OT: Adjustamatic Riser Recliner Chairs
John
My in-law's are both in their mid-seventies and both suffer from poor
circulation problems. I don't know if it was a doorstep salesman or if
they saw it in a magazine but two days ago they were given a
demonstration of an Adjustomatic Bed in their own home - apparently the
guy took a bed and plonked it in their living room and they each had
half an hour lying down on this bed which vibrates and massages.
Mother-in-law said that it helped with the pain she gets so on the
strength of that she's signed up to buy a Riser Recliner Chair that also
vibrates and massages - and no, I don't understand the logic there
either, although she does struggle to sit in or get out of the current
chair she has.
The Adjustamatic Denbigh 2000 Riser Recliner Chair is to be paid for by
monthly installments of 69 quid/month for five years, making a total of
about £4,100.
http://www.adjustablebeds.com/recliner-chair-buying-guide
I don't know anything about the company and I don't know if she's being
ripped off or if it's a genuine deal. She has a 'cooling off' period of
14 days so I was wondering if anyone here has experience of these
things? Do they work? Are they as good as the company claims? They say
that they are the only company doing these things but is that true, or
could she get the same sort of thing anywhere else at lower cost?
Thanks
Nightjar
>
>
> My in-law's are both in their mid-seventies and both suffer from poor
> circulation problems. I don't know if it was a doorstep salesman or if
> they saw it in a magazine but two days ago they were given a
> demonstration of an Adjustomatic Bed in their own home - apparently the
> guy took a bed and plonked it in their living room and they each had
> half an hour lying down on this bed which vibrates and massages.
>
> Mother-in-law said that it helped with the pain she gets so on the
> strength of that she's signed up to buy a Riser Recliner Chair that also
> vibrates and massages - and no, I don't understand the logic there
> either, although she does struggle to sit in or get out of the current
> chair she has.
>
> The Adjustamatic Denbigh 2000 Riser Recliner Chair is to be paid for by
> monthly installments of 69 quid/month for five years, making a total of
> about £4,100.
>
> http://www.adjustablebeds.com/recliner-chair-buying-guide
>
> I don't know anything about the company and I don't know if she's being
> ripped off or if it's a genuine deal. She has a 'cooling off' period of
> 14 days so I was wondering if anyone here has experience of these
> things? Do they work?
All the makers say they do.
> Are they as good as the company claims? They say
> that they are the only company doing these things but is that true,
No.
> or
> could she get the same sort of thing anywhere else at lower cost?
A quick Google brings up massaging riser recliner chairs starting at
about £1,500. Plain riser recliners are mostly in the £400-£800 range.
Electric massage chairs, without the riser option, start at around £140.
Massage chair covers are available at around £40. Your in-laws seem to
have chosen one of the most expensive options available.
Colin Bignell
Tony Bryer
> I don't know anything about the company and I don't know if she's being
> ripped off or if it's a genuine deal. She has a 'cooling off' period of
> 14 days so I was wondering if anyone here has experience of these
> things? Do they work? Are they as good as the company claims? They say
> that they are the only company doing these things but is that true, or
> could she get the same sort of thing anywhere else at lower cost?
Looked at the website and you can only get a price list by parting with
your name and address. Alarm bells. On the plus side Adjustamatic Beds
Limited has been registered since 1982 - though who is the contract with?
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John
c...@insert.my.surname.here.me.uk says...
Thanks very much for that Colin, just the sort of thing I was after.
Cheers.
John
to...@delme.greentram.com says...
>
> On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 11:56:27 +0100 John wrote :
> > I don't know anything about the company and I don't know if she's being
> > ripped off or if it's a genuine deal. She has a 'cooling off' period of
> > 14 days so I was wondering if anyone here has experience of these
> > things? Do they work? Are they as good as the company claims? They say
> > that they are the only company doing these things but is that true, or
> > could she get the same sort of thing anywhere else at lower cost?
>
> Looked at the website and you can only get a price list by parting with
> your name and address. Alarm bells. On the plus side Adjustamatic Beds
> Limited has been registered since 1982 - though who is the contract with?
Thanks very much Tony, much appreciated.
Roger Mills
>
>
I don't know anything about that particular company, but four grand
seems like a ridiculously high price for one chair. How much of that is
interest? What would the cash price be?
Also, if M-i-L has a disability which would be helped by this chair, she
should be able to get it VAT-free. Has the firm given her a declaration
to sign in order not to pay VAT? [You don't normally need a doctor to
certify need - you can do it yourself].
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John
says...
To be honest Roger, I don't know. She's 130 miles away and was all fired
up to order after the demo but my S-i-L who lives close to her put some
doubt in her mind so she rang us for a 'second opinion' as it were.
