a year,,,
But the fact is that when he wrote again,,,
A girl died again,,,
Leaving oil traces that connected the murder weapon
to that third letter,,FROM SUNDERLAND.....
An unusual triangular stabbing weapon was used
for the first time that day in Halifax,,
I'll bet it was that unusual weapon what
left trace of oil,, that connected to the
letter that connected to Sunderland...
Chris iss a sounding like nursery rymes now
is a so simple...
Anso the cops went of to Sunderland to look for tha man there..
The one what posted predictions to them
FROM SUNDERLAND WAS ALL THEY KNEW FOR CERTAIN..
And then a tape was sent to them warning of
another death to come...
The voice on the tape was definitely from that town,,
a distinct local voice easily recognised...
And yet he could not be found....??
FINAL FACTS ..
The prediction on the tape also came true,,,
another indisputable Yorkshire Ripper Killing
just as predicted on the tape was
further confirmed by the Pathologist..
Who identified that triangular weapon ,,
wot had oil on it last time it was used,,
Oil wot connect wi the letters from Sunderland
and now connected wi the Sunderland mans
prediction of of death...
Yer,,
Yorkshire Cops was GETTING THE IDEA,,
SUNDERLAND
BIG TIME
LOUD AND CLEAR......
Cept the couldin find tha man could they...
Well thas a puzzle innit....
NUTHER PUZZLE..
Despite having all these positive
links forensic and connections
and three accurate predictions of death...
The letters and tape were labelled a hoax
by the high and mighties ,,
and the contents and predictions
of the first two letters were kept secret,,
despite one having been sent to the press..
A Naebuddy said a word about it
till after Sutty was Convicted....
Pardon my idiomisms
an mousepromincements...
I do seem like
Yorkshire Ripper for Dummies..
"A regrettable coincidence"
Byford i think it was,, said that...
Two letters were posted from Sunderland
,, one was sent to Detective Oldfield..
,one which was almost the same was sent to
"The Daily Mirror"
The letters predicted that Yorkie Boy,,
would kill next in Manchester or Liverpool,,
and that it would be an oldun next...
IT IS A FACT... SEVERAL WEEKS LATER
AN OLD GIRL WAS MURDERED IN MANCHESTER,
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED
> And no mention came about his JACK RIPPER LETTERS
> FROM SUNDERLAND,,, saying was a gonna do it...
ISSA NUTHER FACT
>
> Well he warent no mindless lunatic an he
> warent too pleased wi thon result...
>
> The Ripper case stopped for a year
> at that time while he was waiting for the cops response..
> weighing things up and then....
> Well he warent no mindless lunatic an he
> warent too pleased wi thon result...
>
> The Ripper case stopped for a year
> at that time while he was waiting for the cops response..
>
>
> Next thing to happen was another letter
> from Sunderland,,
> Warning he was gettin back to work
> in ol style Jack Ripper lingo...
Yer,,,
>
> Next thing to happen was another letter
> from Sunderland,,
> Warning he was gettin back to work
> in ol style Jack Ripper lingo...
A third letter was sent after that quiet year
of guessing wot the other guy was up to....
Dear George..
"You were warned, you shouldda took heed"
"bet youve been wondering when all be getting back to work"
BLAH BLAH BLAH,,,
Nasty,, affected Ripper style guff,,,
wi a message in his words...
Still here and am getting back to work
you shoulda took heed..
No more Mr Nice guy,,,
"man i respect"
Generally not happy tone
and i warned ya....
FACT,,,,,
Eleven days after that letter
FROM SUNDERLAND,,,
George Oldfield found himself looking at
another dead girl in the mud...
Another confirmed Ripper victim..
ANOTHER FACT.
On whose body,, oil was found,,,
that matched with oil found on that
warning letter FROM SUNDERLAND..
Yer,, the writer of those letters from Sunderland
laid orf for a year,,,
But the fact is that when he wrote again,,,
A girl died again,,,
Leaving oil traces that connected the murder weapon
to that third letter,,FROM SUNDERLAND.....
An unusual triangular stabbing weapon was used
for the first time that day in Halifax,,
I'll bet it was that unusual weapon what
left trace of oil,, that connected to the
letter that connected to Sunderland...
Chris iss a sounding like nursery rymes now
is a so simple...
Anso the cops went of to Sunderland to look for tha man there..
The one what posted predictions to them
FROM SUNDERLAND WAS ALL THEY KNEW FOR CERTAIN..
And then a tape was sent to them warning of
another death to come...
The voice on the tape was definitely from that town,,
a distinct local voice easily recognised...
And yet he could not be found....??
FINAL FACTS ..
The prediction on the tape also came true,,,
another indisputable Yorkshire Ripper Killing
just as predicted on the tape was
further confirmed by the Pathologist..
Who identified that triangular weapon ,,
wot had oil on it last time it was used,,
Oil wot connect wi the letters from Sunderland
and now connected wi the Sunderland mans
prediction of of death...
Yer,,
Yorkshire Cops was GETTING THE IDEA,,
SUNDERLAND
BIG TIME
LOUD AND CLEAR......
Cept the couldin find tha man could they...
Well thas a puzzle innit....
NUTHER PUZZLE..
Despite having all these positive
links forensic and connections
and three accurate predictions of death...
The letters and tape were labelled a hoax
by the high and mighties ,,
and the contents and predictions
of the first two letters were kept secret,,
despite one having been sent to the press..
A Naebuddy said a word about it
till after Sutty was Convicted....
Pardon my idiomisms
an mousepromincements...
I do seem like
Yorkshire Ripper for Dummies..
"A regrettable coincidence"
Byford i think it was,, said that...
Rupert Bear
Mar 16, 2012, 12:32:44 PM3/16/12
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On Mar 16, 3:07 pm, Rupert Bear <nutherpercept...
Re the tape warning prediction,,,
Ya can't get away with the argument that Sutty
heard that tape and went off an fulfilled thon
tape prediction wot he heard on the telly....
Cos of the triangular weapon was used again
and he could not have heard about that...
At the preceding murder
murder in Halifax,, it was used
again used in Bradford...
That knowledge most certainly was not publicly known at the time....
The triangular weapon was POSITIVELY connected to the letters,,
FROM SUNDERLAND..
wi the oil and obviously accurate foreknowledge,, demonstrated by..
TWO EARLIER WARNINGS OF DEATH THAT HAD ALSO COME TRUE..
Followed by a third warning of death,, which also came true...
it was issued in the form of a tape recorded message,,,
A GENUINE SUNDERLAND MANS VOICE...
And the Sunderland,,prediction of death,, was absolutely
confirmed when the prediction came true in Bradford,,
the triangular weapon was used again...
Well,,
While all these links to Sunderland werra
screamin out to the cops,,,
IM FROM SUNDERLAND YA NOODLE
COME AN GET ME BEFORE I KILL ANOTHER..
Boy oh boy did they ever go after that man,,,
cos they knew they get him easy wi what they knew about im...
But inexplicably the just could not find that man...
Oh Dear Me,,, WORRAFFAGOTWRONGNOW..
Eggy face big time...
An folks started pointin out the obvious
inconvenient facts to thame cops...
Like erm well,,, scuse me mister
but two of thon girls spoke wi the killer
and they don't reckon he was from Sunderland....
Well facts is facts,,
THEY STAND TRUE AND ALONE.
All good honest folks can do is interpret their meaning
to the best of their abilities..
And so the cops stuck to their guns
cos the fact was that a positive connection did exist
twixt the murders and letters and the voice from SUNDERLAND...
Cept other facts from surviving
victims said the killer was...
NOT FROM SUNDERLAND
NOT A SUNDERLAND MAN..
The thing is,,
IT WAS ONLY AN ASSUMPTION
that it was the killers own voice...
The letters and tape did,, with out any doubt,,
come from the killer,,
this can be considered,, a key,, reliable fact...
But was that the killers voice,,,
The cops seemed to have no doubt...
Oh dear ,,,
what a muddle,, it do make me poor head hurt,,,
Two different lines of reasoning,,
what one will i choose...
An iffen Sutty killed thon Girl in Bradford,,,
how could he kow about
using that triangular weapon,,,
Thas a queer thing,,
and the one weapon not laid out
for public horrification,,
During the Smutty trial...
Voices from God,,
an a devine retribution ...
A,,
Guilty or,, Guilty Trial...
..........................................
Re the tape warning prediction,,,
Ya can't get away with the argument that Sutty
heard that tape and went off an fulfilled thon
tape prediction wot he heard on the telly....
Cos of the triangular weapon was used again
and he could not have heard about that...
At the preceding murder
murder in Halifax,, it was used
again used in Bradford...
That knowledge most certainly was not publicly known at the time....
The triangular weapon was POSITIVELY connected to the letters,,
FROM SUNDERLAND..
wi the oil and obviously accurate foreknowledge,, demonstrated by..
TWO EARLIER WARNINGS OF DEATH THAT HAD ALSO COME TRUE..
Followed by a third warning of death,, which also came true...
it was issued in the form of a tape recorded message,,,
A GENUINE SUNDERLAND MANS VOICE...
And the Sunderland,,prediction of death,, was absolutely
confirmed when the prediction came true in Bradford,,
the triangular weapon was used again...
Well,,
While all these links to Sunderland werra
screamin out to the cops,,,
IM FROM SUNDERLAND YA NOODLE
COME AN GET ME BEFORE I KILL ANOTHER..
Boy oh boy did they ever go after that man,,,
cos they knew they get him easy wi what they knew about im...
But inexplicably the just could not find that man...
Oh Dear Me,,, WORRAFFAGOTWRONGNOW..
Eggy face big time...
An folks started pointin out the obvious
inconvenient facts to thame cops...
Like erm well,,, scuse me mister
but two of thon girls spoke wi the killer
and they don't reckon he was from Sunderland....
Well facts is facts,,
THEY STAND TRUE AND ALONE.
All good honest folks can do is interpret their meaning
to the best of their abilities..
And so the cops stuck to their guns
cos the fact was that a positive connection did exist
twixt the murders and letters and the voice from SUNDERLAND...
Cept other facts from surviving
victims said the killer was...
NOT FROM SUNDERLAND
NOT A SUNDERLAND MAN..
The thing is,,
IT WAS ONLY AN ASSUMPTION
that it was the killers own voice...
The letters and tape did,, with out any doubt,,
come from the killer,,
this can be considered,, a key,, reliable fact...
But was that the killers voice,,,
The cops seemed to have no doubt...
Oh dear ,,,
what a muddle,, it do make me poor head hurt,,,
Two different lines of reasoning,,
what one will i choose...
An iffen Sutty killed thon Girl in Bradford,,,
how could he kow about
using that triangular weapon,,,
Thas a queer thing,,
and the one weapon not laid out
for public horrification,,
During the Smutty trial...
Voices from God,,
an a devine retribution ...
A,,
Guilty or,, Guilty Trial...
..........................................
Rupert Bear
Mar 17, 2012, 12:48:15 AM3/17/12
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http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/?action=view¤t=HomeOfficeTeam.jpg
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/?action=view¤t=Chummy.jpg
..........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N3N1MlvVc4
...............................
Rupert Bear
Mar 17, 2012, 12:56:28 AM3/17/12
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>
> http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/?action=vie...
>
> ..........
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N3N1MlvVc4
>
> ...............................
Yer it becomes a sort of abstract problem because
of the shear quantity or weight of conflicting information...
Go back to basics folks...
Pre-smutty just does not
tally with post-smutty...
When you look and think for yourselves..
Think for yourselves is all you can trust..
Try here..
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/
.............................................................
Rupert Bear
Mar 23, 2012, 4:19:51 AM3/23/12
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On Mar 16, 4:32 pm, Rupert Bear <nutherpercept...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Well,,
> While all those links to Sunderland werra
>
> Oh Dear Me,,, WORRAFFAGOTWRONGNOW..
>
> Inexplicably,, they just could not find that man...
> Eggy face big time...
>
> An folks started pointin out the obvious
> inconvenient facts to thame cops...
>
> Like erm well,,, scuse me mister
> but two of thon girls spoke wi the killer
> and they don't reckon he was from Sunderland....
>
> Other facts from surviving
> victims shouted just as loudley,,
and said the killer was...
situation because the facts stand regardless
of whether they appear to contradict one an other...
Better to wipe the board clean and chew things
over again...
I see things a different way,,, I couldin reverse engineer a
micro chip but this seems a similar problem...
When you appreciate that the cops did not go off
and scour Sunderland bare for that man
without very good reason...
When you appreciate that three accurate predictions of death
simply cannot be a hoax...
One might ask what the letters and tape did,,??
What message did they send,,???
Was the killer not saying rather too loudly
"I'm from Sunderland"
"I'm from Sunderland"
And then they could not find him
despite everything they knew about him...
Well that situation does not change any of the facts
but it does present a problem...
People who thought the voice would have been recognised in days
when the tape was released,, were now seriously
concerned because the man had not been found,,,
And they started shoutin the tape must be a hoax
because you cant find him...
SUPER-HOAXER,,, who was later to become
SUTTYS-SUPER-SUNDERLAND-BUM-CHUM
Was now flavour of the moment,,,
and bandied about while cops
kept quiet about the first letters
and the triangular weapon and the oils
was forgotten too...
Yeah,, a growing public disquiet while
the cops kept quiet...
ROW-RAH-ROW-RAH..
An the facts sat there quietly,,
overlooked in the noise of the day
poor neglected creatures,,
waiting only to be understood...
Well,, the conflicts of Oldfield,s
case can be reconciled if you look again...
A serial killer sent those letters and tape to
the Police,, and they chased their tails
round Sunderland till everyone lost faith
in them...
Facts don't change
just cos you can't find what you think you look for...
They was always just sitting there larffing
at all youse thrashin about...
And...
Eanni meanie miny mo nonsense..
A good place to start
would be to listen to that tape again,,,
(the original unedited version)...
And then have a good long look at the
envelope it came in and recognise
and see for yourselves what a
shady package it all was...
Yeah,,
when acknowledged for the suspicious
bundle the tape and the envelope it arrived in,,
actually was....
Tie a piece of string round your finger
to remind yourself,,,,
the facts of three accurate predictions
and the various forensic links
stand proud,,,
regardless of their fishy pong...
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/?action=view¤t=DecidedlyDodgy.jpg
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/?action=view¤t=Produce.mp4
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/
...................................................................................
>
> > Well,,
> While all those links to Sunderland werra
> screamin out to the cops,,,
>
> IM FROM SUNDERLAND YA NOODLE
> COME AN GET ME BEFORE I KILL ANOTHER..
>
>Eighteen months later...
>
> IM FROM SUNDERLAND YA NOODLE
> COME AN GET ME BEFORE I KILL ANOTHER..
>
>
> Oh Dear Me,,, WORRAFFAGOTWRONGNOW..
>
> Inexplicably,, they just could not find that man...
> Eggy face big time...
>
> An folks started pointin out the obvious
> inconvenient facts to thame cops...
>
> Like erm well,,, scuse me mister
> but two of thon girls spoke wi the killer
> and they don't reckon he was from Sunderland....
