Anga Fefee e Fakafotunga'i e Fakamo'ui

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seni taniela

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Jim Wallis Agenda for Biblical People (p.93) - The churches have secularisedthe kingdom by identifying it with ideologies, programs, movements, institutions, and governments; they have individualised it by restricting it to the inner recesses of the heart; they have spiritualised it by removing it entirely to heaven; or they have futurised it by speaking of it only in connection with apocalyptic events at the end of time.
'Oku hanga 'e Wallis 'o talamai (mei he'ene a'usia he ngaue he urban poor) 'ae fai-fakamaau (judgemental) moe fakapokopokosi'i 'a e kau evangelical, pea 'i he tafa'aki 'e taha, 'a e maatu'aki mamaha fakalaumalie (spiritual dryness) pea 'e iku 'o hela'ia (run out of energy) 'a e liberalism
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Feefee ke tau hiki mai ki heni kae 'ataa atu e lavelave e kau tama koee.
 
Malo ho'o 'omi e lau mo'oni ko 'ena 'a Jim Wallis.  'Iloa a Jim he kau evangelical left poupou ki he tafa'aki democratic party mo e tui ki he fa'ahinga healthcare system ko ia Obama etc.
 
'Oku ou tui 'oku mo'oni e lave ko 'enaa I he context a e kau evangelical a Tonga, mahalo mo NZ, mahalo mo ha konga o Aositeleelia mo ha konga I Amelika ni ka 'oku 'ikai ke mo'oni ia ki he kotoa a e kau evangelical.
 
'Oku ou vakai hifo ko e tohi ko 'enaa ne publish he 1976 aia ne fu'u mo'oni e fakaangaa ko iaa he ngaahi ta'u ko iaa.  Taimi ia ne hot e feinga e kau evangelical hangee ko Jerry Falwell ke iai ha paati Kalisitiane mo e feinga'i he "Faka-kalisitiane'i" e politikalee aia ko e approach ia ne fu'u too kitu'a (extreme) pea oku pehee e he kau Kalisitiane tokolahi ko e fehalaaki ia.
 
I he ta'u e tolungofulu kuo hilii, mahina e "teachable" e ngaahi Siasi evangelical o ikai fakangatangata pee enau fai e lotuu ki he me'a ko ena oku lave ki ai Wallis ka oku nau involve I he feinga ke tokoni ki he masiva mo e transform e sosaietii.
 
I he Campus Crusade oku iai e ministry ko e Here's Life Inner City aia ko e tokoni ki he kau homeless mo e kau masiva etc he ngaahi kolo lalahii, iai mo e Global Aid Network ke ave e ngaahi tokoni humanitarian Aid ki he ngaahi fonua tukuhausia.  I he ngaahi mahina kuo hilii, he high light e he Christianity Today e taha e ngaahi siasii evangelical oku "radical" enau feinga ke fakahaa atu a Kalaisi I he hanga e hono kau memipa tuumalie o fakatau atu honau ngaahi 'api ka nau hiki o nofo he ngaahi feitu'u oku lahi ai e faihiaa mo e masivaa  ke nau reach out ki he kakai ko iaa. 
 
Ne fakaafe'i a Rick Warren ki he United Nation World Economic Forum I Afilika he ngaahi ta'u kuohilii koeuhii ko ene tokoni laui miliona ki he tau'i e Eitisi I he ngaahi fonua Afilikaa.
 
I he ministry a Billy Graham oku osi fokotu'u ene vaa tokoni ki he kau masiva ko e Samaritan Purse etc....
 
I he 'aho e ua kuo hilii ne hoko e ta'u 95 o Billy Graham pea ne fakalele he ngaahi kautaha tv hangee FOX 'ene share e "Kosipeli" mei hono 'api nofo'angaa.  Ne ha'u kiate au e fakakaukau ko ia ne ke a'usia mo hono hoaa I Pilitaniaa...rich evangelical preached the gospel then they go to starbuck etc.
 
