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Mattb.
Feb 8, 2015, 6:31:18 PM2/8/15
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DEMOCRATS CO-SPONSOR BILL TO REPEAL COLORADO GUN CONTROL
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/02/07/democrats-co-sponsor-bill-to-repeal-colorado-gun-control/
Three Democratic state senators have joined as co-sponsors on a
Republican bill to repeal Colorado’s “high capacity” magazine ban.
State senators Chris Holbert (R-Parker) and John Cooke (R-Greeley)
initially put SB 175 forward. As a sheriff, Cooke made headlines in
2013 with his opposition to proposed gun control measures. Upon its
passage, he ran for office to work for its repeal.
A house version of the bill was put forth by Rep. Steve Humphrey
(R-Severance).
According to the Denver Post, senators Kerry Donovan (D-Vail), Cheri
Jahn (D-Wheat Ridge), and Leroy Garcia (D-Pueblo) all signed onto
SB-175. Representative Ed Vigil (D-Fort Garland) has signed onto the
house version of the bill.
The “high capacity” magazine ban outlaws the sale of any magazine
holding more than 15 rounds in the state of Colorado. Magpul
Industries, a firearm magazine maker that was based in Colorado, left
the state and took the $85 million they generate annually with them
once the law was passed.
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Three Democratic state senators have joined as co-sponsors on a
Republican bill to repeal Colorado’s “high capacity” magazine ban.
State senators Chris Holbert (R-Parker) and John Cooke (R-Greeley)
initially put SB 175 forward. As a sheriff, Cooke made headlines in
2013 with his opposition to proposed gun control measures. Upon its
passage, he ran for office to work for its repeal.
A house version of the bill was put forth by Rep. Steve Humphrey
(R-Severance).
According to the Denver Post, senators Kerry Donovan (D-Vail), Cheri
Jahn (D-Wheat Ridge), and Leroy Garcia (D-Pueblo) all signed onto
SB-175. Representative Ed Vigil (D-Fort Garland) has signed onto the
house version of the bill.
The “high capacity” magazine ban outlaws the sale of any magazine
holding more than 15 rounds in the state of Colorado. Magpul
Industries, a firearm magazine maker that was based in Colorado, left
the state and took the $85 million they generate annually with them
once the law was passed.
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Matt
Feb 8, 2015, 7:04:52 PM2/8/15
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Mattb. <Trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in
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> DEMOCRATS CO-SPONSOR BILL TO REPEAL COLORADO GUN CONTROL
>
> http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/02/07/democrats-co-sponsor
> -bill-to-repeal-colorado-gun-control/
>
> Three Democratic state senators have joined as co-sponsors on a
> Republican bill to repeal Colorado’s “high capacity” magazine ban.
<chuckle>
Breitbart. Amusing.
Come back when it passes, k?
<LAUGH>
Matt
news:k9sfda1buht220bl3...@4ax.com:
> DEMOCRATS CO-SPONSOR BILL TO REPEAL COLORADO GUN CONTROL
>
> http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/02/07/democrats-co-sponsor
> -bill-to-repeal-colorado-gun-control/
>
> Three Democratic state senators have joined as co-sponsors on a
> Republican bill to repeal Colorado’s “high capacity” magazine ban.
Breitbart. Amusing.
Come back when it passes, k?
<LAUGH>
Matt
BeamMeUpScotty
Feb 8, 2015, 7:09:18 PM2/8/15
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On 2/8/2015 6:31 PM, Mattb. wrote:
> DEMOCRATS CO-SPONSOR BILL TO REPEAL COLORADO GUN CONTROL
>
> http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/02/07/democrats-co-sponsor-bill-to-repeal-colorado-gun-control/
>
> Three Democratic state senators have joined as co-sponsors on a
> Republican bill to repeal Colorado’s “high capacity” magazine ban.
There's three Democrats that want to get re-elected in 2016.... they see
> DEMOCRATS CO-SPONSOR BILL TO REPEAL COLORADO GUN CONTROL
>
> http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/02/07/democrats-co-sponsor-bill-to-repeal-colorado-gun-control/
>
> Three Democratic state senators have joined as co-sponsors on a
> Republican bill to repeal Colorado’s “high capacity” magazine ban.
the tsunami of Americans voters sweeping the Democrats out of office.
But the truth is they don't believe in anything that real Americans like
the average Plumber and average retail workers believe. And NOW "even
they realize it".
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people's money.
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Feb 8, 2015, 8:29:05 PM2/8/15
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BeamMeUpScotty
<I-WAS-JUST-GANG-PROBED-BY-...@IRS.FBI.NSA.CIA.EP
A.ObamaCare.gov> wrote in news:OUSBw.360240$pr4.2...@fx26.iad:
> On 2/8/2015 6:31 PM, Mattb. wrote:
>> DEMOCRATS CO-SPONSOR BILL TO REPEAL COLORADO GUN CONTROL
>>
>> http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/02/07/democrats-co-sponso
>> r-bill-to-repeal-colorado-gun-control/
>>
>> Three Democratic state senators have joined as co-sponsors on a
>> Republican bill to repeal Colorado’s “high capacity” magazine
>> ban.
>
> There's three Democrats that want to get re-elected in 2016.... they
> see the tsunami of Americans voters sweeping the Democrats out of
> office.
<chuckle>
Will you be around when the Republicans get wiped out in 2016? What will
you say then?
Matt
<I-WAS-JUST-GANG-PROBED-BY-...@IRS.FBI.NSA.CIA.EP
A.ObamaCare.gov> wrote in news:OUSBw.360240$pr4.2...@fx26.iad:
> On 2/8/2015 6:31 PM, Mattb. wrote:
>> DEMOCRATS CO-SPONSOR BILL TO REPEAL COLORADO GUN CONTROL
>>
>> http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/02/07/democrats-co-sponso
>> r-bill-to-repeal-colorado-gun-control/
>>
>> Three Democratic state senators have joined as co-sponsors on a
>> Republican bill to repeal Colorado’s “high capacity” magazine
>> ban.
>
> There's three Democrats that want to get re-elected in 2016.... they
> see the tsunami of Americans voters sweeping the Democrats out of
> office.
Will you be around when the Republicans get wiped out in 2016? What will
you say then?
Matt
max headroom
Feb 9, 2015, 2:02:57 AM2/9/15
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Matt <mattt...@sprynet.com> wrote in news:mb92fs$iqi$1...@dont-email.me:
We don't live in your universe with Speaker Pelosi and President Pro Tem Reid.
Matt
Feb 9, 2015, 2:15:16 AM2/9/15
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"max headroom" <maxhe...@localnet.com> wrote in
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>> <I-WAS-JUST-GANG-PROBED-BY-THE-ObamaRegime-SPY-
NET...@IRS.FBI.NSA.CIA
No, you live in some alternate universe where Republicans accomplish
something.
