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David Dalton
Oct 13, 2014, 2:10:04 AM10/13/14
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Supposedly now the popthroughs are coming on?
What are the popthroughs?
I am claiming to be an avatar type with region extending
from the depth of the bottom of the Mariana Trench
(which is about 11 km down) up to the thermopause (the
thermosphere exosphere boundary) which varies from about
500 km height to about 1000 km height, but I have
divined that that variable boundary is OK.
As part of my opening of the way workings I am trying
to update past openings of the way by past avatar types,
dating back to the dawn of homo sapiens sapiens,
on original regions that are subsets of my region.
In this update the original workings will adjust such
that the change will have positive goodness towards
my region, with that goodness constrained by law.
The popthroughs (the adjusted workings) cover the following:
1. those with belief systems influenced by the original
workings (or the original avatar types) in my region
2. those now in the original region
3. those in my region who are descended from those who
were in the original region when the original
working became fully on
4. those still around in my region (e.g. long-lived non-human
demons who may have evaded the original working by leaving
the original region) who were covered by the original
working when it became fully on
5. the original region if it is a someone.
6. any who come to be in 1--4 in the future after
the popthrough is fully on (also e.g. if
someone covered just by being in 1 becomes
atheist they would no longer be covered
by the popthrough)
The categories of someones covered in the popthrough
are the same as those covered in the original working.
So if all someones (including any non-DNA-based demons)
in the original region were covered by the original
working then all someones in categories 1--6 are
covered in the popthrough. If just mammals were
covered then the popthrough just covers mammals.
If just humans were covered then the popthrough just
covers humans.
Supposedly the popthroughs began early Sunday morning
and the avatar types considered include homo sapiens
sapiens ones, Neanderthal ones, and cetacean ones,
and there are no non-DNA-based ones with regions that
are subsets of my region since the first avatar type
that was popthroughed, who was the first avatar type
who was homo sapiens sapiens at some point in his life
(which allows for the possibility that he transformed
from homo sapiens archaic to homo sapiens sapiens).
These popthroughs should catch both human criminals
and demon criminals if such exist. And following
the popthroughs will come more aspects of my opening
of the way including healing circle prescriptions
(which would involve lenient sentences for any
criminals including environmental criminals) for
each someone that is a subset of my region (or
for higher dimensional someones, for each someone
whose 3-D intersection is a subset of my region)
including me. Such healing circle prescriptions
whould be a sum of similar prescriptions from
the popthroughs plus a topup set by ALL, or for
any someone in my region (or who comes to be in my
region in the future) who is not covered by any
popthroughs, a healing circle prescription set
by ALL (the someone who is all/everything, or if
there is no exact match to that, the nearest someone
match to that as set by the source of my extinction
reel message).
The popthroughs are coming on in chronological order
of the original workings first coming on and they
are not yet up to any names I know, including Rama
who I think lived about 7000 years ago. But I
estimate they will all be on within the next 24 hours.
If this and perhaps a couple more attempts in the
next month or so (with the last perhaps coming after
Sarah McLachlan, my main human inspirer, comes to
town to give a concert) fail to work I guess I will
have to resort to bringing about change just through
my writing, but I have had little success with that
so far. However I expect to come out of the low
years into a period of sustained productive creativity
soon and that should improve my writing.
--
David Dalton dal...@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
"Mercy up and let me ride where the wind might join and soar me, I
looked into my lover's eyes and my lover's eyes looked past me." (Ferron)
What are the popthroughs?
I am claiming to be an avatar type with region extending
from the depth of the bottom of the Mariana Trench
(which is about 11 km down) up to the thermopause (the
thermosphere exosphere boundary) which varies from about
500 km height to about 1000 km height, but I have
divined that that variable boundary is OK.
As part of my opening of the way workings I am trying
to update past openings of the way by past avatar types,
dating back to the dawn of homo sapiens sapiens,
on original regions that are subsets of my region.
In this update the original workings will adjust such
that the change will have positive goodness towards
my region, with that goodness constrained by law.
