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RichTravsky

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Feb 15, 2011, 12:35:18 AM2/15/11
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Ref at

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201102100007
FOX NEWS INSIDER: "Stuff Is Just Made Up"
February 10, 2011

Asked what most viewers and observers of Fox News would be surprised to learn
about the controversial cable channel, a former insider from the world of
Rupert Murdoch was quick with a response: "I don't think people would believe
it's as concocted as it is; that stuff is just made up."

Indeed, a former Fox News employee who recently agreed to talk with Media
Matters confirmed what critics have been saying for years about Murdoch's
cable channel. Namely, that Fox News is run as a purely partisan operation,
virtually every news story is actively spun by the staff, its primary goal
is to prop up Republicans and knock down Democrats, and that staffers at
Fox News routinely operate without the slightest regard for fairness or fact
checking.

"It is their M.O. to undermine the administration and to undermine Democrats,"
says the source. "They're a propaganda outfit but they call themselves news."
...

Gee, how is this news? It's what we knew all along ;)

RT

Ron

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Feb 15, 2011, 1:04:27 AM2/15/11
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.
.
And so many of the lies are self-evident in the report that is aired.
I suspect that this is due to time constraints on the staff. They
hurry to lie so often that they stick a collective foot in their
mouth.

My Favorite Fox Falsehood:

http://tiny.cc/WkTYO

"Oh what a tangled web we weave......etc."

RO

NoBody

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Feb 15, 2011, 5:50:10 AM2/15/11
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:35:18 -0700, RichTravsky
<traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:

>Ref at
>
> http://mediamatters.org/blog/201102100007
> FOX NEWS INSIDER: "Stuff Is Just Made Up"
> February 10, 2011
>
> Asked what most viewers and observers of Fox News would be surprised to learn
> about the controversial cable channel, a former insider from the world of
> Rupert Murdoch was quick with a response: "I don't think people would believe
> it's as concocted as it is; that stuff is just made up."
>
> Indeed, a former Fox News employee who recently agreed to talk with Media
> Matters

Leave it to Twitsky to use an unnamed source as "proof"...

Felix Reynaldo

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Feb 15, 2011, 8:18:00 AM2/15/11
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"RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
news:4D5A1096...@hotmMOVEail.com...

> Ref at
>
> http://mediamatters.org/blog/201102100007
> FOX NEWS INSIDER: "Stuff Is Just Made Up"
> February 10, 2011
>
> Asked what most viewers and observers of Fox News would be surprised to
> learn
> about the controversial cable channel, a former insider from the world of
> Rupert Murdoch was quick with a response: "I don't think people would
> believe
> it's as concocted as it is; that stuff is just made up."

What's next? How about wrestling is fixed?

JLS

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Feb 15, 2011, 8:23:35 AM2/15/11
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Careful. They'll sue.

Oh, wait! They got pwned the last time they sued.

Sir Ray

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Feb 15, 2011, 12:16:21 PM2/15/11
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On Feb 15, 8:23 am, JLS <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Oh, wait!   They got pwned the last time they sued


Well, Fox News did win back in 2003 when they were sued for their
right to lie and distort the news and not be called out on it:

"However, Fox appealed to an appellate court and won, after the court
declared that the FCC policy against falsification that Fox violated
was just a policy and not a “law, rule, or regulation”, and so the
whistle blower law did not apply.
The court agreed with WTVT’s (Fox) argument “that the FCC’s policy
against the intentional falsification of the news — which the FCC has
called its “news distortion policy” — does not qualify as the required
“law, rule, or regulation” under section 448.102"

http://foxnewsboycott.com/resources/fox-can-lie-lawsuit/

So we (well, at least the sane people) knew it back in 2003 at the
latest...

Not Sure

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Feb 15, 2011, 2:08:16 PM2/15/11
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Yes, you knew how monstrously successful Fox News was, despite the
howling and sobbing from the hysterical dipshits on the left :)

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RichTravsky

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Feb 15, 2011, 11:17:53 PM2/15/11
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You make it sound like Faux News...

RichTravsky

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Feb 15, 2011, 11:18:52 PM2/15/11
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Hmmm. Wrestling... Faux News... Wrestling... Faux News...

Don't see much difference.

RT

NoBody

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Feb 16, 2011, 6:15:40 AM2/16/11
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And this BS shows up again. Fox News Network was not involved in this
case. It was the local news division of a Fox TV affiliate.

NoBody

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Feb 16, 2011, 6:17:11 AM2/16/11
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Thank you for your admission you can't support the claims.

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Lee Curtis

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Feb 16, 2011, 2:18:49 PM2/16/11
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NoBody wrote:


Does that mean they are an arm of the "liberal media"?

