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5110 Dead, 243 since 1/20/09

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Aug 19, 2009, 10:11:43 AM8/19/09
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/aug/18/general-motors-production-
jobs


GM to boost production and bring back more than 1,000 jobs

• US 'cash for clunkers' programme helped spur sales
• Carmaker plans to add shifts to various plants


Higher sales, in part from the US government's "cash for clunkers"
programme, are spurring General Motors Company to boost production at
several of its factories.

The automaker said today it will add 60,000 vehicles to its production in
the third quarter and mainly the fourth quarter. It will also bring back
about 1,350 laid-off workers in the US and Canada.

GM will add a shift to its CAMI factory in Ingersoll, Ontario, where the
new Chevrolet Equinox and GMC Terrain midsize crossover vehicles are
made. The company's Lordstown, Ohio, assembly plant, where the Chevrolet
Cobalt and Pontiac G5 are made, also will see additional shifts.

The Lordstown plant is now running at one shift for 10 hours per day from
Monday through Thursday, but the company will add the next two Fridays to
the schedule, said plant spokesman Tom Mock.

GM's plant in Orion township, Michigan, which makes the Chevrolet Malibu
and Pontiac G6 midsize sedans, also will see a production increase.

Production also may be boosted at other factories, including those that
make the Chevrolet HHR small wagon, the Chevrolet Colorado and GMC Canyon
midsize pickups, the Chevrolet Camaro muscle car, Buick LaCrosse sedan
and the Cadillac SRX and CTS Wagon, GM said.

The Cobalt and Malibu have been popular with people trading in older less-
efficient models under the clunkers programme, which offers up to $4,500
(£2,700) to people to scrap vehicles with gas mileage of 18 mpg or less.

At the end of July, GM had 70 days worth of Cobalts on dealer lots,
according to Ward's AutoInfoBank. A 60-day supply is ideal to maintain a
good selection for buyers without overstocking dealers.

But since the clunkers programme began in late July, dealers have
reported spot shortages of both vehicles.

At Randy Wise Buick-Pontiac-Chevrolet in Milan, Michigan, south-west of
Detroit, there were 22 Cobalts and 26 Malibus on the lot before the
clunkers rebates started, said Mark Jarrait, general sales manager. The
dealership now has two Cobalts and four Malibus, and Jarrait has ordered
more.

"All of the sudden they disappeared," he said.

The Cobalt, GM's highest-mileage car at up to 37 mpg on the highway, once
was among the top 10 vehicles on the "cash for clunkers" purchase list.
Dealers say shortages have bumped it from the top 10 list.


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lab~rat >:-)

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Aug 19, 2009, 10:47:47 AM8/19/09
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On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:11:43 -0500, "5110 Dead, 243 since 1/20/09"
<de...@dead.com> puked:

>
>
>
>http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/aug/18/general-motors-production-
>jobs
>
>
>GM to boost production and bring back more than 1,000 jobs
>

>ÔøΩ US 'cash for clunkers' programme helped spur sales
>ÔøΩ Carmaker plans to add shifts to various plants


>
>
>Higher sales, in part from the US government's "cash for clunkers"
>programme, are spurring General Motors Company to boost production at
>several of its factories.
>
>The automaker said today it will add 60,000 vehicles to its production in
>the third quarter and mainly the fourth quarter. It will also bring back
>about 1,350 laid-off workers in the US and Canada.
>
>GM will add a shift to its CAMI factory in Ingersoll, Ontario, where the
>new Chevrolet Equinox and GMC Terrain midsize crossover vehicles are
>made. The company's Lordstown, Ohio, assembly plant, where the Chevrolet
>Cobalt and Pontiac G5 are made, also will see additional shifts.
>
>The Lordstown plant is now running at one shift for 10 hours per day from
>Monday through Thursday, but the company will add the next two Fridays to
>the schedule, said plant spokesman Tom Mock.
>
>GM's plant in Orion township, Michigan, which makes the Chevrolet Malibu
>and Pontiac G6 midsize sedans, also will see a production increase.
>
>Production also may be boosted at other factories, including those that
>make the Chevrolet HHR small wagon, the Chevrolet Colorado and GMC Canyon
>midsize pickups, the Chevrolet Camaro muscle car, Buick LaCrosse sedan
>and the Cadillac SRX and CTS Wagon, GM said.
>
>The Cobalt and Malibu have been popular with people trading in older less-
>efficient models under the clunkers programme, which offers up to $4,500

>(ÔøΩ2,700) to people to scrap vehicles with gas mileage of 18 mpg or less.