>
> victims shouted just as loudley,,
and said the killer was...
>
> NOT FROM SUNDERLAND
> NOT A SUNDERLAND MAN..
>
> Oh dear me ,,,
> NOT FROM SUNDERLAND
> NOT A SUNDERLAND MAN..
>
> what a muddle,, it do make me poor head hurt,,,
>
> Two different lines of reasoning,,
> what one will i choose...
>
Well it aint an eeny meenie miny mo
>
> Two different lines of reasoning,,
> what one will i choose...
>
situation because the facts stand regardless
of whether they appear to contradict one an other...
Better to wipe the board clean and chew things
over again...
I see things a different way,,, I couldin reverse engineer a
micro chip but this seems a similar problem...
When you appreciate that the cops did not go off
and scour Sunderland bare for that man
without very good reason...
When you appreciate that three accurate predictions of death
simply cannot be a hoax...
One might ask what the letters and tape did,,??
What message did they send,,???
Was the killer not saying rather too loudly
"I'm from Sunderland"
"I'm from Sunderland"
And then they could not find him
despite everything they knew about him...
Well that situation does not change any of the facts
but it does present a problem...
People who thought the voice would have been recognised in days
when the tape was released,, were now seriously
concerned because the man had not been found,,,
And they started shoutin the tape must be a hoax
because you cant find him...
SUPER-HOAXER,,, who was later to become
SUTTYS-SUPER-SUNDERLAND-BUM-CHUM
Was now flavour of the moment,,,
and bandied about while cops
kept quiet about the first letters
and the triangular weapon and the oils
was forgotten too...
Yeah,, a growing public disquiet while
the cops kept quiet...
ROW-RAH-ROW-RAH..
An the facts sat there quietly,,
overlooked in the noise of the day
poor neglected creatures,,
waiting only to be understood...
Well,, the conflicts of Oldfield,s
case can be reconciled if you look again...
A serial killer sent those letters and tape to
the Police,, and they chased their tails
round Sunderland till everyone lost faith
in them...
Facts don't change
just cos you can't find what you think you look for...
They was always just sitting there larffing
at all youse thrashin about...
And...
Eanni meanie miny mo nonsense..
A good place to start
would be to listen to that tape again,,,
(the original unedited version)...
And then have a good long look at the
envelope it came in and recognise
and see for yourselves what a
shady package it all was...
Yeah,,
when acknowledged for the suspicious
bundle the tape and the envelope it arrived in,,
actually was....
Tie a piece of string round your finger
to remind yourself,,,,
the facts of three accurate predictions
and the various forensic links
stand proud,,,
regardless of their fishy pong...
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/?action=view¤t=DecidedlyDodgy.jpg
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/?action=view¤t=Produce.mp4
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/
...................................................................................
Rupert Bear
Mar 23, 2012, 6:57:53 AM3/23/12
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On Mar 23, 8:19 am, Rupert Bear <nutherpercept...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Mar 16, 4:32 pm, Rupert Bear <nutherpercept...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
..........
> On Mar 16, 4:32 pm, Rupert Bear <nutherpercept...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> > > Well,,
>
> I see things a different way,,, I couldin reverse engineer a
> micro chip but this seems a similar problem...
>
> When you appreciate that the cops did not go off
> and scour Sunderland bare for that man
> without very good reason...
>
> When you appreciate that three accurate predictions of death
> simply cannot be a hoax...
>
> One might ask what the letters and tape did,,??
> What message did they send,,???
>
> Was the killer not saying rather too loudly
> "I'm from Sunderland"
> "I'm from Sunderland"
>
> And then they could not find him
> despite everything they knew about him...
>
> Well that situation does not change any of the facts
> but it does present a problem...
>
> Tie a piece of string round your finger
> to remind yourself,,,,
> the facts of three accurate predictions
> and the various forensic links
> stand proud,,,
> regardless of their fishy wiff...
> Tie a piece of string round your finger
> to remind yourself,,,,
> the facts of three accurate predictions
> and the various forensic links
> stand proud,,,
>
Look at the source of the information...
Everything that said he was a Sunderland man came from
the serial killer...
Everything that said he was not a Sundeland man
came from the victims of that serial killer....
Tug on yer peice of string again.,,,
and ask where is the error,,,?
Who do I believe... ?
Believe the facts...
Letters were sent from Sunderland...
A Sunderland mans voice on a tape
arrived from Sunderland....
But the surviving girls had not spoken to a Sunderland man....
Which do you trust..
None should be dismissed,,,
What is the answer to the riddle...
Think for yourselves ,,,
they were looking for a ruthless
serial killer you know..
Try this.. idea..
http://media.photobucket.com/image/wearside%20jack/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/WeDidntLookForDeaduns.jpg?o=2
>
> ...................................................................................
Rupert Bear
Mar 25, 2012, 11:08:37 PM3/25/12
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On Mar 23, 9:19 am,
> regardless of their fishy smell...
......
"My purpose is to rid the streets of them sluts"
He said this in his first letter to Oldfield from Sunderland....
An when thame first letters
from Sunderland,
were not publicly acknowledged...
What happened next,,,
He started killing respectable girls,,,
After sending another warning letter from Sunderland...
A moralistic mission,,,
versus,,
Im tellin ya,, I'm from Sunderland...
Well a moralistic crusade might have been
the motive at the start....
But what was more important to the author/s at the end,,
The moralising approach was sacrificed,,,,
And the..
Sunderland Sunderland,,
Im from way here...
come an get me..
Message took priority...
And then they could not find that man...
Surprise surprise....
The cops did the work that had to be done...
Because that voice most certainly did
belong to a Sunderland man....
But what was most important to the killer/s
of twelve...
Moralistic campaign,,
Boasting and teasing,,
Or not getting caught and leading a life
without fear of discovery....
Leading the cops of to a blind alley
In Sunderland,, fits best....
And when you look and listen
and think about very suspicious package again..
One can see that there is nothing new in the tape
that could not have been written
at the same time as that third letter was...
One can seen that he reference to the
close shave wi thon Hooker an
cops at the end of the lane,,
was conceived at an earlier time
to add credibility to the tape...
And then look again at the envelope it arrived in
and imagine a couple at the height of their daring do,,,
Taking turns,,
Sitting at a table addressing the envelope,,
They din want any more looking for them
So they disguised their printing as much as possible
and sent them a Sunderland voice to look for....
Who do you think was a motivating and a thinking
all that out...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SyB5D7GRCI
..............................................................
>
> Facts don't change
> just cos you can't find what you think you look for...
>
> They was always just sitting there larffing
> at all youse all thrashin about...
> Facts don't change
> just cos you can't find what you think you look for...
>
> They was always just sitting there larffing
> And...
> Eanni meanie miny mo nonsense..
>
> A good place to start
> would be to listen to that tape again,,,
> (the original unedited version)...
>
> And then have a good long look at the
> envelope it came in and recognise
> and see for yourselves what a
> shady package it all was...
>
> Yeah,,
> when acknowledged for the suspicious
> bundle the tape and the envelope it arrived in,,
> actually was....
>
> Tie a piece of string round your finger
> to remind yourself,,,,
> the facts of three accurate predictions
> and the various forensic links
> still stand proud and alone,,,
> Eanni meanie miny mo nonsense..
>
> A good place to start
> would be to listen to that tape again,,,
> (the original unedited version)...
>
> And then have a good long look at the
> envelope it came in and recognise
> and see for yourselves what a
> shady package it all was...
>
> Yeah,,
> when acknowledged for the suspicious
> bundle the tape and the envelope it arrived in,,
> actually was....
>
> Tie a piece of string round your finger
> to remind yourself,,,,
> the facts of three accurate predictions
> and the various forensic links
> regardless of their fishy smell...
......
"My purpose is to rid the streets of them sluts"
He said this in his first letter to Oldfield from Sunderland....
An when thame first letters
from Sunderland,
were not publicly acknowledged...
What happened next,,,
He started killing respectable girls,,,
After sending another warning letter from Sunderland...
A moralistic mission,,,
versus,,
Im tellin ya,, I'm from Sunderland...
Well a moralistic crusade might have been
the motive at the start....
But what was more important to the author/s at the end,,
The moralising approach was sacrificed,,,,
And the..
Sunderland Sunderland,,
Im from way here...
come an get me..
Message took priority...
And then they could not find that man...
Surprise surprise....
The cops did the work that had to be done...
Because that voice most certainly did
belong to a Sunderland man....
But what was most important to the killer/s
of twelve...
Moralistic campaign,,
Boasting and teasing,,
Or not getting caught and leading a life
without fear of discovery....
Leading the cops of to a blind alley
In Sunderland,, fits best....
And when you look and listen
and think about very suspicious package again..
One can see that there is nothing new in the tape
that could not have been written
at the same time as that third letter was...
One can seen that he reference to the
close shave wi thon Hooker an
cops at the end of the lane,,
was conceived at an earlier time
to add credibility to the tape...
And then look again at the envelope it arrived in
and imagine a couple at the height of their daring do,,,
Taking turns,,
Sitting at a table addressing the envelope,,
They din want any more looking for them
So they disguised their printing as much as possible
and sent them a Sunderland voice to look for....
Who do you think was a motivating and a thinking
all that out...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SyB5D7GRCI
..............................................................
Rupert Bear
Mar 25, 2012, 11:38:13 PM3/25/12
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and very calculated device to lead the cops
AWAY....
What's more,, it worked like a dream,,,
all they had to do after that was kill another girl
and that Geordie tape was played on the telly,,,
AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN...
He/they could sit down next to folks and
talk to them about it,, and get a thrill..
Or suss out iffen they were suspicious...
All he/they had to do was kill another girl...
I have the letters and tape posted here,,,
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/
Think about it yous selves...
You'll not read it in the papers...
............................................................
Old Jinglebollocks
Mar 26, 2012, 5:56:02 AM3/26/12
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On Mar 26, 4:38 am, Rupert Bear <nutherpercept...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Taking turns,,
> > Sitting at a table addressing the envelope,,
>
---------
>
> > Taking turns,,
> > Sitting at a table addressing the envelope,,
>
> > So they disguised their printing as much as possible
> > and sent them a Sunderland voice to look for....
>
================
> > and sent them a Sunderland voice to look for....
>
OK, I accept that you, along with Mr Noel O'Gara, are the two foremost
authorities on the Yorkshire Ripper Cover-up.
I'm slowing down a bit.
As for which of you is quicker on the draw,
well, as John Wayne used to say -
I'd hate to have to live on the difference.
Old Jinglebollocks
Mar 26, 2012, 1:39:01 PM3/26/12
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article622475.ece
Sonia McCann's face.
There must have been some way to help her.
Sonia McCann's face.
There must have been some way to help her.
Rupert Bear
Mar 26, 2012, 11:24:47 PM3/26/12
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On Mar 26, 10:56 am, Old Jinglebollocks <old.jinglebollo...@gmail.com>
wrote:
.......................................
> > > So they disguised their printing as much as possible
> > > and sent them a Sunderland voice to look for....
>
> ================
>
die on the difference....
I think you would learn pretty quick,,
.............................................................
wrote:
.......................................
>
> > > Taking turns,,
> > > Sitting at a table addressing the envelope,,
>
>They didn't want any more looking for them,,
> > > Taking turns,,
> > > Sitting at a table addressing the envelope,,
>
> > > So they disguised their printing as much as possible
> > > and sent them a Sunderland voice to look for....
>
> ================
>
> I'd hate to have to live on the difference.
Well if you ever found yourself in a situation where might
die on the difference....
I think you would learn pretty quick,,
.............................................................
Rupert Bear.
Apr 11, 2012, 12:54:10 AM4/11/12
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new,,Yorkshire Ripper case...
I took my own advice and had we look an think again....
Jeeso,, I think Humble needs a sex change,,,
(I know a handy Urologist for the unnecessary job)
It was a wumun what wrote those letters,
I aluss said it was a wumins story...
See here,,, it was Petes wife who wrote
those letters...
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/Ruperts%20Box/?action=view¤t=SeenSunderland.jpg
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/Ruperts%20Box/
I confess to having no abilities with pen and paper,,
an slow to appreciate the possibilities of
clever girls handwriting....
Check out Ruperts box on photobucket..
I found the thing that works
everything out right...
His wife wrote the letters..
Nuther..
.............
Rupert Bear.
Apr 17, 2012, 2:39:12 AM4/17/12
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On Apr 11, 5:54 am, "Rupert Bear." <nutherpercept...@yahoo.co.uk>
HIS WIFE WROTE THE LETTERS..
Struggling to believe i missed it all this time...
She was very clever with her handwriting...
I find it hard to believe a woman could have wrote those letters
but the handwriting matches I am finding now are very convincing..
It does not alter my general scenario about a couple being
responsible
for the Yorkshire ripper series of murders...
It just means the ladies involvement was greater than i suspected...
I have published extracts of her letters here...
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/Ruperts%20Box/?action=view¤t=SoSorry.jpg
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/Ruperts%20Box/
Nuther..
>
> His wife wrote the letters..
>
> Nuther..
>
> .............
Well Im not gonna take that statement back...
> His wife wrote the letters..
>
> Nuther..
>
> .............
HIS WIFE WROTE THE LETTERS..
Struggling to believe i missed it all this time...
She was very clever with her handwriting...
I find it hard to believe a woman could have wrote those letters
but the handwriting matches I am finding now are very convincing..
It does not alter my general scenario about a couple being
responsible
for the Yorkshire ripper series of murders...
It just means the ladies involvement was greater than i suspected...
I have published extracts of her letters here...
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/Ruperts%20Box/?action=view¤t=SoSorry.jpg
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/Ruperts%20Box/
Nuther..
Old Jinglebollocks
Apr 30, 2012, 7:47:32 AM4/30/12
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> It says a lot about the way we are here in England, if there is no
> demand for 'habeus corpus' in the case of the disappearance of John
> Humble.
> This is scary.
> If John Humble can disappear in England, so can you.
==========================================================
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20I...
I accept that you make a good case there regarding the handwriting.
But nobody wants to know.
The Yorkshire Ripper Cover-up is actually a good lesson in human
psychology.
The consequences of facing up to the truth about the Yorkshire Ripper
Cover-up are too terrible to allow into consciousness.
"To know and not to know" - as Immanuel Velikovsky put it.
-----------------------
FAKE SMILES AT THE FAKE PRESS CONFERENCE /
GEORGE IS DELIGHTED AS WELL..........
THE LAUNCH OF THE FAKE AXIOM,
THE PETER SUTCLIFFE MYTH:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zcxudS-hrc
> demand for 'habeus corpus' in the case of the disappearance of John
> Humble.
> This is scary.
> If John Humble can disappear in England, so can you.
==========================================================
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20I...
I accept that you make a good case there regarding the handwriting.
But nobody wants to know.
The Yorkshire Ripper Cover-up is actually a good lesson in human
psychology.
The consequences of facing up to the truth about the Yorkshire Ripper
Cover-up are too terrible to allow into consciousness.
"To know and not to know" - as Immanuel Velikovsky put it.
