IPSO is a joke

Judith

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Dec 23, 2015, 1:27:23 PM12/23/15

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The Sun has been forced to print a front-page correction over a claim that the
Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn was willing to join the privy council because his
party stood to benefit financially.

Accordingly, the Sun printed 11 words in the bottom left corner of the front
page of Tuesday’s edition in a space roughly 15mm by 35mm. The rest of the IPSO
adjudication appeared on page two.

I have always said that in such circumstances - the correction should take up
exactly the same space and location as the original articles.

IPSO is a joke: and of course Rupert Murdoch’s British newspaper stable was a
prime mover in the founding of it.

No problem there then.

(The fact that Murdoch is frequently in bed with either Cameron or Osborne
means it is likely that the regulation of the press will be as unregulated as
it is now, for some time to come)

Roland Perry

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Dec 23, 2015, 1:41:47 PM12/23/15

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In message <1fgl7b5g2g5ik98er...@4ax.com>, at 15:48:12 on
Wed, 23 Dec 2015, Judith <jmsmi...@hotmail.co.uk> remarked:

>The Sun has been forced to print a front-page correction over a claim that the
>Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn was willing to join the privy council because his
>party stood to benefit financially.
>
>Accordingly, the Sun printed 11 words in the bottom left corner of the front
>page of Tuesday’s edition in a space roughly 15mm by 35mm. The rest of the IPSO
>adjudication appeared on page two.

Which complies with the ruling that it should be on page four or
earlier.

>I have always said that in such circumstances - the correction should take up
>exactly the same space and location as the original articles.

Good luck with that, in the cases I've been involved with, the inclusion
of anything at all on the front page is regarded as a major win.
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Roland Perry

Roger Hayter

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Dec 23, 2015, 2:07:29 PM12/23/15

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Roland Perry <rol...@perry.co.uk> wrote:

> In message <1fgl7b5g2g5ik98er...@4ax.com>,
> at 15:48:12 on
> Wed, 23 Dec 2015, Judith <jmsmi...@hotmail.co.uk> remarked:
> >The Sun has been forced to print a front-page correction over a claim
> >that the Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn was willing to join the privy
> >council because his party stood to benefit financially.
> >
> >Accordingly, the Sun printed 11 words in the bottom left corner of the

> >front page of Tuesdayâ•˙s edition in a space roughly 15mm by 35mm. The

> >rest of the IPSO adjudication appeared on page two.
>
> Which complies with the ruling that it should be on page four or
> earlier.
>
> >I have always said that in such circumstances - the correction should take up
> >exactly the same space and location as the original articles.
>
> Good luck with that, in the cases I've been involved with, the inclusion
> of anything at all on the front page is regarded as a major win.

Equal prominence for corrections has always been a popular demand from
people wronged by the press. but no-one else seems keen on it. Not even
the recent enquiry. (Was it a Hutton?)

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Roger Hayter

Big Les Wade

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Dec 23, 2015, 3:08:42 PM12/23/15

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Roland Perry <rol...@perry.co.uk> posted

>In message <1fgl7b5g2g5ik98er...@4ax.com>, at 15:48:12 on
>Wed, 23 Dec 2015, Judith <jmsmi...@hotmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>The Sun has been forced to print a front-page correction over a claim that the
>>Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn was willing to join the privy council because his
>>party stood to benefit financially.
>>
>>Accordingly, the Sun printed 11 words in the bottom left corner of the front

>>page of Tuesdayâ€™s edition in a space roughly 15mm by 35mm. The

>>rest of the IPSO
>>adjudication appeared on page two.
>
>Which complies with the ruling that it should be on page four or
>earlier.
>
>>I have always said that in such circumstances - the correction should take up
>>exactly the same space and location as the original articles.
>
>Good luck with that, in the cases I've been involved with, the inclusion
>of anything at all on the front page is regarded as a major win.

But in this case the front-page "item" reads "IPSO complaint on Labour
short money is upheld".

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWyJhNfWcAEL_Ph.jpg:large

It doesn't even sound as if it is anything to do with the Sun. In fact
it sounds like a complaint has been upheld against Labour over short
money.

Grossly dishonest, but I suppose no more so than one would expect from
the scum who write the Sun.

