Digital technology to become part of the New Zealand Curriculum and Te Marautanga o Aotearoa
Gerard MacManus
Digital technology will be fully integrated into the New Zealand Curriculum and Te Marautanga o Aotearoa in 2018.
Education Minister Hekia Parata has today announced the change to the New Zealand Curriculum at the NZTech Advance Education Technology Summit in Auckland.
Formally integrating digital technology into the curriculum is intended to support young people to develop skills, confidence and interest in digital technologies and lead them to opportunities across the IT sector.
It will be included as a strand of the Technology learning area in the New Zealand Curriculum, and as a whenu within the Hangarau Wāhanga Ako of Te Marautanga o Aotearoa.
The decision is an outcome of the Government’s Science and Society Strategic Plan ‘A Nation of Curious Minds: Te Whenua Hihiri i te Mahara which reviewed the positioning and content of digital technology within the New Zealand Curriculum and Te Marautanga o Aotearoa.
From now until the end of 2017, the Government will consult with stakeholders, design new curriculum content, and develop achievement objectives across the whole learner pathway.
It will be fully integrated into the New Zealand Curriculum and Te Marautanga o Aotearoa in 2018.
Kevin Whelan
We've been having numerous conversations with teachers and loud consensus say they are astounded at the low level of this years 7-9 ICT knowledge starting school. We have been BYOD for a few years and ran pclabs before that and it was always a given that students knew as much or more than most teachers and each year it would become easier to integrate the new students into the school system but I don't know what has happened at primary levels but the new kids have absolutely no idea about computers or simple things like saving a file and having folders.
There seems to have been an obvious dumbing down over the last few years and what we once considered to be a boys natural curiosity with tech things in general, they just don't even want to know
they know enough that as long as snapchat works and facebook,thats all that matters
I realise that ipads and chromebooks don't really need those skills and perhaps modern life is you don't really need to know what goes on but as far as any of our students becoming hackers, thats laughable
Does nobody just take things apart to see why they work anymore,
Julian Davison
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trevor storr
Does nobody just take things apart to see why they work anymore,
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Craig Knights
Or using keyboards. They use capslock not shift. Really weird to see 3 or 4 years ago. For many the only keyboard they ever use is mine for passwords.
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J B
It's down to the consumerisation of everything, everything had to be able to be used by cavepeople. The day that advertisers decided schools could do everything with a tablet and only a tablet, and schools and the MoE started believing them is when it started to go.
We have some teachers that complain bitterly about not having enough tablets as only tablets will do. The uber reliable desktops sit unused because a keyboard and mouse are against their beliefs. Where as some of the other teachers will happily use all the resources, popular or not and have much better outcomes.
Using a computer is not taught in many places any more, having been replaced with drooling and poking at the latest app of questionable value.
Ict should have been in the actual curriculum ages ago as until it is, it will still be disregarded by many.
The scary thing is their wording, which stakeholders, are they asking Google, Apple and Microsoft which one wants to develop a curriculum for them. I hope it will be more universal and generic but I lost certainty in that several programs ago.
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Must be time to start using divorak keyboards.....
On Tuesday, 6 September 2016, Craig Knights <craig....@gmail.com> wrote:
Or using keyboards. They use capslock not shift. Really weird to see 3 or 4 years ago. For many the only keyboard they ever use is mine for passwords.
On 6/09/2016 4:49 pm, "Alistair Baird" <bai...@stpeterspn.school.nz> wrote:
" kids have absolutely no idea about computers or simple things like saving a file and having folders"
That's because they don't save files anymore, they just stream everything or save into into the cloud.
On 6 September 2016 at 16:39, trevor storr <tre...@storr.org.nz> wrote:
Does nobody just take things apart to see why they work anymore,
This is the essence of it. The changes are about understanding how the technology works and using it to make more technology.
On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Julian Davison <jul...@davison.org.nz> wrote:
Nobody has time as they're glued to Netflix/Facebook/Snapchat
On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Kevin Whelan <kwhel...@gmail.com> wrote:
maybe not before time
We've been having numerous conversations with teachers and loud consensus say they are astounded at the low level of this years 7-9 ICT knowledge starting school. We have been BYOD for a few years and ran pclabs before that and it was always a given that students knew as much or more than most teachers and each year it would become easier to integrate the new students into the school system but I don't know what has happened at primary levels but the new kids have absolutely no idea about computers or simple things like saving a file and having folders.
There seems to have been an obvious dumbing down over the last few years and what we once considered to be a boys natural curiosity with tech things in general, they just don't even want to know
they know enough that as long as snapchat works and facebook,thats all that matters
I realise that ipads and chromebooks don't really need those skills and perhaps modern life is you don't really need to know what goes on but as far as any of our students becoming hackers, thats laughable
Does nobody just take things apart to see why they work anymore,
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Patrick Dunford
What I have been told at a local primary school is the curriculum
does not demand anything more than a Chromebook to fulfill, the
real pressure is to get rid of the dedicated computer suite and
use the classroom space for something else. That is the added
expense over desktops, which can't be carried around the school.