-----------------------
FAKE SMILES AT THE FAKE PRESS CONFERENCE /
GEORGE IS DELIGHTED AS WELL..........
THE LAUNCH OF THE FAKE AXIOM,
THE PETER SUTCLIFFE MYTH:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zcxudS-hrc
Rupert Bear
Apr 30, 2012, 10:00:54 AM4/30/12
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On Apr 30, 12:47 pm, Old Jinglebollocks
> -----------------------
> FAKE SMILES AT THE FAKE PRESS CONFERENCE /
> GEORGE IS DELIGHTED AS WELL..........
> THE LAUNCH OF THE FAKE AXIOM,
> THE PETER SUTCLIFFE MYTH:http:/
Here,, try this version for a change...
They tried to get that same message across
on the DVD.......
http://tinyurl.com/ckjkqmf
.............................................
Handwriting,,,,,unlike,,,,, being told there is DNA,,,,
is something you see and judge for yourselves...
Have a look here... http://tinyurl.com/dy47256
I made a mistake quite some time ago,,,
I underestimated the possibilities of
the spouse's handwriting abilities..
Yorkie Boy,,
like many other guys let her do all the writing..
No wonder i could not get him/them lifted way back in 1980...
Look here,,
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/Ruperts%20Box/
My mother hoarded her letters all those years..
................................................................
> -----------------------
> FAKE SMILES AT THE FAKE PRESS CONFERENCE /
> GEORGE IS DELIGHTED AS WELL..........
> THE LAUNCH OF THE FAKE AXIOM,
> THE PETER SUTCLIFFE MYTH:http:/
They tried to get that same message across
on the DVD.......
http://tinyurl.com/ckjkqmf
.............................................
Handwriting,,,,,unlike,,,,, being told there is DNA,,,,
is something you see and judge for yourselves...
Have a look here... http://tinyurl.com/dy47256
I made a mistake quite some time ago,,,
I underestimated the possibilities of
the spouse's handwriting abilities..
Yorkie Boy,,
like many other guys let her do all the writing..
No wonder i could not get him/them lifted way back in 1980...
Look here,,
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/Ruperts%20Box/
My mother hoarded her letters all those years..
................................................................
Tom
May 1, 2012, 10:57:43 AM5/1/12
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On Apr 30, 3:00 pm, Rupert Bear <nutherpercept...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Apr 30, 12:47 pm, Old Jinglebollocks
>
> > -----------------------
> > FAKE SMILES AT THE FAKE PRESS CONFERENCE /
>
====================
> On Apr 30, 12:47 pm, Old Jinglebollocks
>
> > -----------------------
> > FAKE SMILES AT THE FAKE PRESS CONFERENCE /
>
That is quite interesting. It is a dramatisation, with Alun Armstrong
(?) playing the role of George Oldfield.
It sticks very close to the historical record, but should be treated
with caution as there may be 'poetic licence' there in some scenes.
In its representation of the FAKE PRESS CONFERENCE, it's almost as if
the producer/scriptwriter knew the truth and wanted to emphasise it,
to compensate a little for the terrible injustice that has been done
in the Yorkshire Ripper Cover-up / Peter Sutcliffe Myth...........or
perhaps it was a 'Freudian slip' on the producer's
part .............when he portrayed the fake smiles and the 'George is
delighted as well' piece even more emphatically than in the real
historical record.
http://tinyurl.com/dy47256
Tom
May 1, 2012, 11:02:43 AM5/1/12
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Sorry, gave the wrong link for the video. I hope this is the one:
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Two%20and%20Two/?action=view¤t=DeleightedVideo.mp4
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Two%20and%20Two/?action=view¤t=DeleightedVideo.mp4
Special Care
May 1, 2012, 11:12:35 AM5/1/12
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http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Two%20and%20Two/?action=view¤t=DeleightedVideo.mp4
POOR OLD OLDFIELD
WORKED IN A COLD FIELD
HOBSON HAS NO CHOICE
MISLED BY A VOICE
RELEASE OF DRURY
AROUSES FURY
BRADFORD WAS NOT ME
BUT JUST WAIT AND SEE
SHEFFIELD WILL NOT BE MISSED
NEXT ON THE LIST
==================================
Reproduced from archive:
NEW DAWN IN THE WEST RIDING
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
THE ORDINARY MEN AND WOMEN OF THE WEST RIDING WOKE TO A BRIGHT
SUNSHINE STREAMING FROM A CLEAR BLUE SKY. IT LASTED ALL DAY, AS IF
SYMBOLISING THE END OF A DARK AGE OF FEAR."
Thus spoke so eloquently the editorial column of the Daily Express in
the days following the arrest of Peter Sutcliffe. Very few people
disagreed at the time.
*The Yorkshire Ripper cover up* teaches us many things, including the
degree to which we take our beliefs from the media.
There was no new dawn for "the men and women of the West Riding."
It was all in Ronald Gregory's imagination.
The Yorkshire Ripper continued killing. But from then on, his murders
were "new ripper" or "imitation ripper" - while the people of the
West
Riding all heaved a sigh of relief and believed what they wanted to
believe.
This searing, hidden, collective emotional wound will continue to
afflict and torment "the men and women of the West Riding," until we
finally confront and resolve *the Yorkshire Ripper cover up* .
http://yorkshireripper.com/sundaytimes.htm
http://www.yorkshireripper.co.uk/hyper/win-005.htm
=============================================
WEST YORKSHIRE POLICE
Their own statements - before and after Peter Sutcliffe's arrest -
confirm that there were not one but two men committing the
series of killings associated with 'The Yorkshire Ripper'
====================
'We must now face the very real possibility that there is a
second man preying on women."
-Detective Chief Superintendent Lapish, Bradford C.I.D. 1978
--------------------------
"Yvonne 'a victim of the carbon-copy Ripper
by Stephen Oldfield
A second Ripper was being hunted by police last night.
The crazed killer is thought to have set himself up as a rival
to the man who has already killed seven girls.
So far he is known to have murdered Yvonne Pearson whose
battered body was found in Bradford on Sunday.
A pathologist who examined all the good-time girls murdered by
the Ripper told police yesterday: "She is not his eighth
victim.""
-Daily Mail, 28 March 1978
--------------------------
"Detective Chief Superintendent Jim Hobson arrived to take charge of
the enquiry...... Next day, armed with the autopsy report, Mr Hobson
was able to tell the Press: 'I am satisfied the woman's death [Margo
Walls, 1980] was in no way connected with the Ripper killings.'"
-from "The Yorkshire Ripper Story" by John Beattie, 1981.
--------------------------
"Another Maniac At Large - Police doubt Ripper link in
student's murder."
Police last night feared a second maniac was at large in West
Yorkshire, the stalking ground of the infamous Yorkshire
Ripper, after the murder of a 29-year-old student in Leeds.
Ripper Squad detectives were called in when the body of Miss
Jacqueline Hill was found.......
Det. Supt. Alf Finlay, who is leading the inquiry into Miss
Hill's death, said: "There is no evidence at the moment to link
this death with the so-called Yorkshire Ripper. We have not
ruled him out yet, but we have nothing to suggest it's him.
Earlier in the day, Det. Chief Supt. Peter Gilrain head of the
Ripper inquiry, visited the murder scene and said later: "This
is not my investigation. Someone else is handling it."
-Yorkshire Post, 19-11-1980
--------------------------
"Oldfield conceded to us that there is not one Ripper, but at
least two."
- Sunday Times 'Insight.' 1980
--------------------------
"I agree with your premise that Sutcliffe was not responsible
for all the murders."
-Ian Smith, Editor of Chief Constable Ronald Gregory's Memoirs, 1983
--------------------------
"It was known in the top echelons of the police that two men
were involved in the series of murders."
-R.J.P. Warren, Deputy Chairman of West Yorkshire Police Authority,
1989.
--------------------------
"I don't think now that Sutcliffe did all the killings he
confessed to."
-Brian Marriner, author of 'A century of Sex Killers.'
--------------------------
http://yorkshireripper.com/sundaytimes.htm
http://www.yorkshireripper.co.uk/hyper/win-005.htm
POOR OLD OLDFIELD
WORKED IN A COLD FIELD
HOBSON HAS NO CHOICE
MISLED BY A VOICE
RELEASE OF DRURY
AROUSES FURY
BRADFORD WAS NOT ME
BUT JUST WAIT AND SEE
SHEFFIELD WILL NOT BE MISSED
NEXT ON THE LIST
==================================
Reproduced from archive:
NEW DAWN IN THE WEST RIDING
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
THE ORDINARY MEN AND WOMEN OF THE WEST RIDING WOKE TO A BRIGHT
SUNSHINE STREAMING FROM A CLEAR BLUE SKY. IT LASTED ALL DAY, AS IF
SYMBOLISING THE END OF A DARK AGE OF FEAR."
Thus spoke so eloquently the editorial column of the Daily Express in
the days following the arrest of Peter Sutcliffe. Very few people
disagreed at the time.
*The Yorkshire Ripper cover up* teaches us many things, including the
degree to which we take our beliefs from the media.
There was no new dawn for "the men and women of the West Riding."
It was all in Ronald Gregory's imagination.
The Yorkshire Ripper continued killing. But from then on, his murders
were "new ripper" or "imitation ripper" - while the people of the
West
Riding all heaved a sigh of relief and believed what they wanted to
believe.
This searing, hidden, collective emotional wound will continue to
afflict and torment "the men and women of the West Riding," until we
finally confront and resolve *the Yorkshire Ripper cover up* .
http://yorkshireripper.com/sundaytimes.htm
http://www.yorkshireripper.co.uk/hyper/win-005.htm
=============================================
WEST YORKSHIRE POLICE
Their own statements - before and after Peter Sutcliffe's arrest -
confirm that there were not one but two men committing the
series of killings associated with 'The Yorkshire Ripper'
====================
'We must now face the very real possibility that there is a
second man preying on women."
-Detective Chief Superintendent Lapish, Bradford C.I.D. 1978
--------------------------
"Yvonne 'a victim of the carbon-copy Ripper
by Stephen Oldfield
A second Ripper was being hunted by police last night.
The crazed killer is thought to have set himself up as a rival
to the man who has already killed seven girls.
So far he is known to have murdered Yvonne Pearson whose
battered body was found in Bradford on Sunday.
A pathologist who examined all the good-time girls murdered by
the Ripper told police yesterday: "She is not his eighth
victim.""
-Daily Mail, 28 March 1978
--------------------------
"Detective Chief Superintendent Jim Hobson arrived to take charge of
the enquiry...... Next day, armed with the autopsy report, Mr Hobson
was able to tell the Press: 'I am satisfied the woman's death [Margo
Walls, 1980] was in no way connected with the Ripper killings.'"
-from "The Yorkshire Ripper Story" by John Beattie, 1981.
--------------------------
"Another Maniac At Large - Police doubt Ripper link in
student's murder."
Police last night feared a second maniac was at large in West
Yorkshire, the stalking ground of the infamous Yorkshire
Ripper, after the murder of a 29-year-old student in Leeds.
Ripper Squad detectives were called in when the body of Miss
Jacqueline Hill was found.......
Det. Supt. Alf Finlay, who is leading the inquiry into Miss
Hill's death, said: "There is no evidence at the moment to link
this death with the so-called Yorkshire Ripper. We have not
ruled him out yet, but we have nothing to suggest it's him.
Earlier in the day, Det. Chief Supt. Peter Gilrain head of the
Ripper inquiry, visited the murder scene and said later: "This
is not my investigation. Someone else is handling it."
-Yorkshire Post, 19-11-1980
--------------------------
"Oldfield conceded to us that there is not one Ripper, but at
least two."
- Sunday Times 'Insight.' 1980
--------------------------
"I agree with your premise that Sutcliffe was not responsible
for all the murders."
-Ian Smith, Editor of Chief Constable Ronald Gregory's Memoirs, 1983
--------------------------
"It was known in the top echelons of the police that two men
were involved in the series of murders."
-R.J.P. Warren, Deputy Chairman of West Yorkshire Police Authority,
1989.
--------------------------
"I don't think now that Sutcliffe did all the killings he
confessed to."
-Brian Marriner, author of 'A century of Sex Killers.'
--------------------------
http://yorkshireripper.com/sundaytimes.htm
http://www.yorkshireripper.co.uk/hyper/win-005.htm
The Universal Infant
May 3, 2012, 9:22:49 AM5/3/12
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It wont go away - the Yorkshire Ripper Cover-up and related matters
such as THE DISAPPEARANCE OF JOHN HUMBLE.
The English people will have to confront this some time.
It's terribly embarrassing, that we are all so easily brainwashed by
anything that is printed in a newspaper or spoken by a corrupt
criminal policeman such as Ronald Gregory.
GEORGE IS DELIGHTED TOO?
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Two%20and%20Two/?action=view¤t=DeleightedVideo.mp4
such as THE DISAPPEARANCE OF JOHN HUMBLE.
The English people will have to confront this some time.
It's terribly embarrassing, that we are all so easily brainwashed by
anything that is printed in a newspaper or spoken by a corrupt
criminal policeman such as Ronald Gregory.
GEORGE IS DELIGHTED TOO?
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Two%20and%20Two/?action=view¤t=DeleightedVideo.mp4
Tom
May 5, 2012, 7:21:55 AM5/5/12
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On May 3, 4:02 pm, Rupert Bear <nutherpercept...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> but cannot do very much about it...
>
----------------------------------------------------------------
Would the Freedom of Information Act apply to finding out the
whereabouts of a prisoner who has disappeared?
It wouldn't really help, I suppose............. just naming some
mental hospital.............
> On Apr 30, 11:49 am, Tom <special.car...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > It says a lot about the way we are here in England, if there is no
> > > demand for 'habeus corpus' in the case of the disappearance of John
> > > Humble.
>
> > > This is scary.
>
> > > If John Humble can disappear in England, so can you.
>
> > ======================
>
>
> > > It says a lot about the way we are here in England, if there is no
> > > demand for 'habeus corpus' in the case of the disappearance of John
> > > Humble.
>
> > > This is scary.
>
> > > If John Humble can disappear in England, so can you.
>
> > ======================
>
> >http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20I...
>
> > I accept that you make a good case there regarding the handwriting.
>
> > But nobody wants to know.
>
> I think there are some people who do want to know,,,
>
> > I accept that you make a good case there regarding the handwriting.
>
> > But nobody wants to know.
>
> but cannot do very much about it...
>
----------------------------------------------------------------
Would the Freedom of Information Act apply to finding out the
whereabouts of a prisoner who has disappeared?
It wouldn't really help, I suppose............. just naming some
mental hospital.............
Special Care
May 5, 2012, 7:29:06 AM5/5/12
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But then we could apply to visit John Humble.
It should not have happened.
There was no evidence against John.
The low copy DNA is discredited and is being rejected by intelligent
judges.
The silence is deafening, but I've observed since the 1980s that
'civil liberties' groups etc. are part of the establishment,
orchestrating the fake debates which are the glue that holds our fake
civilisation together, and so 'civil liberties' groups are very
selective about which 'cause' they will espouse.