Ko e fehu'ii leva...me'a nii oku ta'efakafolofola e share mai e Kosipelii e Dr Graham mei hono api tu'umalie ki he kakai o Amelika oku fele 'a e kau masiva?  E uhinga malie nai e Kosipelii ki ha kau homeless ne nau sio he polokalama ni?  Me'a nii te tau tali ke toki fakahoko pee "verbal presentation" o e Kosipelii ki he mamani kae'oua kuo tau 'iai ke fakahasino I he'etau to'ongaa e mo'ui faka-Kosipelii?
 
Ko e me'a oku mahino oku iai e tupu ia e maturity e teolosia e kau evangelical tautautefito I Amelika he oku nau aware ki he toonounou ko ena oku lave ki ai a Wallis...kae mahalo oku pa'ipi tonu e lau 'I Tonga pea oku totonu ke fai ki ai ha tokanga a Sepesi, Dr. Palu, mo Fakapulia.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Lone & Seni mo kataki pee - 'oku 'ikai ko e 'ai eni ia ke pehe 'oku mo'oni. Koe tasilisili pee

Koe mavaeua ko eni 'a e evangelical & liberalism (Seni & Lone), 'oku matamata 'e kosipeli kehekehe leva 'e ua pea ko e tailiili he 'e ua ai pee Sisu. Koe Sisu 'e taha ki he fakamo'ui au (personal salvation), pea taha ki he haakeaki'i mei he masiva (social salvation).

Pea kapau 'oku mavaeua ai pee 'o takitaha e ongo kauhala pea 'oku tau 'ilo pee 'oku 'ikai good news eni ki he siasi, he 'oku hanga 'e he mavaeua ko eni 'o fkfemou'ekina'i kitautolu 'o femolimoli'i he ongo tafa'aki pea iku pakau loa ai e siasi. (the division undernourished the church & so ineffective in its witness).

Koe lahilahi ko eni e taonakita 'i Tonga, pea pehee kihe 'asi 'a e fiekaia mo e tukuhausia, pea hange ekoe ngaahi paloplema 'o e grugs & alcohol. These are not good news! Koe fiema'u 'apee ke tau to e uku hifo ke loloto ange ki ha kosipeli kakato - a more holistic gospel te ne falute mai 'a e persona, social & politcal imperatives of slavation. He koe fokotu'u mai ke fili ki he 'mo'ui' koe talavou atu, ka koe fehu'i pe 'e lava nai?

Lousiale Uasike

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Tukunga tatau ne fehangahangai mo S.Uesile hono taimi pea mo e kuonga kimu'a ka na'a ne make a connection in his 'middle way' approach ke valelei 'a e kau 'overvaluers of reason' (liberals) mo e kau 'undervaluers of reason' (evangelicals). Ko e fkmahamahalo pe

Lou

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Ko hai e kau undervaluers of reason ko ia he taimi 'o e ongo 'Uesile? Kou tui 'e kau atu mo e ongo Uesile ki ai mo Whitefield, etc, etc,... Kataki ko e fie'ilo pe.


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On Monday, November 11, 2013, Lousiale Uasike wrote:

Tukunga tatau ne fehangahangai mo S.Uesile hono taimi pea mo e kuonga kimu'a ka na'a ne make a connection in his 'middle way' approach ke valelei 'a e kau 'overvaluers of reason' (liberals) mo e kau 'undervaluers of reason' (evangelicals). Ko e fkmahamahalo pe

Lou

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Jim Wallis Agenda for Biblical People (p.93) - The churches have secularisedthe kingdom by identifying it with ideologies, programs, movements, institutions, and governments; they have individualised it by restricting it to the inner recesses of the heart; they have spiritualised it by removing it entirely to heaven; or they have futurised it by speaking of it only in connection with apocalyptic events at the end of time.
'Oku hanga 'e Wallis 'o talamai (mei he'ene a'usia he ngaue he urban poor) 'ae fai-fakamaau (judgemental) moe fakapokopokosi'i 'a e kau evangelical, pea 'i he tafa'aki 'e taha, 'a e maatu'aki mamaha fakalaumalie (spiritual dryness) pea 'e iku 'o hela'ia (run out of energy) 'a e liberalism
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Feefee ke tau hiki mai ki heni kae 'ataa atu e lavelave e kau tama koee.
 