The popthroughs (the adjusted workings) cover the following:
1. those with belief systems influenced by the original
workings (or the original avatar types) in my region
2. those now in the original region
3. those in my region who are descended from those who
were in the original region when the original
working became fully on
4. those still around in my region (e.g. long-lived non-human
demons who may have evaded the original working by leaving
the original region) who were covered by the original
working when it became fully on
5. the original region if it is a someone.
6. any who come to be in 1--4 in the future after
the popthrough is fully on (also e.g. if
someone covered just by being in 1 becomes
atheist they would no longer be covered
by the popthrough)
The categories of someones covered in the popthrough
are the same as those covered in the original working.
So if all someones (including any non-DNA-based demons)
in the original region were covered by the original
working then all someones in categories 1--6 are
covered in the popthrough. If just mammals were
covered then the popthrough just covers mammals.
If just humans were covered then the popthrough just
covers humans.
Supposedly the popthroughs began early Sunday morning
and the avatar types considered include homo sapiens
sapiens ones, Neanderthal ones, and cetacean ones,
and there are no non-DNA-based ones with regions that
are subsets of my region since the first avatar type
that was popthroughed, who was the first avatar type
who was homo sapiens sapiens at some point in his life
(which allows for the possibility that he transformed
from homo sapiens archaic to homo sapiens sapiens).
These popthroughs should catch both human criminals
and demon criminals if such exist. And following
the popthroughs will come more aspects of my opening
of the way including healing circle prescriptions
(which would involve lenient sentences for any
criminals including environmental criminals) for
each someone that is a subset of my region (or
for higher dimensional someones, for each someone
whose 3-D intersection is a subset of my region)
including me. Such healing circle prescriptions
whould be a sum of similar prescriptions from
the popthroughs plus a topup set by ALL, or for
any someone in my region (or who comes to be in my
region in the future) who is not covered by any
popthroughs, a healing circle prescription set
by ALL (the someone who is all/everything, or if
there is no exact match to that, the nearest someone
match to that as set by the source of my extinction
reel message).
The popthroughs are coming on in chronological order
of the original workings first coming on and they
are not yet up to any names I know, including Rama
who I think lived about 7000 years ago. But I
estimate they will all be on within the next 24 hours.
If this and perhaps a couple more attempts in the
next month or so (with the last perhaps coming after
Sarah McLachlan, my main human inspirer, comes to
town to give a concert) fail to work I guess I will
have to resort to bringing about change just through
my writing, but I have had little success with that
so far. However I expect to come out of the low
years into a period of sustained productive creativity
soon and that should improve my writing.
--
David Dalton dal...@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
"Mercy up and let me ride where the wind might join and soar me, I
looked into my lover's eyes and my lover's eyes looked past me." (Ferron)
David Dalton
Oct 13, 2014, 4:39:27 PM10/13/14
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de>,
category 1 since I have said that each original
working (of each popthrough) avatar type and
devi type are minor deities (about the level of
saints in Catholicism) to me.
<dalton-36F4A0....@static.213-239-209-88.clients.your-server.
de>,
David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com> wrote:
> The popthroughs (the adjusted workings) cover the following:
>
> 1. those with belief systems influenced by the original
> workings (or the original avatar types) in my region
>
> 2. those now in the original region
>
> 3. those in my region who are descended from those who
> were in the original region when the original
> working became fully on
>
> 4. those still around in my region (e.g. long-lived non-human
> demons who may have evaded the original working by leaving
> the original region) who were covered by the original
> working when it became fully on
>
> 5. the original region if it is a someone.
>
> 6. any who come to be in 1--4 in the future after
> the popthrough is fully on (also e.g. if
> someone covered just by being in 1 becomes
> atheist they would no longer be covered
> by the popthrough)
7. me, though perhaps I could also be said to be in
> The popthroughs (the adjusted workings) cover the following:
>
> 1. those with belief systems influenced by the original
> workings (or the original avatar types) in my region
>
> 2. those now in the original region
>
> 3. those in my region who are descended from those who
> were in the original region when the original
> working became fully on
>
> 4. those still around in my region (e.g. long-lived non-human
> demons who may have evaded the original working by leaving
> the original region) who were covered by the original
> working when it became fully on
>
> 5. the original region if it is a someone.