The disappearance of John Humble and the farce that was his arrest and
trial are a Forbidden Subject.
Paul Cummins
May 6, 2012, 2:04:00 PM5/6/12
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We were about to embark at Dover, when special...@gmail.com (Special
Care) came up to me and whispered:
> The disappearance of John Humble
Was at his request when released from Prison silently.
--
Paul Cummins - Always a NetHead
Wasting Bandwidth since 1981
IF you think this http://bit.ly/u5EP3p is cruel
please sign this http://bit.ly/sKkzEx
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Care) came up to me and whispered:
> The disappearance of John Humble
--
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Wasting Bandwidth since 1981
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Special Care
May 24, 2012, 8:41:49 AM5/24/12
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We're still left with a major contradiction.
John Humble is newsworthy.
The older generation in England and elsewhere are acutely conscious of
the menacing tape and letters sent to the West Yorkshire Police during
the Yorkshire Ripper 'enquiry.'
He was due to be released after serving half his sentence.
Then total silence.
Newspaper editors want to sell newspapers by printing what is of
interest to the public.
The media blackout on John Humble has made the story a thousand times
more fascinating.
Still the silence persists.
Human rights campaigners in England will not touch the story, because
it threatens their FAKE AXIOMS and their FAKE DEBATES and their cosy
status as harmless *talking heads* in the media!
The disappearance of John Humble is too REAL for the liking of our
heroic *talking heads*.
It's safe to say the Yorkshire Ripper is dead by now.
And John Humble is forever lost, forever gone.
The fact that nobody cares about the disappearance of John Humble
should make you all very afraid of living in a place such as England.
If John Humble can disappear, so can you.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22DUclUZiX4&feature=related
John Humble is newsworthy.
The older generation in England and elsewhere are acutely conscious of
the menacing tape and letters sent to the West Yorkshire Police during
the Yorkshire Ripper 'enquiry.'
He was due to be released after serving half his sentence.
Then total silence.
Newspaper editors want to sell newspapers by printing what is of
interest to the public.
The media blackout on John Humble has made the story a thousand times
more fascinating.
Still the silence persists.
Human rights campaigners in England will not touch the story, because
it threatens their FAKE AXIOMS and their FAKE DEBATES and their cosy
status as harmless *talking heads* in the media!
The disappearance of John Humble is too REAL for the liking of our
heroic *talking heads*.
It's safe to say the Yorkshire Ripper is dead by now.
And John Humble is forever lost, forever gone.
The fact that nobody cares about the disappearance of John Humble
should make you all very afraid of living in a place such as England.
If John Humble can disappear, so can you.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22DUclUZiX4&feature=related
Paul Cummins
May 24, 2012, 8:54:00 AM5/24/12
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We were about to embark at Dover, when special...@gmail.com (Special
Care) came up to me and whispered:
Care) came up to me and whispered:
> If John Humble can disappear, so can you.
John Humble hasn't disappeared. At his own request, his release was kept
confidential.
How many times does this need to be said before you'll listen?
Special Care
May 24, 2012, 9:20:05 AM5/24/12
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On May 24, 1:54 pm, useth...@stedtelephone.invalid (Paul Cummins)
wrote:
---------------------------------------
If confidential, how would you know about it?
How could something like that be kept confidential when it is so
newsworthy?
Seems to me everybody in this country feels very insecure about
The Yorkshire Ripper Cover-up / The Disappearance of John Humble.
It threatens to shatter the paradigm of the type of society we think
we have here in England.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkSaYJg9gMU&feature=endscreen&NR=1
wrote:
>
> John Humble hasn't disappeared. At his own request, his release was kept
> confidential.
>
> Paul Cummins -
> John Humble hasn't disappeared. At his own request, his release was kept
> confidential.
>
---------------------------------------
If confidential, how would you know about it?
How could something like that be kept confidential when it is so
newsworthy?
Seems to me everybody in this country feels very insecure about
The Yorkshire Ripper Cover-up / The Disappearance of John Humble.
It threatens to shatter the paradigm of the type of society we think
we have here in England.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkSaYJg9gMU&feature=endscreen&NR=1
Rupert Bear
May 24, 2012, 10:11:00 AM5/24/12
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On May 24, 1:54 pm, useth...@stedtelephone.invalid (Paul Cummins)
wrote:
> We were about to embark at Dover, when special.car...@gmail.com (Special
wrote:
> Care) came up to me and whispered:
>
> > If John Humble can disappear, so can you.
>
> John Humble hasn't disappeared. At his own request, his release was kept
> confidential.
>
> How many times does this need to be said before you'll listen?
>
Quite possibly released under a James Bulger type of scenario....
>
> > If John Humble can disappear, so can you.
>
> John Humble hasn't disappeared. At his own request, his release was kept
> confidential.
>
> How many times does this need to be said before you'll listen?
>
But i do rather think he could go into any news room in the country
and claim he was rail-roaded,,,
AND NOT ONE WORD WOULD WE EVER HEAR
OR WOULD EVER BE PRINTED...
It is as Special C says,,,,
His,, (in effect) disappearance from al mans ken
Just adds more sauce to a very fishy pie....
....................................................................
Rupert Bear
May 24, 2012, 10:18:47 AM5/24/12
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somewhere in the Bermuda triangle by now..
For all we know...
..........................
Tom
May 26, 2012, 5:12:37 AM5/26/12
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1211217/Yorkshire-Ripper-hoaxer-Wearside-Jack-released-prison-weeks.html#ixzz0xT5PTPdD
That was about the last we heard in the media about John Humble.
The media silence since 2009 is - in itself - one of the most
newsworthy stories of our time.
It has to do with the nature of English society and how it works.
No mainstream civil liberties group will touch the John Humble fiasco
or the Peter Sutcliffe Myth, because if they mention any Forbidden
Subjects they will lose their status as 'talking heads' in the media,
and will be replaced by a more co-operative civil liberties group.
"Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition."
It's a fake civilisation with fake debates, avoiding forbidden
subjects. The worst culprits are the bogus civil liberties groups who
go along and co-operate with the ruling group as 'the other side of
the coin,' avoiding the forbidden subjects. These fake civil liberties
campaigners are no better than Gill Langley.
That was about the last we heard in the media about John Humble.
The media silence since 2009 is - in itself - one of the most
newsworthy stories of our time.
It has to do with the nature of English society and how it works.
No mainstream civil liberties group will touch the John Humble fiasco
or the Peter Sutcliffe Myth, because if they mention any Forbidden
Subjects they will lose their status as 'talking heads' in the media,
and will be replaced by a more co-operative civil liberties group.
"Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition."
It's a fake civilisation with fake debates, avoiding forbidden
subjects. The worst culprits are the bogus civil liberties groups who
go along and co-operate with the ruling group as 'the other side of
the coin,' avoiding the forbidden subjects. These fake civil liberties
campaigners are no better than Gill Langley.
Special Care
May 26, 2012, 6:14:39 AM5/26/12
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It's not difficult to be better than Gill Langley, though.
http://www.health-forums.com/alt-support-cancer-breast/vaccination-fraud-gill-langley-has-made-complete-fool-you-130983.html
http://www.health-forums.com/alt-support-cancer-breast/vaccination-fraud-gill-langley-has-made-complete-fool-you-130983.html
Special Care
May 26, 2012, 6:17:19 AM5/26/12
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Rupert Bear
May 28, 2012, 4:50:34 PM5/28/12
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On May 26, 10:12 am, Tom <special.car...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1211217/Yorkshire-Ripper-hoax...
place....
More to do with the control of state,,, Compliance of press..
Rhubarb an Custard rules.... Press dont even want to tell ,,
everyone they been lying for years either
even if they could....
......................................................................................
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1211217/Yorkshire-Ripper-hoax...
> That was about the last we heard in the media about John Humble.
>
> The media silence since 2009 is - in itself - one of the most
> newsworthy stories of our time.
>
> It has to do with the nature of English society and how it works.
>
> No mainstream civil liberties group will touch the John Humble fiasco
> or the Peter Sutcliffe Myth, because if they mention any Forbidden
> Subjects they will lose their status as 'talking heads' in the media,
> and will be replaced by a more co-operative civil liberties group.
> "Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition."
>
> It's a fake civilisation with fake debates, avoiding forbidden
> subjects. The worst culprits are the bogus civil liberties groups who
> go along and co-operate with the ruling group as 'the other side of
> the coin,' avoiding the forbidden subjects. These fake civil liberties
> campaigners are no better than Gill Langley.
Sometimes you is like the the Tom Cat pissing his smell about the
>
> The media silence since 2009 is - in itself - one of the most
> newsworthy stories of our time.
>
> It has to do with the nature of English society and how it works.
>
> No mainstream civil liberties group will touch the John Humble fiasco
> or the Peter Sutcliffe Myth, because if they mention any Forbidden
> Subjects they will lose their status as 'talking heads' in the media,
> and will be replaced by a more co-operative civil liberties group.
> "Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition."
>
> It's a fake civilisation with fake debates, avoiding forbidden
> subjects. The worst culprits are the bogus civil liberties groups who
> go along and co-operate with the ruling group as 'the other side of
> the coin,' avoiding the forbidden subjects. These fake civil liberties
> campaigners are no better than Gill Langley.
place....
More to do with the control of state,,, Compliance of press..
Rhubarb an Custard rules.... Press dont even want to tell ,,
everyone they been lying for years either
even if they could....
......................................................................................
Rupert Bear
May 28, 2012, 6:02:19 PM5/28/12
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On Apr 17, 7:39 am, "Rupert Bear." <solwaym...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 11, 5:54 am, "Rupert Bear." <nutherpercept...@yahoo.co.uk>
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> > His wife wrote the letters..
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> > Nuther..
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> > .............
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> Well Im not gonna take that statement back...
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> HIS WIFE WROTE THE LETTERS..
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> Struggling to believe i missed it all this time...
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> She was very clever with her handwriting...
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> I find it hard to believe a woman could have wrote those letters
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> but the handwriting matches I am finding now are very convincing..
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> It does not alter my general scenario about a couple being
> responsible
> for the Yorkshire ripper series of murders...
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> It just means the ladies involvement was greater than i suspected...
It seems a bit pointless now,,
> On Apr 11, 5:54 am, "Rupert Bear." <nutherpercept...@yahoo.co.uk>
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> > His wife wrote the letters..
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> > Nuther..
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> > .............
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> Well Im not gonna take that statement back...
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> HIS WIFE WROTE THE LETTERS..
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> Struggling to believe i missed it all this time...
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> She was very clever with her handwriting...
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> I find it hard to believe a woman could have wrote those letters
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> but the handwriting matches I am finding now are very convincing..
>
> It does not alter my general scenario about a couple being
> responsible
> for the Yorkshire ripper series of murders...
>
> It just means the ladies involvement was greater than i suspected...
To discover who really wrote those letters to Oldfield
and post proof of such..
Here..
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/Ruperts%20Box/
And nuthing happens...
Oh Well...
Somehow that does not surprise me...
But to continue with the logical progress...
Can you imagine getting in a car with another person
and then travelling seventy miles or so,,,
with the intention of killing another person completely at random...
And then driving back that distance together,,,
possibly discussing the pros and cons of their endeavours,,
with a dead girl lying in the mud many miles behind you...
What an aberration on society that is...
An I don't go for none of that nonce about wanting to change him
shite...
Ittal be more closer to home than that,,,
More like not wantin ever to be found out,,,
Probably stood up for him against her mum
or sumpthin,, said he was ok,, I luv him...
An like so many cannot admit to being wrong
or to their own wrongdoing...
What the hell went on in that garage in Preston could be the key...
The 1978 letters refer to Preston,,,
The first murder in 77 mimics Preston,,
(rearrangement of clothes,,murder scene)
The 79 Halifax letter/murder gives three positive links to that
Preston murder
( bite and blood and rearangement of boots an clothes) and
lures the investigation towards Sunderland...
The sender really has a bee in the bonnet about Preston...
Why Why Why....
Was it cos mummy knew they were going through
a bad time an he went off in a bad mood that night..
Or just maybe,,
she was the one wi the rare blood group .....
Sumpthin about Preston..
Either it was advantageous to associate with the
Yorkshire Ripper series...
Or maybe it was a weakness where she feared
discovery...
I do not believe the gonna change him idea...
Get away with it for good an all suits better,,
That first one in 77 deliberately set out to draw
similarity with the Preston murder scene...
She could have been sitting in that
Park Structure wi Max an sayin...
Naw,, she was abit more like that when we left her...
Afraid mummy would twig maybe,,
They did everything to associate Preston
wi Yorkshire Ripper...
Preston bugs me,, there was something important about it...
As far as the letter writer/killer/s are/were concerned...
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Rupert Bear
May 28, 2012, 6:22:23 PM5/28/12
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On May 28, 11:02 pm, Rupert Bear <nutherpercept...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Apr 17, 7:39 am, "Rupert Bear." <solwaym...@googlemail.com> wrote:
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> > On Apr 11, 5:54 am, "Rupert Bear." <nutherpercept...@yahoo.co.uk>
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> > > His wife wrote the letters..
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> > > Nuther..
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> > > .............
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> > Well Im not gonna take that statement back...
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> > HIS WIFE WROTE THE LETTERS..
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> > Struggling to believe i missed it all this time...
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> > She was very clever with her handwriting...
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> > I find it hard to believe a woman could have wrote those letters
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> > but the handwriting matches I am finding now are very convincing..
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> > It does not alter my general scenario about a couple being
> > responsible
> > for the Yorkshire ripper series of murders...
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> > It just means the ladies involvement was greater than i suspected...
>
> It seems a bit pointless now,,
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> To discover who really wrote those letters to Oldfield
> and post proof of such..
> Here..http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20I...
> On Apr 17, 7:39 am, "Rupert Bear." <solwaym...@googlemail.com> wrote:
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> > On Apr 11, 5:54 am, "Rupert Bear." <nutherpercept...@yahoo.co.uk>
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> > > His wife wrote the letters..
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> > > Nuther..
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> > > .............
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> > Well Im not gonna take that statement back...
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> > HIS WIFE WROTE THE LETTERS..
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> > Struggling to believe i missed it all this time...
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> > She was very clever with her handwriting...
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> > I find it hard to believe a woman could have wrote those letters
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> > but the handwriting matches I am finding now are very convincing..
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> > It does not alter my general scenario about a couple being
> > responsible
> > for the Yorkshire ripper series of murders...
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> > It just means the ladies involvement was greater than i suspected...
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> It seems a bit pointless now,,
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> To discover who really wrote those letters to Oldfield
> and post proof of such..
Tom
May 31, 2012, 9:12:31 AM5/31/12
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On May 28, 11:22 pm, Rupert Bear <nutherpercept...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > To discover who really wrote those letters to Oldfield
> > and post proof of such..
> > Here..http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20I...
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> > And nuthing happens...
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> > Oh Well...
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> > Somehow that does not surprise me...
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> > To discover who really wrote those letters to Oldfield
> > and post proof of such..
> > Here..http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20I...
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> > And nuthing happens...
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> > Oh Well...
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> > Somehow that does not surprise me...