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Les

R. Mark Clayton

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Dec 23, 2015, 3:11:43 PM12/23/15

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Selective memory.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/murdochs-courtship-of-blair-finally-pays-off-1144087.html

but really it was the other way round - Blair flew all the way to Oz to brown-nose Murdoch in 1995 and sure enough the Sun back Bliar into the 1997 general election and Blair's government never did anything about Murdoch's monopoly on English language satellite broadcast TV. Blair was even godfather to one of Murdoch's kids. Things cooled recently when Murdoch allegedly discovered that things had got hot* between Blair and his wife, whom he divorced.

By contrast Elton John got a full page "Sorry Elton", although I can't remember what for.

* so who was frequently in bed with who?

Roland Perry

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Dec 23, 2015, 4:03:23 PM12/23/15

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In message <1mfwcrx.u71ak8waaj4lN%ro...@hayter.org>, at 19:04:00 on Wed,
23 Dec 2015, Roger Hayter <ro...@hayter.org> remarked:

>> >I have always said that in such circumstances - the correction should take up
>> >exactly the same space and location as the original articles.
>>
>> Good luck with that, in the cases I've been involved with, the inclusion
>> of anything at all on the front page is regarded as a major win.
>
>Equal prominence for corrections has always been a popular demand from
>people wronged by the press. but no-one else seems keen on it. Not even
>the recent enquiry. (Was it a Hutton?)

The view from the newspapers is that anything at all on the front page
which isn't the latest scandal/news should stick out like a sore thumb,
whatever size it is.
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Roland Perry

Steve Walker

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Dec 23, 2015, 6:18:30 PM12/23/15

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On 23/12/2015 19:07, Big Les Wade wrote:

> But in this case the front-page "item" reads "IPSO complaint on Labour
> short money is upheld".
>
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWyJhNfWcAEL_Ph.jpg:large
>
> It doesn't even sound as if it is anything to do with the Sun. In fact
> it sounds like a complaint has been upheld against Labour over short
> money.
>
> Grossly dishonest, but I suppose no more so than one would expect from
> the scum who write the Sun.

Yes, it's shabby. But to be honest I wouldn't expect much better from
most of Fleet Street. They all play this dirty game, and rely on the
cost of legal proceedings to deter people from challenging them.

Disappointing that IPSO seems to be as pathetic as the PCC was. But
again it was to be expected - all the panels and committees are packed
with gutter-press stooges, it will be neutered from within.

Judith

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Dec 24, 2015, 9:09:37 AM12/24/15

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Which is of course precisely the problem which needs rectifying.

As the thread subject says: IPSO is a joke

Judith

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Dec 24, 2015, 9:10:28 AM12/24/15

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On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 19:07:42 +0000, Big Les Wade <L...@nowhere.com> wrote:

<snip>

>Grossly dishonest, but I suppose no more so than one would expect from
>the scum who write the Sun.

Now, now - Mr Murdoch is a very good friend of Mr Cameron and Mr Osborne (a
very nice drinks party last night) - we are not going to see any legislation
on this matter any time soon. But something should be done.

Judith

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Dec 24, 2015, 9:15:12 AM12/24/15

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On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 12:08:42 -0800 (PST), "R. Mark Clayton"
<notya...@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>

>* so who was frequently in bed with who?

You may have noticed the words "is frequently" - rather than "was frequently".
I always think that just because one Government did something years ago, it
does not make it acceptable for the current Government to do the same thing.

You may have also seen:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
George Osborne met Rupert Murdoch twice in June, days before the Treasury
foisted a controversial funding deal on the BBC in which the broadcaster was
told it would have to pay the £700m cost of funding TV licences for the
over-75s.

The chancellor also met senior News Corp executives and editors four more times
after the general election on 7 May before informing the BBC about the proposed
funding settlement officially on 3 July. It was publicly announced three days
later.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

AND only this week

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

David Cameron was joined by George Osborne at Rupert Murdoch’s Christmas house
party on Monday night, an event where half the Conservative cabinet went to
toast the media magnate.
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It all seems so very nice and cosy

Roland Perry

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Dec 24, 2015, 9:25:11 AM12/24/15

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In message <g6nn7blqvncprt743...@4ax.com>, at 11:54:02 on
Thu, 24 Dec 2015, Judith <jmsmi...@hotmail.co.uk> remarked:

>>The view from the newspapers is that anything at all on the front page
>>which isn't the latest scandal/news should stick out like a sore thumb,
>>whatever size it is.
>
>Which is of course precisely the problem which needs rectifying.

Anything on the front page is by definition "front page news", however
big the typeface.
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Roland Perry