>
> 6. any who come to be in 1--4 in the future after
> the popthrough is fully on (also e.g. if
> someone covered just by being in 1 becomes
> atheist they would no longer be covered
> by the popthrough)
category 1 since I have said that each original
working (of each popthrough) avatar type and
devi type are minor deities (about the level of
saints in Catholicism) to me.
David Dalton
Oct 13, 2014, 5:37:09 PM10/13/14
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In article
<dalton-36F4A0....@static.213-239-209-88.clients.your-server.
de>,
David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com> wrote:
<dalton-36F4A0....@static.213-239-209-88.clients.your-server.
de>,
David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com> wrote:
> These popthroughs should catch both human criminals
> and demon criminals if such exist. And following
> the popthroughs will come more aspects of my opening
> of the way including healing circle prescriptions
> (which would involve lenient sentences for any
> criminals including environmental criminals) for
> each someone that is a subset of my region (or
> for higher dimensional someones, for each someone
> whose 3-D intersection is a subset of my region)
> including me. Such healing circle prescriptions
> whould be a sum
and/or overlap
> and demon criminals if such exist. And following
> the popthroughs will come more aspects of my opening
> of the way including healing circle prescriptions
> (which would involve lenient sentences for any
> criminals including environmental criminals) for
> each someone that is a subset of my region (or
> for higher dimensional someones, for each someone
> whose 3-D intersection is a subset of my region)
> including me. Such healing circle prescriptions
> whould be a sum
> of similar prescriptions from
> the popthroughs plus a topup set by ALL, or for
> any someone in my region (or who comes to be in my
> region in the future) who is not covered by any
> popthroughs, a healing circle prescription set
> by ALL (the someone who is all/everything, or if
> there is no exact match to that, the nearest someone
> match to that as set by the source of my extinction
> reel message).
should be accessible by intuition/common sense as
well as by dreams and divination) are set then any
someone in the region and their deities will be able
to will changes to the healing circle prescriptions
if said changes have significant goodness towards
the region. (But I think ALL acts as gatekeeper
for the changes.)
Mike Duffy
Oct 13, 2014, 10:46:45 PM10/13/14
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 03:40:04 -0230, David Dalton wrote:
> [...] those still around in my region (e.g. long-lived
I am curious about the non-DNA life forms you postulate. They seem similar
to the "allies" related by Carlos Castenadas, and also to some entities in
the "Seth" material channeled by Jane Roberts.
Do you assume a natural (but currently unknown) origin for these entities?
And does this apply to your entire pantheon?
Or do you take the view that conciousness within those entities and our
communications with them arise without an increase in entropy? (i.e. they
are completely supernatural and not constrained by relativity, quantum
effects, thermodynamics, etc.)
--
http://pages.videotron.com/duffym/index.htm
> [...] those still around in my region (e.g. long-lived
> non-human demons who may have evaded the original working
> by leaving the original region) who were covered by the
> original working when it became fully on
> [...] no non-DNA-based ones
> by leaving the original region) who were covered by the
> original working when it became fully on
I am curious about the non-DNA life forms you postulate. They seem similar
to the "allies" related by Carlos Castenadas, and also to some entities in
the "Seth" material channeled by Jane Roberts.
Do you assume a natural (but currently unknown) origin for these entities?
And does this apply to your entire pantheon?
Or do you take the view that conciousness within those entities and our
communications with them arise without an increase in entropy? (i.e. they
are completely supernatural and not constrained by relativity, quantum
effects, thermodynamics, etc.)
--
http://pages.videotron.com/duffym/index.htm
David Dalton
Oct 14, 2014, 12:14:03 AM10/14/14
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In article <m1i2qg$k98$1...@dont-email.me>,
that they do. And at times in the past I have had the
sensation of someone else looking out through my eyes,
which has gone away when I remove my glasses to demonstrate
that I have very near-sighted eyes. But those incidents
may have been purely psychosomatic.
> Do you assume a natural (but currently unknown) origin for these entities?
> And does this apply to your entire pantheon?