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You've done a lot of good work there, and have got no response from
officialdom, not even from 'the greatest investigative writer in the
world,' who is too embarrassed about his own great blunder in not
seeing the reports throughout 1978-80 that there were two men doing
the killings, two separate M.O.s, two separate sets of trademarks, two
different bloodgroups.
How can people admit it after all this time? So many books and
newspaper articles have been written, all from the wrong starting
point - based on the FAKE AXIOM of the Peter Sutclifffe Myth.
How can all of these writers be idiots? How can 'the greatest
investigative writer in the world' be an idiot?
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There was a meeting in Leeds recently where a speaker asked the
audience - how many of you believe the official version of 9/11 and
7/7 ?
Out of a fairly large audience, only one person put up his hand.
So people are becoming more aware of the FAKE DEBATES.
The Yorkshire Ripper Cover-up / Peter Sutcliffe Myth ....and the
related John Humble fiasco........ these are
different........................ in that the official version has
been accepted without question for about thirty years by nearly
everybody............
So they've all gone so far down the wrong road that they find it too
embarrassing to admit their mistake and turn back.
Hence the silence with regard to your excellent work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22DUclUZiX4&feature=related
ala
Jun 1, 2012, 8:46:37 PM6/1/12
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"Rupert Bear" <nutherpe...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:a642fa23-537d-4c4f...@p27g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
>Sometimes you is like the the Tom Cat pissing his smell about the
>place....
>Lady State
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/22/the-church-lady-state/
By Timothy Egan, The New York Times
23 March 12
when people complain about liberal overreach they always bring up the nanny
state. You know, sorting your garbage to see if a banana peel slipped in
with a cellophane wrapper; energy-efficient light bulbs; neutered language
in the public square to make sure no one is ever offended.
But all of the above is a mere teardrop in the Amazon compared to what your
freedom-hating Republican Party has been doing across the land to restrict
individual liberty.
They want the state to follow you into the bedroom, the bathroom and beyond.
They think you're too stupid to know what to do with your own body, too
ignorant to understand what your doctors tell you and too lazy to be trusted
in a job without being subject to random drug testing. Your body is the
government's business.
Let's take a tour of the church lady state to date. Our nation may soon turn
its lonely eyes to Idaho, where Gov. Butch Otter could have the final say on
a bill that would order women to undergo a medically unnecessary and
invasive procedure before deciding to end a pregnancy.
This is the latest version of the mandatory ultrasound law, recently enacted
by Virginia and Texas. But the Idaho bill, which passed the State Senate on
Monday in a one-party Republican state, goes much further, and would subject
many women to invasive, trans-vaginal inspections.
Idaho politicians love to go on and on about how government shouldn't force
people to do things that violate their conscience, or common sense. And for
the last three years, we've heard Republican presidential candidates condemn
the abomination of government coming between you and your doctor.
But given a chance to govern without a sanity filter, these same Republicans
become Big Brother in a surgical smock.
In Idaho, almost one in five people have no health insurance. Except now the
Republican Legislature wants to force you to undergo at least one medical
procedure, no matter whether you have health care.
Compounding the lunacy of this reach into your family discussions, the
bill's main sponsor, State Senator Chuck Winder, suggested that rape victims
seeking exceptions might be lying about how they got pregnant.
He said women should ask their doctors if their pregnancy was caused by rape
or "normal relations in a marriage." And, yes, I hate to say it, but
politicians are that stupid and that mean-spirited in Idaho. Here's a leader
of the State Legislature suggesting that a woman is just too dumb to know
whether she was raped or not.
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Rupert Bear
Jun 2, 2012, 12:13:34 AM6/2/12
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On Jun 2, 1:46 am, "ala" <alackr...@comcast.net> wrote:
> "Rupert Bear" <nutherpercept...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
Errr...
Baffled,,
The ladys will always have false claim
thrown at them as a defence of rape...
Guys suffer from false accusation
on occasion....
My personal view is that rape
is at least legally acknowledged as a crime or assault
against a person....
Try arguin sumpthin that no one even
perceives as an assault or a crime,,, That
secretly changes the law as applied to you...
Just cos some compliant nodding Jeremy
has been advised by his or her peers.....
People co-operate blindly with authorities
and feel they do the right thing....
While sucking up big brother
in his (surgical smock )
They are used...
The Mad Hatter's Party
continues behind the pretty lace curtains,,
of respectability supposedly good intentions....
So willingly manipulated
you cant see the strings....
Bout time we had Miss Piggy an the
muppets back on't telly..
Thas what i say...
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> "Rupert Bear" <nutherpercept...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
Baffled,,
The ladys will always have false claim
thrown at them as a defence of rape...
Guys suffer from false accusation
on occasion....
My personal view is that rape
is at least legally acknowledged as a crime or assault
against a person....
Try arguin sumpthin that no one even
perceives as an assault or a crime,,, That
secretly changes the law as applied to you...
Just cos some compliant nodding Jeremy
has been advised by his or her peers.....
People co-operate blindly with authorities
and feel they do the right thing....
While sucking up big brother
in his (surgical smock )
They are used...
The Mad Hatter's Party
continues behind the pretty lace curtains,,
of respectability supposedly good intentions....
So willingly manipulated
you cant see the strings....
Bout time we had Miss Piggy an the
muppets back on't telly..
Thas what i say...
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Tom
Jun 2, 2012, 5:15:13 AM6/2/12
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> In Idaho, almost one in five people have no health insurance. Except now the
> Republican Legislature wants to force you to undergo at least one medical
> procedure, no matter whether you have health care.
>
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> Republican Legislature wants to force you to undergo at least one medical
> procedure, no matter whether you have health care.
>
I guess you mean vaccination.
The United States of America / USA =
Home of the Cowards, Land of the Unfree:
http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/vaccines-1/truly-scary-stuff.html
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/rattigan2.html
Tom
Jun 2, 2012, 5:25:58 AM6/2/12
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JUST SAY NO.
The "science" behind vaccination is garbage.
The consequences of getting it wrong are catastrophic.
The people pushing this the hardest are the same criminals who brought
you the Iraq War and the meltdown of the US economy through financial
fraud.
Just say "no" to being railroaded into allowing a dodgy set of
chemicals, metals, and live viruses injected into your blood stream by
venal idiots who have so little confidence in what they're doing they
won't participate without getting total legal immunity in advance.
If you or a loved one are crippled by this vaccine, you will shoulder
the burden yourself. The pharmaceutical companies and the government
have exempted themselves from all liability.
http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/vaccines-1/truly-scary-stuff.html
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/rattigan2.html
The "science" behind vaccination is garbage.
The consequences of getting it wrong are catastrophic.
The people pushing this the hardest are the same criminals who brought
you the Iraq War and the meltdown of the US economy through financial
fraud.
Just say "no" to being railroaded into allowing a dodgy set of
chemicals, metals, and live viruses injected into your blood stream by
venal idiots who have so little confidence in what they're doing they
won't participate without getting total legal immunity in advance.
If you or a loved one are crippled by this vaccine, you will shoulder
the burden yourself. The pharmaceutical companies and the government
have exempted themselves from all liability.
http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/vaccines-1/truly-scary-stuff.html
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/rattigan2.html
Rupert Bear
Jun 3, 2012, 9:35:54 PM6/3/12
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Wot don't unnerstand proper...
I'll tell you what I do understand....
She sat on my couch in 1980,,,,
and introduced talk into her conversation,,
in a seemingly innocent manner....
Talk about a rare blood type
regarding Pete or herself...
She was fiddling about with a bag on her knee
while she rattled on to me and my partner
an bored me silly...
An Pete sat quietly beside me.....
What if I had reacted or demonstrated an interest
in their blood types...
Did they have a plan for us,,,??
I would like to know,,?
Miss Lea and Miss Sykes were attacked soon after...
He failed on his own with the Urban Gorrilla/killer
method... It worked best wi her coming along...
In the big picture or grand scale of things,
What beat all thame cops was a clever girl
wot guided and turned Yorkie boy into little more
than Moriarty's muscle-man...
Im not big on chivalry..
Greater responsibility lies with the mind behind the plan
in my books...
The plan wot beat the cops for thirty years was hers...
A clever girl wrote those Yorkshire Ripper letters...
See here.. Her letters from 1976 are posted...
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/Ruperts%20Box/
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Rupert Bear
Jun 3, 2012, 10:03:55 PM6/3/12
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In 1980,, Pete said to me,,,
"you could go off somewhere and kill someone completely at random
and never get caught"
He was trying to start a conversation,, i did not know how to
respond...
Err,, well ,, they would probably get caught,, i said naively....
What da fxxx is one agonna say to that outta the blue....
Years later,, she sent me a xmas cards for a while....
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Rupert Bear
Jun 3, 2012, 11:07:24 PM6/3/12
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On Jun 4, 2:35 am, Rupert Bear <nutherpercept...@yahoo.
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> Im not big on chivalry..
> Greater responsibility lies with the mind behind the plan
> in my books...
> The mind wot beat the cops was hers...
> Greater responsibility lies with the mind behind the plan
> in my books...
>
> A clever girl wrote those Yorkshire Ripper letters...
>
> See here.. Her letters from 1976 are posted...
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> http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20I...
> A clever girl wrote those Yorkshire Ripper letters...
>
> See here.. Her letters from 1976 are posted...
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> ......................................................................
I bought Michael Nicholson's book
because he aroused my suspicions,,
whe he related a story about rolling himself
underneath a car to hide from skinheads in Leeds...
I bought that book because of things I knew about him,,
his nature,, my cousin.. I knew the boy,,!
And he lived a good seventy miles away from Leeds...
an had no reason to be there in the story he related...
Anso,, I went back to the shop an bought that book
cos something was a nigglin about him...
Criky,, it could be written about him I thought,,,
what wi her being from Preston an all...
So I went down to the phone box and
called the Geordie Tape number
and came back home thinking,,
what a dafty |i was for entertaining tha
suspicions about my cousin....
Naebuddy woulda gone to the cops on what I knew then,,,
I placed that book into my my bookshelf with the others
and vowed to have nothing more to do with it...
Cept things kept on niggling,,,
an she came up soon after and
rattled on about a rare blood type
one of them had,, don't know exactly what
she said cos I waren't listening proper...
But we was being checked out for sure,,
they re-acted to that book being placed in my bookshelf
in 1980,,, and it is a very hard thing to explain...
Fourteen months went by,, an when a book appeared
in my bookshelf in Southern Scotland,,
the Ripper case was re-awakened...
Thats the way it was though...
I was on guard wi a lump of something chuncky
thinkin he was a gonna come after me...
That night in 1980..
When miss hill was killed,,,
Five days after i travelled
to Leeds Incident room
trying to get him lifted...
He warent a Geordie,,
or even from Yorkshire,,
an I was from Scotland,,
A dumb fuck wot read a book....
Yea,, they seen them all in Leeds..
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Special Care
Jun 6, 2012, 6:24:17 AM6/6/12
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I know you have made a serious and valuable contrubution to the
discussion on The Yorkshire Ripper Cover-up.
You deserve acknowledgement for that.
The Yorkshire Ripper Cover-up / Peter Sutcliffe Myth / John Humble
Fiasco..........
is too embarrassing for most people's sensitivities.
This is England.
The English police don't do that..............
...eh.......do they?...........................
They'll not face its shame in this generation.
Only later, if our civilisation holds together for a while longer.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22DUclUZiX4&feature=related
discussion on The Yorkshire Ripper Cover-up.
You deserve acknowledgement for that.
The Yorkshire Ripper Cover-up / Peter Sutcliffe Myth / John Humble
Fiasco..........
is too embarrassing for most people's sensitivities.
This is England.
The English police don't do that..............
...eh.......do they?...........................
They'll not face its shame in this generation.
Only later, if our civilisation holds together for a while longer.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22DUclUZiX4&feature=related
Special Care
Jun 6, 2012, 6:43:29 AM6/6/12
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22DUclUZiX4&feature=related
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.irish/msg/c650136d5fe07035?hl=en
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.local.geordie/msg/f270bf37f169136d?hl=en
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.legal/browse_thread/thread/2b9352fae3f96ae7/a823e38ed756f306?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=original+tape+wearside+jack#a823e38ed756f306
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.irish/msg/c650136d5fe07035?hl=en
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.local.geordie/msg/f270bf37f169136d?hl=en
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.legal/browse_thread/thread/2b9352fae3f96ae7/a823e38ed756f306?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=original+tape+wearside+jack#a823e38ed756f306
Special Care
Jun 8, 2012, 9:30:41 AM6/8/12
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Rupert Bear
Jun 10, 2012, 10:57:41 PM6/10/12
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I think one should point out that the original tape sounded quite
different
from that version on your link...
The sound quality seems to be quite good
but because of all the cutting and editing
it sounds quite different
from the version i listened to on the phone
thirty years ago...
Some versions have even been speeded up a bit..
Regardless of all the fiddling with the tape,,
there is one underlying truth..
It is still,, and always was an easily identifiable voice
if you knew that person you would have recognised his voice...
Back in 79/80,, no one would have hesitated
to report that man to the cops
if they recognised his voice...
The voice most certainly will have been recognised by someone,,
but still they could not find him,,
this is the thing that mistfied all the experts
All sorts of explanations were offered up...
Except one.....
.............
The original tape sounds quite different
from that link you posted...
Here is a rather poor copy of the original version...
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/?action=view¤t=Produce.mp4
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Rupert Bear
Jun 10, 2012, 11:36:59 PM6/10/12
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On Jun 11, 3:57 am, Rupert Bear
> ...............................................
Yer,, they struggled to understand
and tried their best to explain
without a realistic understanding
of the case...
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/?action=view¤t=DSCF4458.mp4
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Yer,, they struggled to understand
and tried their best to explain
without a realistic understanding
of the case...
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/?action=view¤t=DSCF4458.mp4
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Rupert Bear
Jun 11, 2012, 12:31:06 AM6/11/12
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On Jun 11, 4:36 am, Rupert Bear <nutherpercept...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Jun 11, 3:57 am, Rupert Bear
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> Yer,, they struggled to understand
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> and tried their best to explain
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> without a realistic understanding
> of the case...
>
> http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20I...
> On Jun 11, 3:57 am, Rupert Bear
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> Yer,, they struggled to understand
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> and tried their best to explain
>
> without a realistic understanding
> of the case...
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They all overlooked the utterly cold calculated
premeditated nature of predicting murders
weeks and months ahead...
And then going out one night and doing it...
Because they said they would...
It ware all just a great big magnificent game wi the cops,,
a couple set out to do it without getting caught...
A girl wrote those letters,,
See here,,,
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/Ruperts%20Box/
She din want ever to be confronted wi the truth..
An
She wins iffen you do nuthing..
beat youse all to bits...
Abit embarrassing to lift her now,,
innit...
But...
Doing nowt might not be so good either...
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The Universal Infant
Jun 11, 2012, 7:48:50 AM6/11/12
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On Jun 11, 5:31 am, Rupert Bear <nutherpercept...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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> Abit embarrassing to lift her now,,
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> Abit embarrassing to lift her now,,
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> But...