<laugh>
Matt
news:mb9m1r$1eg$1...@dont-email.me:
>> <I-WAS-JUST-GANG-PROBED-BY-THE-ObamaRegime-SPY-
NET...@IRS.FBI.NSA.CIA
>> .EP A.ObamaCare.gov> wrote in news:OUSBw.360240$pr4.2...@fx26.iad:
>
>>> On 2/8/2015 6:31 PM, Mattb. wrote:
>>>> DEMOCRATS CO-SPONSOR BILL TO REPEAL COLORADO GUN CONTROL
>
>>>> http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/02/07/democrats-co-
spon
>>>> sor-bill-to-repeal-colorado-gun-control/
>
>>>> Three Democratic state senators have joined as co-sponsors on a
>>>> Republican bill to repeal Colorado’s “high capacity” magazine
>>>> ban.
>
>>> There's three Democrats that want to get re-elected in 2016.... they
>>> see the tsunami of Americans voters sweeping the Democrats out of
>>> office.
>
>> <chuckle>
>
>> Will you be around when the Republicans get wiped out in 2016? What
>> will you say then?
>
>> Matt
>
> We don't live in your universe with Speaker Pelosi and President Pro
> Tem Reid.
>
<snicker>
>
>>> On 2/8/2015 6:31 PM, Mattb. wrote:
>>>> DEMOCRATS CO-SPONSOR BILL TO REPEAL COLORADO GUN CONTROL
>
>>>> http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/02/07/democrats-co-
spon
>>>> sor-bill-to-repeal-colorado-gun-control/
>
>>>> Three Democratic state senators have joined as co-sponsors on a
>>>> Republican bill to repeal Colorado’s “high capacity” magazine
>>>> ban.
>
>>> There's three Democrats that want to get re-elected in 2016.... they
>>> see the tsunami of Americans voters sweeping the Democrats out of
>>> office.
>
>> <chuckle>
>
>> Will you be around when the Republicans get wiped out in 2016? What
>> will you say then?
>
>> Matt
>
> We don't live in your universe with Speaker Pelosi and President Pro
> Tem Reid.
>
No, you live in some alternate universe where Republicans accomplish
something.
<laugh>
Matt
max headroom
Feb 9, 2015, 11:05:39 AM2/9/15
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Matt <mattt...@sprynet.com> wrote in news:mb9mou$3a2$1...@dont-email.me:
Aww, poor baby, are you still upset that those mean, nasty Republicans didn't capitulate to Beloved
Leader's demands?
The voters were so upset that they replaced Democrats with Republicans all over the country, from
the halls of Congress down through governors' offices, state legislatures, county commissioners and
supervisors, and city councils.
Apparently what the Democrats accomplished was to piss off America.
Leader's demands?
The voters were so upset that they replaced Democrats with Republicans all over the country, from
the halls of Congress down through governors' offices, state legislatures, county commissioners and
supervisors, and city councils.
Apparently what the Democrats accomplished was to piss off America.
Matt
Feb 9, 2015, 11:23:59 AM2/9/15
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"max headroom" <maxhe...@localnet.com> wrote in
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When are they going to balance the budget, like they promised?
Matt
max headroom
Feb 9, 2015, 12:02:34 PM2/9/15
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Matt <mattt...@sprynet.com> wrote in news:mbamtp$dl$1...@dont-email.me:
promises to veto, then turn around and bitch that they haven't passed a budget that Beloved Leader
will veto.
Now that Harry Reid is a nobody, maybe we'll see it happen. If it does, pinkies will be screeching
like stuck pigs.
>> didn't capitulate to Beloved Leader's demands?
> .. do anything? Yes.
> When are they going to balance the budget, like they promised?
It's hilarious that pinkies bitch that Republicans waste time passing bills that Beloved Leader
> When are they going to balance the budget, like they promised?
promises to veto, then turn around and bitch that they haven't passed a budget that Beloved Leader
will veto.
Now that Harry Reid is a nobody, maybe we'll see it happen. If it does, pinkies will be screeching
like stuck pigs.
Dänk 42Ø
Feb 9, 2015, 12:25:02 PM2/9/15
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the same story as reported by the Denver Post:
http://www.denverpost.com/News/ci_27476771/Democrats-sign-on-to-bill-repealing-ammunition-magazine-limits
Whether the bill will pass is unknown, but remember that just a few
years ago it was almost unthinkable that marijuana would ever be
legalized. Colorado is a very independent state, its residents being
an eclectic mix of stoner hippies, jet-setting skiers, gun-toting
militiamen, and "average" suburbanites. Coloradoans can not be
pigeonholed as easily as one might try to do for residents of the Deep
South or San Francisco. (All southerners are inbred hillbillies and
all SanFranciscoans are left-wing perverts is not exactly true, but
it is close, whereas it is difficult to assign a similar label
to Colorado.)
http://kowb1290.com/files/2012/11/PotTourismColorado.jpg
Scout
Feb 9, 2015, 1:10:27 PM2/9/15
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> Matt <mattt...@sprynet.com> wrote in news:mbamtp$dl$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>> "max headroom" <maxhe...@localnet.com> wrote in
>> news:mbalrc$rab$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>>> Matt <mattt...@sprynet.com> wrote in
>>> news:mb9mou$3a2$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>>>> "max headroom" <maxhe...@localnet.com> wrote in
>>>> news:mb9m1r$1eg$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>>>>> Matt <mattt...@sprynet.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:mb92fs$iqi$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>>>>>> BeamMeUpScotty
>>>>>> <I-WAS-JUST-GANG-PROBED-BY-THE-ObamaRegime-SPY-
>>>>>> NET...@IRS.FBI.NSA.CIA .EP A.ObamaCare.gov> wrote in
>>>>>> news:OUSBw.360240$pr4.2...@fx26.iad:
>
>>>>>>> On 2/8/2015 6:31 PM, Mattb. wrote:
>
>>>>>>>> DEMOCRATS CO-SPONSOR BILL TO REPEAL COLORADO GUN CONTROL
>
>>>>>>>> http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/02/07/democrats-co-sponsor-bill-to-repeal-colorado-gun-control/
>
>>>>>>>> Three Democratic state senators have joined as co-sponsors on a
>>>>>>>> Republican bill to repeal Coloradoâ?Ts â?ohigh capacityâ?ť
>
>> "max headroom" <maxhe...@localnet.com> wrote in
>> news:mbalrc$rab$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>>> Matt <mattt...@sprynet.com> wrote in
>>> news:mb9mou$3a2$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>>>> "max headroom" <maxhe...@localnet.com> wrote in
>>>> news:mb9m1r$1eg$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>>>>> Matt <mattt...@sprynet.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:mb92fs$iqi$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>>>>>> BeamMeUpScotty
>>>>>> <I-WAS-JUST-GANG-PROBED-BY-THE-ObamaRegime-SPY-
>>>>>> NET...@IRS.FBI.NSA.CIA .EP A.ObamaCare.gov> wrote in
>>>>>> news:OUSBw.360240$pr4.2...@fx26.iad:
>
>>>>>>> On 2/8/2015 6:31 PM, Mattb. wrote:
>
>>>>>>>> DEMOCRATS CO-SPONSOR BILL TO REPEAL COLORADO GUN CONTROL
>
>>>>>>>> http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/02/07/democrats-co-sponsor-bill-to-repeal-colorado-gun-control/
>
>>>>>>>> Three Democratic state senators have joined as co-sponsors on a
>>>>>>>> magazine ban.