>
>At the end of July, GM had 70 days worth of Cobalts on dealer lots,
>according to Ward's AutoInfoBank. A 60-day supply is ideal to maintain a
>good selection for buyers without overstocking dealers.
>
>But since the clunkers programme began in late July, dealers have
>reported spot shortages of both vehicles.
>
>At Randy Wise Buick-Pontiac-Chevrolet in Milan, Michigan, south-west of
>Detroit, there were 22 Cobalts and 26 Malibus on the lot before the
>clunkers rebates started, said Mark Jarrait, general sales manager. The
>dealership now has two Cobalts and four Malibus, and Jarrait has ordered
>more.
>
>"All of the sudden they disappeared," he said.
>
>The Cobalt, GM's highest-mileage car at up to 37 mpg on the highway, once
>was among the top 10 vehicles on the "cash for clunkers" purchase list.
>Dealers say shortages have bumped it from the top 10 list.

Considering well over 2 million jobs were lost since Obama took office
and even more since he started his campaign against the American
economy in September, I'd say were off to a roaring recovery with
those thousand jobs.
--
lab~rat >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

Phlip

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Aug 19, 2009, 12:45:18 PM8/19/09
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> But since the clunkers programme began in late July, dealers have
> reported spot shortages of both vehicles.

You mean ... losing money on the clunkers program was really a way to
stimulate the American economy, by stimulating the remnants of GM to
start producing electric cars??

Why oh why didn't anyone think of that during our last 100 years of
dependence on foreign oil?

Oh, yeah, that was also the 100 years since the Bushies started
operations, as Standard Oil's "fixers"...

(But Bush but Bush but Bush;)

And socialism - buying GM up and ordering them what to produce - sure
sucks, huh? Will cash-for-clunkers still be around when their electric
cars start rolling off American assembly lines?

5110 Dead, 243 since 1/20/09

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Aug 19, 2009, 12:50:03 PM8/19/09
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The right wingers are in an absolute snit over cash for clunkers. Not
because it failed, but because it succeeded.

--
Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to

lab~rat >:-)

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Aug 19, 2009, 1:36:16 PM8/19/09
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On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:50:03 -0500, "5110 Dead, 243 since 1/20/09"
<ze...@finestplanet.com> puked:

It produced 1350 jobs! We could have handed those people 2.2 million
plus with the 3 billion we pissed away. Oh, and a portion of those
jobs are Canadian.

WOOOHOOO!

5110 Dead, 243 since 1/20/09

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Aug 19, 2009, 3:05:24 PM8/19/09
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On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:36:16 -0400, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net>
wrote:

Good. Canada is in better shape finanacially because they didn't
allow a bunch of fucking cowboys to run the banks into the ground. But
more employment is always good.

It also produced quite a few cars, cleaner air, and save gas.

And will continue to do so.

lab~rat >:-)

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Aug 19, 2009, 3:31:44 PM8/19/09
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On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:05:24 -0700, "5110 Dead, 243 since 1/20/09"
<ze...@finestplanet.com> puked:

And I'm glad that this wreckless gang of drunk spenders stole money
from my paycheck to finance these 1350 jobs. And it's hilarious how
they're fucking over the dealerships and not giving them the rebates.
It'll be even better when the government owned banks retroactively add
the 4500 bucks into the new car owner's loan payments.

liberal

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Aug 19, 2009, 3:41:51 PM8/19/09
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Ahhhh, but Warren Buffett is making any GM pricing irrelevant. See
Fortune April 27,2009.

liberal

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Aug 19, 2009, 4:03:17 PM8/19/09
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Well, gee....if you're so upset, move to a country that doesn't even
have an income tax....like Somalia.

Of course, not having an income tax, social programs, central
government, etc, does tend to create a looneytunarian utopia...if you
like that sort of country.

Bet you don't have the balls to take advantage of the economic
opportunity the country offers.

Phlip

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Aug 19, 2009, 5:19:49 PM8/19/09
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On Aug 19, 7:47 am, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote:

> >The Cobalt, GM's highest-mileage car at up to 37 mpg on the highway, once
> >was among the top 10 vehicles on the "cash for clunkers" purchase list.
> >Dealers say shortages have bumped it from the top 10 list.

Well, put GM back together and start cranking them out!

(BTW, when Reagan took office, 37 mpg was also at the high end of fuel
efficiency. The more things change...)

