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Rudy Canoza
Jun 2, 2015, 8:35:29 PM6/2/15
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On 6/2/2015 4:56 PM, wien9al...@gmail.com wrote:
> My guess is that there were some other causes for that Clinton boom, that it was NOT because of the tax hike!
It was not due to the tax hike. The economy came out of recession
almost two full years (22 months) before Clinton was elected.
Unemployment continued to rise until June 1992, but then began falling
steadily. One reason the rate kept rising even after growth resumed is
that the labor force participation rate rose sharply at the end of 1991
through the first half of 1992. That's because people without work were
getting the signal that the economy was recovering and they came back
into the labor market.
Clinton himself is on record saying he raised taxes "too much," meaning
growth would have been more robust had he raised them less. That's an
admission that higher taxes dampened the boom rather than causing it.
> My guess is that there were some other causes for that Clinton boom, that it was NOT because of the tax hike!
It was not due to the tax hike. The economy came out of recession
almost two full years (22 months) before Clinton was elected.
Unemployment continued to rise until June 1992, but then began falling
steadily. One reason the rate kept rising even after growth resumed is
that the labor force participation rate rose sharply at the end of 1991
through the first half of 1992. That's because people without work were
getting the signal that the economy was recovering and they came back
into the labor market.
Clinton himself is on record saying he raised taxes "too much," meaning
growth would have been more robust had he raised them less. That's an
admission that higher taxes dampened the boom rather than causing it.
Rudy Canoza
Jun 2, 2015, 9:28:47 PM6/2/15
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On 6/2/2015 5:54 PM, hal lillywhite wrote:
> And don't forget the dot com (.com) boom that set the economy on fire. That was a temporary balloon but it made Clinton look good. The balloon popped after he left office.
>
It popped in his final year in office. Cost me a bunch in disappeared
pension plan value, too. I wasn't invested in any dot.com companies,
but I was heavily invested in a lot of older high-tech companies whose
sales had been inflated by selling to the dot.coms: Oracle, Sun, IBM,
Microsoft. Those companies all survived (Sun later acquired by Oracle),
but their stocks, particularly Oracle and Sun, took a bath.
Anyway, the key point is that the tax hikes of 1993 in no way "caused"
the boom. The boom was robust enough that the tax hikes couldn't kill
it, although they dampened it some.
>
It popped in his final year in office. Cost me a bunch in disappeared
pension plan value, too. I wasn't invested in any dot.com companies,
but I was heavily invested in a lot of older high-tech companies whose
sales had been inflated by selling to the dot.coms: Oracle, Sun, IBM,
Microsoft. Those companies all survived (Sun later acquired by Oracle),
but their stocks, particularly Oracle and Sun, took a bath.
Anyway, the key point is that the tax hikes of 1993 in no way "caused"
the boom. The boom was robust enough that the tax hikes couldn't kill
it, although they dampened it some.
Sn...@smack.com
Jun 2, 2015, 11:23:10 PM6/2/15
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On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 17:35:27 -0700, Rudy Canoza
<LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>On 6/2/2015 4:56 PM, wien9al...@gmail.com wrote:
>> My guess is that there were some other causes for that Clinton boom, that it was NOT because of the tax hike!
>
>It was not due to the tax hike. The economy came out of recession
>almost two full years (22 months) before Clinton was elected.
Clinton fought the core of republican crap
<LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>On 6/2/2015 4:56 PM, wien9al...@gmail.com wrote:
>> My guess is that there were some other causes for that Clinton boom, that it was NOT because of the tax hike!
>
>It was not due to the tax hike. The economy came out of recession
>almost two full years (22 months) before Clinton was elected.
He paid down the debt---meaning he spent less than congress budgeted
REmember: Since the 90's---congress has been CONTROLLED by
republicans---one way or other (majority does NOT mean control)
Sn...@smack.com
Jun 2, 2015, 11:24:36 PM6/2/15
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On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 18:28:43 -0700, Rudy Canoza
<LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>Anyway, the key point is that the tax hikes of 1993 in no way "caused"
>the boom. The boom was robust enough that the tax hikes couldn't kill
>it, although they dampened it some.
The massive loss of revenue (republican caused) created the massive
<LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>Anyway, the key point is that the tax hikes of 1993 in no way "caused"
>the boom. The boom was robust enough that the tax hikes couldn't kill
>it, although they dampened it some.
debt we have.
The GOP has had CONTROL of legislation for decades----using
historically high filibusters to refuse tax reform
Rudy Canoza
Jun 2, 2015, 11:25:32 PM6/2/15
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On 6/2/2015 8:23 PM, Sn...@smack.com wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 17:35:27 -0700, Rudy Canoza
> <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>
>> On 6/2/2015 4:56 PM, wien9al...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> My guess is that there were some other causes for that Clinton boom, that it was NOT because of the tax hike!
>>
>> It was not due to the tax hike. The economy came out of recession
>> almost two full years (22 months) before Clinton was elected.
>
> Clinton fought the core of republican crap
Clinton is seen as a somewhat successful president only because the
> On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 17:35:27 -0700, Rudy Canoza
> <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>
>> On 6/2/2015 4:56 PM, wien9al...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> My guess is that there were some other causes for that Clinton boom, that it was NOT because of the tax hike!
>>
>> It was not due to the tax hike. The economy came out of recession
>> almost two full years (22 months) before Clinton was elected.