>
>>>>>>> There's three Democrats that want to get re-elected in 2016....
>>>>>>> they see the tsunami of Americans voters sweeping the Democrats
>>>>>>> out of office.
>
>>>>>> <chuckle>
>
>>>>>> Will you be around when the Republicans get wiped out in 2016? What
>>>>>> will you say then?
>
>>>>>> Matt
>
>>>>> We don't live in your universe with Speaker Pelosi and President Pro
>>>>> Tem Reid.
>
>>>> <snicker>
>
>>>> No, you live in some alternate universe where Republicans accomplish
>>>> something.
>
>>>> <laugh>
>
>>> Aww, poor baby, are you still upset that those mean, nasty Republicans
>>> didn't capitulate to Beloved Leader's demands?
>
>> .. do anything? Yes.
>
>> When are they going to balance the budget, like they promised?
>
> It's hilarious that pinkies bitch that Republicans waste time passing
> bills that Beloved Leader
> promises to veto, then turn around and bitch that they haven't passed a
> budget that Beloved Leader
> will veto.
Personally, I think they should proceed, put the bill on the President's
>
>>>>>>> There's three Democrats that want to get re-elected in 2016....
>>>>>>> they see the tsunami of Americans voters sweeping the Democrats
>>>>>>> out of office.
>
>>>>>> <chuckle>
>
>>>>>> Will you be around when the Republicans get wiped out in 2016? What
>>>>>> will you say then?
>
>>>>>> Matt
>
>>>>> We don't live in your universe with Speaker Pelosi and President Pro
>>>>> Tem Reid.
>
>>>> <snicker>
>
>>>> No, you live in some alternate universe where Republicans accomplish
>>>> something.
>
>>>> <laugh>
>
>>> Aww, poor baby, are you still upset that those mean, nasty Republicans
>>> didn't capitulate to Beloved Leader's demands?
>
>> .. do anything? Yes.
>
>> When are they going to balance the budget, like they promised?
>
> It's hilarious that pinkies bitch that Republicans waste time passing
> bills that Beloved Leader
> promises to veto, then turn around and bitch that they haven't passed a
> budget that Beloved Leader
> will veto.
desk and dare him not to sign it.
Make him have to publically commit to actually rejecting such legislation
rather than by rumors he would do so.
deep
Feb 9, 2015, 2:19:05 PM2/9/15
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On Mon, 9 Feb 2015 13:10:23 -0500, "Scout"
<me4...@vcenturylink.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>
>> It's hilarious that pinkies bitch that Republicans waste time passing
>> bills that Beloved Leader
>> promises to veto, then turn around and bitch that they haven't passed a
>> budget that Beloved Leader
>> will veto.
>
>Personally, I think they should proceed, put the bill on the President's
>desk and dare him not to sign it.
>
>Make him have to publically commit to actually rejecting such legislation
>rather than by rumors he would do so.
>
Maybe they should try passing a bill that they know he will sign. Like
<me4...@vcenturylink.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>
>> It's hilarious that pinkies bitch that Republicans waste time passing
>> bills that Beloved Leader
>> promises to veto, then turn around and bitch that they haven't passed a
>> budget that Beloved Leader
>> will veto.
>
>Personally, I think they should proceed, put the bill on the President's
>desk and dare him not to sign it.
>
>Make him have to publically commit to actually rejecting such legislation
>rather than by rumors he would do so.
>
one that is actually good for regular Americans.
Matt
Feb 9, 2015, 2:21:26 PM2/9/15
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Matt
max headroom
Feb 9, 2015, 2:52:47 PM2/9/15
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Matt <mattt...@sprynet.com> wrote in news:mbb1ag$hot$1...@dont-email.me:
> Whine whine whine....
We're too busy laughing at you to whine.
> ... When are they going to balance the budget?
We're too busy laughing at you to whine.
> ... When are they going to balance the budget?
max headroom
Feb 9, 2015, 2:52:48 PM2/9/15
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deep <deep> wrote in news:3q1idalgq7r0ale36...@4ax.com:
> Maybe they should try passing a bill that they know he will sign....
Even if it's bad law?
> ... Like one that is actually good for regular Americans.
Wait and see. You'll know it when Pelosi and Reid screech like stuck pigs.
Even if it's bad law?
> ... Like one that is actually good for regular Americans.
Wait and see. You'll know it when Pelosi and Reid screech like stuck pigs.
RD Sandman
Feb 9, 2015, 3:18:11 PM2/9/15
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Matt <mattt...@sprynet.com> wrote in news:mbb1ag$hot$1...@dont-email.me:
When do you think was the last time the spending v revenue was *actually*
balanced?
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Feb 9, 2015, 8:06:55 PM2/9/15
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"max headroom" <maxhe...@localnet.com> wrote in
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>
>> ... When are they going to balance the budget?
>
> Now that Harry Reid is a nobody, maybe we'll see it happen. If it
> does, pinkies will be screeching like stuck pigs.
happens, k?
Until then... they've done nothing.
Matt
Matt
Feb 9, 2015, 8:08:47 PM2/9/15
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RD Sandman <rdsandman[remove]comcast.net> wrote in
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60s, under Johnson, I believe.
Matt
news:XnsA43C87555...@216.166.97.131:
Matt
deep
Feb 9, 2015, 8:19:04 PM2/9/15
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On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 01:06:17 +0000 (UTC), Matt
<mattt...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>Waiting for them to introduce a bill. You'll let us know when that
>happens, k?
>
>Until then... they've done nothing.
>
Not true. They've voted 47 time to repeal the ACA, and they are
<mattt...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>Waiting for them to introduce a bill. You'll let us know when that
>happens, k?
>
>Until then... they've done nothing.
>
beginning on their eigth investigation into Benghazi.
>Matt
Matt
Feb 9, 2015, 8:23:07 PM2/9/15
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max headroom
Feb 9, 2015, 11:49:04 PM2/9/15
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Matt <mattt...@sprynet.com> wrote in news:mbbli9$59s$1...@dont-email.me:
We've been laughing our asses off since November 4th, 2014... at you.
>>> ... When are they going to balance the budget?
>> Now that Harry Reid is a nobody, maybe we'll see it happen. If it
>> does, pinkies will be screeching like stuck pigs.
> Waiting for them to introduce a bill. You'll let us know when that
> happens, k?
Gave up on waiting for the Democrats to introduce that bill, huh?
> Until then... they've done nothing.
Except stop Pelosi and Reid from dragging us down further.
>>> ... When are they going to balance the budget?