NoBody

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On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 07:57:59 -0700, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

>On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 06:15:40 -0500, NoBody <NoB...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>>>The court agreed with WTVT�s (Fox) argument �that the FCC�s policy
>>>against the intentional falsification of the news � which the FCC has
>>>called its �news distortion policy� � does not qualify as the required
>>>�law, rule, or regulation� under section 448.102"
>>>
>>>http://foxnewsboycott.com/resources/fox-can-lie-lawsuit/
>>>
>>>So we (well, at least the sane people) knew it back in 2003 at the
>>>latest...
>>
>>And this BS shows up again. Fox News Network was not involved in this
>>case. It was the local news division of a Fox TV affiliate.
>
>

>So---any "affiliate" of NBC won't be called "biased" By you because
>it's an "affiliate"
>

If it is a local news affiliate that is being being biased (their own
news reporters and stories) when they report their own stories (and
not one passed along by the network) you'd be a fool to blame the
national network. Are you you a fool?

>Amazing...

Yeah, probably you are...

Sheldon Cooper

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Feb 17, 2011, 6:27:36 AM2/17/11
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So, let's see if I've got this straight -

Media Matters, noted lying sacks of shit that exist through fat checks
my noted Nazi colaborator (by the way, Soros told "60 Minutes" that
he's utterly unrepentant for working with the Nazis) found an unnamed,
fired, disgruntled

So, Media Matters "found" an "unnamed source" who claims to have
worked for FOX News saying that the organization "makes things up."

Well, MY source says the guy worked in the cafeteria until he showed
up drunk and was fired for taking a bath in the sink.

Sheldon Cooper

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Feb 17, 2011, 6:49:39 AM2/17/11
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Can you tell me a SINGLE MAJOR STORY that was critical of Obama what
WASN'T broken by either FOX News, talk radio or conservative media?

ONE?

ONE SINGLE STORY?


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Ray Fischer

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Feb 17, 2011, 1:14:18 PM2/17/11
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Sheldon Cooper <richard...@gmail.com> wrote:
>So, let's see if I've got this straight -

You don't. You're a dumbass rightard bigot. A fascist who
HATES Democrats and "liberals".

--
Ray Fischer | Mendacracy (n.) government by lying
rfis...@sonic.net | The new GOP ideal

NoBody

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Feb 18, 2011, 5:46:52 AM2/18/11
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 08:14:55 -0700, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

>On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 05:54:47 -0500, NoBody <NoB...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>>>So---any "affiliate" of NBC won't be called "biased" By you because
>>>it's an "affiliate"
>>>
>>
>>If it is a local news affiliate that is being being biased (their own
>>news reporters and stories) when they report their own stories (and
>>not one passed along by the network) you'd be a fool to blame the
>>national network. Are you you a fool?
>

>Faux rebroadcast it as fact

Cite? Thought not.

>
>Secondly, once Murdoch argued that "news" doesn't have to be
>truthful--that ruling applies to all his "news"
>

Cite? Thought not.

Sheldon Cooper

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Feb 18, 2011, 12:53:26 PM2/18/11
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On Feb 17, 7:18 am, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 03:27:36 -0800 (PST), Sheldon Cooper

>
> <richarddead...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Media Matters, noted lying sacks of shit that exist through fat checks
> >my noted Nazi collaborator (by the way, Soros
>
> ....as a counter to the 5 times MORE "sacks of shit" that the Scaife
> Enterprises feeds you day after day

Whatever Scaife does, he isn't a LITERAL Nazi collaborator like Soros,

NoBody

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Feb 19, 2011, 10:08:21 AM2/19/11
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<crickets.wav?> Thought so.

RichTravsky

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Feb 19, 2011, 11:09:44 PM2/19/11
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RichTravsky

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Feb 19, 2011, 11:10:23 PM2/19/11
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Oh? Evidence?

RichTravsky

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Feb 19, 2011, 11:12:57 PM2/19/11
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Not Defined wrote:

> RichTravsky wrote:
> > http://mediamatters.org/blog/201102100007
> > FOX NEWS INSIDER: "Stuff Is Just Made Up"
> > February 10, 2011
> >
> > Asked what most viewers and observers of Fox News would be surprised
> > to learn about the controversial cable channel, a former insider
> > from the world of Rupert Murdoch was quick with a response: "I don't
> > think people would believe it's as concocted as it is; that stuff is
> > just made up."
>
> Who is this "insider"? Does anyone have a name of this "insider"?

Mediamatters does.



> > Indeed, a former Fox News employee who recently agreed to talk with

> > Media Matters confirmed what critics have been saying for years


> > about Murdoch's cable channel. Namely, that Fox News is run as a
> > purely partisan operation, virtually every news story is actively
> > spun by the staff, its primary goal is to prop up Republicans and
> > knock down Democrats, and that staffers at Fox News routinely
> > operate without the slightest regard for fairness or fact checking.
>

> Who is this "insider"? Does anyone have a name of this "insider"?

