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Aug 20, 2009 12:37 | Updated Aug 20, 2009 13:45
The lost Palestinian Jews
By DAVID SHAMAH , Jerusalem Post


"We are of the same race and blood, and cooperation will bring great
prosperity to the land," wrote Emir Faisal to Felix Frankfurter in
1917. Faisal was known for his affinity to the Zionists who had begun
streaming to the Holy Land; in 1919, he signed a cooperation agreement
with Chaim Weizmann, to whom he wrote that he was "mindful of the
racial kinship and ancient bonds existing between the Arabs and the
Jewish people."

But Faisal's proclamations of kinship with the Jews were more than lip
service to a commonly held belief, says Tsvi Misinai, who knows
perhaps more about the origins of the modern Palestinians than anyone.

"Faisal's paternal line was Hashemite," he says, "meaning he was
directly descended from Muhammad. But the mother of his maternal
grandfather, King On, was descended from a family of forced Jewish
converts to Islam that immigrated to the east bank of the Jordan,
later returning to one of the villages west of the Jordan. Unlike
today, when Faisal was growing up, his grandfather's mother's Jewish
origin was known, and they made no great effort to hide it. And what
was known to Faisal is known to many Palestinians today as well."

This is a story of what may be one of the best-kept secrets in history
- one that could, in time, heal the terrible rift that has torn the
Land of Israel asunder. After years of research, Misinai says that he
can declare with certainty that nearly 90 percent of all Palestinians
are descended from the Jews. "And what's more, about half of them know
it," he says.

Not only that, many Palestinians retain Jewish customs, including
mourning rituals, lighting Shabbat or memorial candles and even
wearing tefillin. While the common wisdom among many Israelis is that
the group that calls itself "Palestinian" is a motley collection of
Arabs from various parts of the Middle East who immigrated to the Land
of Israel following the employment opportunities provided by Jews,
Misinai says that the vast majority of today's Palestinians are
descended from the remnants of Jewish families who managed to avoid
being deported over the past 2,000 years, or returned to their lands
after they were exiled, as the Jews in the Holy Land suffered blow
after blow - from the Roman destruction of the Temple to the Crusades
to famine, poverty and war throughout the Middle Ages.

One thing many were unable to avoid, however, was converting to Islam
- a forced conversion that never really "took," done more out of fear
than conviction. Misinai has made it his mission to spread the word
among Palestinians, giving them the opportunity to retrieve their lost
heritage. And not just introduce them to their roots; according to
Misinai, the reintegration of what he calls the "descendants of
Israel" with the Jewish people is the best - perhaps the only - way to
solve the seemingly endless Middle East crisis.

Despite what some may be thinking, Misinai is not a nut. In fact, he
is a hi-tech entrepreneur, perhaps the first in Israel's history.
While the kids from ICQ and Google were still in diapers, in the early
1980s Misinai was building Sapiens into a world-class application
developer, focusing on the insurance industry. All those rule-based,
object-oriented applications we use every day; it was Misinai who
invented the concept, and the product, winning the Rothschild Award
for industrial development in the field of software in 1992.

Several years afterward, he retired from the hi-tech business to
return to his first love - researching the history of the Land of
Israel. "I became interested in this area because of my father, who
was a great collector of artifacts about the Land of Israel," he says,
a hobby he has continued. But besides objects, Misinai collected
stories - legends and folklore from the mouths of mukhtars, village
elders throughout the land, attesting to the truth of his assertions.

"There are large clans throughout the country, in the Hebron Hills, in
Samaria and among the Negev Beduin, who know of their heritage and
even have family trees that document their roots. Not only that; many
of them have specifically Jewish customs, and their neighbors would
call them 'the Jews,' even though they were technically as Muslim as
anyone else."

Close to nine out of 10 Palestinians in the Land of Israel - Israel
proper, Judea, Samaria and Gaza - have Jewish roots. In fact, he says,
the percentage in Gaza is somewhat higher than 90 percent.

