Windows 10 RSAT & HP 850G1
Matthew Strickland
Julian Davison
I’m curious. Historically I’ve found a common approach to Microsoft OS releases is “wait until at least SP1 before widespread deployment” (which is the followup to the “skip every second release ‘cause it’s Microsoft experimenting”). Are those of you who are pushing Windows 10 out usual subscribers to this approach? If so, what’s changed with 10?
There seems to be a much swifter and wider adoption of 10 compared with prior versions, helped in no small part by the ‘windows update’ deployment option which makes it easy for anyone to click a few links and get it installed. I’m just wondering if there’s been an actual shift in peoples perceptions of the reliability of Windows (with 10) or it’s simply easier which is leading to it happening…
Cheers, Julian
Julian Davison
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Patrick Dunford
I have installed RSAT on a couple of computers, in each case the DHCP management console is missing from the administrative tools even though it is selected and should be installed by default.
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Sent: Monday, 24 August 2015 1:33 PM
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Subject: [techies-for-schools] Windows 10 RSAT & HP 850G1
Hi all,
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Patrick Dunford
I had a problem on a NVidia card with an older driver from the card manufacturer’s site. But Nvidia had newer Win10 specific drivers, so their driver fixed the problem
Matthew Strickland
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On Monday, 24 August 2015 13:39:33 UTC+12, Julian Davison wrote:
I’m curious. Historically I’ve found a common approach to Microsoft OS releases is “wait until at least SP1 before widespread deployment” (which is the followup to the “skip every second release ‘cause it’s Microsoft experimenting”). Are those of you who are pushing Windows 10 out usual subscribers to this approach? If so, what’s changed with 10?
There seems to be a much swifter and wider adoption of 10 compared with prior versions, helped in no small part by the ‘windows update’ deployment option which makes it easy for anyone to click a few links and get it installed. I’m just wondering if there’s been an actual shift in peoples perceptions of the reliability of Windows (with 10) or it’s simply easier which is leading to it happening…
Julian Davison
I suspect the primary drive for the click-to-update (particularly since it’s been ‘free’) is to boost the adoption figures.
I’ve encountered many school techs (particularly high school BYOD environments) where there’s been a sudden surge in student requests for assistance as the Windows 10 update has brought the odd thing to a halt (printing usually). There’s been a similar increase in staff applying the update due to the pop-up. Which speaks to the success of the click-to-update marketing approach!
I guess my question, particularly to those with central deployment management, is whether the drive-to-deploy is based on user pressure (“I’m using it at home!”) or an actual increase in faith (or something else).
Certainly, anecdotal evidence suggests that this has proven to be a ‘less breaky’ OS upgrade than many of Microsoft’s previous ones. People seem to be leaping toward it before that’s become apparent though, which leads to my curiosity. Maybe it all comes down to the internet being more omnipresent meaning that more people have been exposed to Windows 10 (and it’s preview) meaning that it’s just worked better. Hmm.
Cheers, Julian
Julian Davison
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Patrick Dunford
J B
Windows 10 seems alright but Intel has screwed us on the drivers again, any windows 8.1 tablets with an atom z27xx CPU will not work with windows 10, despite them being only a couple of years old.
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Patrick Dunford
J B
I have complained to both.
Hyper-v and it's need for extensions to run is annoying and something I have tripped over before when prototyping but they never outright said hyper-v will run on the same hardware next version.
I agree MS should step up and do drivers if the vendors, who traditionally have decide to flush users yet again as has happened.
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Kevin Whelan
No DHCP only the powershell commands
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Nathan Mercer (DEVICES)
FWIW there won’t ever be a SP for Windows 10
The last SP for Windows client that ever came out was in February 2011 for Windows 7 SP1
Think of Windows as a Service - delivering new features when they’re ready, not waiting for the next major release.
Windows 10 has cumulative updates every month, then major feature releases every 3-4 months.
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A "Cumulative Update" that clocks in at 325MB and contains patches you've already got.... The names might change, but the function remains the same
Nathan Mercer (DEVICES)
It’s not patches you already have. Yes the x64 version is ~ 325Mb and the 32bit version is ~ 159Mb
But only if you download directly, will you actually see those file sizes.
