How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac

[David_B]

Most readers here probably know already but, just in case some don't,
there's a comprehensive summary here:-

https://setapp.com/how-to/type-special-keyboard-symbols-on-mac

It's always good to have a reminder anyway!

[Snit]

As an addition to that: any System Service you have that shows up in the
Application > Services menu can be given a custom hotkey the same way.

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and ignore the message time and time again.

[David_B]

On 09/08/2020 09:16, Snit wrote:
> David_B <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> Most readers here probably know already but, just in case some don't,
>> there's a comprehensive summary here:-
>>
>> https://setapp.com/how-to/type-special-keyboard-symbols-on-mac
>>
>> It's always good to have a reminder anyway!
>>
>
> As an addition to that: any System Service you have that shows up in the
> Application > Services menu can be given a custom hotkey the same way.

Please will you show me that?

TIA

[Snit]

I might make a video of it if needed, but here is one example:

In the Finder you can press Command+Up and move up a directory. You used to be
able to do this in Safari as well. No more... now you have to edit the URL
itself to go up a directory in a website. Sometimes this makes sense to do.
Sometimes not. I can see why Apple stopped backing it as an easy option...
even if I liked it.

So I created a System Service to do so (I can share the code if you want) and
set it to run just in Safari. For some time I had it set to be the "standard"
Command+Up, but later changed it to be Command+Control+Option+Up... most of my
custom ones are like that.

To set the hot key I did much what is described in the article: I went to
System Preferences > Keyboard > Shortcuts ... but instead of going to App
Shortcuts I went to Services. From there you get a list of all Services (both
Apple provided and ones you have added) and you can set the hot key by
clicking the option to the right of the name of the service.

If that does not make sense I can show you a video of it later.

[Snit]

On Aug 9, 2020 at 12:03:06 PM MST, "Snit" <use...@gallopinginsanity.com>
wrote:

In this video I do show using one of the System Services and mention that I
have a hot key (and you can see them in the menu). I set them up the way
described... but can make a more specific video if needed:

https://youtu.be/LO3pfF7xX1o

[David_B]

Thanks for showing me that. I've no idea WHY you'd want to be doing that
though! ;-)

Sadly, I do not understand "Command+Up"

Is this a joke, perhaps? I never HAVE found the 'ANY' key!

Now I cannot find the 'Up' key!

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Kind regards,
David

[Your Name]

Obviously it's the upwards arrow cursor key, or if you've got an
extended keyboard there's the Page Up key too.

[Snit]

On Aug 10, 2020 at 2:33:54 PM MST, "David_B" <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org>

I do not use it often, but there have been times I am looking to see if any
one of a number of sites updates.

> Sadly, I do not understand "Command+Up"

Command+Up Arrow.

If you do that in a folder on the Finder it will take you up the path. You can
even do it from the desktop (the Desktop folder sits in your user folder). I
sometimes do this with folks who have tons of files on their desktop -- allows
me to view the files in an alphabetical list or by last opened or the like.

> Is this a joke, perhaps? I never HAVE found the 'ANY' key!
>
> Now I cannot find the 'Up' key!

Sorry: should have said up arrow.

[Snit]

In this case it was the up arrow... and given how there are multiple "up"
buttons it would have been good of me to be more specific.

[David_B]

No worries, Snit. Thank you for clarifying. :-D

Have YOU ever found the 'ANY' key?

[Graham J]

David_B wrote:

[snip]

>
> Have YOU ever found the 'ANY' key?
>

Or from the chemistry textbook, asking for "copious water" in order to
wash or cool something. "Please sir, where is the copious water tap?"


--
Graham J

[David_B]

It's more complicated than some folk might think!

https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk01PvwhjTgcQspP-20tHZo2koKzKZg:1597134529243&q=Where+is+up+arrow+on+Mac+keyboard%3F&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjxmZji3ZLrAhVdRhUIHYdSCicQzmd6BAgMEAs&biw=2482&bih=1249&dpr=2

Thanks for replying. :-D

[David_B]

Or being sent to the stores to ask for a long stand?