Malo ho'o 'omi e lau mo'oni ko 'ena 'a Jim Wallis.  'Iloa a Jim he kau evangelical left poupou ki he tafa'aki democratic party mo e tui ki he fa'ahinga healthcare system ko ia Obama etc.
 
'Oku ou tui 'oku mo'oni e lave ko 'enaa I he context a e kau evangelical a Tonga, mahalo mo NZ, mahalo mo ha konga o Aositeleelia mo ha konga I Amelika ni ka 'oku 'ikai ke mo'oni ia ki he kotoa a e kau evangelical.
 
'Oku ou vakai hifo ko e tohi ko 'enaa ne publish he 1976 aia ne fu'u mo'oni e fakaangaa ko iaa he ngaahi ta'u ko iaa.  Taimi ia ne hot e feinga e kau evangelical hangee ko Jerry Falwell ke iai ha paati Kalisitiane mo e feinga'i he "Faka-kalisitiane'i" e politikalee aia ko e approach ia ne fu'u too kitu'a (extreme) pea oku pehee e he kau Kalisitiane tokolahi ko e fehalaaki ia.
 
I he ta'u e tolungofulu kuo hilii, mahina e "teachable" e ngaahi Siasi evangelical o ikai fakangatangata pee enau fai e lotuu ki he me'a ko ena oku lave ki ai Wallis ka oku nau involve I he feinga ke tokoni ki he masiva mo e transform e sosaietii.
 
I he Campus Crusade oku iai e ministry ko e Here's Life Inner City aia ko e tokoni ki he kau homeless mo e kau masiva etc he ngaahi kolo lalahii, iai mo e Global Aid Network ke ave e ngaahi tokoni humanitarian Aid ki he ngaahi fonua tukuhausia.  I he ngaahi mahina kuo hilii, he high light e he Christianity Today e taha e ngaahi siasii evangelical oku "radical" enau feinga ke fakahaa atu a Kalaisi I he hanga e hono kau memipa tuumalie o fakatau atu honau ngaahi 'api ka nau hiki o nofo he ngaahi feitu'u oku lahi ai e faihiaa mo e masivaa  ke nau reach out ki he kakai ko iaa. 
 
Ne fakaafe'i a Rick Warren ki he United Nation World Economic Forum I Afilika he ngaahi ta'u kuohilii koeuhii ko ene tokoni laui miliona ki he tau'i e Eitisi I he ngaahi fonua Afilikaa.
 
I he ministry a Billy Graham oku osi fokotu'u ene vaa tokoni ki he kau masiva ko e Samaritan Purse etc....
 
I he 'aho e ua kuo hilii ne

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I he 'aho e ua kuo hilii ne hoko e ta'u 95 o Billy Graham pea ne fakalele he ngaahi kautaha tv hangee FOX 'ene share e "Kosipeli" mei hono 'api nofo'angaa.  Ne ha'u kiate au e fakakaukau ko ia ne ke a'usia mo hono hoaa I Pilitaniaa...rich evangelical preached the gospel then they go to starbuck etc.
 
Ko e fehu'ii leva...me'a nii oku ta'efakafolofola e share mai e Kosipelii e Dr Graham mei hono api tu'umalie ki he kakai o Amelika oku fele 'a e kau masiva?  E uhinga malie nai e Kosipelii ki ha kau homeless ne nau sio he polokalama ni?  Me'a nii te tau tali ke toki fakahoko pee "verbal presentation" o e Kosipelii ki he mamani kae'oua kuo tau 'iai ke fakahasino I he'etau to'ongaa e mo'ui faka-Kosipelii?
 