Misinai is far from the first researcher to have stumbled upon this
historical find. The first president of Israel, Yitzhak Ben-Zvi, and
the first prime minister, David Ben-Gurion, wrote several books and
articles on the subject. In fact, Ben-Gurion believed so strongly in
the idea that in 1956 he set up a task force headed by Moshe Dayan and
Haim Levkov (the Palmah's "point man" among the Arabs of Israel, he
worked with Yigal Allon to set up the Trackers' Unit, traditionally
the domain of Negev Beduin), that was supposed to develop ways to
"Judaize" the Beduin, teaching them something about modern Jewish life
and tradition to integrate them with the Israeli people, ethnically if
not religiously.

The Beduin were willing enough, but the teachers who were supposed to
live and work with them dropped out of the program because of the
rough living conditions. In the end, Dayan convinced Ben-Gurion that
the idea would upset "the Islamic world," and the program was dropped.

That's an important point, Misinai says. "I don't necessarily believe
most, or even some, of the Palestinians would want to convert to
Judaism, at least right now. Reintegrating them with the Jewish people
does not necessarily require them to convert, and I imagine many of
the rabbis would be reluctant to go ahead with such a program."

Plus, he says, many Israelis of all stripes would be suspicious that
the Palestinians were embracing their "Jewish identities" as a way of
getting Israeli ID cards - to get National Insurance money, if not to
carry out terror attacks.

IN HIS book, Brother Shall Not Lift Sword Against Brother, which
discusses what he calls "the Engagement," Misinai foresees a gradual
process of education and integration that could take 40 to 50 years,
with immigration and natural growth among the Jews keeping the
demographic balance in check. "It sounds like a long time, but we
often forget that it's been 40 years since the Six Day War and the
only 'progress' that we've made has been the Oslo process, which has
turned out to be a tragedy for Israel and the Palestinians," Misinai
says.

Besides, he says, many of the Palestinians might not have to convert
anyway.

"Many of the families in question know they are of Jewish origin, and
they marry among themselves. Halachically there may be some questions,
but I have consulted with rabbis who say they are resolvable. It would
certainly be in line with historic Judaism, which in the past - during
the Temple periods, for example - had more lax standards for accepting
returnees. For example, Jews who were idol worshipers during the First
and Second Temple periods were not forced to convert back in order to
be considered part of the people of Israel."

Besides, he says, with most of the available spouses living in the
land coming from Jewish backgrounds themselves, the opportunity to
intermarry with someone of non-Jewish ancestry was low - far lower
than the chances for such a marriage to take place in modern-day
America or Russia, he says. "Several Palestinians have gone through
formal conversion, but I know of a number who have taken on Jewish
practices - and who say they don't need to convert because they know
they're already Jews."

And the evidence for the Jewish ancestry of the Palestinians is
persuasive - very persuasive, when all the information is taken into
account. First, there are the names - not just place names, but family
names. "Many villages here have names that are not Arabic, and very
rarely appear in other Arab lands. Among such names are Kafr Yasif,
Kafr Kana, Kafr Yatta, Kafr Manda, Kafr Samia, and many others," says
Misinai. Indeed, Ben-Zvi in his 1932 book The Peoples of Our Land
wrote that west of the Jordan River, 277 villages and sites - nearly
two-thirds! - had names that were similar to or the same as the Jewish
settlements on the same sites during Second Temple times.

That in itself, said Ben-Zvi in his book, is proof that the
inhabitants of those villages were Jews who had remained after the
destruction. "If in fact the Jewish settlements became inhabited by
entirely different people, they would not have preserved the Hebrew
names (which in fact, did occur in most of those settlements where the
population did change, such as in the eastern part of the Jordan).
Such is not the case in western land of Israel where the old Hebrew
names are preserved, which proves the continuity of settlement in this
place," he wrote.

It's not just place names; many Palestinians have Hebrew-derived
family names as well, reflecting their origins, says Misinai. Already
in the 1860s, "Colonel Condor of the Institute for Israel Research
found biblical names among Palestinian fellahin [peasants]. Many of
these names have no root in the Arabic lexicon. Large, distinguished
families from various parts of the country carry Hebrew names or
Jewish family names."

Among the surnames of some of the larger clans are the Abu Khatsiras,
who control much of the fishing in Gaza; Elbaz, a family of Jews who
immigrated from Morocco; Abulafia, the family with the famous Jaffa
bakery which is descended from the 13th-century Spanish kabbalist
Rabbi Abraham Abulafia; the Almogs of Jenin; the Dawouda (Davids) of
Hebron; and even, believe it or not, 4,000 forced converts to Islam
named Cohen living in Jordan.