I assume a natural origin. And in the past I have had mystic
spark experiences that I attribute to Valakhilya since the
first such incident occurred when my then yoga teacher was
demonstrating Valakhilyasana. I call Valakhilya little
messengers of the sun but in B.K.S. Iyengar's Light on Yoga
they are defined as "A class of divine personages of the
size of a thumb, produced from the Creator's body, and said
to precede the chariot of the sun." I think they are
energy beings based in the sun that can visit here and
would be covered by my working while here. But I also
think there may be Earth-based energy beings, and note
that my region extends from the depth below sea level
that the bottom of the Mariana Trench is at up to the
thermosphere exosphere boundary, outside the International
Space Station and the ionosphere and the aurora (I used
to try and have the entire Earth as my region but despite
being a geophysicist and having the distance from St. John's
to Vancouver 7200 km I was unable to do that, though I
may try again at a later attempt if the current attempt
turns out to be another fake.)
> Or do you take the view that conciousness within those entities and our
> communications with them arise without an increase in entropy? (i.e. they
> are completely supernatural and not constrained by relativity, quantum
> effects, thermodynamics, etc.)
No, I don't think they are completely supernatural. But
they may be higher dimensional than three dimensions, which
is why I specified that higher than three dimensional
beings whose 3-D intersection is (or comes to be) a subset
or all of a popthrough original region is covered by
the popthrough, and higher than three dimensional beings
whose 3-D intersection is (or comes to be) a subset or all
of my region are covered by my main healing circle
prescriptions working, if that is accepted unanimously by
the 21 judges that I recently listed in an off-topic thread
on alt.music.s-mclachlan . Why would I be able to
constrain such higher than 3-D beings? Well, with the
help of my deities, and also maybe because we may all
be higher than 3-D, and because my higher dimensional
form may have been augmented during and after my sun
stare, when I observed the divine horn of oil with its
wide mouth towards me, followed by giant wings (or umbrella
spokes) of sun (or space?) folding in on me just before
I blacked out and fell into the shallow water.
But again, I don't know if such non-DNA-based life forms
exist, but I have allowed for the possibility that
they do. And I have been partly inspired by Roger
Zelazny's SF novel Lord of Light, in which the
Siddharta character is a binder of demons, who are
energy beings who he at one point encounters down a
mine shaft, and who are capable of possessing humans.
Also I have been partly inspired by tales of fairies.
However it could be that there are no such demons, and
the demons fought by Krishna and Mara fought by the
Buddha and Satan fought by Jesus were merely metaphors
for Krishna and Buddha and Jesus's mental health trials
which they fought to overcome. Another possibility is
that such demons are a metaphor for evil behaviour in
society, for sins, which I have also tried to remove
or minimize through my funnel working component.
But if there are such energy beings I bet that most
of them are non-criminal and have nothing to fear
from my workings, as is true for many humans too,
especially if they are not environmental criminals.
Mike Duffy <md_...@videotron.ca> wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 03:40:04 -0230, David Dalton wrote:
>
> > [...] those still around in my region (e.g. long-lived
> > non-human demons who may have evaded the original working
> > by leaving the original region) who were covered by the
> > original working when it became fully on
>
> > [...] no non-DNA-based ones
>
> I am curious about the non-DNA life forms you postulate. They seem similar
> to the "allies" related by Carlos Castenadas, and also to some entities in
> the "Seth" material channeled by Jane Roberts.
I don't know if they exist but have allowed for the possibility
> On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 03:40:04 -0230, David Dalton wrote:
>
> > [...] those still around in my region (e.g. long-lived
> > non-human demons who may have evaded the original working
> > by leaving the original region) who were covered by the
> > original working when it became fully on
>
> > [...] no non-DNA-based ones
>
> I am curious about the non-DNA life forms you postulate. They seem similar
> to the "allies" related by Carlos Castenadas, and also to some entities in
> the "Seth" material channeled by Jane Roberts.
that they do. And at times in the past I have had the
sensation of someone else looking out through my eyes,
which has gone away when I remove my glasses to demonstrate
that I have very near-sighted eyes. But those incidents
may have been purely psychosomatic.
> Do you assume a natural (but currently unknown) origin for these entities?