Mike Etheridge
Text to speech is looking pretty good! Google's Voice Typing using a phone works well.Now if it could just understand .NET ...
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On 6 September 2016 at 17:21, Alistair Baird <bai...@stpeterspn.school.nz> wrote:
Must be time to start using divorak keyboards.....
Or using keyboards. They use capslock not shift. Really weird to see 3 or 4 years ago. For many the only keyboard they ever use is mine for passwords.
On 6/09/2016 4:49 pm, "Alistair Baird" <bai...@stpeterspn.school.nz> wrote:
" kids have absolutely no idea about computers or simple things like saving a file and having folders"That's because they don't save files anymore, they just stream everything or save into into the cloud.
On 6 September 2016 at 16:39, trevor storr <tre...@storr.org.nz> wrote:
Does nobody just take things apart to see why they work anymore,This is the essence of it. The changes are about understanding how the technology works and using it to make more technology.
On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Julian Davison <jul...@davison.org.nz> wrote:
Nobody has time as they're glued to Netflix/Facebook/Snapchat
On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Kevin Whelan <kwhel...@gmail.com> wrote:
maybe not before time
We've been having numerous conversations with teachers and loud consensus say they are astounded at the low level of this years 7-9 ICT knowledge starting school. We have been BYOD for a few years and ran pclabs before that and it was always a given that students knew as much or more than most teachers and each year it would become easier to integrate the new students into the school system but I don't know what has happened at primary levels but the new kids have absolutely no idea about computers or simple things like saving a file and having folders.
There seems to have been an obvious dumbing down over the last few years and what we once considered to be a boys natural curiosity with tech things in general, they just don't even want to know
they know enough that as long as snapchat works and facebook,thats all that matters
I realise that ipads and chromebooks don't really need those skills and perhaps modern life is you don't really need to know what goes on but as far as any of our students becoming hackers, thats laughable
Does nobody just take things apart to see why they work anymore,
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J B
I was meaning more desktops in the classrooms. They do take space but they always have, I don't understand why the acceptability has changed.
As to monetary cost over the lifespan desktops work out cheaper in most cases due to them being repairable and having a usable lifespan that is more like five years than two.
As to computer suites there are benefits they are epic for teaching how to use programs to a whole class and they are great for e-settle testing which requires a certain screen size, and last I checked, flash. It also helps with the whole quiet environment for testing thing. They are great in school areas that can not afford BYOD for all areas.
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What I have been told at a local primary school is the curriculum does not demand anything more than a Chromebook to fulfill, the real pressure is to get rid of the dedicated computer suite and use the classroom space for something else. That is the added
expense over desktops, which can't be carried around the school.
It's down to the consumerisation of everything, everything had to be able to be used by cavepeople. The day that advertisers decided schools could do everything with a tablet and only a tablet, and schools and the MoE started believing them is when it started to go.
We have some teachers that complain bitterly about not having enough tablets as only tablets will do. The uber reliable desktops sit unused because a keyboard and mouse are against their beliefs. Where as some of the other teachers will happily use all the resources, popular or not and have much better outcomes.
Using a computer is not taught in many places any more, having been replaced with drooling and poking at the latest app of questionable value.
Ict should have been in the actual curriculum ages ago as until it is, it will still be disregarded by many.
The scary thing is their wording, which stakeholders, are they asking Google, Apple and Microsoft which one wants to develop a curriculum for them. I hope it will be more universal and generic but I lost certainty in that several programs ago.
Sent from my Windows 10 phone
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Sent: Tuesday, 6 September 2016 5:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [techies-for-schools] Digital technology to become part of the New Zealand Curriculum and Te Marautanga o Aotearoa
Must be time to start using divorak keyboards.....
On Tuesday, 6 September 2016, Craig Knights <craig....@gmail.com> wrote:
Or using keyboards. They use capslock not shift. Really weird to see 3 or 4 years ago. For many the only keyboard they ever use is mine for passwords.
On 6/09/2016 4:49 pm, "Alistair Baird" <bai...@stpeterspn.school.nz> wrote:
" kids have absolutely no idea about computers or simple things like saving a file and having folders"
That's because they don't save files anymore, they just stream everything or save into into the cloud.
On 6 September 2016 at 16:39, trevor storr <tre...@storr.org.nz> wrote:
Does nobody just take things apart to see why they work anymore,
This is the essence of it. The changes are about understanding how the technology works and using it to make more technology.
On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Julian Davison <jul...@davison.org.nz> wrote:
Nobody has time as they're glued to Netflix/Facebook/Snapchat
On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Kevin Whelan <kwhel...@gmail.com> wrote:
maybe not before time
We've been having numerous conversations with teachers and loud consensus say they are astounded at the low level of this years 7-9 ICT knowledge starting school. We have been BYOD for a few years and ran pclabs before that and it was always a given that students knew as much or more than most teachers and each year it would become easier to integrate the new students into the school system but I don't know what has happened at primary levels but the new kids have absolutely no idea about computers or simple things like saving a file and having folders.