> Doing nowt might not be so good either...
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> But...
> Doing nowt might not be so good either...
Unfortunately it is not unusual for people in this civilisation to 'do
nowt' when made aware of serious injustice.
Like I said, there are 'fashionable causes,' 'harmless causes'
acceptable to the ruling group - such as 'saving the babies' - even
though the babies will grow up to commit female genital mutilation and
other atrocities.......... yet it was fashionable to save the babies
and acceptable to the ruling group and an ideal vehicle for self
glorification, self canonisation.....when in fact it was a crime
against humanity and a crime against women in particular, to save
those starving little monsters-to-be....
The Yorkshire Ripper Cover-up / Peter Sutcliffe Myth is an
embarrassment to all.
The 'official' civil liberties groups wont touch it because if they
mentioned it they would lose their status as 'talking heads' in the
Daily Mail and BBC's 'Question Time,' etc...... and be replaced by a
new civil liberties group who would stick to the ruling group's script
in return for being granted glory as 'talking heads' in the Daily
Mail, etc........... Simple as that.........
Ask Jan Creamer. She knows how to stick to the script, and it has
changed radically since she was first recruited by the Vivisection
Syndicate in 1986.......... it's the line of least resistance, or
Murphy's Law.......... the script changes in accordance with what the
ruling group think they can get away with.....it was never illustrated
so vividly as in the British Antivivisection movement in the
1980s......... And yes, all this IS relevant to The Yorkshire Ripper
Cover-up..... it has to do with human psychology and the nature of
this INVERTED civilisation...........
The Universal Infant
Jun 12, 2012, 9:18:03 AM6/12/12
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http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/?action=view¤t=Produce.mp4
It is very different to the recording that was presented to the
public, with all the pauses edited out and the volume
increased..................
I've listened to Mr Noel O'Gara's recordings of Billy Tracey's
voice.......... Mr Noel O'Gara insists that the voice on the tape was
Billy Tracey putting on a Castletown accent....
Is Mr Noel O'Gara still offering for sale copies of those recordings
of Billy Tracey's voice?
It will be helpful if he is. I don't know how accurate 'voiceprints'
are, but there should be some sort of scientific comparison between
the 'Wearside Jack' tape and the recordings Mr Noel O'Gara has of
Billy Tracey's voice. I don't know how accurate the science is, but we
should at least give it a try: compare those recordings of Billy
Tracey's voice with the Wearside Jack tape on a scientific basis, in
so far as the science has accuracy............
Since you say Billy Tracey is NOT the Yorkshire Ripper, you should be
in favour of this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22DUclUZiX4&feature=related
It is very different to the recording that was presented to the
public, with all the pauses edited out and the volume
increased..................
I've listened to Mr Noel O'Gara's recordings of Billy Tracey's
voice.......... Mr Noel O'Gara insists that the voice on the tape was
Billy Tracey putting on a Castletown accent....
Is Mr Noel O'Gara still offering for sale copies of those recordings
of Billy Tracey's voice?
It will be helpful if he is. I don't know how accurate 'voiceprints'
are, but there should be some sort of scientific comparison between
the 'Wearside Jack' tape and the recordings Mr Noel O'Gara has of
Billy Tracey's voice. I don't know how accurate the science is, but we
should at least give it a try: compare those recordings of Billy
Tracey's voice with the Wearside Jack tape on a scientific basis, in
so far as the science has accuracy............
Since you say Billy Tracey is NOT the Yorkshire Ripper, you should be
in favour of this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22DUclUZiX4&feature=related
Special Care
Jun 12, 2012, 9:29:07 AM6/12/12
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nutherpe...@yahoo.co.uk
Jun 12, 2012, 2:25:33 PM6/12/12
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On Tuesday, June 12, 2012 2:18:03 PM UTC+1, Special Care wrote:
> http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/
.......................................
>
> Since you say Billy Tracey is NOT the Yorkshire Ripper, you should be
> in favour of this.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22DUclUZiX4&feature=related
Not really....
Pointless....
It is the same problem we have discussed...
A tape is just a tape,, of a mans voice....
It would take a video recording to
prove it was Tracey....
I have viewed snaps of Beefy Billy,,
and listened to the delicate timbers
in the Mackem voice many times...
Never in a million....
Its a genuine local voice,
im happy with Windsor Lewis
and his mate on this...
I have examined the handwriting sample
posted in OG's book,,, paid for wi NOTW
reporters a hangin about for a scoope...
Not convincing either....
I requested better copy of his letter
from Armly but he would not help in this regard,,
either,, despite the fact that in this respect
we agree....
Not the same writing....
On the other hand I have found the
same handwriting in letters from my cousins wife,,
and have post many HD quality images...
Here,,,
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/Ruperts%20Box/
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/Ruperts%20Box/?action=view¤t=SoManyReasons.jpg
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/Ruperts%20Box/?action=view¤t=Flat-Tops.jpg
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/Ruperts%20Box/?action=view¤t=YorkshireCats.jpg
Finding someone to examine and verify the letters
I have might be more to the point,,,
But finding a person who could be trusted to
do so could be rather difficult...
In the end all you can trust in the Ripper
case is in your own good selves,,,,
So please look and think for yourselves is what I say...
The Yorkshire Ripper letters were
disguised an they never told us...
See them here...
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/
.......................................................
..................................................
> http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/
.......................................
>
> Since you say Billy Tracey is NOT the Yorkshire Ripper, you should be
> in favour of this.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22DUclUZiX4&feature=related
Pointless....
It is the same problem we have discussed...
A tape is just a tape,, of a mans voice....
It would take a video recording to
prove it was Tracey....
I have viewed snaps of Beefy Billy,,
and listened to the delicate timbers
in the Mackem voice many times...
Never in a million....
Its a genuine local voice,
im happy with Windsor Lewis
and his mate on this...
I have examined the handwriting sample
posted in OG's book,,, paid for wi NOTW
reporters a hangin about for a scoope...
Not convincing either....
I requested better copy of his letter
from Armly but he would not help in this regard,,
either,, despite the fact that in this respect
we agree....
Not the same writing....
On the other hand I have found the
same handwriting in letters from my cousins wife,,
and have post many HD quality images...
Here,,,
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/Ruperts%20Box/
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/Ruperts%20Box/?action=view¤t=SoManyReasons.jpg
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/Ruperts%20Box/?action=view¤t=Flat-Tops.jpg
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/Ruperts%20Box/?action=view¤t=YorkshireCats.jpg
Finding someone to examine and verify the letters
I have might be more to the point,,,
But finding a person who could be trusted to
do so could be rather difficult...
In the end all you can trust in the Ripper
case is in your own good selves,,,,
So please look and think for yourselves is what I say...
The Yorkshire Ripper letters were
disguised an they never told us...
See them here...
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/
.......................................................
..................................................
The Universal Infant
Jun 14, 2012, 9:38:37 AM6/14/12
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THE GLORY FACTOR
-------------------------------------
I don’t remember hearing this aspect of the Yorkshire Ripper Cover-up
being mentioned yet.
Well, you know what people are like. To have your fifteen minutes of
fame on TV is what most people long for.
But imagine - in the context of 1979 – the prospect of being
immortalised in history as THE MAN WHO CAUGHT THE YORKSHIRE RIPPER, by
identifying the voice on the tape.
If anyone had recognised that voice, they would have informed, for two
reasons:
1. Everybody in England and elsewhere was disgusted by the sneaky,
cowardly way in which the Yorkshire Ripper came up behind lone women
and hit them on the head and then violated them. Everybody wanted him
behind bars. For that reason alone, if anyone had recognised that
voice, they would have informed.
2. Then there is the glory factor. Imagine being immortalised in
history as THE MAN WHO CAUGHT THE YORKSHIRE RIPPER. If anyone had
recognised the voice, they would have informed, for these two
reasons.
-------------------------------------------------------------
Why did it not happen? We can only speculate in an intelligent way.
Some of the victims of the Yorkshire Ripper (NOT Peter Sutcliffe’s
victims) were poor, homeless girls. Miss Harrison and Miss Richardson,
for instance. The Yorkshire Ripper (NOT Peter Sutcliffe) seems to have
had some knowledge of the homeless hostel scene and knew how to chat
up homeless women in need of a drink.
On that basis, it would have been quite easy for the Yorkshire Ripper
to chat up some male down-and-out, who needed a drink, and to offer
him drink and money and a hot meal and a bed for the night.….in return
for having a bit of a lark with a tape recorder, reading that script
into a microphone……
And it would have been easy for the Yorkshire Ripper to establish that
the bum had no family or friends who cared about him, no one who would
make any noise if the bum disappeared……
The bum who spoke on that tape might have been illiterate. The
numerous pauses on the original tape may signify that the Yorkshire
Ripper was reading the script, sentence by sentence, to the illiterate
bum, who was hesitantly repeating each sentence that the Yorkshire
Ripper recited while the tape was paused…… Then the nameless,
anonymous bum was bumped off, maybe forcibly drowned in a river, and
the cops just recorded it as another suicide of a nameless bum……
Then the tape was sent to the West Yorkshire Police (=KEYSTONE COPS),
and the Yorkshire Ripper was amazed by what happened next as the
Keystone Cops danced to his tune. Imagine how the Yorkshire Ripper was
laughing in front of the TV every night.
----------------------------------------------------
One of the most amazing aspects of the Yorkshire Ripper Cover-up is
the fact that apparently intelligent men such as THE FOUR STOOGES -
Ronald Gregory, George Oldfield, Jim Hobson, Dick Holland - failed to
spot the ‘obvious’ nonsequitor:
ALTHOUGH THE RECORDING CONTAINED INFORMATION KNOWN ONLY TO THE
YORKSHIRE RIPPER AND TO THE POLICE, IT DID NOT FOLLOW THAT THE VOICE
WAS THE VOICE OF THE YORKSHIRE RIPPER. It could have been anybody’s
voice.
In fact the OPPOSITE conclusion should have been drawn - the Yorkshire
Ripper was no fool and was not going to use his own voice on that
tape.
Perhaps that is the most mysterious aspect of this most mysterious
case in the history of true crime: the fact that seemingly intelligent
men assumed that the voice on the tape must be the voice of the
Yorkshire Ripper, when it could have been anybody’s voice……. What a
mess! I admit I didn’t see the nonsequitor either, until the man who
uses the name ‘Rupert Bear’ in discussions pointed it out to me a few
years ago. A total nonsequitor. A recording is sent to the police
giving details about the Yorkshire Ripper killings known only to the
police and to the Yorkshire Ripper. And the Keystone Cops conclude
that the voice on the tape is the voice of the Yorkshire Ripper, when
they should have drawn the OPPOSITE conclusion.
Even ‘the greatest investigative writer in the world’ didn’t spot that
obvious nonsequitor, just as ‘the greatest investigative writer in the
world’ somehow missed the numerous statements from the West Yorkshire
Police during 1978-80 stating that there were TWO men committing the
series of killings.
Nobody disputes that Peter Sutcliffe killed about five women and
severely assaulted about ten women during the period 1973-1980. He
began in a clumsy, hesitant way, for example the amateurish assault on
Marcella Claxton in Chapeltown, Leeds, on 9 May 1976…. but by 1980 he
was escalating and his attacks were more cunning and more vicious, as
in Marguerite Walls….. But Peter Sutcliffe was NOT the Yorkshire
Ripper. He was a weak, cowardly, submissive, henpecked husband, who
redirected his hatred for his mother, and for his impossibly frigid
and domineering wife Sonia, onto these lone women. Finally, Peter
Sutcliffe couldn’t live with it any more and forced his arrest by
displaying fake number plates in a location where police often checked
on parked vehicles. Then Peter Sutcliffe made them an offer they
couldn’t refuse, by showing a willingness to confess to anything in
return for good treatment.
After being arrested, Peter Sutcliffe easily could have wriggled out
of it again if he’d wanted to. He’d been interviewed by the Keystone
Cops about ten times already. But no, he said:
“I think you’ve been leading up to it.” /
“Leading up to what?” /
“The Yorkshire Ripper, it’s me.”
That conversation came from a henpecked emotional cripple desperate to
get into institutional care - NOT from The Yorkshire Ripper.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
THE BOTTOM LINE IS:
Imagine - in the context of 1979 - the opportunity of being
immortalised in history as THE MAN WHO CAUGHT THE YORKSHIRE RIPPER, by
identifying the voice on the tape.
If anyone had recognised that voice, they would have informed, for two
reasons:
1. Everybody in England and elsewhere was disgusted by the sneaky,
cowardly way in which the Yorkshire Ripper came up behind lone women
and hit them on the head and then violated them. Everybody wanted him
behind bars. For that reason alone, if anyone had recognised that
voice, they would have informed.
2. Then there is the glory factor. Imagine being immortalised in
history as THE MAN WHO CAUGHT THE YORKSHIRE RIPPER. If anyone had
recognised the voice, they would have informed, for these two reasons.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
I’M JACK:
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/?action=view¤t=Produce.mp4
The West Yorkshire Police = The Keystone Cops:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZBdxvego1E&feature=related
-------------------------------------
I don’t remember hearing this aspect of the Yorkshire Ripper Cover-up
being mentioned yet.
Well, you know what people are like. To have your fifteen minutes of
fame on TV is what most people long for.
But imagine - in the context of 1979 – the prospect of being
immortalised in history as THE MAN WHO CAUGHT THE YORKSHIRE RIPPER, by
identifying the voice on the tape.
If anyone had recognised that voice, they would have informed, for two
reasons:
1. Everybody in England and elsewhere was disgusted by the sneaky,
cowardly way in which the Yorkshire Ripper came up behind lone women
and hit them on the head and then violated them. Everybody wanted him
behind bars. For that reason alone, if anyone had recognised that
voice, they would have informed.
2. Then there is the glory factor. Imagine being immortalised in
history as THE MAN WHO CAUGHT THE YORKSHIRE RIPPER. If anyone had
recognised the voice, they would have informed, for these two
reasons.
-------------------------------------------------------------
Why did it not happen? We can only speculate in an intelligent way.
Some of the victims of the Yorkshire Ripper (NOT Peter Sutcliffe’s
victims) were poor, homeless girls. Miss Harrison and Miss Richardson,
for instance. The Yorkshire Ripper (NOT Peter Sutcliffe) seems to have
had some knowledge of the homeless hostel scene and knew how to chat
up homeless women in need of a drink.
On that basis, it would have been quite easy for the Yorkshire Ripper
to chat up some male down-and-out, who needed a drink, and to offer
him drink and money and a hot meal and a bed for the night.….in return
for having a bit of a lark with a tape recorder, reading that script
into a microphone……
And it would have been easy for the Yorkshire Ripper to establish that
the bum had no family or friends who cared about him, no one who would
make any noise if the bum disappeared……
The bum who spoke on that tape might have been illiterate. The
numerous pauses on the original tape may signify that the Yorkshire
Ripper was reading the script, sentence by sentence, to the illiterate
bum, who was hesitantly repeating each sentence that the Yorkshire
Ripper recited while the tape was paused…… Then the nameless,
anonymous bum was bumped off, maybe forcibly drowned in a river, and
the cops just recorded it as another suicide of a nameless bum……
Then the tape was sent to the West Yorkshire Police (=KEYSTONE COPS),
and the Yorkshire Ripper was amazed by what happened next as the
Keystone Cops danced to his tune. Imagine how the Yorkshire Ripper was
laughing in front of the TV every night.
