Holiday Project(s)

[Simon Wright]

Hi Guys and Gals,

Just thought i'd share my holiday projects with you. Feel free to share yours as well, be nice to know i'm not the only one working hard over the holidays.

I think the folks on this list will understand and appreciate more than the general teaching staff around here. Its nice to geek out once in a while.

I/we are embarking on a full network overhaul. Full HP/Aruba network, all new switches from core to edge, new APs (and more of them, almost 1 per classroom).

A good chunk of the Wireless upgrade is happening under WSNUP. It took a bit of back and forth with TorqueIP and the WSNUP leads to get what we wanted/needed. We weren't initially part of WSNUP, so this has worked out really well for us and saved a lot money that helped with the switch upgrade.

All switches support 10G, to which all the high density areas will be connected at 10G. The biggest benefit for me is a single management platform (single pane of glass) for the entire network, from switches to APs.

The other thing is consolodation of switches, going from about 27 to 20 (that number would have grown under usual WSNUP). 9 of the switches are PoE+, so no midspan injectors!

This is the biggest project i have going on. I also have a full server upgrade/renewal happening at the same time, all new HP servers, a computer lab refresh, and finally making a hole in my office wall to expand my empire to the next office.

I'm going to have a lot of redundant AT switches as well as 3x 24 port gigabit PoE HP switches available if anyone is interested.

Will also have ~40 Aerohive AP330 access points as well.

Have a good xmas and hopefully hear from you all in the new year.
​

Regards
Simon Wright
ICT Manager

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[gre...@staff.cbhs.school.nz]

Hi,

What models of AT switches are you peddling?

- Ben.

[Simon Wright]

8000S

8000GS

X910

1G SFP

Will confirm everything tomorrow. 

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[Sue Way]

HI Simon,

Glad you got the Aruba stuff.. I love ours! 

Our main holiday project is going Windowz 10 across the board. over 650 desktops and Laptops... also replacing a couple of PC labs with hardware and furniture.

Thanks goodness for Chromebooks, we don't have to touch them.

We will be filling some low signal areas for our wireless and throwing in extra outdoor access points to cover outside areas as the school is encouraging the students to have morning tea and lunch breaks outside.. Don't want IT to be the excuse for them not going outdoors... 

We love getting the whole place to ourselves so we can be geeks :-)

Hope you enjoy the freedom of your schools and get all your projects done before everyone gets back..

Sue Way | IT Services Director

Wellington Girls' College | Pipitea Street, Thorndon, Wellington 6011 | 

[Pete Mundy]

Hey Simon

Would you do the group the favour of posting a few screenshots of your single pane of glass management console in action once everything is up and running and the dust has settled?

For those of us who haven't seen a full Aruba build in real-world use it would be quite interesting I'm sure (certainly to me anyway)!

Cheers :)

Pete Mundy

On 11/12/2017, at 5:53 PM, Simon Wright <simon....@obhs.school.nz> wrote:

Hi Guys and Gals,

Just thought i'd share my holiday projects with you. Feel free to share yours as well, be nice to know i'm not the only one working hard over the holidays.

I think the folks on this list will understand and appreciate more than the general teaching staff around here. Its nice to geek out once in a while.

I/we are embarking on a full network overhaul. Full HP/Aruba network, all new switches from core to edge, new APs (and more of them, almost 1 per classroom).

A good chunk of the Wireless upgrade is happening under WSNUP. It took a bit of back and forth with TorqueIP and the WSNUP leads to get what we wanted/needed. We weren't initially part of WSNUP, so this has worked out really well for us and saved a lot money that helped with the switch upgrade.

All switches support 10G, to which all the high density areas will be connected at 10G. The biggest benefit for me is a single management platform (single pane of glass) for the entire network, from switches to APs.

The other thing is consolodation of switches, going from about 27 to 20 (that number would have grown under usual WSNUP). 9 of the switches are PoE+, so no midspan injectors!

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[Alistair Baird]

A  holiday project for me is ID cards and printing. We are bringing in producing our own ID cards in house, printing onto mifare cards and linking it to the colour copiers so that they must swipe to then print out their work (this includes staff). So we have a photo capture by way of any sort of camera, with the person holding a bar code of their name/student ID. Once all photos for the session have been taken, the photo files will be downloaded to a nominated workstation, where all the random file names will get processed by a clever shareware programme that scans the barcode within the image, and renames the file to that. Then it hands over to another shareware programme that can bulk process the images to crop out the barcode and just capture the head shot (you set the size for all, then adjust each individual one if necessary) then it changes the resolution to the required size for ID card/Kamar import. That's the first step, then when they have paid their "printing" fee (basic B&W to computer lab printers is free, only colour is charged for) the card is printed out from Kamar, the library barcode scanned to identify the user in AD, then passed over a mifare reader to read the card number into AD, which is then uploaded every 30 minutes into our Equitrac printing system.