Ko e me'a oku mahino oku iai e tupu ia e maturity e teolosia e kau evangelical tautautefito I Amelika he oku nau aware ki he toonounou ko ena oku lave ki ai a Wallis...kae mahalo oku pa'ipi tonu e lau 'I Tonga pea oku totonu ke fai ki ai ha tokanga a Sepesi, Dr. Palu, mo Fakapulia.
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Malo Seni

Malie ho'o pehee 'oku tupu in maturity 'ae evangelicals. 'Oku anga pehee pe nai e siasi? Ke evolve pe moe taimi pea 'oku tau faka'amu 'e tupu in spiritual conviction e tafa'aki 'e taha (the so called liberals), 'o toe fkmo'oni ko Sisu was just not a good guy, na'e 'ikai ko ha good role model pe, he just didn't have great moral ideas. He was God.

Ka 'oku ou fifili nai pe 'e lava 'e he tensions ko eni 'ae ongo halanga siasi 'o tau lalanga ai  ha teolosia fktonga. (Not the Tongan Jesus), ka ko ha Sisu 'oku lava ai e ongo faha'i fale 'o nofo fakataha 'i Tonga pea 'ikai ngata ai kae 'aonga foki meaning that it is effective to the personal, social and political beings of Tonga.

i) how can someone (Rev Ma'afu Palu?) say someone is not going to heaven.
Kapau koe Tohitapu tatau 'oku ma lau, 'oku 'ikai teu manatu'i ha pehee 'e Sisu clearly to someone - you're going to hell. Jesus called people strong names, etc, but I cannot see he said to them - dude you're going to hell.

ii) how can the church (SUTT?), ease up hono uki e misinale lalahi (mo fkmo'ua), pea moe ngaahi pola toho, moe langa fale lotu fklanulanu, ka e fkmo'ui e ngaahi ministry hangee ko:

iii) does political follow culture or what? - kataki koe ki'i fehu'i kehe pe ena ia he oku oli e fa'a fanongo he tipeiti ki fale alea o tonga





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Te u lave atu pe he tukunga 'oku 'iai e Fai'angalotu 'oku ou lotu ai he UCA. Ko e fai'angalotu eni ia 'oku kau hono fakafepaki'i mamafa e UCA he Fakasotoma moe ngahi issue 'oku 'ikai Fakatohitapu 'oku lolotonga pipine ai e mo'ui 'ae Siasi.

Ko e fakamo'oni ki he Kosipeli pe ko e Folofola hili hono malanga'i , taimi ia 'oku fai ai e lii pa'anga, pea 'oku tau fakafotunga ai 'etau tali e Folofola hono malanga'i mai ko e lii e pa'anga ki he ngahi misiona 'ae Siasi, ko e li pa'anga ko eni 'oku laka hake he $3000 he Sapate he ko e ma'u'anga kelesi 'e 3.

Mavahe mei ai, Ko e Misiona he mahina mahina kotoa pe 'ae Fai'angalotum ko e mahina ni, ko e tokoni ki he tamate afi, pea ko e 'osi pe 'a Nov 'oku fakama'opo'opo kotoa e pa'anga ko ia 'o 'ave ki ai.  Ko ia 'ae fakafotunga  'oku mau fai , he 'oku a'u 'ae Misiona mahina ki Afilika. Kuo 'osi tufa mai pe 'i "Aokosi ia 'emau ngahi ngeesi puha Su ke fa'o ai e me'a'ofa fe'unga moe $9 ke fakafolau atu , nemau m'au taki 4 mo 5 mai e puha 'o fakafonu, 'aki e lisi pe 'oku 'osi 'omai ke fai'aki e Shopping,lahi ai ko e naunau ako.