There seems to have been an obvious dumbing down over the last few years and what we once considered to be a boys natural curiosity with tech things in general, they just don't even want to know
they know enough that as long as snapchat works and facebook,thats all that matters
I realise that ipads and chromebooks don't really need those skills and perhaps modern life is you don't really need to know what goes on but as far as any of our students becoming hackers, thats laughable
Does nobody just take things apart to see why they work anymore,
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J B
So is Google, perhaps even more so now.
From: Mike Etheridge
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Text to speech is looking pretty good! Google's Voice Typing using a phone works well.
Now if it could just understand .NET ...
regards,
Tim Harper
Phone 03 443 5167 (messages cannot be left on this number)
Mobile 027 443 1236
t...@mtaspiring.school.nz
www.mtaspiring.school.nz
On 6 September 2016 at 17:21, Alistair Baird <bai...@stpeterspn.school.nz> wrote:
Must be time to start using divorak keyboards.....
Or using keyboards. They use capslock not shift. Really weird to see 3 or 4 years ago. For many the only keyboard they ever use is mine for passwords.
On 6/09/2016 4:49 pm, "Alistair Baird" <bai...@stpeterspn.school.nz> wrote:
" kids have absolutely no idea about computers or simple things like saving a file and having folders"
That's because they don't save files anymore, they just stream everything or save into into the cloud.
On 6 September 2016 at 16:39, trevor storr <tre...@storr.org.nz> wrote:
Does nobody just take things apart to see why they work anymore,
This is the essence of it. The changes are about understanding how the technology works and using it to make more technology.
On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Julian Davison <jul...@davison.org.nz> wrote:
Nobody has time as they're glued to Netflix/Facebook/Snapchat
On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Kevin Whelan <kwhel...@gmail.com> wrote:
maybe not before time
We've been having numerous conversations with teachers and loud consensus say they are astounded at the low level of this years 7-9 ICT knowledge starting school. We have been BYOD for a few years and ran pclabs before that and it was always a given that students knew as much or more than most teachers and each year it would become easier to integrate the new students into the school system but I don't know what has happened at primary levels but the new kids have absolutely no idea about computers or simple things like saving a file and having folders.
There seems to have been an obvious dumbing down over the last few years and what we once considered to be a boys natural curiosity with tech things in general, they just don't even want to know
they know enough that as long as snapchat works and facebook,thats all that matters
I realise that ipads and chromebooks don't really need those skills and perhaps modern life is you don't really need to know what goes on but as far as any of our students becoming hackers, thats laughable
Does nobody just take things apart to see why they work anymore,
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Kevin Whelan
what about teaching them skills that will transfer to later life
Are they going to go to uni and write essays on an ipad, I suppose it could be done but good luck with carpel and bad posture
will their boss make them work on a chromebook
I know xero is web based but I think excel and databases will still be around for a few years yet
you can't fairly expect a high school teacher to get students thru senior maths with excel graphs if they never used a keyboard or seen excel until they get to year 9
I don't think the PC is dead yet and Iv'e seen John Key on the news saying there's not enough students IT trained for the NZ marketplace and that's where all the jobs and money are constantly which is a load of fdust
WHS Ict Technician
I teach a little codeclub (using codeclub aotearoa's resources) and the lower/middle school students who come are like sponges, picking the ideas up so quickly.
A question that should probably be asked is: who is going to get the staff up to speed? Given that 95% of my time is spent saying "have you checked the printing preset" I'm not sure that there's many people around who can teach students how computers work...
Patrick Dunford
Because they make out that carrying a laptop to a classroom and working directly in the classroom is a more convenient option. Even though you can put some desktops into a classroom.
I agree on the desktop costs, Chromebooks are uneconomic to
repair unless you can find a third party parts supply that is
close to the actual manufacturing cost, instead of being quoted
$250 for a new battery.
Alistair Baird
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Just read this, interesting
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Patrick Dunford
It could be a part of the debate over the widespread use of Chromebooks and tablets in learning situations today.
When I went to Polytech for my diploma in ICT, a lot of subjects
were taught without any computers in any classrooms, using
traditional learning methods. They still don't use computers for
every single part of the coursework, even when teaching computer
related technology subjects.
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SteveC
Perhaps there is a logical progression here ...
J B
Perhaps the start is to dilute the tablet only, app only marketing job that has been put forward in conferences and magazines and stop villifying the PC for taking up room. Stop programs like Snup from underprovisioning wired ports from schools and pushing for wifi only. An environment has been created that is very hostile to certain things, usually the stuff that makes content creation and use of tech easier later.
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Patrick Dunford
The push for SNUP is for BYOD to get the Ministry off the hook of funding school computers so that the cost can be pushed onto parents. In turn this means also fewer classrooms tied up with fixed in place desktop computers.
On the other hand the dedicated computer suite with rows of desks
for computers is now old hat, and at schools we increasingly see
dual use classrooms with regular desks in the middle and computer
desks around the walls for their desktops.