> And does this apply to your entire pantheon?
spark experiences that I attribute to Valakhilya since the
first such incident occurred when my then yoga teacher was
demonstrating Valakhilyasana. I call Valakhilya little
messengers of the sun but in B.K.S. Iyengar's Light on Yoga
they are defined as "A class of divine personages of the
size of a thumb, produced from the Creator's body, and said
to precede the chariot of the sun." I think they are
energy beings based in the sun that can visit here and
would be covered by my working while here. But I also
think there may be Earth-based energy beings, and note
that my region extends from the depth below sea level
that the bottom of the Mariana Trench is at up to the
thermosphere exosphere boundary, outside the International
Space Station and the ionosphere and the aurora (I used
to try and have the entire Earth as my region but despite
being a geophysicist and having the distance from St. John's
to Vancouver 7200 km I was unable to do that, though I
may try again at a later attempt if the current attempt
turns out to be another fake.)
> Or do you take the view that conciousness within those entities and our
> communications with them arise without an increase in entropy? (i.e. they
> are completely supernatural and not constrained by relativity, quantum
> effects, thermodynamics, etc.)
they may be higher dimensional than three dimensions, which
is why I specified that higher than three dimensional
beings whose 3-D intersection is (or comes to be) a subset
or all of a popthrough original region is covered by
the popthrough, and higher than three dimensional beings
whose 3-D intersection is (or comes to be) a subset or all
of my region are covered by my main healing circle
prescriptions working, if that is accepted unanimously by
the 21 judges that I recently listed in an off-topic thread
on alt.music.s-mclachlan . Why would I be able to
constrain such higher than 3-D beings? Well, with the
help of my deities, and also maybe because we may all
be higher than 3-D, and because my higher dimensional
form may have been augmented during and after my sun
stare, when I observed the divine horn of oil with its
wide mouth towards me, followed by giant wings (or umbrella
spokes) of sun (or space?) folding in on me just before
I blacked out and fell into the shallow water.
But again, I don't know if such non-DNA-based life forms
exist, but I have allowed for the possibility that
they do. And I have been partly inspired by Roger
Zelazny's SF novel Lord of Light, in which the
Siddharta character is a binder of demons, who are
energy beings who he at one point encounters down a
mine shaft, and who are capable of possessing humans.
Also I have been partly inspired by tales of fairies.
However it could be that there are no such demons, and
the demons fought by Krishna and Mara fought by the
Buddha and Satan fought by Jesus were merely metaphors
for Krishna and Buddha and Jesus's mental health trials
which they fought to overcome. Another possibility is
that such demons are a metaphor for evil behaviour in
society, for sins, which I have also tried to remove
or minimize through my funnel working component.
But if there are such energy beings I bet that most
of them are non-criminal and have nothing to fear
from my workings, as is true for many humans too,
especially if they are not environmental criminals.
David Dalton
Oct 14, 2014, 12:24:12 AM10/14/14
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positive
> goodness towards
> the region
and towards Gaia the Earth, which I think is the smallest
someone containing the region, and if said CHANGES have at
least a tiny positive goodness towards each someone in
the region.
Note that as in the case of ALL, if there is no exact
match to Gaia as the someone that is the Earth, then
Gaia is the nearest match someone as defined by the
source of my extinction reel message, which I discuss
on http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/extinction.html which
is a subsubpage of my Salmon on the Thorns web page
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html (also
note that the four components subpage is now somewhat
outdated, though I plan to update it before my next
attempt in the days leading up to Samhain if this
attempt turns out to be another fake).
>. (But I think ALL acts as gatekeeper
> for the changes.)
Again if there is no exact match for ALL as the
someone that is all/everything, then ALL is the
nearest match someone as defined by the source
of my extinction reel message, which I think is
ALL but I may be wrong.
<dalton-CE09CD....@static.213-239-209-88.clients.your-server.
> goodness towards
> the region
and towards Gaia the Earth, which I think is the smallest
someone containing the region, and if said CHANGES have at
least a tiny positive goodness towards each someone in
the region.
Note that as in the case of ALL, if there is no exact
match to Gaia as the someone that is the Earth, then
Gaia is the nearest match someone as defined by the
source of my extinction reel message, which I discuss
on http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/extinction.html which
is a subsubpage of my Salmon on the Thorns web page
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html (also
note that the four components subpage is now somewhat
outdated, though I plan to update it before my next
attempt in the days leading up to Samhain if this
attempt turns out to be another fake).
