need help identifying short story
Roberta
guy (in convertible?) cruising parking lot of a maul. Radio station
plays/radio call number is noted in story. Guy pulls up at her house
the next day. He wears cowboy boots and is walking awkwardly in them
(cloven hoofs of devil???) She leaves with him...screen door
slams...she looks back and realizes she'll never come back home
again. Something special about the song and call letters/numbers the
car radio is playing??
You know how it is....you read a story a bizillion years ago and
something triggers a memory and suddenly you are on a quest that is
about to drive you insane if you don't find an answer???
Anyway...that's just about where I'm at. Looking forward to (finding
the time to) read all the entries in the discussion group.
Roberta
Eric Anderson
That's easy. It's the story "Where Are You Going, Where Have You Been?" You can find it in her recent collection High Lonesome which includes a selection of JCO's stories from the past 50 years.
Eric
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I hope everyone is enjoying their summer. Speaking of summer, recently completed JCO's short story "Fours Summers". Loved it.
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I love "Four Summers," Gordon. I think its from same era as "Where are You Going..." and my all-time fav: "How I Contemplated the World from the Detroit House of Correction and Began My Life Over Again"
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Best,
Gordon
Hi Roberta
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--- On Tue, 7/20/10, Oehling, Rick <oehl...@uww.edu> wrote:
Roberta Abson
Thanks for taking the time to respond, Gordon.
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Roberta Abson
Many thanks for taking the time to email back with info.
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Roberta Abson
Roberta
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By the way Rick, you mentioned that the two aforementioned works were from the same era. I felt sure of it when I finished "Four Summers" because of the slight similarities in the two main characters story (Connie & "pretty" Sissie). Looks like Sissie got the better deal in the end... whether she knew it or not. :)
Later,
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Where Are You Going, Where Have You Been (for Bob Dylan) has a fascinating genesis. JCO is a classically trained pianist ("an enthusiastic amateur" she calls herself) and a music lover in general. She appreciates folk and folk rock, and you'll note the DJ's name is Bobby King. The kernel of the story is based on an Ohio serial killer whose legs weren't the same size and who stuffed his boot with newspaper to make the legs look congruent. Connie is an adolescent in thrall to the music, to the summer and to Arnold Friend, the "demon lover" to whom she gives herself finally (and perhaps fatally) as they ride away in his convertible. As Oates has written, describing the creation of fiction, the story on the page is just "the tip of the iceberg" vis a vis what's going on beneath the conscious text.
Speaking simply for me, Oate's first four story collections are the best pieces she's ever written (and I've read everything she's published). BY THE NORTH GATE, UPON THE SWEEPING FLOOD, THE WHEEL OF LOVE and MARRIAGES AND INFIDELITIES are brilliant, original and captivating. |
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Thanks for the feedback. Always good to hear info from a true fan of hers. The sentence about the real perp's shorter leg was new to me and I'll make sure to file that bit away for future reference.
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Roberta Abson
Thanks for writing Max and passing along info. This group's efforts would make Carol J.O. smile I'm sure.
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Max Alberts
| You are most welcome. May I be a bit off topic and complain about the humidity in the Twin Cities this summer? It is enervating and disgusting as well--the humidity seems to trap the pollution and make the air smell like a sewer. It was 95 today with a heat index of 103. "Now these wild hot days is the mad blood simmering" (from Act One of ROMEO AND JULIET) --- On Tue, 8/3/10, Roberta Abson <rmf...@yahoo.com> wrote: |
Oehling, Rick
You're not off topic, though I can't say why. But I found myself "dipping into" Oates's collection "Heat" today. Why? We are not your usual compulsives.
Rick
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You are most welcome. May I be a bit off topic and complain about the humidity in the Twin Cities this summer? It is enervating and disgusting as well--the humidity seems to trap the pollution and make the air smell like a sewer. It was 95 today with a heat index of 103. "Now these wild hot days is the mad blood simmering" (from Act One of ROMEO AND JULIET)
--- On Tue, 8/3/10, Roberta Abson <rmf...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 8:19 PM
Thanks for the feedback. Always good to hear info from a true fan of hers. The sentence about the real perp's shorter leg was new to me and I'll make sure to file that bit away for future reference.
Jessica
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Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 9:55 AM
BY THE NORTH GATE was the first story collection by JCO that I read. I was completely in awe of her writing then, and that was the beginning of my fascination with her and her work. I cannot claim to have read everything she has published, but certainly continue to follow her career and writing with interest and admiration.
On Jul 22, 2010, at 9:19 AM, Max Alberts wrote:
Where Are You Going, Where Have You Been (for Bob Dylan) has a fascinating genesis. JCO is a classically trained pianist ("an enthusiastic amateur" she calls herself) and a music lover in general. She appreciates folk and folk rock, and you'll note the DJ's name is Bobby King. The kernel of the story is based on an Ohio serial killer whose legs weren't the same size and who stuffed his boot with newspaper to make the legs look congruent. Connie is an adolescent in thrall to the music, to the summer and to Arnold Friend, the "demon lover" to whom she gives herself finally (and perhaps fatally) as they ride away in his convertible. As Oates has written, describing the creation of fiction, the story on the page is just "the tip of the iceberg" vis a vis what's going on beneath the conscious text.