>> Now that Harry Reid is a nobody, maybe we'll see it happen. If it
>> does, pinkies will be screeching like stuck pigs.
> Waiting for them to introduce a bill. You'll let us know when that
> happens, k?
> Until then... they've done nothing.
Scout
Feb 10, 2015, 12:31:07 AM2/10/15
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them.
If all Congress does is present Obama with what he wants....then there is
ZERO point to Congress except to exist as the illusion of an independent
branch of government.
benj
Feb 10, 2015, 1:51:41 AM2/10/15
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does.
Best is gridlock when nothing gets done.
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Feb 10, 2015, 7:58:18 AM2/10/15
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On Mon, 09 Feb 2015 18:19:03 -0700, deep wrote:
>On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 01:06:17 +0000 (UTC), Matt
><mattt...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>
>>Waiting for them to introduce a bill. You'll let us know when that
>>happens, k?
>>
>>Until then... they've done nothing.
>>
>Not true. They've voted 47 time to repeal the ACA
You're lying, as you usually do.
>On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 01:06:17 +0000 (UTC), Matt
><mattt...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>
>>Waiting for them to introduce a bill. You'll let us know when that
>>happens, k?
>>
>>Until then... they've done nothing.
>>
>Not true. They've voted 47 time to repeal the ACA
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Feb 10, 2015, 8:16:16 AM2/10/15
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On Mon, 09 Feb 2015 18:19:03 -0700, deep wrote:
The GOP House on Tuesday voted for the fourth time to completely
repeal ObamaCare, but this time with instructions for several
committees to replace the healthcare law with new policies.
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/231638-house-votes-to-repeal-obamacare
deep
Feb 10, 2015, 8:36:38 AM2/10/15
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wealth corporatist masters. And they insist on getting their money's
worth whenever they pay such premium prices.
Klaus Schadenfreude
Feb 10, 2015, 9:05:53 AM2/10/15
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max headroom
Feb 10, 2015, 9:55:44 AM2/10/15
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From the tone of his posts this year, I'm guessing something he found in the classifieds on Daily
Kos.
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Kos.
benj
Feb 10, 2015, 11:04:56 AM2/10/15
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NRA, AARP, Labor Unions and others insist on getting their money's worth
too! And since Congress sits on all that "free money" to hand out, it
gives them importance.
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RD Sandman
Feb 10, 2015, 11:46:24 AM2/10/15
to
Matt <mattt...@sprynet.com> wrote in news:mbbllp$59s$2...@dont-email.me:
Nope. Debt went up every year under Johnson.
06/30/1970 370,918,706,949.93
06/30/1969 353,720,253,841.41
06/30/1968 347,578,406,425.88
06/30/1967 326,220,937,794.54
06/30/1966 319,907,087,795.48
06/30/1965 317,273,898,983.64
06/30/1964 311,712,899,257.30
06/30/1963 305,859,632,996.41
06/30/1962 298,200,822,720.87
06/30/1961 288,970,938,610.05
06/30/1960 286,330,760,848.37
06/30/1959 284,705,907,078.22
06/30/1958 276,343,217,745.81
06/30/1970 370,918,706,949.93
06/30/1969 353,720,253,841.41
06/30/1968 347,578,406,425.88
06/30/1967 326,220,937,794.54
06/30/1966 319,907,087,795.48
06/30/1965 317,273,898,983.64
06/30/1964 311,712,899,257.30
06/30/1963 305,859,632,996.41
06/30/1962 298,200,822,720.87
06/30/1961 288,970,938,610.05
06/30/1960 286,330,760,848.37
06/30/1959 284,705,907,078.22
06/30/1958 276,343,217,745.81
Scout
Feb 10, 2015, 12:43:22 PM2/10/15
to
"deep" wrote in message news:a92kdalphvb7s2b9d...@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 00:31:03 -0500, "Scout"
> <me4...@vcenturylink.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"deep" wrote in message news:3q1idalgq7r0ale36...@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 9 Feb 2015 13:10:23 -0500, "Scout"
>>> <me4...@vcenturylink.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's hilarious that pinkies bitch that Republicans waste time passing
>>>>> bills that Beloved Leader
>>>>> promises to veto, then turn around and bitch that they haven't passed
>>>>> a
>>>>> budget that Beloved Leader
>>>>> will veto.
>>>>
>>>>Personally, I think they should proceed, put the bill on the President's
>>>>desk and dare him not to sign it.
>>>>
>>>>Make him have to publically commit to actually rejecting such
>>>>legislation
>>>>rather than by rumors he would do so.
>>>>
>>> Maybe they should try passing a bill that they know he will sign.
>>
>>No, they should pass bills that we need.....and then dare Obama to veto
>>them.
>>
>>If all Congress does is present Obama with what he wants....then there is
>>ZERO point to Congress except to exist as the illusion of an independent
>>branch of government.
>>
> Congress is just an illusion.
And yet it exists in reality...
> <me4...@vcenturylink.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"deep" wrote in message news:3q1idalgq7r0ale36...@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 9 Feb 2015 13:10:23 -0500, "Scout"
>>> <me4...@vcenturylink.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's hilarious that pinkies bitch that Republicans waste time passing
>>>>> bills that Beloved Leader
>>>>> promises to veto, then turn around and bitch that they haven't passed
>>>>> a
>>>>> budget that Beloved Leader
>>>>> will veto.
>>>>
>>>>Personally, I think they should proceed, put the bill on the President's
>>>>desk and dare him not to sign it.
>>>>
>>>>Make him have to publically commit to actually rejecting such
>>>>legislation
>>>>rather than by rumors he would do so.
>>>>
>>> Maybe they should try passing a bill that they know he will sign.
>>
>>No, they should pass bills that we need.....and then dare Obama to veto
>>them.
>>
>>If all Congress does is present Obama with what he wants....then there is
>>ZERO point to Congress except to exist as the illusion of an independent
>>branch of government.
>>
> Congress is just an illusion.
Tells us all we need to know about your view of reality.
<snip Dudu's irrational rant>
Scout
Feb 10, 2015, 12:43:53 PM2/10/15
to
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <Klausscha...@gmx.com> wrote in message
news:r04kdadpq9jvdo506...@4ax.com...
for him?
Scout
Feb 10, 2015, 12:47:46 PM2/10/15
to
news:mbd649$vvd$1...@dont-email.me...
What's always amusing it that he will spout something like this when he runs
out of talking points, but within a week he will be praising those same
people for opposing the "corporate masters".
out of talking points, but within a week he will be praising those same
people for opposing the "corporate masters".
Scout
Feb 10, 2015, 12:48:47 PM2/10/15
to
"benj" <nob...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:H_pCw.36443$dw5....@fx25.iad...
Dudu's corporate masters.