Not only that: The Palestinian dialect of Arabic contains many terms
and words not found in "standard" Arabic - the result of the
integration of Hebrew and Aramaic into the Arabic they were forced to
learn after the various Arab and Turkish conquests.

Israel Belkind, one of the organizers of the Bilu movement, who
researched the roots of the Palestinians during the 1890s, wrote that
"it was already proven by Major Condor, in his research on the land of
Israel, that the 'Arabs' of the Land of Israel had spoken Aramaic in
the days of the Crusades, the language spoken by the Jews until the
Arab conquest - meaning that these Aramaic-speaking 'Arabs' were
actually Jews themselves."

In fact, Misinai says, Aramaic was still the lingua franca among some
villagers not too long ago. "In 1974, the settlers who established the
modern Ofra were astounded to find that the residents of the village
on the ancient biblical site of Ofra - called Tybiba - were Christians
who spoke Aramaic."

While many gentiles converted to Christianity in the religion's early
days, they would most likely be Greek speakers; any group that spoke
Aramaic is far more likely to have Jewish roots.

Many Jewish customs have survived among the Palestinians as well,
Misinai says. "In Islam, parents are required to have their sons
circumcised by the age of 13. While in many Islamic countries the
custom is to wait several years, among Palestinians many perform the
ritual a week after their son is born - meaning on the eighth day," he
says.

Other customs include sitting seven days for deceased loved ones
instead of just three (a custom, Misinai says, that has fallen by the
wayside since the first intifada), lighting memorial candles for the
dead (a custom found nowhere in the Muslim world), lighting Shabbat
candles and practicing levirate marriage - the practice of having a
brother marry his deceased sibling's wife under certain
circumstances. That's a widespread practice among the Beduin, says
Misinai, and in fact "much of the legal code of the Beduin is
remarkably similar to many laws in the Torah and the Mishna." In
addition, several Palestinian families own ancient hanukkiot, which
they used in mid-winter - around Hanukka.

YEHUDA BOORLA described in his book Be'ein Kochav (about his service
as an officer in the Turkish army during World War I) interesting
information about an Arab attendant from the Land of Israel who
accompanied him. One section of the book describes a "moment of
discovery" on the part of the attendant. Upon hearing the author speak
about the Islamic custom of cutting off the breasts of Jewish women,
the Arab attendant realized that his mother, who suffered from the
same deformity, was in reality Jewish.

Until today, elderly Palestinians in Jordan who moved there from west
of the river tell of this tradition, says Misinai. "They say that this
was done in cases where Muslim men married Jewish women, so that the
Jewish women would not be able to breast-feed and their children would
not take in the milk of their Jewish mothers. Thus the children would
not be thought to be Jewish."

One of the most curious of the Jewish customs that were once
widespread among the Palestinians was the putting on of tefillin -
usually done by someone who was ill, especially by those suffering
from headaches. The rare tefillin were wrapped in cloth (to preserve
them, says Misinai). When a sick person needed "treatment," they would
place the tefillin box (which houses the scroll) on the middle of the
ill person's forehead and wrap the connected fabric straps around his
head. With the use of a key, an assistant would tighten the strap,
thereby creating pressure around the head. The heightened pressure
increased the headache pain - so when the tefillin was removed, it
seemed as if the victim's original pain had decreased, if not
disappeared completely. "Other than among a few people, the true
meaning of the tefillin was lost," says Misinai.

Food, too, is high on the agenda of these lost Jews. Many Beduin
refrain from eating camel and other nonkosher animals, and around
Pessah time, many Palestinians find themselves with a yen for matza.
"In the region around Bethlehem, there is a high demand for matza
during Pessah. When trucks delivering matza pass through, the
customers crowd the trucks, taking the boxes right off the trucks even
before unloading and bringing them into the store."

The same story repeats itself in Nazareth and Shfaram, where residents
make special trips to Upper Nazareth to buy matza. "Possibly they do
this because they like matza, but given the other testimonies about
these people, it's more logical to say that, at least in origin, the
demand for matza during the start of the spring has more to do with
religious custom than a recurring heightened seasonal desire for dry
crackers," says Misinai.

