Toilet cistern filling up past level

[Bob H]

We have one of these new type 2 button push type cistern/toilets and
have just noticed, well heard it really, that it is filling up after a
flush past the water level which is marked on the inside.
Consequently it is constantly running, and as it is a new type I have no
idea on how to stop it.

So over to you guys if someone could point me in the right direction.

[Graham.]

Quite separate from the flush valve with the push buttons, there will
be an inlet valve. This will either be a conventional type with a big
ball float, or a torbeck type with a smaller cylindrical float. Which
is it?

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Graham.

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[The Medway Handyman]

I constantly get "my toilet won't stop flushing" calls. As Graham says,
it's the fill valve needs adjusting/replacing.

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Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

[Bob H]

On 15/08/2013 00:40, Graham. wrote:

I have repaired a few of the old type cisterns, but not sure what to do
with this type:

This shows where the water comes in:
http://www.bob2cat.org.uk/Pictures/Cistern/IMG_0478.JPG

This shows the small nylon float:
http://www.bob2cat.org.uk/Pictures/Cistern/IMG_0479.JPG

This one shows the water level marker and where the water is above that
as it is filling:
http://www.bob2cat.org.uk/Pictures/Cistern/IMG_0480.JPG

[Bob H]

On 15/08/2013 00:40, Graham. wrote:

I have repaired a few of the old type cisterns, but not sure what to do
with this type:

This one shows the water level marker and where the water is above that
as it is filling:
http://www.bob2cat.org.uk/Pictures/Cistern/IMG_0478.JPG

This shows the small nylon float:
http://www.bob2cat.org.uk/Pictures/Cistern/IMG_0479.JPG

This shows the water level marker:
http://www.bob2cat.org.uk/Pictures/Cistern/IMG_0480.JPG

[DerbyBorn]

It seems that every man and his dog has been inventing cistern valves!

Incidentally - I think the small ball is to do with shutting off the flush
when complete.

[Bob H]

I found this from a google search on how to adjust a torbeck:

http://www.fluidmasteruk.com/downloadable/download/sample/sample_id/63/

But mine doesn't look like that as you can see from the pictures I
linked in a followup post below.

[Tim Downie]

Part of the problem with these new valves is that it's hard to see where the
water is overflowing from. It could be due to overfilling but it's also
possible that it's the flapper valve mechanism not reseating properly.

Try and establish if the flapper valve isn't reseating properly (usually a
bit of jiggling by hand will get the flap to drop down again if it's
sticking) or whether ther water is going over the top of an "overflow"
straight down into the pan. If you can see it over-topping the overflow
then it's your fill valve that's faulty.

They seem to be susceptable to small particles of grit so simply (well, I
say "simply" but it rather depends on the valve and access) disassembling
everything and cleaning may sort your problem.

Sometimes replacing the whole shebang is just simpler and quicker.

Tim

[Dave W]

Looking at your first photo, I would guess that the squarish white
thing to the left is the float, connected by the orange lever to the
grey circular hinged cap top left. I believe the valve is made by
Wirquin and the orange lever looks like their Jollyfill range. Here is
a faultfinding guide:
http://www.wirquin.com/visuels%20GB/notices%20UK/trouble%20shooter/jollyfill%20trouble%20shooter.pdf
It seems you rotate the orange knob above the float to raise and lower
it, to adjust the water level.
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[Bob H]

I noticed last night when or during the refill of the cistern, as it
crept above the refill line it started to go down the main hole, and by
that I mean the top of the red plastic pipe? in the middle of the actual
cistern.

[The Medway Handyman]

On 15/08/2013 11:49, Tim Downie wrote:

Nothing wrong with the old fashioned siphon. Why did someone feel the
need to 'improve' it?

[charles]

In article <4Q7Pt.19867$Yd5....@fx30.am4>, The Medway Handyman

I understand from a plumber it was because "it used too much water".

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[Bob H]

Thanks for the link, and I have saved it to print off later.

I don't know why it suddenly started to overflow, but the strangest
thing is, that it seems to have put itself right now!

It is not overflowing and running into the basin as it did last night.

[Jack]

replying to Bob H, Jack wrote:
The inlet valve on the Jollyfill product has a very small plastic aperture
which protrudes through the diaphragm washer. This can get clogged with
impurities (e.g. after supply disruption) and will stop the valve reseating,
hence the overflow. Turn water off, unscrew top of inlet assembly, remove the
diaphragm washer and clean out the gunk in the vent and replace. The
alternative is to fit a new washer (£2.89 on EBay).

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[Jack]

replying to Bob H, Jack wrote:
The inlet valve on the Jollyfill product has a very small plastic aperture
which protrudes through the diaphragm washer. This can get clogged with
impurities (e.g. after supply disruption) and will stop the valve reseating,
hence the overflow. Turn water off, unscrew top of inlet assembly, remove the

diaphragm washer and clean out the gunk in the vent with a needle and replace.

[Vir Campestris]

That homeowner shub thingy must be pretty hard to use if it didn't let
you know this was sorted out in August 2013.

Get yourself a real newsreader.

<http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?title=Newsgroup_access_tips>

Andy

[F]

On 24/03/2016 20:44, Jack wrote:

> --
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> uk.d-i-y and other home improvement groups

I think that should read 'leached from uk.d-i-y...'

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