> Also, if M-i-L has a disability which would be helped by this chair, she
> should be able to get it VAT-free. Has the firm given her a declaration
> to sign in order not to pay VAT? [You don't normally need a doctor to
> certify need - you can do it yourself].
Ah right, didn't know that, so thanks very much sir :-)
Ericp
We have had Adjustamatic beds for decades and they are so good we will
not part with them.
However as has been said chairs of this nature, particularly without
the wobble motor are available in the high street for £500+ and the
price charged here is ridiculous.
Geoff Pearson
"Ericp" <er...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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Most people who buy this sort of kit never use it after the first week. The
positions offered are not comfortable long term. They have no resale
value - no one wants them without the hard sell.
John
er...@blueyonder.co.uk says...
Thanks very much Eric, good to know.
John
The Medway Handyman
>
>
> circulation problems. I don't know if it was a doorstep salesman or if
> they saw it in a magazine but two days ago they were given a
> demonstration of an Adjustomatic Bed in their own home - apparently the
> guy took a bed and plonked it in their living room and they each had
> half an hour lying down on this bed which vibrates and massages.
>
> Mother-in-law said that it helped with the pain she gets so on the
> strength of that she's signed up to buy a Riser Recliner Chair that also
> vibrates and massages - and no, I don't understand the logic there
> either, although she does struggle to sit in or get out of the current
> chair she has.
>
> The Adjustamatic Denbigh 2000 Riser Recliner Chair is to be paid for by
> monthly installments of 69 quid/month for five years, making a total of
> about £4,100.
>
Sorry, this is going to sound awful, but I wonder how that works for the
company?
What would happen if someone in their mid 70's passed away before the 5
years payments were made?
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Nightjar
The chair company will get their money, and probably a commission, from
a finance company. The finance company will normally require compulsory
insurance to cover their risk. The insurance company will use actuarial
tables to set the premiums so that, on average, they make a profit.
Colin Bignell
Phil L
The fact that she's being charged four grand for a chair answers your own
question as to wether she's being ripped off or not.
If she's intent on having one, she'll probably get a decent 2nd hand one,
given that they are targetted at the elderly and or disabled...there's
probably hundreds of em on fleabay
Phil L
>
> Sorry, this is going to sound awful, but I wonder how that works for
> the company?
>
> What would happen if someone in their mid 70's passed away before the
> 5 years payments were made?
like stairlifts, they come and take it away, recondition and re-sell for
another 4 grand
Harry Bloomfield
> John wrote:
>> My in-law's are both in their mid-seventies and both suffer from poor
>> circulation problems. I don't know if it was a doorstep salesman or if
>> they saw it in a magazine but two days ago they were given a
>> demonstration of an Adjustomatic Bed in their own home - apparently
>> the guy took a bed and plonked it in their living room and they each
>> had half an hour lying down on this bed which vibrates and massages.
>>
>> Mother-in-law said that it helped with the pain she gets so on the
>> strength of that she's signed up to buy a Riser Recliner Chair that
>> also vibrates and massages - and no, I don't understand the logic
>> there either, although she does struggle to sit in or get out of the
>> current chair she has.
>>
>> The Adjustamatic Denbigh 2000 Riser Recliner Chair is to be paid for
>> by monthly installments of 69 quid/month for five years, making a
>>
>> http://www.adjustablebeds.com/recliner-chair-buying-guide
>>
>> I don't know anything about the company and I don't know if she's
>> being ripped off or if it's a genuine deal. She has a 'cooling off'
>> period of 14 days so I was wondering if anyone here has experience of
>> these things? Do they work? Are they as good as the company claims?
>> They say that they are the only company doing these things but is
>> that true, or could she get the same sort of thing anywhere else at
>> lower cost?
>>
>> Thanks
>
> The fact that she's being charged four grand for a chair answers your own
> question as to wether she's being ripped off or not.
>
> If she's intent on having one, she'll probably get a decent 2nd hand one,
> given that they are targetted at the elderly and or disabled...there's
> probably hundreds of em on fleabay
Ebay Item number: 120762445859 ￜ50 with 3 hours to run and no bids.
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Harry Bloomfield
> Phil L has brought this to us :
>> John wrote:
>>> My in-law's are both in their mid-seventies and both suffer from poor
>>> circulation problems. I don't know if it was a doorstep salesman or if
>>> they saw it in a magazine but two days ago they were given a
>>> demonstration of an Adjustomatic Bed in their own home - apparently
>>> the guy took a bed and plonked it in their living room and they each
>>> had half an hour lying down on this bed which vibrates and massages.
