Re: [techies-for-schools] Digest for techies-for-schools@googlegroups.com - 11 updates in 3 topics

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i tried the wpad method - using DHCP to send out the wpad details, with multiple forms of wpad file hosted on our web server. can't say i got it to work, tbh. had to manually set proxy settings to get the chomebook to make it through to google. worked for everything else (except osx 1.7 and up, which broke it)
our proxy was an authenticating one, though.

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• Chromebooks and proxy - 5 Updates
• To managed or not to managed - 3 Updates
• Weird issue with gmail on pfsense - 3 Updates

Chromebooks and proxy

Patrick Dunford <kahuk...@gmail.com>: Dec 09 03:48PM -0800 Yes we are.   I realise there is this chicken and egg situation, the Chromebook needs to somehow get its console settings from the internet but the network it is connected to has a proxy that may block those settings.   On Monday, 8 December 2014 16:45:30 UTC+13, Bevan McNaughton wrote:

Bevan McNaughton <bevan.mc...@southlandgirls.school.nz>: Dec 10 12:59PM +1300 In most cases I just create a temporary Wireless Network for provisioning devices (open or a simple WPA key) to get them to get the settings in the first place. Usually it's without any filtering on it at all. Once done & it's on the school configured WLAN I just turn off the provisioning A.P/SSID.     -- Bevan McNaughton Intranet Manager   Southland Girls' High School 328 Tweed Street Invercargill 9812   Phone: +64 3 211 6030 Fax: +64 3 216 9010

Patrick Dunford <kahuk...@gmail.com>: Dec 09 04:45PM -0800 This sounds kind of messy, is this a manual step each time, turning the wireless on/off.   We had on the Ipads we could send a profile to the ipad that expired after a certain time, they would be connecting to an open network for that period which gives them long enough to install any updates needed, and then switch to the restricted wireless system after that time.   On Wednesday, 10 December 2014 12:59:52 UTC+13, Bevan McNaughton wrote:

trevor storr <tre...@storr.org.nz>: Dec 10 07:05PM +1300 Have done both - temp wireless and a proxy exclusion list. The latter works best.

"Patrick Dunford" <kahuk...@gmail.com>: Dec 11 02:01AM +1300 Can you find me the list of sites you mentioned because I haven’t yet been able to find anything like that.   I have managed to discover I will need to set WPAD option in DHCP to get it to autoconfigure the proxy when they connect to the student wireless network.   Thanks   From: trevor storr Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 7:05 PM To: techies-f...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [techies-for-schools] Chromebooks and proxy   Have done both - temp wireless and a proxy exclusion list. The latter works best.   On 10/12/2014 1:45 PM, "Patrick Dunford" <kahuk...@gmail.com> wrote:   This sounds kind of messy, is this a manual step each time, turning the wireless on/off.   We had on the Ipads we could send a profile to the ipad that expired after a certain time, they would be connecting to an open network for that period which gives them long enough to install any updates needed, and then switch to the restricted wireless system after that time.   On Wednesday, 10 December 2014 12:59:52 UTC+13, Bevan McNaughton wrote: In most cases I just create a temporary Wireless Network for provisioning devices (open or a simple WPA key) to get them to get the settings in the first place. Usually it's without any filtering on it at all. Once done & it's on the school configured WLAN I just turn off the provisioning A.P/SSID.   On 10 December 2014 at 12:48, Patrick Dunford <kahuk...@gmail.com> wrote:   Yes we are.   I realise there is this chicken and egg situation, the Chromebook needs to somehow get its console settings from the internet but the network it is connected to has a proxy that may block those settings.   On Monday, 8 December 2014 16:45:30 UTC+13, Bevan McNaughton wrote: Are you using the ChromeBook Management Console for your Chomrbooks? https://www.google.co.nz/chrome/business/devices/features-management-console.html     On 5 December 2014 at 14:01, Patrick Dunford <kahuk...@gmail.com> wrote:   I am trying to get one of our Chromebooks to work on a proxy but I want it to use the WPAD to automatically config the proxy if possible. This however doesn't seem to work well.   Has anyone tried out this sort of thing with a Chromebook?   Almost need some system to authenticate their Google Apps logon to the proxy, would make life a lot simpler...   -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Techies for schools" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to techies-for-sch...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.           --   Bevan McNaughton Intranet Manager   Southland Girls' High School 328 Tweed Street Invercargill 9812   Phone: +64 3 211 6030 Fax: +64 3 216 9010 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Techies for schools" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to techies-for-sch...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.           --   Bevan McNaughton Intranet Manager   Southland Girls' High School 328 Tweed Street Invercargill 9812   Phone: +64 3 211 6030 Fax: +64 3 216 9010 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Techies for schools" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to techies-for-sch...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.   -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Techies for schools" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to techies-for-sch...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