And while all the anecdotal evidence cited could be the result of
historical confusion or some other factor, the one thing that cannot
be falsified is the genetic record - which overwhelmingly proves the
closeness of traditional Jews and Palestinians, says Misinai. "In
2001, Human Immunology magazine published a genetic study conducted by
Prof. Antonio Arnez-Vilna, a Spanish researcher from the University of
Complutense in Madrid, who discovered that the immune systems of the
Jews and the Palestinians are extremely close to one another in a way
that almost absolutely demonstrates a similar genetic identity.
Following the publication of the article, the magazine instructed
readers to destroy it due to the fact that the author had inserted
political opinions into the article," Misinai says, adding that no
allegations of falsified data were ever made.

OTHER STUDIES, including a 2002 test by Tel Aviv University
researchers, determined that only two groups in the world - Ashkenazi
Jews and Palestinians - were genetically susceptible to an inherited
deafness syndrome. All the studies he cites in his book, says Misinai,
show that "the Palestinians are genetically much closer to Ashkenazi
Jews than they are to the Arabs."

The findings, by the way, also should dispel once and for all the
canard that Ashkenazi Jews are descended from the Central Asian
Khazars, and not from the population of the Land of Israel.

If "secret Judaism" is as widespread among Palestinians as Misinai
says, why are so many so opposed to Jewish settlement here? Because
the issue has been "hijacked" by groups - the leadership of the Arab
world, and Palestinians who have forgotten their Jewish roots. For
this reason, most of the youth are not told about their origins until
later on - when they have learned the art of obfuscation, balancing
multiple identities to ensure their survival.

It should be noted not all Palestinians hate Israel, Misinai points
out; in 1982, for example, the leaders of Bidya in Samaria offered to
enlist in the IDF in the First Lebanon War to fight the PLO. "The
Jewish origin of many of Bidya's clans is a well-known fact, even
today," says Misinai.

But still, there's no denying that many Palestinians would like to see
the Jews just disappear. And there are several reasons for that, says
Misinai, the "loss of memory" among many Palestinians who now see the
Jews as a "competitive other," and fear of radicals and terrorists
among those who would otherwise feel affinity for Jews - as they
undertake terrorist acts to throw off suspicion that they are
"collaborators."

In his book, Misinai painstakingly describes the origins of the
Palestinians, who he says are made up chiefly of two groups: Jews who
lived in the mountain regions of Judea and Samaria, who were able to
maintain their Jewish identities for hundreds of years before being
forced to make a choice between exile and conversion to Islam; and
members of the ancient nations of Edom and Moab, who were converted to
Judaism en masse at least twice.

The two groups, whom Misinai calls respectively the "descendants of
Israel" and the "brethren of Israel," are the chief components of what
we today call the Palestinians, with the addition of a smattering of
Arabs (barely a few percent), Samaritans (who maintain their own
distinct religious identity), descendants of the soldiers who served
in the occupying Roman army after the destruction of the Second Temple
and even some survivors of the ancient Canaanite and Philistine
nations - "idol worshipers who can be found in Gaza and in the village
of Jisr a-Zarka, near Haifa," says Misinai.

The collective memory of the mountain people was better than that of
the "brethren of Israel," who eventually settled in the lowlands and
coast from where most of the Jewish refugees originated; most of these
people forgot their Jewish roots, and they comprise the bulk of
refugees who fled Israel in 1948. And, Misinai says, they're the ones
who are most active in terror activities. It's this group that
participated most actively in the intifada, with their objective to
return to the lands they abandoned in 1948 (which they themselves
occupied only about 100 years before, as they settled near areas were
Jews had built towns and cities to get work). In essence, though, the
brethren have now returned to their ancestral homeland east of the
Jordan.

Which leaves the "descendants" the major component of the Palestinian
population on the west side of the Jordan. And it's these people,
Misinai believes, that Israel can - and must - work with to resolve
the Palestinian issue. Not by creating a Palestinian state in Judea
and Samaria, but by offering the "mountain people" the opportunity to
reconnect with their roots - with the Jewish people and with the
modern State of Israel.

"It sounds impractical, but Zionism always was impractical. And yet it
succeeded," says Misinai. But the Palestinian problem has thrown
Zionism out of kilter. Nobody, despite reluctance to go through
another partition, is interested in being an "occupier." But Israel's
reintegration - Engagement, as Misinai puts it - of the Palestinians
with the Jewish people would allow Zionism to renew its roots, and
complete the task of building the modern Israeli nation.