Matt
Feb 10, 2015, 1:55:57 PM2/10/15
to
RD Sandman <rdsandman[remove]comcast.net> wrote in
news:XnsA43D636D7...@216.166.97.131:
> Matt <mattt...@sprynet.com> wrote in news:mbbllp$59s$2@dont-
€
Someone in the 1910s. However, the above list isn't entirely accurate,
since the debt goes up by interest on it, whether or not the budget is
balanced. If you use your definition, you not only have to spend less
than you take in, but also take in enough to cover the debt plus a
little. It is certainly true, but I don't think most people think of it
that way.
Matt
max headroom
Feb 10, 2015, 2:08:58 PM2/10/15
to
Matt <mattt...@sprynet.com> wrote in news:mbdk6n$5hm$1...@dont-email.me:
> RD Sandman <rdsandman[remove]comcast.net> wrote in
> news:XnsA43D636D7...@216.166.97.131:
>> Matt <mattt...@sprynet.com> wrote in news:mbbllp$59s$2@dont- email.me:
>>> RD Sandman <rdsandman[remove]comcast.net> wrote in
>>> news:XnsA43C87555...@216.166.97.131:
A real budget must include debt service, dontcha think?
> ... If you use your definition, you not only have to spend less
> RD Sandman <rdsandman[remove]comcast.net> wrote in
> news:XnsA43D636D7...@216.166.97.131:
>> Matt <mattt...@sprynet.com> wrote in news:mbbllp$59s$2@dont- email.me:
>>> RD Sandman <rdsandman[remove]comcast.net> wrote in
>>> news:XnsA43C87555...@216.166.97.131:
>>>> When do you think was the last time the spending v revenue was
>>>> *actually* balanced?
>>> 60s, under Johnson, I believe.
>>> Matt
>> Nope. Debt went up every year under Johnson.
>> 06/30/1970 370,918,706,949.93
>> 06/30/1969 353,720,253,841.41
>> 06/30/1968 347,578,406,425.88
>> 06/30/1967 326,220,937,794.54
>> 06/30/1966 319,907,087,795.48
>> 06/30/1965 317,273,898,983.64
>> 06/30/1964 311,712,899,257.30
>> 06/30/1963 305,859,632,996.41
>> 06/30/1962 298,200,822,720.87
>> 06/30/1961 288,970,938,610.05
>> 06/30/1960 286,330,760,848.37
>> 06/30/1959 284,705,907,078.22
>> 06/30/1958 276,343,217,745.81
> Ah, I see your definition now. That would have been Hoover, maybe.
> Someone in the 1910s. However, the above list isn't entirely accurate,
> since the debt goes up by interest on it, whether or not the budget is
> balanced....
>>>> *actually* balanced?
>>> 60s, under Johnson, I believe.
>>> Matt
>> Nope. Debt went up every year under Johnson.
>> 06/30/1970 370,918,706,949.93
>> 06/30/1969 353,720,253,841.41
>> 06/30/1968 347,578,406,425.88
>> 06/30/1967 326,220,937,794.54
>> 06/30/1966 319,907,087,795.48
>> 06/30/1965 317,273,898,983.64
>> 06/30/1964 311,712,899,257.30
>> 06/30/1963 305,859,632,996.41
>> 06/30/1962 298,200,822,720.87
>> 06/30/1961 288,970,938,610.05
>> 06/30/1960 286,330,760,848.37
>> 06/30/1959 284,705,907,078.22
>> 06/30/1958 276,343,217,745.81
> Ah, I see your definition now. That would have been Hoover, maybe.
> Someone in the 1910s. However, the above list isn't entirely accurate,
> since the debt goes up by interest on it, whether or not the budget is
A real budget must include debt service, dontcha think?
> ... If you use your definition, you not only have to spend less
> than you take in, but also take in enough to cover the debt plus a
> little. It is certainly true, but I don't think most people think of it
> that way.
Democrats count on that.
> little. It is certainly true, but I don't think most people think of it
> that way.
RD Sandman
Feb 10, 2015, 2:20:15 PM2/10/15
to
Matt <mattt...@sprynet.com> wrote in news:mbdk6n$5hm$1...@dont-email.me:
Interest is added at the end of the fiscal year. The point is that the
only modern president to claim a surplus was Clinton but that was ONLY on
budgeted items. He did better than other presidents around him but he
did not produce an actual surplus.
whether or not the budget is
> balanced.
And also added to that debt is non-budgeted items, for example, to cover
legislation passed during a fiscal year. Those items were NOT in the
budget but often need to be paid for at the time the legislation is
passed. They will, most likely be in the next fiscal year's budget.
If you use your definition, you not only have to spend less
> than you take in, but also take in enough to cover the debt plus a
> little. It is certainly true, but I don't think most people think of it
> that way.
The point is that interest on the debt IS a budgeted item. It does not
create the deficit.
only modern president to claim a surplus was Clinton but that was ONLY on
budgeted items. He did better than other presidents around him but he
did not produce an actual surplus.
whether or not the budget is
> balanced.
legislation passed during a fiscal year. Those items were NOT in the
budget but often need to be paid for at the time the legislation is
passed. They will, most likely be in the next fiscal year's budget.
If you use your definition, you not only have to spend less
> than you take in, but also take in enough to cover the debt plus a
> little. It is certainly true, but I don't think most people think of it
> that way.
create the deficit.
RD Sandman
Feb 10, 2015, 2:20:57 PM2/10/15
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"max headroom" <maxhe...@localnet.com> wrote in
news:mbdkv3$ab4$1...@dont-email.me:
>> ... If you use your definition, you not only have to spend less
>> than you take in, but also take in enough to cover the debt plus a
>> little. It is certainly true, but I don't think most people think of
>> it that way.
>
> Democrats count on that.
>
>
>
Matt
Feb 10, 2015, 2:22:24 PM2/10/15
to
"max headroom" <maxhe...@localnet.com> wrote in
news:mbdkv3$ab4$1...@dont-email.me:
Matt
Matt
Feb 10, 2015, 2:23:56 PM2/10/15
to
RD Sandman <rdsandman[remove]comcast.net> wrote in
news:XnsA43D7D82F...@216.166.97.131:
>
> whether or not the budget is
>> balanced.
>
> And also added to that debt is non-budgeted items, for example, to
> cover legislation passed during a fiscal year. Those items were NOT
> in the budget but often need to be paid for at the time the
> legislation is passed. They will, most likely be in the next fiscal
> year's budget.
items. Clearly, the Feds must have *some* flexibility in spending, since
national disasters, wars and the like do occur.
>
> If you use your definition, you not only have to spend less
>> than you take in, but also take in enough to cover the debt plus a
>> little. It is certainly true, but I don't think most people think of
>> it that way.
>
> The point is that interest on the debt IS a budgeted item. It does
> not create the deficit.
Matt
Klaus Schadenfreude
Feb 10, 2015, 2:50:26 PM2/10/15
to
It's time for Dudu to strap some explosives around his chest, climb
the White House fence, and save us all.
"In reality, I'm trying to save you all."
