We went from 25 to 50 cost a few thousand by memory
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We have a ZD1000 and it can cope with 50.
Another heads up Craig - If you are using 7962 units as well, you need to look at replacing them as the latest ZD software won't support them.
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On 27 March 2015 at 14:45, Craig Knights <craig....@gmail.com> wrote:
it is an 1100 so might be stuck again.. there's the previous 1000 sitting there powered off too ()..might have to start looking hard at where I can rob some from..yuck.Craig
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Hi Craig,You’d need to talk to a reseller for pricing- but some controllers can’t go higher than 50 APs - if you have a 1000 or 1100 series controller some are limited to a max of 50 APS - if you have the 1200 you can go to 75, and the 3xxx series controller you can upgrade as far as 500. There also may be some maximum client limitations depending on the controller which you should consider.Jono
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Hi,Does anyone have a rough idea of what it costs to increase the licensed number of access points from 50 to more (does it need to be 100?) on a Ruckus system?taCraig
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Such an upgrade certainly seems to be part of the plan for the WSNUP, is that the SNUP2 you’re thinking of?
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Just a thought, will this be covered by the new SNUP 2 upgrade being pushed by the Ministry? If you have an old unit of controller and also a need to add more AP's will they consider this option on their design?
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Good Point Andrew!
The last supported firmware release for the 7962 access point (the dome shape unit) is version 9.8. This has been a great unit and served us well over the last 6 years but the product is now end of life. Customers wanting to upgrade their ZoneDirector to 9.9 will need to remove any 7962 units from their network prior.
The ZD1100 has the following license levels: 6, 12 , 25 , 50.
If you have more than 50 access points you will need to consider upgrading to a ZD1200 (max 75 aps) or ZD3000 (max 500 aps).
If you are considering as upgrade let me know and i'll see if our team can get you a special upgrade deal ;-)
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Another heads up Craig - If you are using 7962 units as well, you need to look at replacing them as the latest ZD software won't support them.
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On 27 March 2015 at 14:45, Craig Knights <craig....@gmail.com> wrote:
it is an 1100 so might be stuck again.. there's the previous 1000 sitting there powered off too ()..
might have to start looking hard at where I can rob some from..
yuck.
Craig
On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Jonathan Vautier <jonathan...@n4l.co.nz> wrote:
Hi Craig,
You’d need to talk to a reseller for pricing- but some controllers can’t go higher than 50 APs - if you have a 1000 or 1100 series controller some are limited to a max of 50 APS - if you have the 1200 you can go to 75, and the 3xxx series controller you can upgrade as far as 500. There also may be some maximum client limitations depending on the controller which you should consider.
Jono
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Hi,
Does anyone have a rough idea of what it costs to increase the licensed number of access points from 50 to more (does it need to be 100?) on a Ruckus system?
ta
Craig
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Another heads up Craig - If you are using 7962 units as well, you need to look at replacing them as the latest ZD software won't support them.
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On 27 March 2015 at 14:45, Craig Knights <craig....@gmail.com> wrote:
it is an 1100 so might be stuck again.. there's the previous 1000 sitting there powered off too ()..might have to start looking hard at where I can rob some from..yuck.Craig
On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Jonathan Vautier <jonathan...@n4l.co.nz> wrote:
Hi Craig,You’d need to talk to a reseller for pricing- but some controllers can’t go higher than 50 APs - if you have a 1000 or 1100 series controller some are limited to a max of 50 APS - if you have the 1200 you can go to 75, and the 3xxx series controller you can upgrade as far as 500. There also may be some maximum client limitations depending on the controller which you should consider.Jono
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Hi,Does anyone have a rough idea of what it costs to increase the licensed number of access points from 50 to more (does it need to be 100?) on a Ruckus system?taCraig
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The issues I am aware of is- there is a fixed determination of a number of switches, wireless APs etc. Whilst its good the switches will cover the wireless points in the areas they are in (as they need switches that support VLANs) plus some extra ports I think the Ministry should have rolled in enough switches to replace all of the ones in the school for classroom computers because typically the school has had to keep some of the existing switches in place for those computers.- the provision of wireless APs only covers teaching areas. So in one block the teacher’s offices had no coverage.
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Hi Craig,
Just wondering, have you given any thought to of switching vendors since you are facing these enviable upgrades to increase your AP count? This was just one of the many reasons why we chose to go with the vendor that we did to enable a future that didn’t have an end of life of products from a management point of view.
At Waimea College we use a controller-less vendor and like Patrick stated we are not limited by the number of AP’s that can be connected to expand our AP network. We don’t suffer from the hardware placing a limitation of what version of firmware is running. We have the choice to run the management software locally or via the cloud.
Just food for thought when contemplating what lays ahead.
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Kent Champion
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Might depend on how close the systems are – a variety of places we deal with are in built-up areas with competing Wifi from surrounding homes and businesses. Often these nearby places are far closer to chunks of the system than some of the outlying buildings. It’s something to keep an eye on, regardless of whether you’re directly running multiple vendors…
We’ve recently put in a Ubiquiti PtP bridge to link (temporary) buildings across a road. The remainder of the gear on site is all Ruckus. Of course, it’s also 5 years old, so a few generations of Wifi behind.
J,
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I have thought hard about this but not sure how you can make two different systems work without interfering with each other.
The Controller tends to get run on a suitable server (as a service). I’ve got a python script pulling stats out of the Unifi controller into Cacti to monitor things like throughput and client-count (Cacti is also monitoring the AT switches).
J,
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i'm stunned by the cost of the ruckus gear!
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That’s dependent on the gear. You can certainly manually set Ubiquiti APs to specific channels instead of letting the system figure it out. It tends to be an option for when the automated system gets it wrong.
Of course, the point of the automated system is that it can adjust as the environment (such as neighbours) changes, so there are advantages to letting it sort itself out.
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Well, I was under the impression the controllers automatically regulate the channels in use, so it’s difficult to be sure a particular managed AP will stay on the same channel all of the time.
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I manage spectrum by splitting capacity on 2.4 and 5Ghz channels;
The design is for 2.4GHz (only 3 non-overlap channels) so I space the 4th AP the furtherest from the 1st, when running Channel 1, 6 and 11. (I avoid 12&13 just in case we have import devices that don't support those bands)
I then fill in with AP's on 5GHz only (2.4 disabled), which suits all our newer TELA laptops, and Apple devices. There are a few more channels on 5GHz, so the more the better, but penetration is much less. The more I move to 5GHz the better.
I can tell by looking at neighbouring strength which AP's see other AP's, and hopefully they dontt see another AP on the same channel, or hopefully very minimal.
Matt
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i think the biggest problem is spectrum usage.
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