"There are lots of reasons why this would work," says Misinai. "The
fact that most Palestinians consider themselves Muslim is not an
issue, because most of the Palestinians are not particularly religious
Muslims. Until recent decades, there were few mosques relative to
population outside Jerusalem. It was King Hussein, and later the
Israeli Ministry of Religious Affairs, that prompted much of the
mosque building in recent years. Bidya, for example, only had one
mosque for 25,000 residents until recently."

In his writings, Ben-Zvi cited an interesting phenomenon that he
observed. "When the Palestinian peasant swears in the name of the
prophet Muhammad, the oath is not taken seriously. But if he goes to
the grave of a holy person of the village or of the surrounding area
and swears there, we may completely rely on his oath."

THE PALESTINIANS' veneration of the Jewish prophets, their
preservation of the grave sites of the Jewish patriarchs, and their
embrace even of Jewish rituals (Ben-Zvi cites witnesses who recounted
Palestinians and Beduin coming to dance at the grave of Rabbi Shimon
Bar Yohai in Meron on Lag Ba'omer) indicates that the "Musta'abari
[secret Jews] spirit" is still alive and that if offered the
possibility of being not so religious Muslims or not so religious
Jews, the majority would opt for the latter.

This is where the state has a major role to play, Misinai says. "Most
Palestinians are loyal above all to their families, then to their
clans, then to those in position of power and only at the end to their
religion and people. A strong State of Israel, confident in its
direction and its just cause, can successfully execute the Engagement
plan."

One reason Palestinians have kept their Jewish roots secret for so
long - despite the desire of many to come out of the Islamic closet -
is because of their fear of the bully elements in the Palestinian and
Arab leadership, the same groups that perpetuate the misery of Israeli
Jews and descendants of Israel. "Many of the descendants' families are
forced to prove their loyalty to the 'cause' on pain of death," says
Misinai. "For example, many families name one of their children Jihad
to 'prove' their credentials as loyal fighters against the Jews."

If the state were to offer them an alternative, however, Misinai says
many would find the courage to break out of their old patterns and
embrace their true heritage. It's not at all about conversion, he
says, more about developing a cultural affinity and a single national
group. But, he says, it's likely that a large number would want to
convert anyway. Even if many Palestinians prefer not to join the
Jewish people, the fact that many would be willing would set the tone.

For similar reasons Israeli Jews, since the days of Ben-Zvi and Ben-
Gurion, have shunted aside the clear evidence of the Jewish background
of the Palestinians. "After the Holocaust, the issue was set aside, as
the Yishuv had more pressing matters, besides the obvious issues of
language and lifestyle that separated Jews and Palestinians, not to
mention the suffering inflicted by the various uprisings and pogroms
conducted against the Yishuv. And the arrival of Jews from Eastern
countries who had just been booted out of their homes by Muslims, whom
they didn't trust, only exacerbated the divisions."

But now, 60 years later, with the seemingly intractable issue of two
nations laying the same ancestral claim to the same piece of land, it
is time to revisit the past to build the future.

In the end, Misinai says, the reintegration of the Palestinians with
the Jewish people is the best - and only - solution. "We've been down
the path of partition, defensive war and what the world calls
occupation. Nothing has worked. The world is getting very tired of our
bickering, and is pushing to implement a solution - any solution. So
far, the only solutions are the ones that have failed, but here is
some new, fresh thinking, that many Jews and Palestinians would
accept. And if we accept it, so will the nations of the world."

Misinai's Engagement would unite the "two kingdoms of Israel"
described by the prophet Ezekiel.

"The Jews who went into exile held onto their culture, beliefs and
religion, while those that remained behind held as long as they could
to the Land of Israel. Both loves - love of Torah and love of land -
come from the same wellsprings. It's time to repair the historic
damage done by our enemies, the Romans, and reunite our people."

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dsharavi

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On Sep 9, 8:38 pm, Soldier in a Combat Zone <omega....@gmail.com>
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> This is a story of what may be one of the best-kept secrets in history
> - one that could, in time, heal the terrible rift that has torn the
> Land of Israel asunder. After years of research, Misinai says that he
> can declare with certainty that nearly 90 percent of all Palestinians
> are descended from the Jews. "And what's more, about half of them know
> it," he says.