Ko e UCA 'oku ma'olunga taha 'ene fakafotunga ki he Komiuniti 'i ha toe Siasi, mei he lipooti fakamuimui taha mei he Uniting Care...

'Oku ou poupou ki he talanoa kuo fai, ke fakapapau'i 'oku tau fakafotunga 'ae fakamo'ui ,pea 'oua 'e sio mamafa mo tali ke te toki kau 'i ha me'a 'oku 'ilo 'e mamani kotoa pe, ka te kamata leva hange ko ia kuo kamata'i mai 'e Maafu mei Tonga ko e tokangaekina e fanau 'oku 'ikai lava totongi 'enau akoo...

Takamuli

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'Oku 'ikai ke u lave'i fau ki he Siasi 'i Tonga, ka na'aku toki sio hifo he youtube 'o Sio Hapa(fakatonutonu mai pe), 'oku nau fafanga e kakai "olokaholika mo mohe holo he hala kapau 'oku mo'oni ia.. ko e fakamatala 'oku 'iai e kau matu'a ai kuo 'iai honau ngahi Makapuna.. pea ko 'eku toki lave'i eni e kulupu ko ia, mahalo na'a ko ha feitu'u lelei ia ke fai ai ha sio ha toe folau atu.

Mahalo koe fakafotunga lahi taha hotau Siasi koe Ako pe, pea kau ai moe ngahi langa lalahi 'oku kei mo'ua ki ai e Siasi 'i Tonga, 'a ee 'oku ne hiki hake e lahi 'oe Misinale 'oe ngahi Siasi Fakakolo.

Kapau 'e huufi e Hall fo'ou 'o Kolofo'ou pea 'ai ia koha Centre ma'ae kau Masiva ee, ka 'oku tau manavasi'i na'a hoko e Senita ia ko ha me'a ke ne faka'ai'ai e nofo Masiva 'i Tonga.

Ko e fu'u hall ena 'o e Fanga 'o Pilolevu 'oku teu mo ia ke huufi , ko e laulau miliona Hall, ka 'oku 'ikai ke u lave'i ki he ngahi Misiona Fakakolo pe 'oku nau vakai ki he nofo masiva mo e tukuhausia pe ko e konga pe ia 'oe tekolo'i mo fakafotunga e fakamo'ui ki he nofo masiva, koe langa hall.

Takamuli.





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i) how can someone (Rev Ma'afu Palu?) say someone is not going to heaven.Kapau koe Tohitapu tatau 'oku ma lau, 'oku 'ikai teu manatu'i ha pehee 'e Sisu clearly to someone - you're going to hell. Jesus called people strong names, etc, but I cannot see he said to them - dude you're going to hell.


Mahalo na'a ko e Tohitapu fakatonga pe ia, ka 'oku lea pe 'a Sisu ki heli, tukukehe kapau 'oku 'iai ha'ate fakalea pe 'aata ke 'oua na'a 'asi ai ha lea 'a Sisu ki Heli.

Luke 10:15…

“And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted to heaven, shalt be thrust down to hell.”

Mark 9:45,46…

“And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.”

 
Luke 12:5…

“But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.”



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Takamuli fakamalo atu he ma'u ongoongo lelei mei he UCA 'oku ke kau ai. Takamuli oua e tuku tokanga aupito ki he founga he oku ke a'u koe ki he kau Masiva o Saute Afilika. God Bless you. Seniale

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Ko e misiona fakafotunga ko eni 'oku ou lave ki ai 'oku 'ikai to'o ia meihe 'emau pa'anga kuo budget he ta'u 'aee kuo mau lii sila ai mo direct deposit pe ki he acc 'oe Siasi.. 'Oku fa'o pe ia he Sila hinehina 'oku tohi ai Mission 'o laku pe he ngahi Sea he Sapate kotoa pe.

Ngahi Fakafounga he Mahina.
Sepitema- Assembly of Confessing Congregation with in the Uniting Church.