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To managed or not to managed

Arnold Santos <arn...@queenstown.school.nz>: Dec 09 03:56PM -0800 Hi all,   We are in a stage of reviewing how our infrastructure should be for next year 2015. Given the fact that nowadays all are opting to use the cloud as their storage. I'm just wondering should we just release all our school-owned devices from being managed by MS AD and treat them as their own device and use the common Google Drive as main storage and just give rights of access to the particular group. Since every device nowadays are capable of accessing them, why not maximize the use of it. We have a pods of netbooks, macbooks, ipad and chromebooks and instead of having a local shared folder, why not use the drive for it. All docs and files readily accessible by then, bandwith should not be an issue I suppose since we are already on Fibre (N4L). BYOD are already established and being used, but need to be fully utilized. Printing are only be done thru teacher and not by the student. The use of Google Apps for Educ are the primary tools instead of MS Office suite or Apple iWorks, but they can still upload their files if they insist.   Anyone who would like to gives an idea are most welcome.   Regards,   Arnold

Gerard MacManus <task...@gmail.com>: Dec 10 01:25PM +1300 I can think of a couple of reasons to leave them on ad, mainly around maintenance and troubleshooting, wifi access, windows updates and general software rollout a through group policy. Antivirus.   Gerard MacManus St Bedes College

Arnold Santos <arn...@queenstown.school.nz>: Dec 10 01:28PM +1300 We are also using Meraki System Manager and I'm thinking will this be sufficient to do techie stuff? We're planning to eliminate the local shared folders as much as possible. AV should be there by default.       > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to techies-for-sch...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.   -- *Arnold B. Santos* ICT Systems Administrator Queenstown Primary School ________________________   Apple Certified Technical Coordinator 10.8 Apple Certified Support Professional 10.8   *This email may contain confidential information intended for the recipient. If you receive this email in error please contact me.*

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Weird issue with gmail on pfsense

Arnold Santos <arn...@queenstown.school.nz>: Dec 09 01:07PM -0800 Hi Guys,   I have this weird issue with Google Mail in pfsense on authenticated proxy, it will comes up occassionaly as being not able to work (service not available), but the rest of Google Apps like Drive, Calendar, etc. users are able to use. Tried restarting the service squid and squidguard but it seems no luck, I end up restarting the whole pfsense and it will be back normally. Any ideas who I can resolve the issue with rebooting?   Regards,   Arnold

Andrew Godfrey <godf...@burnside.school.nz>: Dec 10 10:20AM +1300 What's the state of your state table when this happens? Maybe it is filling up and rebooting clears out the state table before it fills up again.   *_______________________________________*   *Andrew Godfrey* | Network Manager | Burnside High School | Christchurch | New Zealand   On 10 December 2014 at 10:07, Arnold Santos <arn...@queenstown.school.nz> wrote:

Arnold Santos <arn...@queenstown.school.nz>: Dec 10 10:37AM +1300 I have pretty good size for the states connection. At the moment it's only 8% at of 202000. I've noticed the CPU usage is firing up to 90-95% occasionally but remain stable at 55-68%, memory is stage at 31%, no swap disk usage 7%. Will resetting the states gonna affect other services?   Regards,   On 10 December 2014 at 10:20, Andrew Godfrey <godf...@burnside.school.nz> wrote:   > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to techies-for-sch...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.   -- *Arnold B. Santos* ICT Systems Administrator Queenstown Primary School ________________________   Apple Certified Technical Coordinator 10.8 Apple Certified Support Professional 10.8   *This email may contain confidential information intended for the recipient. If you receive this email in error please contact me.*

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