Sure they do. Just like they "knew" they were descended from
Philistines. After they discarded that, they "knew" they were
descended from "Canaanites". I said, years ago, that the next thing
you know, they'd started claiming they're descended from ancient
Israelites. At the time, though, I "knew" was just joking.

Deborah


dsharavi

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On Sep 9, 8:38 pm, Soldier in a Combat Zone <omega....@gmail.com>
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>
> Aug 20, 2009 12:37 | Updated Aug 20, 2009 13:45
> The lost Palestinian Jews
> By DAVID SHAMAH , Jerusalem Post
>
> "We are of the same race and blood, and cooperation will bring great
> prosperity to the land," wrote Emir Faisal to Felix Frankfurter in
> 1917. Faisal was known for his affinity to the Zionists who had begun
> streaming to the Holy Land; in 1919, he signed a cooperation agreement
> with Chaim Weizmann, to whom he wrote that he was "mindful of the
> racial kinship and ancient bonds existing between the Arabs and the
> Jewish people."

Both of these "quotes" are erroneous.

> But Faisal's proclamations of kinship with the Jews were more than lip
> service to a commonly held belief, says Tsvi Misinai, who knows
> perhaps more about the origins of the modern Palestinians than anyone.

Does he? Misinai's paper is here:
http://www.hlinc-zionsake.org/Pal-Jews.html

Misinai didn't claim that the Emir wrote to then-Judge Advocate
General Felix Frankfurter. Misinai claimed the Emir wrote to one
"Frank Port", as follows:

'King Faisal of the Hashemite dynasty went even further, when in 1917
he wrote to Frank Port, "We are of the same race and blood and
cooperation will bring great prosperity to the land."'

Misinai didn't explain why he designated Faisal as a "King" in 1917.
It wasn't until August 1921 that the British appointed Faisal, who was
living in London at the time, as King of Iraq. Misinai also failed to
explain who "Frank Port" was, and why Faisal should have written
anything to him.

As for the second "quote" above, Misinai misleadingly implies it was
part of some personal communication from the Emir to Chaim Weizmann.
It happens, however, to be part of the preamble to the 3rd January
1919 Agreement between the Emir "on behalf of the Arab Kingdom of
Hejaz" and Weizmann "on behalf of the Zionist Organization", as
follows"

"His Royal Highness the Emir FAISAL, representing and acting on behalf
of the Arab Kingdom of HEJAZ, AND Dr. Chaim Weizmann, representing and
acting on behalf of the Zionist Organization, mindful of the racial


kinship and ancient bonds existing between the Arabs and the Jewish

people, and realising that the surest means of working out the
consummation of their national aspirations, is through the closest
possible collaboration in the development of the Arab State and
Palestine, and being desirous further of confirming the good
understanding which exists between them, have agreed upon the
following articles:"
http://www.mideastweb.org/feisweiz.htm

Naturally, Misinai gives no source for what he alleges the Emir wrote
to Dr Weizmann.

> Despite what some may be thinking, Misinai is not a nut. In fact, he
> is a hi-tech entrepreneur, perhaps the first in Israel's history.

He sounds more a spinner of bobbe-mysehs.

> Misinai is far from the first researcher to have stumbled upon this
> historical find. The first president of Israel, Yitzhak Ben-Zvi, and
> the first prime minister, David Ben-Gurion, wrote several books and
> articles on the subject.

If Ben-Zvi and Ben-Gurion wrote several books and articles on Arab
Palestinians' alleged descent from Jews, it should have been a simple
matter to have listed a few of the titles.

>In fact, Ben-Gurion believed so strongly in
> the idea that in 1956 he set up a task force headed by Moshe Dayan and
> Haim Levkov (the Palmah's "point man" among the Arabs of Israel, he
> worked with Yigal Allon to set up the Trackers' Unit, traditionally
> the domain of Negev Beduin), that was supposed to develop ways to
> "Judaize" the Beduin, teaching them something about modern Jewish life
> and tradition to integrate them with the Israeli people, ethnically if
> not religiously.

rotf
Chaim Laskov joined the British army, and was a commander of the
Jewish Brigade (comprised of Palestinian regiments); he was never a
member of the Palmach.