----------------------------------------------------
One of the most amazing aspects of the Yorkshire Ripper Cover-up is
the fact that apparently intelligent men such as THE FOUR STOOGES -
Ronald Gregory, George Oldfield, Jim Hobson, Dick Holland - failed to
spot the ‘obvious’ nonsequitor:
ALTHOUGH THE RECORDING CONTAINED INFORMATION KNOWN ONLY TO THE
YORKSHIRE RIPPER AND TO THE POLICE, IT DID NOT FOLLOW THAT THE VOICE
WAS THE VOICE OF THE YORKSHIRE RIPPER. It could have been anybody’s
voice.
In fact the OPPOSITE conclusion should have been drawn - the Yorkshire
Ripper was no fool and was not going to use his own voice on that
tape.
Perhaps that is the most mysterious aspect of this most mysterious
case in the history of true crime: the fact that seemingly intelligent
men assumed that the voice on the tape must be the voice of the
Yorkshire Ripper, when it could have been anybody’s voice……. What a
mess! I admit I didn’t see the nonsequitor either, until the man who
uses the name ‘Rupert Bear’ in discussions pointed it out to me a few
years ago. A total nonsequitor. A recording is sent to the police
giving details about the Yorkshire Ripper killings known only to the
police and to the Yorkshire Ripper. And the Keystone Cops conclude
that the voice on the tape is the voice of the Yorkshire Ripper, when
they should have drawn the OPPOSITE conclusion.
Even ‘the greatest investigative writer in the world’ didn’t spot that
obvious nonsequitor, just as ‘the greatest investigative writer in the
world’ somehow missed the numerous statements from the West Yorkshire
Police during 1978-80 stating that there were TWO men committing the
series of killings.
Nobody disputes that Peter Sutcliffe killed about five women and
severely assaulted about ten women during the period 1973-1980. He
began in a clumsy, hesitant way, for example the amateurish assault on
Marcella Claxton in Chapeltown, Leeds, on 9 May 1976…. but by 1980 he
was escalating and his attacks were more cunning and more vicious, as
in Marguerite Walls….. But Peter Sutcliffe was NOT the Yorkshire
Ripper. He was a weak, cowardly, submissive, henpecked husband, who
redirected his hatred for his mother, and for his impossibly frigid
and domineering wife Sonia, onto these lone women. Finally, Peter
Sutcliffe couldn’t live with it any more and forced his arrest by
displaying fake number plates in a location where police often checked
on parked vehicles. Then Peter Sutcliffe made them an offer they
couldn’t refuse, by showing a willingness to confess to anything in
return for good treatment.
After being arrested, Peter Sutcliffe easily could have wriggled out
of it again if he’d wanted to. He’d been interviewed by the Keystone
Cops about ten times already. But no, he said:
“I think you’ve been leading up to it.” /
“Leading up to what?” /
“The Yorkshire Ripper, it’s me.”
That conversation came from a henpecked emotional cripple desperate to
get into institutional care - NOT from The Yorkshire Ripper.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
THE BOTTOM LINE IS:
Imagine - in the context of 1979 - the opportunity of being
immortalised in history as THE MAN WHO CAUGHT THE YORKSHIRE RIPPER, by
identifying the voice on the tape.
If anyone had recognised that voice, they would have informed, for two
reasons:
1. Everybody in England and elsewhere was disgusted by the sneaky,
cowardly way in which the Yorkshire Ripper came up behind lone women
and hit them on the head and then violated them. Everybody wanted him
behind bars. For that reason alone, if anyone had recognised that
voice, they would have informed.
2. Then there is the glory factor. Imagine being immortalised in
history as THE MAN WHO CAUGHT THE YORKSHIRE RIPPER. If anyone had
recognised the voice, they would have informed, for these two reasons.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
I’M JACK:
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/?action=view¤t=Produce.mp4
The West Yorkshire Police = The Keystone Cops:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZBdxvego1E&feature=related
nutherpe...@yahoo.co.uk
Jun 14, 2012, 9:37:21 PM6/14/12
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On Thursday, June 14, 2012 2:38:37 PM UTC+1, Special Care wrote:
> THE GLORY FACTOR
>
> -------------------------------------
>
> I don’t remember hearing this aspect of the Yorkshire Ripper Cover-up
> being mentioned yet.
>
> Well, you know what people are like. To have your fifteen minutes of
> fame on TV is what most people long for.
Ermm,, there was a £30,000 reward on offer....
> THE GLORY FACTOR
>
> -------------------------------------
>
> I don’t remember hearing this aspect of the Yorkshire Ripper Cover-up
> being mentioned yet.
>
> Well, you know what people are like. To have your fifteen minutes of
> fame on TV is what most people long for.
>
> But imagine - in the context of 1979 – the prospect of being
> immortalised in history as THE MAN WHO CAUGHT THE YORKSHIRE RIPPER, by
> identifying the voice on the tape.
Imagine all that lovely lolly....
> But imagine - in the context of 1979 – the prospect of being
> immortalised in history as THE MAN WHO CAUGHT THE YORKSHIRE RIPPER, by
> identifying the voice on the tape.
>
> If anyone had recognised that voice, they would have informed, for two
> reasons:
>
> 1. Everybody in England and elsewhere was disgusted by the sneaky,
> cowardly way in which the Yorkshire Ripper came up behind lone women
> and hit them on the head and then violated them. Everybody wanted him
> behind bars. For that reason alone, if anyone had recognised that
> voice, they would have informed.
> 2. Then there is the glory factor. Imagine being immortalised in
> history as THE MAN WHO CAUGHT THE YORKSHIRE RIPPER. If anyone had
> recognised the voice, they would have informed, for these two
> reasons.
I once had my photo taken wi a few dead fish,,,,
> If anyone had recognised that voice, they would have informed, for two
> reasons:
>
> 1. Everybody in England and elsewhere was disgusted by the sneaky,
> cowardly way in which the Yorkshire Ripper came up behind lone women
> and hit them on the head and then violated them. Everybody wanted him
> behind bars. For that reason alone, if anyone had recognised that
> voice, they would have informed.
> 2. Then there is the glory factor. Imagine being immortalised in
> history as THE MAN WHO CAUGHT THE YORKSHIRE RIPPER. If anyone had
> recognised the voice, they would have informed, for these two
> reasons.
And many hunters liked to show off the animals they slaughtered...
The day I helped nail the Ripper has been used in the Press,,
song of the hunter,, and a glory it wouldda been,, if true...
Doubt if the average Joe would have been thinking that way,,
but maybe programms like Jeremy Kyle support your day on the box
idea to some extent...
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Why did it not happen? We can only speculate in an intelligent way.
>
> Some of the victims of the Yorkshire Ripper (NOT Peter Sutcliffe’s
> victims) were poor, homeless girls. Miss Harrison and Miss Richardson,
> for instance. The Yorkshire Ripper (NOT Peter Sutcliffe) seems to have
> had some knowledge of the homeless hostel scene and knew how to chat
> up homeless women in need of a drink.
>
> On that basis, it would have been quite easy for the Yorkshire Ripper
> to chat up some male down-and-out, who needed a drink, and to offer
> him drink and money and a hot meal and a bed for the night.….in return
> for having a bit of a lark with a tape recorder, reading that script
> into a microphone……
>
> And it would have been easy for the Yorkshire Ripper to establish that
> the bum had no family or friends who cared about him, no one who would
> make any noise if the bum disappeared……
>
> The bum who spoke on that tape might have been illiterate. The
> numerous pauses on the original tape may signify that the Yorkshire
> Ripper was reading the script, sentence by sentence, to the illiterate
> bum, who was hesitantly repeating each sentence that the Yorkshire
> Ripper recited while the tape was paused…… Then the nameless,
> anonymous bum was bumped off, maybe forcibly drowned in a river, and
> the cops just recorded it as another suicide of a nameless bum...
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Why did it not happen? We can only speculate in an intelligent way.
>
> Some of the victims of the Yorkshire Ripper (NOT Peter Sutcliffe’s
> victims) were poor, homeless girls. Miss Harrison and Miss Richardson,
> for instance. The Yorkshire Ripper (NOT Peter Sutcliffe) seems to have
> had some knowledge of the homeless hostel scene and knew how to chat
> up homeless women in need of a drink.
>
> On that basis, it would have been quite easy for the Yorkshire Ripper
> to chat up some male down-and-out, who needed a drink, and to offer
> him drink and money and a hot meal and a bed for the night.….in return
> for having a bit of a lark with a tape recorder, reading that script
> into a microphone……
>
> And it would have been easy for the Yorkshire Ripper to establish that
> the bum had no family or friends who cared about him, no one who would
> make any noise if the bum disappeared……
>
> The bum who spoke on that tape might have been illiterate. The
> numerous pauses on the original tape may signify that the Yorkshire
> Ripper was reading the script, sentence by sentence, to the illiterate
> bum, who was hesitantly repeating each sentence that the Yorkshire
> Ripper recited while the tape was paused…… Then the nameless,
> anonymous bum was bumped off, maybe forcibly drowned in a river, and
..............................
> Why did it not happen? We can only speculate in an intelligent way.
though it could be true,, it is only one possible
explanation of the dead man talking scenario.....
The first two letters had been kept quiet by the Police,,
they quite reasonably suspected a deliberate mislead by the killer
at that time....
However the handwriting and the fact that the killer must have
visited Sunderland were the only leads they had..
It is recorded that discrete enquiries were made
with the local cops,, of course they would..
But as far as folks in Sunderland were
concerned it was life blissfully ignorant
of the storm heading their way...
Depending on the lifestyle and interests of the locals
I would think that many of them had very low awareness
of the Yorkshire Ripper... I don't know the date off-hand
but footy fans started chanting Ripper scores at some point,,
I think it is possible the average Joe wi little interest in worldly
afairs might have no awareness of the Ripper at all...
Even after Halifax and the third letter the cops kept
pretty quiet,, until after that tape arrived...
To persuade another man to record a message onto a tape machine
will have required a considerable amount of
forethought and planning,, chewing it over,, how best to do it...
Halifax came after the killer had kept his first prediction,,
and the cops kept his letters quiet,,
and started playing games wi him,, trying to outsmart him
with honey traps in Bradford an Leeds,, while they cops was
watching wi bags of chips from steamy cars...
Blah Blah,,, we know tha story...
Point is that the killer made a prediction to kill
well over a year before that tape was sent and had
all sorts of motivation to outsmart the cops...
Specially if it was the intention to convince thame cops
he was from Sunderland when he lived in the opposite direction...
The first attempt in Manchester did not achieve the desired
result,, they did not acknowledge the Sunderland letters...
At some point during that year of puzzling what the cops were up to
the realisation would be that it would take more than a couple of letters..
At some point it occurred that a voice would probably do the trick,,
specially if it came with a third prediction to kill..
They would have to announce a voice,, a recorded message
from a Sunderland man... To save a girl,,,
Give em slowcoaches plenty of time to be sure,,,
make the prediction for a few months ahead..
Don't need to be too accurate,,
use the three sided file again to make sure
they dumbo's know it was you...
That is why the three sided instrument was first used in
Halifax,, to introduce an undeniable connection...
No more Yvonne nonsense,, they will know,, it cannot be mistaken..
The introduction of the triangular instrument is a very good measure
of the degree of fore-thought and planning involved,,
connected positively with the message/prediction on the tape....
Three months later,,
that triangular weapon was used again in Bradford...
The cold calculated planning months in advance is
a particularly chilling aspect of the case...
Not crimes of passion or lust or mad maniac on the loose,,,
none of that cold forethought and logic to achieve an end result...
Dead girls were just means to an end by this time,,
the levers and mechanism of persuasion,,,
by which the Sunderland result was achieved...
When think about how far ahead they were planning,,,
Well I say the tape was probably made around about Feb 79..
Months before folk in Sunderland heard of the Ripper,,
a man with that voice met an untimely end...
Folks might not go off and report a
dead man under those circumstances,,,
You Wally,, he died months before the tape was sent and
several weeks before the third letter to be sure...
No need for a down and out tramp,, could just be an
innocent punter on his way home from the pub,,
and even if his folks did believe their ears and went to
the cops,,, well they would have no way of proving it was him..
Thame thick-skinned cops would just dismiss
them as grief stricken hysterical..
Mass histeria played a part in the Ripper
puzzle ,,, along wi all thame greedy folks
alustin after thon reward,,
an reporting folks whot
just might be him...
...............................
nutherpe...@yahoo.co.uk
Jun 15, 2012, 12:42:02 AM6/15/12
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That was a bit unfair,, I do have a copy of Noels
Armley letter that is good enough to examine,,
I think he did send me a copy of his web version,,
See here,,,
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/Ruperts%20Box/?action=view¤t=ArmleyLetter.jpg
I had asked for a better quality copy...
But that one will do well enough..
The Universal Infant
Jun 25, 2012, 8:32:31 AM6/25/12
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I might have mentioned this before.
I advise you to get a copy of
“Jack the Ripper - the Final Solution”
by Stephen Knight,
published 1976.
--------------------
It’s about the 1888 murders in Whitechapel.
What makes that book unusual is that the author states that four of
the murdered women in 1888 were acquainted with one another, and he
seems to have evidence for that, and he says the four prostitutes were
accomplices in a plot to blackmail a member of the British Royal
family…….
So Mr Knight’s thesis is that there was no lunatic random killer - in
other words, there was never any such person as Jack the Ripper as we
have been led to understand - but just the determination by an
employee of the British royal family to murder these women who knew
too much, and to get the media to invent a mythical maniac random
killer called Jack the Ripper as a smokescreen to conceal the
silencing of those four prostitutes who knew too much about a member
of the royal family and were attempting blackmail………. and the author
suggests the fifth victim of ‘Jack the Ripper’ 1888 was murdered
because of being mistaken for one of the four blackmailers……….
Interesting……..
If it is true that four of the Whitechapel victims in 1888 were
acquainted with one another, then all other theories about Jack the
Ripper 1888 are sunk.
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I’M JACK:
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I advise you to get a copy of
“Jack the Ripper - the Final Solution”
by Stephen Knight,
published 1976.
--------------------
It’s about the 1888 murders in Whitechapel.
What makes that book unusual is that the author states that four of
the murdered women in 1888 were acquainted with one another, and he
seems to have evidence for that, and he says the four prostitutes were
accomplices in a plot to blackmail a member of the British Royal
family…….
So Mr Knight’s thesis is that there was no lunatic random killer - in
other words, there was never any such person as Jack the Ripper as we
have been led to understand - but just the determination by an
employee of the British royal family to murder these women who knew
too much, and to get the media to invent a mythical maniac random
killer called Jack the Ripper as a smokescreen to conceal the
silencing of those four prostitutes who knew too much about a member
of the royal family and were attempting blackmail………. and the author
suggests the fifth victim of ‘Jack the Ripper’ 1888 was murdered
because of being mistaken for one of the four blackmailers……….