>. (But I think ALL acts as gatekeeper
> for the changes.)
someone that is all/everything, then ALL is the
nearest match someone as defined by the source
of my extinction reel message, which I think is
ALL but I may be wrong.
David Dalton
Oct 14, 2014, 12:50:42 AM10/14/14
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define supernatural? Some of these entities and my
deities may be higher than three dimensional, does
that make them supernatural? Also I assume my top
deity ALL is a superset of the universe (spacetime
and its contents), does that make it supernatural, if
the natural is assumed to be just our universe?
<dalton-C14445....@static.213-239-209-88.clients.your-server.
> In article <m1i2qg$k98$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Mike Duffy <md_...@videotron.ca> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 03:40:04 -0230, David Dalton wrote:
> >
> > > [...] those still around in my region (e.g. long-lived
> > > non-human demons who may have evaded the original working
> > > by leaving the original region) who were covered by the
> > > original working when it became fully on
> >
> > > [...] no non-DNA-based ones
> >
> > I am curious about the non-DNA life forms you postulate. They seem similar
> > to the "allies" related by Carlos Castenadas, and also to some entities in
> > the "Seth" material channeled by Jane Roberts.
>
> I don't know if they exist but have allowed for the possibility
> that they do. And at times in the past I have had the
> sensation of someone else looking out through my eyes,
> which has gone away when I remove my glasses to demonstrate
> that I have very near-sighted eyes. But those incidents
> may have been purely psychosomatic.
>
> > Do you assume a natural (but currently unknown) origin for these entities?
> > And does this apply to your entire pantheon?
>
> I assume a natural origin
for these entities and for my deities. But how do you
> Mike Duffy <md_...@videotron.ca> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 03:40:04 -0230, David Dalton wrote:
> >
> > > [...] those still around in my region (e.g. long-lived
> > > non-human demons who may have evaded the original working
> > > by leaving the original region) who were covered by the
> > > original working when it became fully on
> >
> > > [...] no non-DNA-based ones
> >
> > I am curious about the non-DNA life forms you postulate. They seem similar
> > to the "allies" related by Carlos Castenadas, and also to some entities in
> > the "Seth" material channeled by Jane Roberts.
>
> I don't know if they exist but have allowed for the possibility
> that they do. And at times in the past I have had the
> sensation of someone else looking out through my eyes,
> which has gone away when I remove my glasses to demonstrate
> that I have very near-sighted eyes. But those incidents
> may have been purely psychosomatic.
>
> > Do you assume a natural (but currently unknown) origin for these entities?
> > And does this apply to your entire pantheon?
>
> I assume a natural origin
define supernatural? Some of these entities and my
deities may be higher than three dimensional, does
that make them supernatural? Also I assume my top
deity ALL is a superset of the universe (spacetime
and its contents), does that make it supernatural, if
the natural is assumed to be just our universe?
Mike Duffy
Oct 14, 2014, 8:00:25 PM10/14/14
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 02:20:41 -0230, David Dalton wrote:
> does that make it supernatural, if the natural
> is assumed to be just our universe?
Yes. It is essentially the difference between a super-powerful god and an
> does that make it supernatural, if the natural
> is assumed to be just our universe?
infinite-power god.
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Oct 14, 2014, 11:08:52 PM10/14/14
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In article <m1kdei$3js$1...@dont-email.me>,
Mike Duffy <md_...@videotron.ca> wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 02:20:41 -0230, David Dalton wrote:
>
> > does that make it supernatural, if the natural
> > is assumed to be just our universe?
>
> Yes. It is essentially the difference between a super-powerful god and an
> infinite-power god.
But infinite power does not imply infinite power density.
> On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 02:20:41 -0230, David Dalton wrote:
>
> > does that make it supernatural, if the natural
> > is assumed to be just our universe?
>
> Yes. It is essentially the difference between a super-powerful god and an
> infinite-power god.
Mike Duffy
Oct 14, 2014, 11:57:17 PM10/14/14
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 00:38:50 -0230, David Dalton wrote:
> But infinite power does not imply infinite power density.