> Considering well over 2 million jobs were lost since Obama took office

Can you say "ramp rate"? Sure you can!

nobody

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Aug 20, 2009, 6:45:12 AM8/20/09
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On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:50:03 -0500, "5110 Dead, 243 since 1/20/09"
<ze...@finestplanet.com> wrote:

Is that why dealers are pulling out of the program when they don't get
reimbursed?

Phlip

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Aug 20, 2009, 6:52:55 AM8/20/09
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On Aug 20, 3:45 am, nobody <nob...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:50:03 -0500, "5110 Dead, 243 since 1/20/09"

> >The right wingers are in an absolute snit over cash for clunkers.  Not


> >because it failed, but because it succeeded.  
>
> Is that why dealers are pulling out of the program when they don't get
> reimbursed?

I heard Ahnold Schwarzenegger was paying them off with Kellyfornia
IOUs.

Phlip

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Aug 20, 2009, 6:56:34 AM8/20/09
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On Aug 19, 12:31 pm, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote:

> >It also produced quite a few cars, cleaner air, and save gas.
>
> >And will continue to do so.
>
> And I'm glad that this wreckless gang of drunk spenders stole money
> from my paycheck to finance these 1350 jobs.

A> wreckless? is that like GM, never having a wreck, until CEO Obama
took over?

B> you don't mind GOP taking your money (such as by reducing services)
in exchange for some fictitious long-term benefit (such as
Reaganomics' reckless Trickle Down Theory), right? But breaking our
dependence on Saudi oil, that's not worth a few cents per paycheck,
right?

lab~rat >:-)

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Aug 20, 2009, 8:23:44 AM8/20/09
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On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:03:17 -0700 (PDT), liberal
<liber...@gmail.com> puked:

>On Aug 19, 3:31ÔøΩpm, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:05:24 -0700, "5110 Dead, 243 since 1/20/09"
>> <ze...@finestplanet.com> puked:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

>> >On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:36:16 -0400, "lab~rat ÔøΩ>:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net>


>> >wrote:
>>
>> >>On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:50:03 -0500, "5110 Dead, 243 since 1/20/09"
>> >><ze...@finestplanet.com> puked:
>>
>> >>>On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:45:18 -0700, Phlip wrote:
>>
>> >>>>> But since the clunkers programme began in late July, dealers have
>> >>>>> reported spot shortages of both vehicles.
>>
>> >>>> You mean ... losing money on the clunkers program was really a way to
>> >>>> stimulate the American economy, by stimulating the remnants of GM to
>> >>>> start producing electric cars??
>>
>> >>>> Why oh why didn't anyone think of that during our last 100 years of
>> >>>> dependence on foreign oil?
>>
>> >>>> Oh, yeah, that was also the 100 years since the Bushies started
>> >>>> operations, as Standard Oil's "fixers"...
>>
>> >>>> (But Bush but Bush but Bush;)
>>
>> >>>> And socialism - buying GM up and ordering them what to produce - sure
>> >>>> sucks, huh? Will cash-for-clunkers still be around when their electric
>> >>>> cars start rolling off American assembly lines?
>>

>> >>>The right wingers are in an absolute snit over cash for clunkers. ÔøΩNot
>> >>>because it failed, but because it succeeded. ÔøΩ
>>
>> >>It produced 1350 jobs! ÔøΩWe could have handed those people 2.2 million
>> >>plus with the 3 billion we pissed away. ÔøΩOh, and a portion of those
>> >>jobs are Canadian.
>>
>> >>WOOOHOOO!
>>
>> >Good. ÔøΩCanada is in better shape finanacially because they didn't


>> >allow a bunch of fucking cowboys to run the banks into the ground. But
>> >more employment is always good.
>>
>> >It also produced quite a few cars, cleaner air, and save gas.
>>
>> >And will continue to do so.
>>
>> And I'm glad that this wreckless gang of drunk spenders stole money

>> from my paycheck to finance these 1350 jobs. ÔøΩAnd it's hilarious how


>> they're fucking over the dealerships and not giving them the rebates.
>> It'll be even better when the government owned banks retroactively add
>> the 4500 bucks into the new car owner's loan payments.
>> --

>> lab~rat ÔøΩ>:-)


>> Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
>
>Well, gee....if you're so upset, move to a country that doesn't even
>have an income tax....like Somalia.
>
>Of course, not having an income tax, social programs, central
>government, etc, does tend to create a looneytunarian utopia...if you
>like that sort of country.
>
>Bet you don't have the balls to take advantage of the economic
>opportunity the country offers.