We're trying to curb the printing wastage and correct the department charging.

Not sure how well it will be received by end users, but that's not my call. The ID cards could be used for future use like electronic lockers.

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[Sam McNeill]

That looks like awesome fun Simon! 

Are you going to be using Airwave as your single pane of glass? (FYI - StAC is replacing their HP wifi network over Christmas too with 150+ WAP from Aruba and they already have mostly Aruba switching too so if you want to have a contact with similar gear for Q&A I can connect you with the team there).

Replacing your on-prem servers at the same time makes for a big job! What do you use for virtualisation? Also, what version of Windows do you roll out for a standard computer suite these days?

Cheers

Sam

[Simon Wright]

For those interested in what switches we have. They haven't been removed yet, hoping to get the new gear in by xmas.

4x HP V1910-24G-PoE

6x AT 8000S 48 port

6x AT 8000S 24 port

9x AT 8000GS 24 port

1x ATX900

+ 1G transcievers

All 5 years old

Regards
Simon Wright
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On 11 December 2017 at 18:46, Simon Wright <simon....@obhs.school.nz> wrote:

8000S

8000GS

X910

1G SFP

Will confirm everything tomorrow. 

On 11/12/2017 6:38 PM, <gre...@staff.cbhs.school.nz> wrote:

Hi,

What models of AT switches are you peddling?

- Ben.

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[Mike Etheridge]

Update FM Server to 16.

Install KAMAR Web files v4.

Set up new print server with PaperCut 17.

Replace Xserve, migrate data.

Replace domain name server.

Quite a light load this summer, should get a reasonable break.

Cheers!

Mike

On 11/12/2017, at 5:53 PM, Simon Wright <simon....@obhs.school.nz> wrote:

Hi Guys and Gals,

Just thought i'd share my holiday projects with you. Feel free to share yours as well, be nice to know i'm not the only one working hard over the holidays.

I think the folks on this list will understand and appreciate more than the general teaching staff around here. Its nice to geek out once in a while.

I/we are embarking on a full network overhaul. Full HP/Aruba network, all new switches from core to edge, new APs (and more of them, almost 1 per classroom).

A good chunk of the Wireless upgrade is happening under WSNUP. It took a bit of back and forth with TorqueIP and the WSNUP leads to get what we wanted/needed. We weren't initially part of WSNUP, so this has worked out really well for us and saved a lot money that helped with the switch upgrade.

All switches support 10G, to which all the high density areas will be connected at 10G. The biggest benefit for me is a single management platform (single pane of glass) for the entire network, from switches to APs.

The other thing is consolodation of switches, going from about 27 to 20 (that number would have grown under usual WSNUP). 9 of the switches are PoE+, so no midspan injectors!

<IMG_20171211_171834.jpg>

This is the biggest project i have going on. I also have a full server upgrade/renewal happening at the same time, all new HP servers, a computer lab refresh, and finally making a hole in my office wall to expand my empire to the next office.

I'm going to have a lot of redundant AT switches as well as 3x 24 port gigabit PoE HP switches available if anyone is interested.

Will also have ~40 Aerohive AP330 access points as well.

Have a good xmas and hopefully hear from you all in the new year.
​

Regards
Simon Wright
ICT Manager

Best for boys through the right learning
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[Simon Wright]

Sounds like a mission Sue, was hoping to make you jealous with us going full HP.

Yes, i will post some screen shots, maybe a video once all said and done. We will be using AirWave for single pane of glass, management. I have never actually used it my self, only seen it in screenshots and videos.

As for the Aerohive APs, i will have to check, but i too think that the license can't be transferred, its one licence for about 40 APs.

I'm not looking to profit from this, if you want 1 AP or 10, doesn't matter, just a token gesture and freight will be fine.

Alastiar, what printer are you using? we have been doing our own Id cards for about 4 years now with a Zebra ZXP3 and using their card studio software. We have been refining our process every year and hoping next year will be our smoothest yet. We are changing to using a budget dslr with IDPhotoCapture software. We have used just the processing versions and the point-and-shoot version, but it was slow, the slr version is much better with a canon eos 1300D (we bought specifically for id photos). We just save the file with the id number at the time, little slow, but works.