They are like diffs, so it only downloads what you need, so deploy thru WU or WSUS and its 1/3 of that size
And they are cumulative, 3081424 replaces 3074683 from July 29, 2015, and next month there will be another that replaces 3081424
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Subject: Re: [techies-for-schools] Windows 10 RSAT & HP 850G1
there is this, of course: http://liliputing.com/2015/08/windows-10-gets-its-first-big-update-windows-really-is-a-service.html
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J B
The machine does work with the drivers installed but every time you try to play a video it kills the gpu driver. It also has great difficulty rendering the control on the woefully unfinished edge browser.
It is ashame as the majority of the W8 tablets will probably be left out making a rather large strategy fail if not fixed. It's like MS is trying to fail or Intel is trying to sink them with a few million little rip offs along the way.
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Subject: Re: [techies-for-schools] Windows 10 RSAT & HP 850G1
Patrick Dunford
I have complained to both.
Hyper-v and it's need for extensions to run is annoying and something I have tripped over before when prototyping but they never outright said hyper-v will run on the same hardware next version.
I agree MS should step up and do drivers if the vendors, who traditionally have decide to flush users yet again as has happened.
Sent from my Windows Phone
Subject: Re: [techies-for-schools] Windows 10 RSAT & HP 850G1
Windows 10 seems alright but Intel has screwed us on the drivers again, any windows 8.1 tablets with an atom z27xx CPU will not work with windows 10, despite them being only a couple of years old.
Sent from my Windows Phone
Subject: Re: [techies-for-schools] Windows 10 RSAT & HP 850G1
I suspect the primary drive for the click-to-update (particularly since it’s been ‘free’) is to boost the adoption figures.
I’ve encountered many school techs (particularly high school BYOD environments) where there’s been a sudden surge in student requests for assistance as the Windows 10 update has brought the odd thing to a halt (printing usually). There’s been a similar increase in staff applying the update due to the pop-up. Which speaks to the success of the click-to-update marketing approach!
I guess my question, particularly to those with central deployment management, is whether the drive-to-deploy is based on user pressure (“I’m using it at home!”) or an actual increase in faith (or something else).
Certainly, anecdotal evidence suggests that this has proven to be a ‘less breaky’ OS upgrade than many of Microsoft’s previous ones. People seem to be leaping toward it before that’s become apparent though, which leads to my curiosity. Maybe it all comes down to the internet being more omnipresent meaning that more people have been exposed to Windows 10 (and it’s preview) meaning that it’s just worked better. Hmm.
Cheers, Julian
Julian Davison
Technical Consultant
Decision1 IT Solutions Ltd
PO Box 368
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Subject: Re: [techies-for-schools] Windows 10 RSAT & HP 850G1
It would be interesting to see metrics of enterprise vs home user upgrade. Obviously with a click-to-update approach the home/stand-alone users will very quickly trump enterprise, with new sales combined.
As for SP1 I don't even know the roadmap, it would have to come sooner than usual as Windows 10 adoption is much faster, and considering we had quite a long preview edition prior to release I would have thought the RTM version is SP1.
I think what's happening is "I'm running windows 10 at home, why can't I at work?"
I've upgraded my laptop and a few power users to windows 10. Once MDT is sorted a few power workstations will upgrade to 10 as well.
The letdown isn't really Windows, but hardware manufactures, even if they state their devices are "Windows 10 ready"
Compared to OSX upgrades, I have learnt my lesson and wait for .2 .3 versions (10.10 was a nightmare AD Integrated).
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On Monday, 24 August 2015 13:39:33 UTC+12, Julian Davison wrote:
I’m curious. Historically I’ve found a common approach to Microsoft OS releases is “wait until at least SP1 before widespread deployment” (which is the followup to the “skip every second release ‘cause it’s Microsoft experimenting”). Are those of you who are pushing Windows 10 out usual subscribers to this approach? If so, what’s changed with 10?
There seems to be a much swifter and wider adoption of 10 compared with prior versions, helped in no small part by the ‘windows update’ deployment option which makes it easy for anyone to click a few links and get it installed. I’m just wondering if there’s been an actual shift in peoples perceptions of the reliability of Windows (with 10) or it’s simply easier which is leading to it happening…
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