-Deep Dudu
RD Sandman
Feb 10, 2015, 3:47:13 PM2/10/15
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Matt <mattt...@sprynet.com> wrote in news:mbdlr6$du6$2...@dont-email.me:
Yes, and they would be handled on an "exception" basis, not run of the
mill legislation.
>> If you use your definition, you not only have to spend less
>>> than you take in, but also take in enough to cover the debt plus a
>>> little. It is certainly true, but I don't think most people think of
>>> it that way.
>>
>> The point is that interest on the debt IS a budgeted item. It does
>> not create the deficit.
>
> Didn't know that, thanks.
You are welcome. However, keep in mind that things can come up which
will require the borrowing of money. Interest on that money that was
borrowed would become part of next fiscal year's debt service. We just
don't want that happening on a scheduled basis. ;)
mill legislation.
>> If you use your definition, you not only have to spend less
>>> than you take in, but also take in enough to cover the debt plus a
>>> little. It is certainly true, but I don't think most people think of
>>> it that way.
>>
>> The point is that interest on the debt IS a budgeted item. It does
>> not create the deficit.
>
> Didn't know that, thanks.
will require the borrowing of money. Interest on that money that was
borrowed would become part of next fiscal year's debt service. We just
don't want that happening on a scheduled basis. ;)
Sn...@smack.com
Feb 10, 2015, 4:42:09 PM2/10/15
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On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 11:50:19 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<Klausscha...@gmx.com> wrote:
>>> One wonders what Dudu is smoking so early in the morning.....
>>
>>Particularly when he supports Obama and who does he think bought and paid
>>for him?
>>
>
>The situation is grim, I tell ya.
Getting fucked year after year by Obama and all the rest of the good
<Klausscha...@gmx.com> wrote:
>>> One wonders what Dudu is smoking so early in the morning.....
>>
>>Particularly when he supports Obama and who does he think bought and paid
>>for him?
>>
>
>The situation is grim, I tell ya.
guys--(without vaseline) must be pretty hard, Shitter-in-Pantzen
Sn...@smack.com
Feb 10, 2015, 4:43:17 PM2/10/15
to
On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 13:20:56 -0600, RD Sandman
<rdsandman[remove]comcast.net> wrote:
>> A real budget must include debt service, dontcha think?
>
>Bingo!!
Would it be relevant to include the amount of debt caused BY (and for)
<rdsandman[remove]comcast.net> wrote:
>> A real budget must include debt service, dontcha think?
>
>Bingo!!
Republicans since St. Raygun came to power?
Sn...@smack.com
Feb 10, 2015, 4:43:40 PM2/10/15
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On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 19:21:46 +0000 (UTC), Matt
<mattt...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>> A real budget must include debt service, dontcha think?
>
>They do. What is the Republican plan for doing so?
>
>Matt
Two word answer:
<mattt...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>> A real budget must include debt service, dontcha think?
>
>They do. What is the Republican plan for doing so?
>
>Matt
Blame Obama
RD Sandman
Feb 10, 2015, 4:48:05 PM2/10/15
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Sn...@smack.com wrote in news:8qukdalhb6ujmp49l...@4ax.com:
Sure....as long as you also consider the responsibility of the Democrats
in the same mess:
Enjoy.....
I added the vote statistics and the composition of both Houses of
Congress.
1978 - Marquette vs. First of Omaha Supreme Court allows banks to export
the usury laws of their home state nationwide and sets off a competitive
wave of deregulation, resulting in the complete elimination of usury rate
ceilings in South Dakota and Delaware, among others.
1980 - Depository Institutions Deregulation and Monetary Control Act
Legislation increases deposit insurance from $40,000 to $100,000,
authorizes new authority to thrift institutions, and calls for the
complete phase-out of interest rate ceilings on deposit accounts.
Senate - 76 - 9 Roll call vote
House - 367 - 69 Roll call vote
Composition of Congress
Senate Dems - 58 Reps - 41 Other - 1
House Dems - 277 Reps - 158
President - Jimmy Carter
1982 - Garn-St. Germain Depository Institutions Act Bill deregulates
thrifts almost entirely, allowing commercial lending and providing for a
new account to compete with money market mutual funds. This was a Reagan
administration initiative that passed with strong bi-partisan support.
Senate - Voice vote
House - 272 - 91
Composition of Congress
Senate Dems - 46 Reps - 53 Other - 1
House Dems - 242 Reps - 192 Other - 1
President Ronald Reagan
1987 - FSLIC Insolvency GAO declares the deposit insurance fund of the
savings and loan industry to be insolvent as a result of mounting
institutional failures.
1989 - Financial Institutions Reform and Recovery Act Act abolishes the
Federal Home Loan Bank Board and FSLIC, transferring them to OTS and the
FDIC, respectively. The plan also creates the Resolution Trust
Corporation to resolve failed thrifts.
Senate - 91 - 8 vote
House - 320 - 97 Roll call vote
Composition of Congress
Senate Dems - 55 Reps - 45
House Dems - 260 Reps - 175
President George Herbert Walker Bush
1994 - Riegle-Neal Interstate Banking and Branching Efficiency Act This
bill eliminated previous restrictions on interstate banking and
branching. It passed with broad bi-partisan support.
Senate - Voice vote
House - Voice vote
Composition of Congress
Senate Dems - 57 Reps - 43
House Dems - 258 Reps - 176
President William J Clinton
1996 - Fed Reinterprets Glass-Steagall Federal Reserve reinterprets the
Glass-Steagall Act several times, eventually allowing bank holding
companies to earn up to 25 percent of their revenues in investment
banking.
1998 - Citicorp-Travelers Merger Citigroup, Inc. merges a commercial
bank with an insurance company that owns an investment bank to form the
world's largest financial services company.
1999 - Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act With support from Fed Chairman Greenspan,
Treasury Secretary Rubin and his successor Lawrence Summers, the bill
repeals the Glass-Steagall Act completely.
Yes No NV
Senate
Dem 38 7 0
Rep 52 1 2
House
Dem 155 51 5
Rep 207 5 10
Composition of Congress
Senate Dems - 45 Reps - 55
House Dems - 207 Reps - 226 Other - 2
President William J Clinton
2000 - Commodity Futures Modernization Act Passed with support from the
Clinton Administration, including Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers,
and bi-partisan support in Congress. The bill prevented the Commodity
Futures Trading Commission from regulating most over-the-counter
derivative contracts, including credit default swaps.
House - 292 - 60
Senate - 52 - 43
Composition of Congress
Senate Dems - 45 Reps - 55
House Dems - 211 Reps - 223
President William J Clinton
2004 - Voluntary Regulation The SEC proposes a system of voluntary
regulation under the Consolidated Supervised Entities program, allowing
investment banks to hold less capital in reserve and increase leverage.
2007, Subprime Mortgage Crisis Defaults on subprime loans send
shockwaves throughout the secondary mortgage market and the entire
financial system.
December 2007 - Term Auction Facility Special liquidity facility of the
Federal Reserve lends to depository institutions. Unlike lending through
the discount window, there is no public disclosure on loans made through
this facility.