I'm wanting to upgrade to a ZXP7 series as the ZXP3 quality and edge to edge printing isn't the best.

Hey Sam, yip Airwave is what we are going to use. We are using Hyper-V, because its free (for the full suite and functionality) and its proven to work fine over the past 4 years. It shouldn't be a too big a job, just setup the new servers and MSA storage, then migrate the VMs across. Hoping to have time to start migrating some VMs to Server 2016, but we'll see.

We are running windows 10 across all desktops and laptops now, will have to update my deployment for version 1709.

Regards
Simon Wright
ICT Manager

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[Simon Wright]

Hey Mike,

Yes, looks like a pretty light load for the summer.

I'm hoping once all this work is out the way, the year should be very cruisey for me ;)

Regards
Simon Wright
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[Craig Knights]

Make sure Ruckus controller is latest version.

Take a TV down, put a projector up.  Do the reverse somewhere else.

Upgrade Accessit Library to v9 today.

Migrate four or so laptops to new users.

Try to get our Google OU's etc to vaguely match the ones in our AD so can finally get the sync AD to Google done.

Have a couple of weeks off over Christmas, and try to get my head straight for the arrival of a totally analogue noise producing system at home..... ...

Craig

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[Arnold Santos]

Hi Mike,

Love to have a single pane of glass for the network management as well if only the MOE will allow us to choose what we want. Did you do this under WSNUP upgrade or you have to shell the all the cost?

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Queenstown Primary School
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[Simon Wright]

Hey Craig,

Did our access it upgrade to 9 the other day, was easy as.

If you need a hand with Google AD sync, let me know.

And yes, i will return your switch, i haven't forgotten!

Not sure what to make of your last sentence, is it an obscure reference to you and Petra having a baby???

Regards
Simon Wright
ICT Manager

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[Craig Knights]

Yeah Accessit looks easy.

Nah, should be OK with Google Sync, it's working, just our Google accounts are a bit messy.

No rush on the switch.

Would like to talk about acquiring the X900 switch and SFP's

The last sentence Yep!

CJK

[Arnold Santos]

Oh sorry! this should be for Simon.

Love to have a single pane of glass for the network management as well if only the MOE will allow us to choose what we want. Did you do this under WSNUP upgrade or you have to shell the all the cost?

Regards,

Arnold B. Santos
ICT Systems Administrator
Queenstown Primary School
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[Simon Wright]

I'm thinking you were directing it at me, if not i will answer for me anyway.

So earlier this year i knew that we were heading to 5 years post SNUP 3.x

We only have gigabit switches in the labs, we had added our own gigabit PoE switches to the main areas where we were going to have a lot of APs.

Being that we had AT switches and a Aerohive wireless network and that we are still trying to make traction with BYOD, i personally wanted a single vendor for switches and wireless with a single interface to manage the lot. I didn't want to have to log into individual switches and i'm not a huge fan of "doing it on the commandline".

I started working with my buddies at Cyclone and HP on designing a new network. I will point out at this stage we weren't part of WSNUP, our school wasn't in the spreadsheet ;)

About halfway through the year, TorqueIP came and did an audit for the MoE. I hounded Dave (sorry Dave) for months trying to find out if we were going to be apart of WSNUP or not. Eventually it turned out that no we werent. then about a month later they said yes. yay?

I have seen previously what WSNUP entails in other schools and once i saw the plan for us i said no, no, no. To me just adding non-PoE gigabit switches and using rack mount midspan injectors isn't good practise let alone best practise. We had a few years ago moved to a full IP phone system and our cabinets were full of injectors. I had a good chat with the leads of WSNUP and came to an arrangement. Cyclone and HP themselves managed to satisfy the WSNUP requirements for us to put in Aruba wireless. As for the switch side of things, we came to an arrangement that allowed us to continue with using HP switches.

In MoE/WSNUP and even TorqueIP's defense, they all have their own guidelines/requirements and limited funds, which i totally understand. I think that for those of us who have the expertise/knowledge should always question things if they don't fit right with you. There are the schools that don't have in house expertise, which makes things harder for them.

the other side of things is that this whole upgrade is not cheap (about $55k outside of WSNUP), but needed to happen to keep us up to date and be future proof for the years to come. 

Hope that explains things better, if not, just keep asking questions.

Regards
Simon Wright
ICT Manager

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[Simon Wright]

Awesome, congratulations!

Regards
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[Arnold Santos]

Good on you, Simon! So if we insist that we need this specs instead of what they want to shove on our throat, we may be lucky. We understand about the costing of this equipment, just wanting to make sure it works seamlessly. 