The notion of B-G appointing Yigal Alon to any military position,
after booting him out of the army in 1949, is too funny -- especially
in some "task force" headed by Dayan. So is the idea of B-G sending
Alon to "Judacize" the Beduin.

What a comedian. Is Tsvi Misinai the Israeli version Mel Brooks'
name?

Deborah

william hubbard

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palesimians wouldn't know shit from shi'ite..

Nicholas

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I'm descended, so I'm told, from some monkeys in Africa. Do I LOOK
LIKE A MONKEY? I don't think so. Do I eat bananas? Only on rare
occasion.

Don't put it past any politician to change the rules in the middle of
a Chess Game.

Nick

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> william hubbard <william...@bluebottle.com> wrote:

>
>> dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Soldier in a Combat Zone <omega....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > This is a story of what may be one of the best-kept secrets in history
>>> > - one that could, in time, heal the terrible rift that has torn the
>>> > Land of Israel asunder. After years of research, Misinai says that he
>>> > can declare with certainty that nearly 90 percent of all Palestinians
>>> > are descended from the Jews. "And what's more, about half of them know
>>> > it," he says.
>>>
>>> Sure they do. Just like they "knew" they were descended from
>>> Philistines. After they discarded that, they "knew" they were
>>> descended from "Canaanites". I said, years ago, that the next thing
>>> you know, they'd started claiming they're descended from ancient
>>> Israelites. At the time, though, I "knew" was just joking.
>>>
>>> Deborah
>>
>>palesimians wouldn't know shit from shi'ite..
>
> I'm descended, so I'm told, from some monkeys in
> Africa. Do I LOOK LIKE A MONKEY? I don't think
> so. Do I eat bananas? Only on rare occasion.
>
> Don't put it past any politician to change the rules
> in the middle of a Chess Game.

Just because you don't look like a monkey, it
doesn't mean you need to eat bananas dayly.
Although I never heard of other rules in Chess.
But sectarian Judophobia is still alive and well.....

German Judophobia panel has first meeting
BERLIN
Germany's newly convened panel of experts
on Judophobia met for the first time. At the
meeting, panel members received a packet....
http://jta.org/news/article/2009/09/09/1007753/german-panel-to-examine-anti-semitism
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Judophobic incidents soar in Holland
The number of Judophobic incidents in Holland
was nearly equal to the number of attacks in....
http://jta.org/news/article/2009/09/09/1007754/anti-semitic-incidents-rise-in-holland
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Student fined for Israel flag in Germany
Jerusalem
You can only call that Judophobia. She told the Post
that the protestors in Bochum designated Israelis as
Nazis and the Palestinians in Gaza as Jews....
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1251804530442&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
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Chief Rabbi of Churkia Denounces Judophobia
CIS
At that time, Chief Rabbi Lazar also denounced
Judophobic remarks made by Uzhgorod Mayor
Sergei Ratushnyak. The Holocaust is not just a
tragic event....
http://www.fjc.ru/article.asp?aid=983536
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The Neoconservative Question
New York
... of the Holocaust in one book (Explaining Hitler)
and have edited an anthology about the current threat
of Judophobia (Those Who Forget the Past)....
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/09/the-neoconservative-question/
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EJC president: EU-Israel ties must not be
Iran nuclear threat, Judophobia also on agenda
A European Jewish Congress (EJC) delegation
called this week on Bulgarian President Georgi
Parvanov to use ...
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3774512,00.html
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Wikking

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Well, would you attempt to refute the fact that the Palestinians and
Kurds have more DNA of Ancient Israelis than many modern Israelis do
today? If so, please explain.


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It is clear that the "Birthers", "Teabaggers", politicians and media
hosts or pundits that purvey messages of resistance, insurrection and
don't want their kids to go to school to hear the words of the POTUS
have become the dupes and stooges of foreign intelligence services
that wish to see the US destabilized by a bunch of fools - they must
be laughing their heads off at these wingnuts who are so ready to be
their pawns...

Omega

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If your mother was Jewish, and her mother and her mother then you are
Jewish. As this happened merely 100 years ago, it is still fairly
easy to verify. We are only talking about 3 to 4 generations.

If they are Jewish then that changes the whole dynamic.

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