Mediamatters does.



> > "It is their M.O. to undermine the administration and to undermine
> > Democrats," says the source. "They're a propaganda outfit but they
> > call themselves news."
>

> Who is this "insider"? Does anyone have a name of this "insider"?


>
> > Gee, how is this news?
>

> It's news because you are too stupid to fall for it.


>
> > It's what we knew all along
>

> I'm sorry -- who is "WE"? Do the voices in your head wake you up at 4AM?
>
> HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE

http://www.mediaite.com/online/bill-sammons-latest-leaked-fox-news-memo-looks-like-campaign-fact-sheet/

NoBody

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Feb 21, 2011, 5:44:44 AM2/21/11
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On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 21:09:44 -0700, RichTravsky
<traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:

First of all, just because Mediamatters says this guy wrote the email,
it doesn't make it so. Secondly, the quoted Obama's book and made a
conclusion based on his own words. There is nothing "made up" here.
Care to try again?

NoBody

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Feb 21, 2011, 5:46:28 AM2/21/11
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Why are you referencing a story from 2008 to support a story published
that quoted an "unnamed spokesperson" in 2011?

Ray Fischer

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Feb 22, 2011, 2:10:20 AM2/22/11
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NoBody <NoB...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 21:09:44 -0700, RichTravsky
><traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
>
>>NoBody wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 21:17:53 -0700, RichTravsky
>>> <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >NoBody wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:35:18 -0700, RichTravsky
>>> >> <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >Ref at
>>> >> >
>>> >> > http://mediamatters.org/blog/201102100007
>>> >> > FOX NEWS INSIDER: "Stuff Is Just Made Up"
>>> >> > February 10, 2011
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Asked what most viewers and observers of Fox News would be surprised to learn
>>> >> > about the controversial cable channel, a former insider from the world of
>>> >> > Rupert Murdoch was quick with a response: "I don't think people would believe
>>> >> > it's as concocted as it is; that stuff is just made up."
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Indeed, a former Fox News employee who recently agreed to talk with Media
>>> >> > Matters
>>> >>
>>> >> Leave it to Twitsky to use an unnamed source as "proof"...
>>> >
>>> >You make it sound like Faux News...
>>>
>>> Thank you for your admission you can't support the claims.
>>
>>http://www.mediaite.com/online/bill-sammons-latest-leaked-fox-news-memo-looks-like-campaign-fact-sheet/
>
>First of all, just because Mediamatters says this guy wrote the email,

The rightard makes up more lies in order to deny the facts.

"And I'm just *sure* you posted condemning Rachel Maddow's remarks
about killing Buish...." whined Nobody in <7i1ri6lsfqj5qcj02...@4ax.com>
apparently trying to excuse the right-wing political assassination attempt that
killed six people.

NoBody

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Feb 22, 2011, 5:32:46 AM2/22/11
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What lie was that ray-ray?

> "And I'm just *sure* you posted condemning Rachel Maddow's remarks
> about killing Buish...." whined Nobody in <7i1ri6lsfqj5qcj02...@4ax.com>
> apparently trying to excuse the right-wing political assassination attempt that
> killed six people.

Perhaps you were talking about lies on *your* part.

And even more irony from ray-ray since the quotation from me doesn't
excuse anything and he lies in that there is no evidence the attack
was a "right-wing political assassination attempt".

"The US Supreme Court, by definition, is never wrong." (apparently
saying that the Dredd Scott Decision was correct -- watch him squirm
and twist folks...).

Ray Fischer in
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/a64a6e42ee66e572?dmode=source

NoBody

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NoBody

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RichTravsky

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Feb 23, 2011, 12:46:38 AM2/23/11
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Didn't follow any of the links there, I see...

RichTravsky

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Feb 23, 2011, 12:47:26 AM2/23/11
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Duh, shows Faux News' history?

Ray Fischer

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Feb 23, 2011, 2:42:15 AM2/23/11
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It's stupid, has shown no ability to look for any evidence, and has a
near-psychotic opinion of its own competance.

NoBody

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Feb 23, 2011, 5:39:51 AM2/23/11
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Says the dishonestly snipping liar. Only one question comes to mind
-- irony anyone?

NoBody

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Try answering my question this time. This was about "mediamatters"
quoting an unnamed spokesperson as the only proof of their story. Your
only "proof" is talk about something completely unrelated.

NoBody

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On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:47:26 -0700, RichTravsky
<traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:

Care to answer the question I was actually asking? The thread is
about "mediamatters" using an unnamed spokesperson as their only proof
of a story. Your response is to talk about something that happened
years ago.