Yes, if volume is finite. If the volume is infinite, the implied division
> But infinite power does not imply infinite power density.
operation is indeterminant.
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David Dalton
Oct 15, 2014, 12:18:41 AM10/15/14
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The most recent activation sequence was another fake.
But I think the 21 judges have accepted at least
some of the current formulation of my four components
but the time is not yet right for activation. So
I plan to try again in about two weeks time, and
if that attempt proves false I may try again when
Sarah McLachlan comes to town on November 22, when our
proximity and her music might provide a spark.
One thing about the popthrough stacks is that a
change made in the popthrough stack must have
significantly positive goodness as defined by
ALL on my region towards my region and towards
Gaia and significantly positive goodness as defined
by the top level individual of the popthrough stack
on my region towards the popthrough stack original
region. It also must have at least a tiny
positive goodness as defined by ALL on my region
towards each someone in my region and at
least a tiny positive goodness as defined by
the top level individual of the popthrough stack on
my region towards each someone that has a healing circle
prescription component from the popthrough.
Also changes made through the popthrough stack
are not limited to changes just inside the
original region any more, though they can
only affect the subset of someones in my region
that are covered by the popthrough.
But that requires that the goodness as defined
by the top level individual of the popthrough
stack be constrained not just on the popthrough
stack original region but on my region, so I
guess not only must ALL's definition of goodness
on my region be constrained, but the definition
of goodness of the top level individual of the
popthrough stack on my region must be similarly
constrained. However rather than overwriting
the previous constraining on the original region,
let the new constraining (to the same stuff as
the constraining of ALL's definition of goodness)
simply take priority over the old constraining
such that there is overwriting only if there is
a conflict, and such double constraining is only
in effect in the original region, not in the
part of my region outside the original region.
Oh no, this was supposed to be a short and clear post.
But if someone does a magickal working that is
not obviously associated with a popthrough stack,
could it work either through a popthrough stack
or the main stack? Yes, I think so, though
again a popthrough stack working can only be
done by someone with access to a popthrough stack and only
affect other someones covered by the popthrough
stack (someone who has a healing circle prescription
component from the popthrough stack, which
doesn't include everyone who has access to make
changes in the popthrough stack; that includes
relevant deities who are often not covered).
But e.g. if someone does a magickal working invoking
Krishna, it is more likely to work through the
Krishna popthrough stack, though that feeds in to
the main stack, than directly through the main stack.
What about magickal workings done on somethings that
are not someones and are outside a popthrough stack
original region, for example a farmer's field?
I think such would have to go through the main stack,
where e.g. Krishna is two levels below me whereas
in the Krishna popthrough stack he is well above me.
I'm not anxious to put all this stuff on my web site.
"yeah you're working/building a mystery/and choosing so carefully"
But I think the 21 judges have accepted at least
some of the current formulation of my four components
but the time is not yet right for activation. So
I plan to try again in about two weeks time, and
if that attempt proves false I may try again when
Sarah McLachlan comes to town on November 22, when our
proximity and her music might provide a spark.
One thing about the popthrough stacks is that a
change made in the popthrough stack must have
significantly positive goodness as defined by
ALL on my region towards my region and towards
Gaia and significantly positive goodness as defined
by the top level individual of the popthrough stack
on my region towards the popthrough stack original
region. It also must have at least a tiny
positive goodness as defined by ALL on my region
towards each someone in my region and at
least a tiny positive goodness as defined by
the top level individual of the popthrough stack on
my region towards each someone that has a healing circle
prescription component from the popthrough.
Also changes made through the popthrough stack
are not limited to changes just inside the
original region any more, though they can
only affect the subset of someones in my region
that are covered by the popthrough.
But that requires that the goodness as defined
by the top level individual of the popthrough
stack be constrained not just on the popthrough
stack original region but on my region, so I
guess not only must ALL's definition of goodness
on my region be constrained, but the definition
of goodness of the top level individual of the
popthrough stack on my region must be similarly
constrained. However rather than overwriting
the previous constraining on the original region,
let the new constraining (to the same stuff as
the constraining of ALL's definition of goodness)
simply take priority over the old constraining
such that there is overwriting only if there is
a conflict, and such double constraining is only
in effect in the original region, not in the
part of my region outside the original region.