It's not that I oppose an income tax, I just oppose MORE income tax.
And I don't approve of taking my money and randomly flinging it in the
air to see if it helps the economy like this administration is doing.

lab~rat >:-)

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Aug 20, 2009, 8:25:13 AM8/20/09
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On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 03:56:34 -0700 (PDT), Phlip <phli...@gmail.com>
puked:

>On Aug 19, 12:31ÔøΩpm, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote:
>
>> >It also produced quite a few cars, cleaner air, and save gas.
>>
>> >And will continue to do so.
>>
>> And I'm glad that this wreckless gang of drunk spenders stole money
>> from my paycheck to finance these 1350 jobs.
>
>A> wreckless? is that like GM, never having a wreck, until CEO Obama
>took over?

Obama had no business taking it over. Or bailing it out, for that
matter.

>B> you don't mind GOP taking your money (such as by reducing services)
>in exchange for some fictitious long-term benefit (such as
>Reaganomics' reckless Trickle Down Theory), right? But breaking our
>dependence on Saudi oil, that's not worth a few cents per paycheck,
>right?

Both left and right stole my money and spent it irresponsibly. Left
is doing it now, and in greater stacks that the right did, so that's
why I'm complaining about them.

5110 Dead, 243 since 1/20/09

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Aug 20, 2009, 10:02:48 AM8/20/09
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In the New York area, reimbursements are slow to arrive, ironically
because of the program's success.

lab~rat >:-)

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Aug 20, 2009, 10:27:23 AM8/20/09
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On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:02:48 -0500, "5110 Dead, 243 since 1/20/09"
<de...@dead.com> puked:

>On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 03:52:55 -0700, Phlip wrote:
>

>> On Aug 20, 3:45ÔøΩam, nobody <nob...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:50:03 -0500, "5110 Dead, 243 since 1/20/09"
>>

>>> >The right wingers are in an absolute snit over cash for clunkers. ÔøΩNot


>>> >because it failed, but because it succeeded.
>>>
>>> Is that why dealers are pulling out of the program when they don't get
>>> reimbursed?
>>
>> I heard Ahnold Schwarzenegger was paying them off with Kellyfornia IOUs.
>
>In the New York area, reimbursements are slow to arrive, ironically
>because of the program's success.

Ironically, because the government isn't equipped to efficiently do
shit.

nobody

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Aug 21, 2009, 6:17:54 AM8/21/09
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On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:02:48 -0500, "5110 Dead, 243 since 1/20/09"
<de...@dead.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 03:52:55 -0700, Phlip wrote:
>
>> On Aug 20, 3:45�am, nobody <nob...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:50:03 -0500, "5110 Dead, 243 since 1/20/09"
>>
>>> >The right wingers are in an absolute snit over cash for clunkers. �Not
>>> >because it failed, but because it succeeded.
>>>
>>> Is that why dealers are pulling out of the program when they don't get
>>> reimbursed?
>>
>> I heard Ahnold Schwarzenegger was paying them off with Kellyfornia IOUs.
>
>In the New York area, reimbursements are slow to arrive, ironically
>because of the program's success.

Cite?

lab~rat >:-)

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On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:17:54 -0400, nobody <nob...@nowhere.com> puked:

>On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:02:48 -0500, "5110 Dead, 243 since 1/20/09"
><de...@dead.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 03:52:55 -0700, Phlip wrote:
>>

>>> On Aug 20, 3:45ÔøΩam, nobody <nob...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:50:03 -0500, "5110 Dead, 243 since 1/20/09"
>>>

>>>> >The right wingers are in an absolute snit over cash for clunkers. ÔøΩNot


>>>> >because it failed, but because it succeeded.
>>>>
>>>> Is that why dealers are pulling out of the program when they don't get
>>>> reimbursed?
>>>
>>> I heard Ahnold Schwarzenegger was paying them off with Kellyfornia IOUs.
>>
>>In the New York area, reimbursements are slow to arrive, ironically
>>because of the program's success.
>
>Cite?

I saw the secretary of transportation on tv speaking with that
nervous, jittery condescending tone that Robert Gibbs uses when he's
backed into a corner having to defend the indefensible this morning.
He was telling CNN that THA MONEY'S THERE, THEY'RE GONNA GET THEIR
MONEY!!!

Clearly these jerks have no idea how business runs. Sure, the money
is a receivable, but the dealerships have expenses and need the money.
If this asshole ever ran a business, he'd understand the present value
of money and would be ashamed of himself for barking out like that.

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