Speaking simply for me, Oate's first four story collections are the best pieces she's ever written (and I've read everything she's published). BY THE NORTH GATE, UPON THE SWEEPING FLOOD, THE WHEEL OF LOVE and MARRIAGES AND INFIDELITIES are brilliant, original and captivating.
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Awe shucks Roberta, the pleasure is all mine, I'm sure.
By the way Rick, you mentioned that the two aforementioned works were from the same era. I felt sure of it when I finished "Four Summers" because of the slight similarities in the two main characters story (Connie & "pretty" Sissie). Looks like Sissie got the better deal in the end... whether she knew it or not. :)
Later,
Gordon
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Many thanks...now I can check that one off my "things to take care of" list.
Roberta
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> "Where are You Going..." also made
> into the superb film "Smooth Talk" with Laura Dern and a
> James Taylor soundtrack.
> I love "Four Summers," Gordon. I think its from same
> era as "Where are You Going..." and my all-time fav: "How I
> Contemplated the World from the Detroit House of Correction
> and Began My Life Over Again"
> R
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> I concur. "Where Are You Going, Where Have You Been?".
> Classic.
>
> I hope everyone is enjoying their summer. Speaking of
> summer, recently completed JCO's short story "Fours
> Summers". Loved it.
>
>
> Best,
> Gordon
>
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> Hi Roberta
>
> That's easy. It's the story "Where Are You Going, Where
> Have You Been?" You can find it in her recent collection
> High Lonesome which includes a selection of JCO's stories
> from the past 50 years.
>
> Eric
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Subject: Re: [JCO:859] need help identifying short story
You are most welcome. May I be a bit off topic and complain about the humidity in the Twin Cities this summer? It is enervating and disgusting as well--the humidity seems to trap the pollution and make the air smell like a sewer. It was 95 today with a heat index of 103. "Now these wild hot days is the mad blood simmering" (from Act One of ROMEO AND JULIET)
--- On Tue, 8/3/10, Roberta Abson <rmf...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Subject: Re: [JCO:857] need help identifying short story
To: tonecl...@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 8:19 PM
Thanks for the feedback. Always good to hear info from a true fan of hers. The sentence about the real perp's shorter leg was new to me and I'll make sure to file that bit away for future reference.
Jessica
--- On Thu, 7/22/10, Dorothy Schirtzinger <dorot...@comcast.net> wrote:
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Subject: Re: [JCO:856] need help identifying short story
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Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 9:55 AM
BY THE NORTH GATE was the first story collection by JCO that I read. I was completely in awe of her writing then, and that was the beginning of my fascination with her and her work. I cannot claim to have read everything she has published, but certainly continue to follow her career and writing with interest and admiration.
On Jul 22, 2010, at 9:19 AM, Max Alberts wrote:
Where Are You Going, Where Have You Been (for Bob Dylan) has a fascinating genesis. JCO is a classically trained pianist ("an enthusiastic amateur" she calls herself) and a music lover in general. She appreciates folk and folk rock, and you'll note the DJ's name is Bobby King. The kernel of the story is based on an Ohio serial killer whose legs weren't the same size and who stuffed his boot with newspaper to make the legs look congruent. Connie is an adolescent in thrall to the music, to the summer and to Arnold Friend, the "demon lover" to whom she gives herself finally (and perhaps fatally) as they ride away in his convertible. As Oates has written, describing the creation of fiction, the story on the page is just "the tip of the iceberg" vis a vis what's going on beneath the conscious text.
Speaking simply for me, Oate's first four story collections are the best pieces she's ever written (and I've read everything she's published). BY THE NORTH GATE, UPON THE SWEEPING FLOOD, THE WHEEL OF LOVE and MARRIAGES AND INFIDELITIES are brilliant, original and captivating.
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Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 7:48 PM
Awe shucks Roberta, the pleasure is all mine, I'm sure.
By the way Rick, you mentioned that the two aforementioned works were from the same era. I felt sure of it when I finished "Four Summers" because of the slight similarities in the two main characters story (Connie & "pretty" Sissie). Looks like Sissie got the better deal in the end... whether she knew it or not. :)
Later,
Gordon
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Many thanks...now I can check that one off my "things to take care of" list.
Roberta
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> Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 3:01 PM
> "Where are You Going..." also made
> into the superb film "Smooth Talk" with Laura Dern and a
> James Taylor soundtrack.
> I love "Four Summers," Gordon. I think its from same
> era as "Where are You Going..." and my all-time fav: "How I
> Contemplated the World from the Detroit House of Correction
> and Began My Life Over Again"
> R
>________________________________________
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>
> I concur. "Where Are You Going, Where Have You Been?".
> Classic.
>
> I hope everyone is enjoying their summer. Speaking of
> summer, recently completed JCO's short story "Fours
> Summers". Loved it.
>
>
> Best,
> Gordon
>
> Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
>
>________________________________
> From: Eric Anderson <erick...@hotmail.com<http://us.mc657.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=erick...@hotmail.com>>
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> Subject: RE: [JCO:846] need help identifying short story
>
> Hi Roberta
>
> That's easy. It's the story "Where Are You Going, Where
> Have You Been?" You can find it in her recent collection
> High Lonesome which includes a selection of JCO's stories
> from the past 50 years.
>
> Eric
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> > Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:09:21 -0700
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