Interesting……..
If it is true that four of the Whitechapel victims in 1888 were
acquainted with one another, then all other theories about Jack the
Ripper 1888 are sunk.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
I’M JACK:
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20I...
The Universal Infant
Jun 25, 2012, 8:38:17 AM6/25/12
to
nutherpe...@yahoo.co.uk
Jun 25, 2012, 1:48:47 PM6/25/12
to
On Monday, June 25, 2012 1:32:31 PM UTC+1, Special Care wrote:
> I might have mentioned this before.
> I advise you to get a copy of
> “Jack the Ripper - the Final Solution”
> by Stephen Knight,
> published 1976.
>
> --------------------
I don't recall,,,
> I might have mentioned this before.
> I advise you to get a copy of
> “Jack the Ripper - the Final Solution”
> by Stephen Knight,
> published 1976.
>
> --------------------
but never mind,, thanks
for pointing it out..
Amazon only had three copies left...
(so they say)...
Its the publishing date,, 1976..
Makes this book of interest to me...
Just before the spate of
Yorkshire Ripper murders
from the beginning of 77...
They started again with a more methodical
premeditated character...
A deliberate ripper re-make,, started
at the beginning of 77,,if not before..?
And i have been exploring possible
influences in the case...
wiki says that book was successful...
>
> It’s about the 1888 murders in Whitechapel.
>
> What makes that book unusual is that the author states that four of
> the murdered women in 1888 were acquainted with one another, and he
> seems to have evidence for that, and he says the four prostitutes were
> accomplices in a plot to blackmail a member of the British Royal
> family…….
>
> So Mr Knight’s thesis is that there was no lunatic random killer - in
> other words, there was never any such person as Jack the Ripper as we
> have been led to understand - but just the determination by an
> employee of the British royal family to murder these women who knew
> too much, and to get the media to invent a mythical maniac random
> killer called Jack the Ripper as a smokescreen to conceal the
> silencing of those four prostitutes who knew too much about a member
> of the royal family and were attempting blackmail………. and the author
> suggests the fifth victim of ‘Jack the Ripper’ 1888 was murdered
> because of being mistaken for one of the four blackmailers……….
>
> Interesting……..
>
> If it is true that four of the Whitechapel victims in 1888 were
> acquainted with one another, then all other theories about Jack the
> Ripper 1888 are sunk.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Well there is a website where all theories are explored..
> It’s about the 1888 murders in Whitechapel.
>
> What makes that book unusual is that the author states that four of
> the murdered women in 1888 were acquainted with one another, and he
> seems to have evidence for that, and he says the four prostitutes were
> accomplices in a plot to blackmail a member of the British Royal
> family…….
>
> So Mr Knight’s thesis is that there was no lunatic random killer - in
> other words, there was never any such person as Jack the Ripper as we
> have been led to understand - but just the determination by an
> employee of the British royal family to murder these women who knew
> too much, and to get the media to invent a mythical maniac random
> killer called Jack the Ripper as a smokescreen to conceal the
> silencing of those four prostitutes who knew too much about a member
> of the royal family and were attempting blackmail………. and the author
> suggests the fifth victim of ‘Jack the Ripper’ 1888 was murdered
> because of being mistaken for one of the four blackmailers……….
>
> Interesting……..
>
> If it is true that four of the Whitechapel victims in 1888 were
> acquainted with one another, then all other theories about Jack the
> Ripper 1888 are sunk.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
I liked the Johnny Depp,,version,,
"From Hell" based on the royal conspiracy
idea wi some goat worshiping secret
society thrown in for good measure....
A good yarn....
Kelvin McKenzie put a good little doc
together..
He asks why does the ripper fascinate..
Because it is unsolved,,!
Ripper Killer,,,
and the birth of the tabloids,,
"If it bleeds, it leads"
commercial press interests
etc,,etc..
Loaddsa folks been
jumping on the Ripper cash-cow
for years..
Perhaps they Tabloids
don't want the truth..
More fun juss making stuff up..
.....................
Here is something a bit
more up to date..
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/Ruperts%20Box/?action=view¤t=NotNoAttention.jpg
http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Offbeam%20Images/Ruperts%20Box/
You not catch Elaine Quiggly
talking to kelvin about thame..
You wull have to look
an think for yourselves..
.................................
The Universal Infant
Jun 27, 2012, 6:26:12 AM6/27/12
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IPSWICH revisited:
It’s worth mentioning that Jack the Ripper, 1888, killed five
prostitutes in quick succession, during about two and a half months,
then nothing more was ever heard from him.
The book by Stephen Knight, dated 1976, titled ‘Jack the Ripper, The
Final Solution,’ is the most plausible explanation of that ancient
mystery.
Men who chose to be serial killers of prostitutes sometimes want to
emulate or even outdo Jack the Ripper 1888. The so-called ‘Ipswich
Strangler’ did not just emulate him, but bettered him, killing five
prostitutes in a much shorter time. Perhaps that was his premeditated
aim - to outdo Jack the Ripper 1888.
There is no evidence against Steve Wright.
Particularly sickening is the image of a car, supposedly taken by a
roadside camera, showing the car only above the number plate and with
the driver’s face indistinct.
WHAT PURPOSE MIGHT SUCH CAMERAS SERVE, if they don’t record number
plates and a discernible image of the drivers face?
Yet such an image was offered to the jury at Steve Wright’s trial,
truncated so as to show the car only above the number plate and the
driver’s face being just a blur……and the jury convicted Steve Wright
on that evidence, plus a lot of irrelevancies intruduced only to
discredit him in the eyes of the jury but having no connection with a
murder charge……..
It just leaves a sane observer speechless and terrified of trial by
jury…..
-----------------------------------------------------
The following is a minor point and in itself doesn’t prove anything,
but much was made of the fact that the killings stopped after Steve
Wright was arrested. Perhaps they stopped simply because the Ipswich
Strangler had achieved what he set out to achieve, to *out-Ripper the
Ripper* of 1888 by killing the same number of prostitutes - five - in
a much shorter time.
-----------------------------------------------------
Steve Wright was convicted on zero evidence, the jury being a bunch
of
country bumpkins who were easily manipulated.
The Suffolk Constabulary, a sleepy rural police force - accustomed to
chasing poachers and petty burglars [think of the British TV series
‘Heartbeat’] - these sleepy rural cops had been suddenly catapulted
into the glare of the entire world’s media by the unprecedented
nature
of the killings in quick succession of beautiful and vulnerable young
women, and so the Suffolk Constabulary simply wanted to convict some
innocent fall guy, just to make the TV cameras disappear so that the
Suffolk Constabulary would no longer be displaying their bumbling,
inarticulate, unsophisticated ‘country bumpkin’ attributes and funny
accents to the entire population of the world.
Steve Wright, against whom there is zero evidence, was the soft
target, the fall guy…… and the jury of twelve ‘country bumpkins’ were
easily led.
-----------------------------------------------------
It’s a minor point, and doesn’t prove anything in itself, but it’s
worth mentioning - the magic number of five prostitutes murdered by
Jack the Ripper 1888. Perhaps that is why the Ipswich killings
stopped, after he had ‘out-Rippered the Ripper’ of 1888 by doing the
same in a much shorter time span.
Then the real Ipswich Strangler, like the real Yorkshire Ripper of
the
1970s, decided to quit while he was ahead and let the fall guy take
the rap.
-----------------------------------------------------
http://forum.casebook.org/archive/index.php/t-5141.html
It’s worth mentioning that Jack the Ripper, 1888, killed five
prostitutes in quick succession, during about two and a half months,
then nothing more was ever heard from him.
The book by Stephen Knight, dated 1976, titled ‘Jack the Ripper, The
Final Solution,’ is the most plausible explanation of that ancient
mystery.
Men who chose to be serial killers of prostitutes sometimes want to
emulate or even outdo Jack the Ripper 1888. The so-called ‘Ipswich
Strangler’ did not just emulate him, but bettered him, killing five
prostitutes in a much shorter time. Perhaps that was his premeditated
aim - to outdo Jack the Ripper 1888.
There is no evidence against Steve Wright.
Particularly sickening is the image of a car, supposedly taken by a
roadside camera, showing the car only above the number plate and with
the driver’s face indistinct.
WHAT PURPOSE MIGHT SUCH CAMERAS SERVE, if they don’t record number
plates and a discernible image of the drivers face?
Yet such an image was offered to the jury at Steve Wright’s trial,
truncated so as to show the car only above the number plate and the
driver’s face being just a blur……and the jury convicted Steve Wright
on that evidence, plus a lot of irrelevancies intruduced only to
discredit him in the eyes of the jury but having no connection with a
murder charge……..
It just leaves a sane observer speechless and terrified of trial by
jury…..
-----------------------------------------------------
The following is a minor point and in itself doesn’t prove anything,
but much was made of the fact that the killings stopped after Steve
Wright was arrested. Perhaps they stopped simply because the Ipswich
Strangler had achieved what he set out to achieve, to *out-Ripper the
Ripper* of 1888 by killing the same number of prostitutes - five - in
a much shorter time.
-----------------------------------------------------
Steve Wright was convicted on zero evidence, the jury being a bunch
of
country bumpkins who were easily manipulated.
The Suffolk Constabulary, a sleepy rural police force - accustomed to
chasing poachers and petty burglars [think of the British TV series
‘Heartbeat’] - these sleepy rural cops had been suddenly catapulted
into the glare of the entire world’s media by the unprecedented
nature
of the killings in quick succession of beautiful and vulnerable young
women, and so the Suffolk Constabulary simply wanted to convict some
innocent fall guy, just to make the TV cameras disappear so that the
Suffolk Constabulary would no longer be displaying their bumbling,
inarticulate, unsophisticated ‘country bumpkin’ attributes and funny
accents to the entire population of the world.
Steve Wright, against whom there is zero evidence, was the soft
target, the fall guy…… and the jury of twelve ‘country bumpkins’ were
easily led.
-----------------------------------------------------
It’s a minor point, and doesn’t prove anything in itself, but it’s
worth mentioning - the magic number of five prostitutes murdered by
Jack the Ripper 1888. Perhaps that is why the Ipswich killings
stopped, after he had ‘out-Rippered the Ripper’ of 1888 by doing the
same in a much shorter time span.
Then the real Ipswich Strangler, like the real Yorkshire Ripper of
the
1970s, decided to quit while he was ahead and let the fall guy take
the rap.
-----------------------------------------------------
http://forum.casebook.org/archive/index.php/t-5141.html
nutherpe...@yahoo.co.uk
Jun 27, 2012, 12:14:40 PM6/27/12
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On Monday, June 25, 2012 6:48:47 PM UTC+1, (unknown) wrote:
> On Monday, June 25, 2012 1:32:31 PM UTC+1, Special Care wrote:
> > I might have mentioned this before.
> > I advise you to get a copy of
> > “Jack the Ripper - the Final Solution”
> > by Stephen Knight,
> > published 1976.
I got my copy this morning,,,
> On Monday, June 25, 2012 1:32:31 PM UTC+1, Special Care wrote:
> > I might have mentioned this before.
> > I advise you to get a copy of
> > “Jack the Ripper - the Final Solution”
> > by Stephen Knight,
> > published 1976.
very small print,,,
I find it difficult to read...
...............................
> Loaddsa folks been
> jumping on the Ripper cash-cow
> for years..
>
> Perhaps they Tabloids
> don't want the truth..
>
> More fun juss making stuff up..
>
an remunerative rewards...
Did you know there is now a Gordon Burns Prize,,,
Gordon Burn was a writer for whom no subject
or character was beyond fictionalising.
Peter Sutcliffe, Alma Cogan, Duncan Edwards, George Best and Bobby Charlton,
Damien Hirst, Gordon Brown, Margaret Thatcher, and even Gordon Burn himself:
Burn loved to take characters already burnished in the celebrity spotlight
and explore the darkness beneath.
Sometimes he would choose fiction to do this,
as in his Whitbread Prize-winning debut, Alma Cogan; other times –
and sometimes within the same book –
his methods and intentions were more ambiguous.????
The reader begins to question the very nature
of what he is reading.
Fiction? Non-fiction? Faction? Or,
as celebrated by the likes of Norman Mailer in the late Sixties,
the non-fiction novel.
Gordon Burn belonged, and felt himself to belong,
to an American tradition born in the High Sixties.
A lover of Capote, Mailer and New Journalism,
in his career as a writer,
Gordon applied the rigour and tenacity of a reporter and journalist
to what was often a fictional template.
He loved novels like DeLillo's Libra and carved out a unique place
for himself in contemporary British writing, often responding to real,
spectacular, sometimes appalling events.
Probably Juss thame folks canvassing for
that particular talent ,,Eh,,
More here...
http://www.booktrade.info/index.php/showarticle/40191
A lover of capote,,,
I dunno what that means...
..............................
nutherpe...@yahoo.co.uk
Jun 28, 2012, 2:10:32 PM6/28/12
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On Wednesday, June 27, 2012 5:14:40 PM UTC+1, (unknown) wrote:
> On Monday, June 25, 2012 6:48:47 PM UTC+1, (unknown) wrote:
> > On Monday, June 25, 2012 1:32:31 PM UTC+1, Special Care wrote:
> > > I might have mentioned this before.
> > > I advise you to get a copy of
> > > “Jack the Ripper - the Final Solution”
> > > by Stephen Knight,
> > > published 1976.
>
> I got my copy this morning,,,
> very small print,,,
> I find it difficult to read...
>
I tried but,, it's a dry old bone
> On Monday, June 25, 2012 6:48:47 PM UTC+1, (unknown) wrote:
> > On Monday, June 25, 2012 1:32:31 PM UTC+1, Special Care wrote:
> > > I might have mentioned this before.
> > > I advise you to get a copy of
> > > “Jack the Ripper - the Final Solution”
> > > by Stephen Knight,
> > > published 1976.
>
> I got my copy this morning,,,
> very small print,,,
> I find it difficult to read...
>
that one,, cant see it inspiring
an aspiring Ripper either...
There was an earlier book in 72..
and many others I suppose...
Hard to believe so many picking over
the old bones when there is such a
juicy puzzle on the table...
So much more to be learned about
our world of today by studying
the Yorkshire Ripper case...
The 1888 clatter about was just
the seed wot spawned the monster,,
(the whole case,, press,,
public outrage,,, dotguv cure,,
Peter Placebo,, the Humble pickle,,
and even a dead mans fession thrown in
for good measure...
Fishing parties on the net..
The scale of the charade,,,
burdened wi impossible solutions
like that..
It's fit to bust at the seems...
An yet no one can or will speak up..
Yea,, tha's far more gravy here
than wi Sickerts auld goose...
.........................
Old Jinglebollocks
Jul 3, 2012, 8:43:33 AM7/3/12
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POOR OLD OLDFIELD:
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NEW DAWN IN THE WEST RIDING:
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