[Wolffan]

On 11 Aug 2020, Jolly Roger wrote
(in article <hpg1og...@mid.individual.net>):

> On 2020-08-10, David_B<Dav...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> > On 09/08/2020 21:05, Snit wrote:
> > > On Aug 9, 2020 at 12:03:06 PM MST, "Snit"<use...@gallopinginsanity.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Aug 9, 2020 at 1:59:38 AM MST, "David_B"<Dav...@nomail.afraid.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > On 09/08/2020 09:16, Snit wrote:
> > > > > > David_B <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > Most readers here probably know already but, just in case some don't,
> > > > > > > there's a comprehensive summary here:-
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://setapp.com/how-to/type-special-keyboard-symbols-on-mac
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It's always good to have a reminder anyway!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As an addition to that: any System Service you have that shows up in the
> > > > > > Application > Services menu can be given a custom hotkey the same way.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please will you show me that?
> > > >

> > > > I might make a video of it if needed, but here is one example:
> > > >

> > > > [snip]

> >
> > Thanks for showing me that. I've no idea WHY you'd want to be doing that
> > though! ;-)
>

> You literally *asked* him to show you three lines up, dipshit.

Troll-boy Brooks ‘forgets’ alot.

It’s all that alcohol he imbibes, it screws up the function of his one
remaining brain cell even more than that poor thing already is.

[Your Name]

"Copious" is a measurement, not a type. "Copious" is bigger than a cup
but smaller than a bucket. ;-)

[Your Name]

The ^ symbol is called a "Caret", bt is also known as "hat", "roof", or
"house" ... but not "up" nor "arrow", (at least not by 'normal'
people). It is also often used as a stand-in for the Control key / Ctrl
key in keyboard shortcuts (for example shown on the right-hand side of
some menu options).

[John Hill]

Or maybe a bucket of steam?

--
Today is the Tomorrow we worried about yesterday, and all is well.

[bob]

A guy I knew was sent off to get a Record Weight.

Robin

[David_B]

On 11/08/2020 18:10, Jolly Roger wrote:

> On 2020-08-10, David_B <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> On 09/08/2020 21:05, Snit wrote:
>>> On Aug 9, 2020 at 12:03:06 PM MST, "Snit" <use...@gallopinginsanity.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Aug 9, 2020 at 1:59:38 AM MST, "David_B" <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>> On 09/08/2020 09:16, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> David_B <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> Most readers here probably know already but, just in case some don't,
>>>>>>> there's a comprehensive summary here:-
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://setapp.com/how-to/type-special-keyboard-symbols-on-mac
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's always good to have a reminder anyway!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As an addition to that: any System Service you have that shows up in the
>>>>>> Application > Services menu can be given a custom hotkey the same way.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please will you show me that?
>>>>

>>>> I might make a video of it if needed, but here is one example:
>>>>

>>>> [snip]

>>
>> Thanks for showing me that. I've no idea WHY you'd want to be doing that
>> though! ;-)
>

> You literally *asked* him to show you three lines up, David.

The good news is that Snit had no need to make a video after all! :-D

[David_B]

Wolffan is a *LIAR* :-(

[Wolffan]

On 12 Aug 2020, David_B wrote
(in article <j_QYG.272650$vLb.1...@fx43.ams1>):

> Wolffan is a *LIAR* :-(

Nope. You merely don’t like it when I expose you for what you are.

Has Supernews got back to you yet, troll-boy?

[Wolffan]

On 12 Aug 2020, Jolly Roger wrote
(in article <hpiffq...@mid.individual.net>):

> > > You literally *asked* him to show you three lines up, dipshit.

> >
> > The good news is that Snit had no need to make a video after all! :-D
>

> You're an idiot.

This has been clear for a very long time.

[Wolffan]

On 12 Aug 2020, Wolffan wrote
(in article<0001HW.24E4187900...@news.supernews.com>):

Ah. I see. Troll-boy posted a _binary_ to a _text-only_ newsgroup, _knowing_
that most newsfeeds strip binaries. He’s been told as much several times,
including at least twice by me. He didn’t want me to see his reply... Damn,
he’s an idiot.

[Alan Baker]

Except...

...just like you all the time...

...they get basic facts wrong:

'Similarly, a degree symbol on Mac (º) is Option + Zero'

That is simply wrong.

The degree symbol is Option-Shift-8: "°"

The Option-0 combination looks very similar: "º", but it is actually the
"masculine ordinal indicator" (i.e. 1º for "first") in languages such as
Spanish, Portugese, Italian...

There is also a feminine ordinal indicator: "ª"...

...and the key combination is Option-9

[Your Name]

Yep. Option-zero is basically a superscript letter O, which can look a
bit fancy in some fonts, for example thicker on the sides and thinner
on the top and bottom. The shift-option-8 degrees symbol is simply a
plain circle in every font (or at least those it is defined in). The
difference can easily be seen by using a font size like 120pt in a
serif font such as Palatino.