>>>
>>> Mother-in-law said that it helped with the pain she gets so on the
>>> strength of that she's signed up to buy a Riser Recliner Chair that
>>> also vibrates and massages - and no, I don't understand the logic
>>> there either, although she does struggle to sit in or get out of the
>>> current chair she has.
>>>
>>> The Adjustamatic Denbigh 2000 Riser Recliner Chair is to be paid for
>>> by monthly installments of 69 quid/month for five years, making a
>>>
>>> http://www.adjustablebeds.com/recliner-chair-buying-guide
>>>
>>> I don't know anything about the company and I don't know if she's
>>> being ripped off or if it's a genuine deal. She has a 'cooling off'
>>> period of 14 days so I was wondering if anyone here has experience of
>>> these things? Do they work? Are they as good as the company claims?
>>> They say that they are the only company doing these things but is
>>> that true, or could she get the same sort of thing anywhere else at
>>> lower cost?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>
>> The fact that she's being charged four grand for a chair answers your own
>> question as to wether she's being ripped off or not.
>>
>> If she's intent on having one, she'll probably get a decent 2nd hand one,
>> given that they are targetted at the elderly and or disabled...there's
>> probably hundreds of em on fleabay
>
Or brand new Item number: 110687937852 £349
Harry Bloomfield
Somebody is making rather a lot of money out of selling to the elderly.
Owain
> > The Adjustamatic Denbigh 2000 Riser Recliner Chair is to be paid for by
> > monthly installments of 69 quid/month for five years, making a total of
> > about £4,100.
> Sorry, this is going to sound awful, but I wonder how that works for the
> company?
> What would happen if someone in their mid 70's passed away before the 5
> years payments were made?
The manufacturing cost of the chair is probably paid off in the first
year.
Everything else is profit (or salesman's bonus).
Owain
Grimly Curmudgeon
drugs began to take hold. I remember Harry Bloomfield
<harry...@NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> saying something like:
>Somebody is making rather a lot of money out of selling to the elderly.
It's an old racket - I recall glossy magazine ads from the 70s, punting
similar things at least twice the price, to elderly folk or their
relatives.
Roger Mills
>>
>> Ebay Item number: 120762445859 £50 with 3 hours to run and no bids.
>
> Or brand new Item number: 110687937852 £349
>
I think the one cited by the OP had built-in massaging facilities, which
these two don't - so you might expect to pay £500 or £600, but not four
grand!!
astarplu...@gmail.com
The Natural Philosopher
> wrote:
>
>> Just been to southport flower show where I tried the adjustamatic recliner. Having a medical condition they would have let me have it vat free. The cost of the chair was £4100 without VAT and the guy was willing to give me 15% off but I would have still been paying over £60 per month for 5 years. How ever the chair was extremely comfortable but I would hv needed a mortgage to buy one.
>
> mother a few years ago for £1500 and I thought that was a bit pricey.
> Can't remember the make, but the local firm that supplied it,
> HSC-Mobility, has riser-recliners starting at ~£600 or ~£750 depending
> on model. If you Google for riser recliner chairs you get lots of
> firms who supply them, so you can research their prices.
>
A lot of geriatric kit goes for peanuts second hand.
For reasons you can probably understand.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/rise-recline-chair
How does £90 grab you?
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dennis@home
> On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 10:42:18 -0700 (PDT), astarplu...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>
> mother a few years ago for £1500 and I thought that was a bit pricey.
> Can't remember the make, but the local firm that supplied it,
> HSC-Mobility, has riser-recliners starting at ~£600 or ~£750 depending
> on model. If you Google for riser recliner chairs you get lots of
> firms who supply them, so you can research their prices.
>
recliner but it came with a riser/recliner mechanism.
I never use the riser except to play with but it only cost £300 for the
chair so where they get these stupid prices from I have no idea.
There are just two motors instead of one and it came with a standby
rechargeable battery pack with enough charge to lift the chair once.
It wasn't from a mobility specialist but a furniture shop that was in
Merry Hill.
tim...
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> mother a few years ago for £1500 and I thought that was a bit pricey.
> Can't remember the make, but the local firm that supplied it,
> HSC-Mobility, has riser-recliners starting at ~£600 or ~£750 depending
> on model. If you Google for riser recliner chairs you get lots of
> firms who supply them, so you can research their prices.
even HSL sell them
tim
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Adrian Caspersz
Profit margins on these type of
> products are obscene at the best of times, but £4100 is "havin a
> larf"
it as paypal for the vulnerable.
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have near zero value. Unless you really must have brand new.
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