Thanks again.

[Simon Wright]

There no harm in asking and pushing back a bit. Honestly i was surprised at the outcome, i thought it would be a case of do it our way or nothing. The only thing that still annoys me is the "allocation" in schools. We have to pay for 15 "out-of-scope" APs as 40 is whats allocated for our school. We need at least 55 to get decent coverage in every classroom and class related areas as well as admin and management areas. Sometimes it take getting someone from the MoE onsite to actually see (in the real world), rather than them looking a piece of paper.

Regards
Simon Wright
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[Blake Richardson]

We have a fews upgrades ourselves happening over the break.

20 x new MacBook Air Deployed into our Middle school pod

26 x new Apple iMac deployed around various parts of the school including 5K retina for myself :-)

3 x New Apple Mac Mini with 16GB Memory and 512 SSD to replace some of the older servers

10 x 128GB iPads into our centre for innovation 

7 x Epson EB-685Wi projectors installed into our junior school classrooms

Upgrading all of our system images to 10.13

Early next year I will be ordering 16 Cisco Meraki 10Gb switches mainly the MS225-48P units to continue our 10Gb expansion. 

That and the usual term break tasks such as backups, updates staff and student account creation / deletion. Like everyone else holidays are a busy time of year for us.

[Craig Knights]

with these 10Gb upgrades...

has anyone actually monitored 1Gb links and seen them saturated?

our links just don't seem to be THAT busy.

[Kevin Whelan]

On Tuesday, December 12, 2017 at 11:33:40 AM UTC+13, Mike Etheridge wrote:

Update FM Server to 16.

Install KAMAR Web files v4.

Set up new print server with PaperCut 17.

Replace Xserve, migrate data.

Replace domain name server.

Quite a light load this summer, should get a reasonable break.

Cheers!

Mike

just be aware the latest KAMAR web files only works on php5.6 has issues on php 7 (Damn Annoying) and some of the features only work if you publish it on SSL which isn't documented

also the config has an AD logon section, thats not live yet either apparantly, again undocumented

[Craig Knights]

Anyone doing Accessit Library upgrades to v9, beware it won't run on XP.  (yeah yeah I know, XP, blah blah blah)  or on machines with < 1.5GB or RAM (hey they're only catalogue machines)..

and you can't directly upgrade XP to 10, it's a reinstall....  sigh.

Right, find some more RAM in my cupboard..

CJK

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[Mike Etheridge]

Thanks for heads up. Maybe I can leave web files until January, wonder if they will advance any of these issues before then.

Mike

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From: Kevin Whelan

Date:15/12/2017 10:31 AM (GMT+12:00)

To: Techies for schools

Subject: Re: [techies-for-schools] Holiday Project(s)

On Tuesday, December 12, 2017 at 11:33:40 AM UTC+13, Mike Etheridge wrote:

Update FM Server to 16.

Install KAMAR Web files v4.

Set up new print server with PaperCut 17.

Replace Xserve, migrate data.

Replace domain name server.

Quite a light load this summer, should get a reasonable break.

Cheers!

Mike

just be aware the latest KAMAR web files only works on php5.6 has issues on php 7 (Damn Annoying) and some of the features only work if you publish it on SSL which isn't documented

also the config has an AD logon section, thats not live yet either apparantly, again undocumented

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[Pete Mundy]

Heya Craig

I guess you're running the full client on your catalog machines.

Do you know if the catalog can still be accessed OK via the web-browser interface without the increased RAM requirements?

TIA,

Pete

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[Kent]

Hi Kevin,

The portal itself should work on php 7  however we are aware of an issue with the iOS / Android access when the portal is hosed on PHP 7.  We are investigating this and hope to address soon.

Ideally you should be using SSL for the web portal given the nature of the data it's displaying - but if you don't - some functionality where users are transmitting personal details  (eg. Updating Details) is not available.  This is mentioned in our documentation, but we will make it more obvious and also add to the relevant pages affected by this requirement.

I've checked with the developer working on this and as far as he's aware the AD Logon section should be working.  I can't find any tickets from you about this issue - have you raised it with us to investigate further ?

Alternatively, our hosted option takes care of all of this for you.

Regards

Kent.

[Kevin Whelan]

Thanks Kent
I only installed it barely a month ago and was told there was no effort to get php 7 working in the near future and that the AD was nonfunctional at this stage as well,
If I had known I would have waited it out. teachers use the portal for their phones more than students do so staff were less than impressed when I updated and broke it.