Wireless Options

[Blake Richardson]

Hi Everyone

I am starting the process of looking into wireless providers, currently we are using Ruckus however recently we have been having problems with a particular model of AP but which doesn't seem to like our network. I've spent 6 months now trying to get this resolved and am not having much luck even with the supplier and Ruckus themselves being involved. 

Around 6 years ago we bought the Ruckus system and at the time I also remember looking at Trapeze, Extricom and Xirrus, Aerohive wasn't in NZ at that time. I need something that is fully managed, has good local support and is quick to deploy.

If anyone has any recommendations I would be very happy to hear them. 

Thanks!

[Alistair Baird]

If your Ruckus is 6 years old, that could be why you are likely having problems. We have issues with Apple devices not reconnecting after idle timeout - but due to the age of our hardware we are at the end of life. I believe there is a resolution to the Apple problem in the new hardware/firmware which we are about to get due to WSNUP. Otherwise Ruckus has been very good for us. 

I think Ubiquity was another option.

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[Craig Knights]

Which AP? We got burnt by problems with the older 7363 and had to move to ac band APs faster than we had planned..  then we had to enable proxy arp on the r600s to improve performance...

Craig

[Alistair Baird]

7962's.

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[Andrew Godfrey]

7962 units are EOL devices due to the insufficient RAM onboard.

We had all sorts of problems with them rebooting last year and had to keep running on older version of firmware until I could replace them all with R600 units which are performing really well alongside the 7982 units.

Our ZD is probably about 6 years old as well and still going strong.

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On 9 November 2016 at 12:24, Alistair Baird <bai...@stpeterspn.school.nz> wrote:

7962's.

On 9 November 2016 at 12:22, Craig Knights <craig....@gmail.com> wrote:

Which AP? We got burnt by problems with the older 7363 and had to move to ac band APs faster than we had planned..  then we had to enable proxy arp on the r600s to improve performance...

Craig

On 9/11/2016 11:53 am, "Blake Richardson" <bla...@stmargarets.school.nz> wrote:

Hi Everyone

I am starting the process of looking into wireless providers, currently we are using Ruckus however recently we have been having problems with a particular model of AP but which doesn't seem to like our network. I've spent 6 months now trying to get this resolved and am not having much luck even with the supplier and Ruckus themselves being involved. 

Around 6 years ago we bought the Ruckus system and at the time I also remember looking at Trapeze, Extricom and Xirrus, Aerohive wasn't in NZ at that time. I need something that is fully managed, has good local support and is quick to deploy.

If anyone has any recommendations I would be very happy to hear them. 

Thanks!

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[Andrew Godfrey]

On 9 November 2016 at 12:22, Craig Knights <craig....@gmail.com> wrote:

had to enable proxy arp on the r600s to improve performance

We've turned off the WLAN vlan tagged traffic on all of our switch ports except trunks between switches and to APs so those blinking arp requests don't propagate through the entire network. Might consider the proxy arp as well. Was it easy to do? Any gotchas?

[Craig Knights]

The proxy ARP caused an immediate massive jump in performance.  But we are running a very flat and broadcasty network...  which is where Ruckus recommends it..

yes the RAM limitation was what was causing the same issue on the 7363's too.

[Raewyn Nicholson]

We have Ruckus 7982's, with a couple of 7962/7343's dotted around.  Have been advised by our IT firm that to add anything new or update the 7962/7343's that are EOL we will need to upgrade our Zone Director (currently ZD100 through SNUP, two years old). 

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[Craig Knights]

we moved to a Ruckus vSCG to get away from the ZD upgrade cycle...  and you can add AP licenses one-at-a-time...

we have two ZD's sitting unused on our shelf..  quite annoying..

CJK

[Sam McNeill]

Hi Blake,

We did a PoC with Aruba in Term 3 using Airwave for reporting and ClearPass for on boarding - the results were outstanding. We were all set to replace our ~220 HPE access points with ~170 Aruba APs in January except due to staff leaving in the ICT team we have to delay this to April holidays most likely.

Happy to chat further if interested or put you in touch with who assisted in the PoC.

Cheers

Sam

[Patrick Dunford]

So what is the longevity of 7982s like?

We have 38 about to be ripped out and another school wants them, so they must be ok...?

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[Andrew Godfrey]

They've got more RAM so are fine for now. Ruckus has a EoL table on their support site.

[ictdi...@kowhai.school.nz]

We run Aerohive prior to and post SNUP and have been very happy with it. However I believe there was some sort of subsidy via SNUP which meant we got them at a reduced price and that subsidy has now expired so they are more expensive than other brands???

[Simon - OBHS]

We also run Aerohive...to the best of my knowledge, they no longer do an education pricing tier and the general costs have increased. I dont know how they compare to other brands, but from the top of my head it was roughly $1000 for an AP230 with 5 year licence.

[Jude Elliot]

Re Aerohive,  if anyone needs any HiveAP 330's we have many as we took Aerohive out as it never worked satisfactorily. They have poe's and wall brackets. No idea about licenses. Contact me on ju...@darfield.school.nz for more info.

Jude

On 15/11/2016 10:29 am, "Simon - OBHS" <simon....@obhs.school.nz> wrote:

We also run Aerohive...to the best of my knowledge, they no longer do an education pricing tier and the general costs have increased. I dont know how they compare to other brands, but from the top of my head it was roughly $1000 for an AP230 with 5 year licence.

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