[David_B]

I posted in good faith, Alan. :-(

I expect you've already written to the originator to point out their
errors. That's what a good guy would do! ;-)

On a different subject ...

*Supernews says Wolffan is not one of their customers*.
I received an email this morning advising me of that fact.

Can you tell that Wolffan's header has been forged?

Here’s the header of one of his recent posts:-


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On 18 Aug 2020, David_B wrote
(in article <V0Y_G.97031$8b2....@fx07.ams1>):

> On 18/08/2020 19:13, Snit wrote:
> > On Aug 18, 2020 at 10:17:06 AM MST, "Wolffan" <akwo...@zoho.com>
wrote:
> >
> > > On 17 Aug 2020, David_B wrote
> > > (in article <E9C_G.337814$F86....@fx36.ams1>):
> > >
> > > > -
> > > > David_B.
> > > > Group Moderator
> > >
> > > You cannot be the moderator, as a.c.w is not a moderated group.
This has
> > > been
> > >
> > > pointed out to you before. Nop doubt your high alcohol intake
made you
> > > ‘forget’ again, troll-boy.
> >
> > If you keep saying that he will ban you.
>
> I will!

you can’t, troll-boy.

[Wolffan]

On 20 Aug 2020, David_B wrote
(in article <kuq%G.45743$cv1....@fx01.ams1>):

> On 20/08/2020 00:48, Alan Baker wrote:
> > On 2020-08-09 12:13 a.m., David_B wrote:
> > > Most readers here probably know already but, just in case some don't,
> > > there's a comprehensive summary here:-
> > >
> > > https://setapp.com/how-to/type-special-keyboard-symbols-on-mac
> > >
> > > It's always good to have a reminder anyway!
> >
> > Except...
> >
> > ...just like you all the time...
> >
> > ...they get basic facts wrong:
> >
> > 'Similarly, a degree symbol on Mac (º) is Option + Zero'
> >
> > That is simply wrong.
> >
> > The degree symbol is Option-Shift-8: "°"
> >
> > The Option-0 combination looks very similar: "º", but it is actually the
> > "masculine ordinal indicator" (i.e. 1º for "first") in languages such as
> > Spanish, Portugese, Italian...
> >
> > There is also a feminine ordinal indicator: "ª"...
> >
> > ...and the key combination is Option-9
>
> I posted in good faith, Alan. :-(

you posted in your usual idiotic way. You posted without thinking, as your
one remaining neuron is too alcohol-soaked to work properly. You posted
without checking, which would have taken mere seconds. You posted damn
foolishness, because you’re a damn fool.

>
>
> I expect you've already written to the originator to point out their
> errors. That's what a good guy would do! ;-)
>
> On a different subject ...
>
> *Supernews says Wolffan is not one of their customers*.

ooh, yes I am. Someone’s lying, and I suspect it ain’t Supernews.

Hint: do you really think that I pay the monthly bill using a credit card
with ‘Wolffan’ on it? Are you actually that stupid? Oh. Wait. It’s
_you_. You are that stupid.

>
> I received an email this morning advising me of that fact.
>
> Can you tell that Wolffan's header has been forged?

Good luck with that, as it’s not forged. Damn, you’re an idiot.

If Supernews wanted to, they could track down which account created a post
with those headers. It wouldn’t even be difficult for them. There’s no
way that they’d spend _three weeks_ on it and then fail to see which
account did it. You’re just lying, again, because Supernews told you that
your pathetic attempt to shut me up wouldn’t fly.

and you still can’t, troll-boy.

[Panthera Tigris Altaica]

On 2020-08-20 04:27, David_B wrote:
> On 20/08/2020 00:48, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2020-08-09 12:13 a.m., David_B wrote:
>>> Most readers here probably know already but, just in case some don't,
>>> there's a comprehensive summary here:-
>>>
>>> https://setapp.com/how-to/type-special-keyboard-symbols-on-mac
>>>
>>> It's always good to have a reminder anyway!
>>
>> Except...
>>
>> ...just like you all the time...
>>
>> ...they get basic facts wrong:
>>
>> 'Similarly, a degree symbol on Mac (º) is Option + Zero'
>>
>> That is simply wrong.
>>
>> The degree symbol is Option-Shift-8: "°"
>>
>> The Option-0 combination looks very similar: "º", but it is actually
>> the "masculine ordinal indicator" (i.e. 1º for "first") in languages
>> such as Spanish, Portugese, Italian...
>>
>> There is also a feminine ordinal indicator: "ª"...
>>
>> ...and the key combination is Option-9
>
>
> I posted in good faith, Alan. :-(

You posted grossly incorrect information, in large part because you do
not do proper due diligence before posting.