Oh no, this was supposed to be a short and clear post.
But if someone does a magickal working that is
not obviously associated with a popthrough stack,
could it work either through a popthrough stack
or the main stack? Yes, I think so, though
again a popthrough stack working can only be
done by someone with access to a popthrough stack and only
affect other someones covered by the popthrough
stack (someone who has a healing circle prescription
component from the popthrough stack, which
doesn't include everyone who has access to make
changes in the popthrough stack; that includes
relevant deities who are often not covered).
But e.g. if someone does a magickal working invoking
Krishna, it is more likely to work through the
Krishna popthrough stack, though that feeds in to
the main stack, than directly through the main stack.
What about magickal workings done on somethings that
are not someones and are outside a popthrough stack
original region, for example a farmer's field?
I think such would have to go through the main stack,
where e.g. Krishna is two levels below me whereas
in the Krishna popthrough stack he is well above me.
I'm not anxious to put all this stuff on my web site.
"yeah you're working/building a mystery/and choosing so carefully"
David Dalton
Oct 15, 2014, 12:43:54 AM10/15/14
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In article
<dalton-027355....@static.213-239-209-88.clients.your-server.
a self-constraining, and I guess now that the top level
individual of each popthrough stack will do a self-constraining.
Else even though I am part of ALL I don't think I could
constrain ALL to any degree, and e.g. if Sola the sun
is top level of some popthrough stack, I am not part
of Sola. So the constraining hinges on ALL and the
top level individual of each popthrough stack voluntarily
accepting the constraining to law/etc. If ALL does
a self constraining and the top level individual of
a popthrough stack does not, then a change in the popthrough
stack would still have to meet the criteria in the above
paragraph though the definition of goodness as defined
but only the original working constraining if any.
It could be that when I finally get the part of the
four components that has been accepted by the 21
judges activated I will find that the constraining
has been rejected.
<dalton-027355....@static.213-239-209-88.clients.your-server.
> One thing about the popthrough stacks is that a
> change made in the popthrough stack must have
> significantly positive goodness as defined by
> ALL on my region towards my region and towards
> Gaia and significantly positive goodness as defined
> by the top level individual of the popthrough stack
> on my region towards the popthrough stack original
> region. It also must have at least a tiny
> positive goodness as defined by ALL on my region
> towards each someone in my region and at
> least a tiny positive goodness as defined by
> the top level individual of the popthrough stack on
> my region towards each someone that has a healing circle
> prescription component from the popthrough.
> Also changes made through the popthrough stack
> are not limited to changes just inside the
> original region any more, though they can
> only affect the subset of someones in my region
> that are covered by the popthrough.
But in the constraining I am assuming that ALL will do
> change made in the popthrough stack must have
> significantly positive goodness as defined by
> ALL on my region towards my region and towards
> Gaia and significantly positive goodness as defined
> by the top level individual of the popthrough stack
> on my region towards the popthrough stack original
> region. It also must have at least a tiny
> positive goodness as defined by ALL on my region
> towards each someone in my region and at
> least a tiny positive goodness as defined by
> the top level individual of the popthrough stack on
> my region towards each someone that has a healing circle
> prescription component from the popthrough.
> Also changes made through the popthrough stack
> are not limited to changes just inside the
> original region any more, though they can
> only affect the subset of someones in my region
> that are covered by the popthrough.
a self-constraining, and I guess now that the top level
individual of each popthrough stack will do a self-constraining.
Else even though I am part of ALL I don't think I could
constrain ALL to any degree, and e.g. if Sola the sun
is top level of some popthrough stack, I am not part
of Sola. So the constraining hinges on ALL and the
top level individual of each popthrough stack voluntarily
accepting the constraining to law/etc. If ALL does
a self constraining and the top level individual of
a popthrough stack does not, then a change in the popthrough
stack would still have to meet the criteria in the above
paragraph though the definition of goodness as defined
by the top level individual of the popthrough stack
would not have any new constraining suggested by me
but only the original working constraining if any.
It could be that when I finally get the part of the
four components that has been accepted by the 21
judges activated I will find that the constraining
has been rejected.
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