Okatopa- OpenDoors assists persecuted Christians

Novema -  UCA fire Appeal ..ke tokoni kiate kinautolu ne molehonau ngahi 'api 'ihe Afi.

'Oku teuteu atu ki he kumi e me'a'ofa ma'ae kau li'ekina 'o NSW... Burnsite Chrismas Gift appeal

Teu toki hukehuke hake 'emau ngahi Mission, mahalo na'a ko e fakafotunga ia 'oku tokanga ki ai e tepileni, pe 'oku to mama'o ko aa ia.

Taimi tatau he'ikai ke toknga ke 'ai e kae hange fakafotungamo'ui ia ha Papeliane, kuopau ke vakavakao pe 'ae to'ongamo'ui mo e a'u ki he masiva 'i he ngahi me'a'ofa.

Takamuli.


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Takamuli fakamalo atu he ma'u ongoongo lelei mei he UCA 'oku ke kau ai. Takamuli oua e tuku tokanga aupito ki he founga he oku ke a'u koe ki he kau Masiva o Saute Afilika. God Bless you. Seniale

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Te u lave atu pe he tukunga 'oku 'iai e Fai'angalotu 'oku ou lotu ai he UCA. Ko e fai'angalotu eni ia 'oku kau hono fakafepaki'i mamafa e UCA he Fakasotoma moe ngahi issue 'oku 'ikai Fakatohitapu 'oku lolotonga pipine ai e mo'ui 'ae Siasi.

Ko e fakamo'oni ki he Kosipeli pe ko e Folofola hili hono malanga'i , taimi ia 'oku fai ai e lii pa'anga, pea 'oku tau fakafotunga ai 'etau tali e Folofola hono malanga'i mai ko e lii e pa'anga ki he ngahi misiona 'ae Siasi, ko e li pa'anga ko eni 'oku laka hake he $3000 he Sapate he ko e ma'u'anga kelesi 'e 3.

Mavahe mei ai, Ko e Misiona he mahina mahina kotoa pe 'ae Fai'angalotum ko e mahina ni, ko e tokoni ki he tamate afi, pea ko e 'osi pe 'a Nov 'oku fakama'opo'opo kotoa e pa'anga ko ia 'o 'ave ki ai.  Ko ia 'ae fakafotunga  'oku mau fai , he 'oku a'u 'ae Misiona mahina ki Afilika. Kuo 'osi tufa mai pe 'i "Aokosi ia 'emau ngahi ngeesi puha Su ke fa'o ai e me'a'ofa fe'unga moe $9 ke fakafolau atu , nemau m'au taki 4 mo 5 mai e puha 'o fakafonu, 'aki e lisi pe 'oku 'osi 'omai ke fai'aki e Shopping,lahi ai ko e naunau ako.

Ko e UCA 'oku ma'olunga taha 'ene fakafotunga ki he Komiuniti 'i ha toe Siasi, mei he lipooti fakamuimui taha mei he Uniting Care..

'Oku ou poupou ki he talanoa kuo fai, ke fakapapau'i 'oku tau fakafotunga 'ae fakamo'ui ,pea 'oua 'e sio mamafa mo tali ke te toki kau 'i ha me'a 'oku 'ilo 'e mamani kotoa pe, ka te kamata leva hange ko ia kuo kamata'i mai 'e Maafu mei Tonga ko e tokangaekina e fanau 'oku 'ikai lava totongi 'enau akoo...

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Malo Sepesi e omi e ngaahi potu Folofola ko 'enaa...ta ko ena ne talanoa pee a Sisu fekau'aki pea mo heli.  Mahalo ko e toko tahamano ko ena ne mate I he taifuni I Filipaine, kapau ne nau ilo e fakafokifaa enau hiki ki itanitii, oku ou tui te nau fuu mahuinga'ia ha faahinga fekau e tokoni kia kinautolu ke nau hiki ki ha itaniti oku feohi mo e Otua


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