>
> I expect you've already written to the originator to point out their
> errors. That's what a good guy would do! ;-)
>
> On a different subject ...
>
> *Supernews says Wolffan is not one of their customers*.
> I received an email this morning advising me of that fact.
>
> Can you tell that Wolffan's header has been forged?

If Supernews really thought that Wolffan had forged headers they would
take active measures to do something about it. That they haven't,
despite your making your initial complaint three weeks ago, speaks volumes.

Which header or headers do you think are forged, and why do you think so?

>
> On 18 Aug 2020, David_B wrote
> (in article <V0Y_G.97031$8b2....@fx07.ams1>):
>
> > On 18/08/2020 19:13, Snit wrote:
> > > On Aug 18, 2020 at 10:17:06 AM MST, "Wolffan" <akwo...@zoho.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 17 Aug 2020, David_B wrote
> > > > (in article <E9C_G.337814$F86....@fx36.ams1>):
> > > >
> > > > > -
> > > > > David_B.
> > > > > Group Moderator
> > > >
> > > > You cannot be the moderator, as a.c.w is not a moderated group.
> This has
> > > > been
> > > >
> > > > pointed out to you before. Nop doubt your high alcohol intake
> made you
> > > > ‘forget’ again, troll-boy.
> > >
> > > If you keep saying that he will ban you.

It certainly appears that Brooks has been imbibing heavily.

[John Hill]

I've killfiled him. Let me know f he ever has anything useful to say and I may
reinstate him.

J.

--
Say less than you know, have more than you show.

[David_B]

It is ALWAYS best to be honest and truthful! :-)

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The header above makes me think that the poster is a client of Supernews
- he is not so (according to the message from Supernews received this
morning)

Wolffan is a *LIAR* who probably has access to an open nntp server

>> On 18 Aug 2020, David_B wrote
>> (in article <V0Y_G.97031$8b2....@fx07.ams1>):
>>
>>  > On 18/08/2020 19:13, Snit wrote:
>>  > > On Aug 18, 2020 at 10:17:06 AM MST, "Wolffan"
>> <akwo...@zoho.com> wrote:
>>  > >
>>  > > > On 17 Aug 2020, David_B wrote
>>  > > > (in article <E9C_G.337814$F86....@fx36.ams1>):
>>  > > >
>>  > > > > -
>>  > > > > David_B.
>>  > > > > Group Moderator
>>  > > >
>>  > > > You cannot be the moderator, as a.c.w is not a moderated group.
>> This has
>>  > > > been
>>  > > >
>>  > > > pointed out to you before. Nop doubt your high alcohol intake
>> made you
>>  > > > ‘forget’ again, troll-boy.
>>  > >
>>  > > If you keep saying that he will ban you.
>
> It certainly appears that Brooks has been imbibing heavily.

I was having a bit of fun - as acknowledged by Snit! 😉

David_B has not been imbibing at all since 21 March 2018

[Wolffan]

On 20 Aug 2020, David_B wrote
(in article <dxB%G.161963$C24....@fx13.ams1>):

then why do you lie so much?

so?

I am

>
> - he is not so (according to the message from Supernews received this
> morning)

bullsahit

>
>
> Wolffan is a *LIAR* who probably has access to an open nntp server

and how do I inject the Supernews headers, idiot?

Son, you just accused me of committing Federal felonies: wire fraud, forgery,
and possibly more, all without the slightest evidence. And all utterly
untrue, as I _am_ a Supernews customer, have been a Supernews customer for
years, and can prove it thanks to my credit card records. Supernews merely
told you to go pound sand and you’re lying about your rejection.