NoBody

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Man_of_Mind

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On 2/24/2011 4:55 AM, slow_buddy whined as if insulted by:

>>>>> http://www.mediaite.com/online/bill-sammons-latest-leaked-fox-news-memo-looks-like-campaign-fact-sheet/
>>>>
>>>> Why are you referencing a story from 2008 to support a story published
>>>> that quoted an "unnamed spokesperson" in 2011?
>>>
>>> Duh, shows Faux News' history?
>>
>> Try answering my question this time. This was about "mediamatters"
>> quoting an unnamed spokesperson as the only proof of their story

Maybe you should learn how to use a mouse to scroll down a
couple of paragraphs before you go flailing your straw man
around like you know what you're driveling about..

F'rinstance..

From: Sammon, Bill
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 1:02 PM
To: 069 -Politics; 169 -SPECIAL REPORT; 030 -Root (FoxNews.Com)
Subject: fyi: Obama's references to socialism, liberalism, Marxism
and Marxists in his autobiography, "Dreams from My Father." Plus a
couple of his many self-described "racial obsessions"...

* "To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends
carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign
students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural
feminists." (Obama writing about his time at Occidental College in
"Dreams.")

* After his sophomore year, Obama transferred to Columbia
University. He lived on Manhattan's Upper East Side, venturing to the
East Village for "thesocialist conferences I sometimes attended at
Cooper Union," he recalled, adding: "Much of what I absorbed from the
sixties was filtered through my mother, who to the end of her life would
proudly proclaim herself an unreconstructed liberal."

* After graduating from Columbia in 1983, Obama spent a year
working for a consulting firm and then went to work for "a Ralph Nader
offshoot" in Harlem. "In search of some inspiration, I went to hear
Kwame Toure, formerly Stokely Carmichael of SNCC and Black Panther fame,
speak at Columbia. At the entrance to the auditorium, two women, one
black, one Asian, were selling Marxist literature."

During this period, according to Obama, he began a serious romantic
relationship.

* "There was a woman in New York that I loved. She was white,"
Obama wrote in "Dreams." "We saw each other for almost a year. On the
weekends, mostly. Sometimes in her apartment, sometimes in mine. You
know how you can fall into your own private world? Just two people,
hidden and warm. Your own language. Your own customs." But Obama said
their relationship was doomed by the racial difference. "I pushed her
away," he recalled."The emotion between the races could never be pure;
even love was tarnished by the desire to find in the other some element
that was missing from ourselves. Whether we sought out our demons or
salvation, the other race would always remain just that: menacing,
alien, and apart."

* In June 1985, Obama was interviewed in New York by Marty Kaufman,
a community organizer from Chicago. Obama recalled: "There was something
about him that made me wary. A little too sure of himself, maybe. And
white."

By that evening, the subject line of Sammon's email had been inserted --
word-for-word -- into show notes written in preparation for the next
morning's Fox & Friends, which featured an appearance by Sammon.
--
Sammon's attempts to link Obama to radicalism were reflected in Fox
News' graphics. While Sammon spoke, on-air text read: "The Real Barack
Obama; Aligned W/ Marxists, Socialists"; "Obama's Radical Past; Chose
Friends W/ Marxist"; "Obama's Chosen Friends; Marxist Profs & Structural
Feminists"; and "Obama's Racial Divide; 'Emotion B/W Races Never Be Pure.'"
--

NoBody

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On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:19:50 -0600, Man_of_Mind
<baron.v...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 2/24/2011 4:55 AM, slow_buddy whined as if insulted by:
>
>>>>>> http://www.mediaite.com/online/bill-sammons-latest-leaked-fox-news-memo-looks-like-campaign-fact-sheet/
>>>>>
>>>>> Why are you referencing a story from 2008 to support a story published
>>>>> that quoted an "unnamed spokesperson" in 2011?
>>>>
>>>> Duh, shows Faux News' history?
>>>
>>> Try answering my question this time. This was about "mediamatters"
>>> quoting an unnamed spokesperson as the only proof of their story
>
>Maybe you should learn how to use a mouse to scroll down a
>couple of paragraphs before you go flailing your straw man
>around like you know what you're driveling about..
>
>F'rinstance..
>
> From: Sammon, Bill

No proof offered that this email actually came from Sammon other than
them claiming so.

You've lost track of the conversation. I suggest you go back and
understand what I was talking about.

RichTravsky

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RichTravsky

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> Try answering my question this time. This was about "mediamatters"
> quoting an unnamed spokesperson as the only proof of their story. Your
> only "proof" is talk about something completely unrelated.

Why are you referencing a story from 2008 to support a story published

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