March 2008 - Bear Stearns Collapse The investment bank is sold to JP
Morgan Chase with assistance from the Federal Reserve.
March 2008 - Primary Dealer Facilities Special lending facilities open
the discount window to investment banks, accepting a broad range of
asset-backed securities as collateral.
July 2008 - Housing and Economic Recovery Act Provides guarantees on new
mortgages to subprime borrowers and authorizes a new federal agency, the
FHFA, which eventually places Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac into
conservatorship.
September 2008 - Lehman Brothers Collapse Investment bank files for
Chapter 11 bankruptcy.
October 2008 - Emergency Economic Stabilization Act Bill authorizes the
Treasury to establish the Troubled Asset Relief Program to purchase
distressed mortgage-backed securities and inject capital into the
nation's banking system. Also increases deposit insurance from $100,000
to $250,000.
House Yes No NV
Dems - 172 63
Rep 91 108
Senate 74 25
Composition of Congress
Senate Dems - 49 Reps - 49 Other - 2
House Dems - 233 Reps - 198 Other - 4
President George W Bush
Late 2008 - Money Market Liquidity Facilities Federal Reserve
facilities created to facilitate the purchase of various money market
instruments.
March 2009 - Public-Private Investment Program Treasury Secretary
Timothy Geithner introduces his plan to subsidize the purchase of toxic
assets with government guarantees.
http://tinyurl.com/73awdy8
in the same mess:
Enjoy.....
I added the vote statistics and the composition of both Houses of
Congress.
1978 - Marquette vs. First of Omaha Supreme Court allows banks to export
the usury laws of their home state nationwide and sets off a competitive
wave of deregulation, resulting in the complete elimination of usury rate
ceilings in South Dakota and Delaware, among others.
1980 - Depository Institutions Deregulation and Monetary Control Act
Legislation increases deposit insurance from $40,000 to $100,000,
authorizes new authority to thrift institutions, and calls for the
complete phase-out of interest rate ceilings on deposit accounts.
Senate - 76 - 9 Roll call vote
House - 367 - 69 Roll call vote
Composition of Congress
Senate Dems - 58 Reps - 41 Other - 1
House Dems - 277 Reps - 158
President - Jimmy Carter
1982 - Garn-St. Germain Depository Institutions Act Bill deregulates
thrifts almost entirely, allowing commercial lending and providing for a
new account to compete with money market mutual funds. This was a Reagan
administration initiative that passed with strong bi-partisan support.
Senate - Voice vote
House - 272 - 91
Composition of Congress
Senate Dems - 46 Reps - 53 Other - 1
House Dems - 242 Reps - 192 Other - 1
President Ronald Reagan
1987 - FSLIC Insolvency GAO declares the deposit insurance fund of the
savings and loan industry to be insolvent as a result of mounting
institutional failures.
1989 - Financial Institutions Reform and Recovery Act Act abolishes the
Federal Home Loan Bank Board and FSLIC, transferring them to OTS and the
FDIC, respectively. The plan also creates the Resolution Trust
Corporation to resolve failed thrifts.
Senate - 91 - 8 vote
House - 320 - 97 Roll call vote
Composition of Congress
Senate Dems - 55 Reps - 45
House Dems - 260 Reps - 175
President George Herbert Walker Bush
1994 - Riegle-Neal Interstate Banking and Branching Efficiency Act This
bill eliminated previous restrictions on interstate banking and
branching. It passed with broad bi-partisan support.
Senate - Voice vote
House - Voice vote
Composition of Congress
Senate Dems - 57 Reps - 43
House Dems - 258 Reps - 176
President William J Clinton
1996 - Fed Reinterprets Glass-Steagall Federal Reserve reinterprets the
Glass-Steagall Act several times, eventually allowing bank holding
companies to earn up to 25 percent of their revenues in investment
banking.
1998 - Citicorp-Travelers Merger Citigroup, Inc. merges a commercial
bank with an insurance company that owns an investment bank to form the
world's largest financial services company.
1999 - Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act With support from Fed Chairman Greenspan,
Treasury Secretary Rubin and his successor Lawrence Summers, the bill
repeals the Glass-Steagall Act completely.
Yes No NV
Senate
Dem 38 7 0
Rep 52 1 2
House
Dem 155 51 5
Rep 207 5 10
Composition of Congress
Senate Dems - 45 Reps - 55
House Dems - 207 Reps - 226 Other - 2
President William J Clinton
2000 - Commodity Futures Modernization Act Passed with support from the
Clinton Administration, including Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers,
and bi-partisan support in Congress. The bill prevented the Commodity
Futures Trading Commission from regulating most over-the-counter
derivative contracts, including credit default swaps.
House - 292 - 60
Senate - 52 - 43
Composition of Congress
Senate Dems - 45 Reps - 55
House Dems - 211 Reps - 223
President William J Clinton
2004 - Voluntary Regulation The SEC proposes a system of voluntary
regulation under the Consolidated Supervised Entities program, allowing
investment banks to hold less capital in reserve and increase leverage.
2007, Subprime Mortgage Crisis Defaults on subprime loans send
shockwaves throughout the secondary mortgage market and the entire
financial system.
December 2007 - Term Auction Facility Special liquidity facility of the
Federal Reserve lends to depository institutions. Unlike lending through
the discount window, there is no public disclosure on loans made through
this facility.
March 2008 - Bear Stearns Collapse The investment bank is sold to JP
Morgan Chase with assistance from the Federal Reserve.
March 2008 - Primary Dealer Facilities Special lending facilities open
the discount window to investment banks, accepting a broad range of
asset-backed securities as collateral.
July 2008 - Housing and Economic Recovery Act Provides guarantees on new
mortgages to subprime borrowers and authorizes a new federal agency, the
FHFA, which eventually places Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac into
conservatorship.
September 2008 - Lehman Brothers Collapse Investment bank files for
Chapter 11 bankruptcy.
October 2008 - Emergency Economic Stabilization Act Bill authorizes the
Treasury to establish the Troubled Asset Relief Program to purchase
distressed mortgage-backed securities and inject capital into the
nation's banking system. Also increases deposit insurance from $100,000
to $250,000.
House Yes No NV
Dems - 172 63
Rep 91 108
Senate 74 25
Composition of Congress
Senate Dems - 49 Reps - 49 Other - 2
House Dems - 233 Reps - 198 Other - 4
President George W Bush
Late 2008 - Money Market Liquidity Facilities Federal Reserve
facilities created to facilitate the purchase of various money market
instruments.
March 2009 - Public-Private Investment Program Treasury Secretary
Timothy Geithner introduces his plan to subsidize the purchase of toxic
assets with government guarantees.
http://tinyurl.com/73awdy8
RD Sandman
Feb 10, 2015, 4:49:14 PM2/10/15
to
Sn...@smack.com wrote in news:vrukdal5l224e9reo...@4ax.com:
They got that from the Democratic playbook. Blame Bush.