>
>
> > > On 18 Aug 2020, David_B wrote
> > > (in article <V0Y_G.97031$8b2....@fx07.ams1>):
> > >
> > > > On 18/08/2020 19:13, Snit wrote:
> > > > > On Aug 18, 2020 at 10:17:06 AM MST, "Wolffan"
> > > <akwo...@zoho.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 17 Aug 2020, David_B wrote
> > > > > > (in article<E9C_G.337814$F86....@fx36.ams1>):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > David_B.
> > > > > > > Group Moderator
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You cannot be the moderator, as a.c.w is not a moderated group.
> > > This has
> > > > > > been
> > > > > >
> > > > > > pointed out to you before. Nop doubt your high alcohol intake
> > > made you
> > > > > > ‘forget’ again, troll-boy.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you keep saying that he will ban you.
> >
> > It certainly appears that Brooks has been imbibing heavily.
>
> I was having a bit of fun - as acknowledged by Snit! 😉

And, once again, the “I was only joking” defence. Amazing how oftyen yopu
dig that out, troll-boy.

>
>
> David_B has not been imbibing at all since 21 March 2018

oh yes you have.

[nospam]

In article <0001HW.24EF1E7C01...@news.supernews.com>,

Wolffan <akwo...@zoho.com> wrote:

> >
> > David_B has not been imbibing at all since 21 March 2018
>
> oh yes you have.

as a baby, he suckled from a keg tap.

[David_B]

On 20/08/2020 22:11, Wolffan wrote:
> and how do I inject the Supernews headers, idiot?
>
> Son, you just accused me of committing Federal felonies: wire fraud, forgery,
> and possibly more, all without the slightest evidence. And all utterly

> untrue, as I_am_ a Supernews customer, have been a Supernews customer for

> years, and can prove it thanks to my credit card records. Supernews merely
> told you to go pound sand and you’re lying about your rejection.

I've forwarded this post of yours to Supernews in response to my
incoming mail this morning.
I'm sure when they check again they'll have no difficulty identifying you.

[Wolffan]

On 20 Aug 2020, David_B wrote

(in article <LiD%G.197083$t27....@fx34.ams1>):

I’msure that they’ll see that I’ve been a long-term customer and that
you’re full of shit. As usual.

[Panthera Tigris]

It seems that you have not been either honest or truthful. It also seems
that you have, for reasons of your own, decided to cross-post to
alt.computer.workshop, where this thread is completely off-topic. As
noted above, this speaks volumes about you, very little of it good.

What relevance does any of that have?

You have failed to show that he is not a Supernews client. I repeat: if
Wolffan was forging Supernews headers, why is it that Supernews has not
done something about it? It has been three weeks since you made your
complaint. A check of old posts indicates that Wolffan has had Supernews
headers in his posts for well over a year. Supernews would have plenty
of data to track him down if he was forging headers. If _I_ can find
those posts in a few minutes, why can't Supernews? And if Supernews can
find those posts, which they surely can, why can't they do something
about it? Which is more likely, Wolffan is forging headers with impunity
and has been doing this for over a year, or you are, to put it crudely,
lying your ass off?

>
> Wolffan is a *LIAR* who probably has access to an open nntp server

You have failed to support this. Indeed, it appears that you are posting
deliberate falsehoods.

>
>
>
>>> On 18 Aug 2020, David_B wrote
>>> (in article <V0Y_G.97031$8b2....@fx07.ams1>):
>>>
>>>  > On 18/08/2020 19:13, Snit wrote:
>>>  > > On Aug 18, 2020 at 10:17:06 AM MST, "Wolffan"
>>> <akwo...@zoho.com> wrote:
>>>  > >
>>>  > > > On 17 Aug 2020, David_B wrote
>>>  > > > (in article <E9C_G.337814$F86....@fx36.ams1>):
>>>  > > >
>>>  > > > > -
>>>  > > > > David_B.
>>>  > > > > Group Moderator
>>>  > > >
>>>  > > > You cannot be the moderator, as a.c.w is not a moderated
>>> group. This has
>>>  > > > been
>>>  > > >
>>>  > > > pointed out to you before. Nop doubt your high alcohol intake
>>> made you
>>>  > > > ‘forget’ again, troll-boy.
>>>  > >
>>>  > > If you keep saying that he will ban you.
>>
>> It certainly appears that Brooks has been imbibing heavily.
>
> I was having a bit of fun - as acknowledged by Snit! 😉
>
> David_B has not been imbibing at all since 21 March 2018
>

So, you acknowledge that you were, in fact, posting deliberate
falsehoods but think that saying you were joking gives you a pass? Are
you joking about Wolffan forging headers?

[Panthera Tigris]

You posted this in August. It's now October. It appears to me that
Wolffan has no problems with Supernews.