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Alexander Garcia Castro

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May 19, 2016, 3:03:13 AM5/19/16
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Hi, I need to load snomed in tbc, any indications/instrcutions as to how can I do this? 

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nat...@topquadrant.com

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May 19, 2016, 6:42:35 AM5/19/16
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Hi Alex

What are the available formats ? Rdf, xml, csv ?

David Price

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May 19, 2016, 7:06:20 AM5/19/16
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Snomed is not native RDF as far as I know, I think it uses its own ontology language syntax. 

I think the results are available as a tab-separated-file I think. Someone/something will have to translate that into RDF/OWL (e.g. Turtle file) before it can be imported into TB. My guess is there are already tools to do that and you just need to find and use one.

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Paula Markes

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May 19, 2016, 7:53:25 AM5/19/16
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IHTSDO offers a script that will transform the SNOMED in the release files to OWL.  It was written by Kent Spackman, and is often referred to as the “Spackman Script”.  The Technical documentation guide provides some information on running it - http://ihtsdo.org/fileadmin/user_upload/doc/.  As you might suspect, SNOMED is very large and so you will need to make sure your hardware is appropriately sized to manage it.

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Ankur Oberai

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May 19, 2016, 9:56:24 AM5/19/16
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I had a chance to play with the snomed data recently.
Snomed comes in a format called RF2. There is a pl script called tls2_StatedRelationshipsToOwlKRSS_INT_20160131.pl located in the snomed download zip at - SnomedCT_RF2Release_INT_20160131\SnomedCT_RF2Release_INT_20160131\Resources\StatedRelationshipsToOwlKRSS
There are instructions in this file on how to run this file and generate a .owl file. This can then be renamed to .rdf and opened in TBC.
The latest international version took TBC under 4 GB RAM to open.
Hope that helps.

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Ankur Oberai
Semantic Solutions Developer
TopQuadrant Inc.

Irene Polikoff

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May 19, 2016, 11:03:42 AM5/19/16
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Several of our customers use SNOMED although I am not sure where they have obtained the RDF version – have they converted it themselves or is it available somewhere for download. I hope that one of these users is on the forum and may respond.

Once you have SNOMED in RDF, because it is large, the best way to open it in TBC is by streaming it into a TDB database. To do so, right click on a project, select Import > TopBraid Composer > Import RDF files into a new TDB and follow the rest of the wizard.

Irene Polikoff

cbur...@healthwise.org

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May 19, 2016, 2:14:10 PM5/19/16
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Alex,

I don't know where to get the full U.S. version in an RDF format, but you can download the International version from Bioportal (looks like the latest available is the 2015AA release) in Turtle or CSV format:


Also, Tania Tudorache from Stanford has uploaded an OWL version of the SNOMED Anatomical Terms only, if that happens to be the module you're interested in: 

https://bioportal.bioontology.org/ontologies/SNOMED_ANATOMY

Depending on your coding abilities, you could also get it by using the UMLS2RDF Python scripts to convert the UMLS representation of SNOMED to an RDF format:

Carl
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