Matt
Feb 10, 2015, 5:25:46 PM2/10/15
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RD Sandman <rdsandman[remove]comcast.net> wrote in
news:XnsA43D96C62...@216.166.97.131:
> Sn...@smack.com wrote in news:vrukdal5l224e9reof185t7vhusuj1ul3l@
4ax.com:
>
>> On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 19:21:46 +0000 (UTC), Matt
>> <mattt...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> A real budget must include debt service, dontcha think?
>>>
>>>They do. What is the Republican plan for doing so?
>>>
>>>Matt
>>
>> Two word answer:
>>
>> Blame Obama
>
>
> They got that from the Democratic playbook. Blame Bush.
Who got it from the Republican playbook .. blame Clinton.
>
>> On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 19:21:46 +0000 (UTC), Matt
>> <mattt...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> A real budget must include debt service, dontcha think?
>>>
>>>They do. What is the Republican plan for doing so?
>>>
>>>Matt
>>
>> Two word answer:
>>
>> Blame Obama
>
>
> They got that from the Democratic playbook. Blame Bush.
You can go back a ways, to Reagan, Ford, Nixon...
But the question remains.. what are the Republicans going to do about
it?
Why are bills repealing Obamacare and banning abortion more important
than the deficit, which we heard was the #1 priority for years.
Matt
max headroom
Feb 10, 2015, 5:28:22 PM2/10/15
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Klaus Schadenfreude
Feb 10, 2015, 8:11:59 PM2/10/15
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On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 14:42:09 -0700, Sn...@smack.com wrote:
>On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 11:50:19 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
><Klausscha...@gmx.com> wrote:
>
>>>> One wonders what Dudu is smoking so early in the morning.....
>>>
>>>Particularly when he supports Obama and who does he think bought and paid
>>>for him?
>>>
>>
>On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 11:50:19 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
><Klausscha...@gmx.com> wrote:
>
>>>> One wonders what Dudu is smoking so early in the morning.....
>>>
>>>Particularly when he supports Obama and who does he think bought and paid
>>>for him?
>>>
>>
>>It's time for Dudu to strap some explosives around his chest, climb
>>the White House fence, and save us all.
>>
>>"In reality, I'm trying to save you all."
>>-Deep Dudu
>>the White House fence, and save us all.
>>
>>"In reality, I'm trying to save you all."
>>-Deep Dudu
>Getting fucked year after year by Obama and all the rest of the good
>guys--(without vaseline) must be pretty hard, Shitter-in-Pantzen
Once again, Gary's anal-oriented post reveals a lot more than he
>guys--(without vaseline) must be pretty hard, Shitter-in-Pantzen
intended.
Besides actually BEING one, what is it about fat liberal assholes like
yourself, Gary? Your fascination with the American Anus and its issue
seems to consume you.
You're a perfect example of contemporary liberal thought.
[chuckle]
Klaus Schadenfreude
Feb 10, 2015, 8:27:41 PM2/10/15
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that he's into the, um, discomfort aspect as well.
Kinda weird how when the topic turns to gun control. Gary Roselles
starts thinking of painful anal gang sex.
http://klaus.webege.com/dudu/GarysGunIssue.jpg
Sn...@smack.com
Feb 10, 2015, 11:24:04 PM2/10/15
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On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 17:11:55 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<Klausscha...@gmx.com> wrote:
>>Getting fucked year after year by Obama and all the rest of the good
>>guys--(without vaseline) must be pretty hard, Shitter-in-Pantzen
>
>Once again, Gary's anal-oriented post reveals a lot more than he
>intended.
Once again you're caught with pants down.
<Klausscha...@gmx.com> wrote:
>>Getting fucked year after year by Obama and all the rest of the good
>>guys--(without vaseline) must be pretty hard, Shitter-in-Pantzen
>
>Once again, Gary's anal-oriented post reveals a lot more than he
>intended.
SNICKER
Mattb.
Feb 10, 2015, 11:34:14 PM2/10/15
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Mattb.
Feb 10, 2015, 11:41:51 PM2/10/15
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Gary is again thinking of boys under 12. Lorraine must be so proud.
>
>SNICKER
max headroom
Feb 10, 2015, 11:43:13 PM2/10/15
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Sn...@smack.com <Sn...@smack.com> wrote in news:famldapt8tvsj3bvp...@4ax.com:
Boi, you just can't help yourself, can you?
Klaus Schadenfreude
Feb 11, 2015, 6:32:43 AM2/11/15
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>>>On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 11:50:19 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
>>><Klausscha...@gmx.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> One wonders what Dudu is smoking so early in the morning.....
>>>>>
>>>>>Particularly when he supports Obama and who does he think bought and paid
>>>>>for him?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>It's time for Dudu to strap some explosives around his chest, climb
>>>>the White House fence, and save us all.
>>>>
>>>>"In reality, I'm trying to save you all."
>>>>-Deep Dudu
>>
>>><Klausscha...@gmx.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> One wonders what Dudu is smoking so early in the morning.....
>>>>>
>>>>>Particularly when he supports Obama and who does he think bought and paid
>>>>>for him?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>It's time for Dudu to strap some explosives around his chest, climb
>>>>the White House fence, and save us all.
>>>>
>>>>"In reality, I'm trying to save you all."
>>>>-Deep Dudu
>>
>>>Getting fucked year after year by Obama and all the rest of the good
>>>guys--(without vaseline) must be pretty hard, Shitter-in-Pantzen
>>
>>Once again, Gary's anal-oriented post reveals a lot more than he
>>intended.
>>
>>>guys--(without vaseline) must be pretty hard, Shitter-in-Pantzen
>>
>>Once again, Gary's anal-oriented post reveals a lot more than he
>>intended.
>>
>>Besides actually BEING one, what is it about fat liberal assholes like
>>yourself, Gary? Your fascination with the American Anus and its issue
>>seems to consume you.
>>
>>You're a perfect example of contemporary liberal thought.
>>
>>[chuckle]
>>
>>
>>yourself, Gary? Your fascination with the American Anus and its issue
>>seems to consume you.
>>
>>You're a perfect example of contemporary liberal thought.
>>
>>[chuckle]
>>
>>
>Once again you're caught with pants down.
>
>SNICKER
And even when your sickness is pointed out to you, you STILL obsess.
>
>SNICKER
What's the deal, Gary? Did your brothers abuse you when you were a
kid? Did they---
Oh my stars.
Don't tell me they're STILL abusing you?
[chuckle]
RD Sandman
Feb 12, 2015, 2:38:43 PM2/12/15
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Matt <mattt...@sprynet.com> wrote in news:mbe0g4$soj$1...@dont-email.me:
Nobody else in modern times has had to bear the blame for everything from
failed foreign policy to burnt toast in the morning like Bush has. Even
for things that were bipartisan.
failed foreign policy to burnt toast in the morning like Bush has. Even
for things that were bipartisan.
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