>
> Clinton fought the core of republican crap
Republicans made him one. If Clinton hadn't signed the second welfare
reform bill - after he vetoed the first one - and signed the
Gramm-Leach-Bliley act, which brought our banking environment in line
with Europeans', he would be seen as a massive failure.
Rudy Canoza
Jun 2, 2015, 11:26:34 PM6/2/15
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On 6/2/2015 8:24 PM, Sn...@smack.com wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 18:28:43 -0700, Rudy Canoza
> <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>
>> Anyway, the key point is that the tax hikes of 1993 in no way "caused"
>> the boom. The boom was robust enough that the tax hikes couldn't kill
>> it, although they dampened it some.
>
> The massive loss of revenue (republican caused)
No.
> On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 18:28:43 -0700, Rudy Canoza
> <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>
>> Anyway, the key point is that the tax hikes of 1993 in no way "caused"
>> the boom. The boom was robust enough that the tax hikes couldn't kill
>> it, although they dampened it some.
>
> The massive loss of revenue (republican caused)
> The GOP has had CONTROL of legislation for decades
AC//DC
Jun 2, 2015, 11:55:15 PM6/2/15
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On 6/2/2015 9:23 PM, Sn...@smack.com wrote:
> Clinton fought the core
You sad-faced old section 8 schmuck.
http://www.leadoperahouse.org/uploads/1/0/8/4/10845488/3124549_orig.jpg
> Clinton fought the core
You sad-faced old section 8 schmuck.
http://www.leadoperahouse.org/uploads/1/0/8/4/10845488/3124549_orig.jpg
AC//DC
Jun 2, 2015, 11:55:31 PM6/2/15
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Clave
Jun 3, 2015, 12:01:33 AM6/3/15
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"Rudy Canoza" <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote in message
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> On 6/2/2015 8:23 PM, Sn...@smack.com wrote:
>> On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 17:35:27 -0700, Rudy Canoza
>> <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/2/2015 4:56 PM, wien9al...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> My guess is that there were some other causes for that Clinton boom,
>>>> that it was NOT because of the tax hike!
>>>
>>> It was not due to the tax hike. The economy came out of recession
>>> almost two full years (22 months) before Clinton was elected.
>>
>> Clinton fought the core of republican crap
>
> Clinton is seen as a somewhat successful president only because the
> Republicans made him one...
>> On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 17:35:27 -0700, Rudy Canoza
>> <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/2/2015 4:56 PM, wien9al...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> My guess is that there were some other causes for that Clinton boom,
>>>> that it was NOT because of the tax hike!
>>>
>>> It was not due to the tax hike. The economy came out of recession
>>> almost two full years (22 months) before Clinton was elected.
>>
>> Clinton fought the core of republican crap
>
> Clinton is seen as a somewhat successful president only because the
No, Clinton was successful IN SPITE OF the Republicans.
AC//DC
Jun 3, 2015, 12:03:56 AM6/3/15
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On 6/2/2015 10:04 PM, Clave wrote:
> Clinton was successful
In getting us ATTACKED.
YOUR treason will be your undoing, make book on it.
http://www.infowars.com/saved%20pages/Prior_Knowledge/Clinton_let_bin_laden.htm
President Clinton and his national security team ignored several
opportunities to capture Osama bin Laden and his terrorist associates,
including one as late as last year.
I know because I negotiated more than one of the opportunities.
From 1996 to 1998, I opened unofficial channels between Sudan and the
Clinton administration. I met with officials in both countries,
including Clinton, U.S. National Security Advisor Samuel R. "Sandy"
Berger and Sudan's president and intelligence chief. President Omar
Hassan Ahmed Bashir, who wanted terrorism sanctions against Sudan
lifted, offered the arrest and extradition of Bin Laden and detailed
intelligence data about the global networks constructed by Egypt's
Islamic Jihad, Iran's Hezbollah and the Palestinian Hamas.
Among those in the networks were the two hijackers who piloted
commercial airliners into the World Trade Center.
The silence of the Clinton administration in responding to these offers
was deafening.
As an American Muslim and a political supporter of Clinton, I feel now,
as I argued with Clinton and Berger then, that their counter-terrorism
policies fueled the rise of Bin Laden from an ordinary man to a
Hydra-like monster.
Realizing the growing problem with Bin Laden, Bashir sent key
intelligence officials to the U.S. in February 1996.
The Sudanese offered to arrest Bin Laden and extradite him to Saudi
Arabia or, barring that, to "baby-sit" him--monitoring all his
activities and associates.
But Saudi officials didn't want their home-grown terrorist back where he
might plot to overthrow them.
In May 1996, the Sudanese capitulated to U.S. pressure and asked Bin
Laden to leave, despite their feeling that he could be monitored better
in Sudan than elsewhere.
Bin Laden left for Afghanistan, taking with him Ayman Zawahiri,
considered by the U.S. to be the chief planner of the Sept. 11 attacks;
Mamdouh Mahmud Salim, who traveled frequently to Germany to obtain
electronic equipment for Al Qaeda; Wadih El-Hage, Bin Laden's personal
secretary and roving emissary, now serving a life sentence in the U.S.
for his role in the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings in Tanzania and Kenya;
and Fazul Abdullah Mohammed and Saif Adel, also accused of carrying out
the embassy attacks.
Some of these men are now among the FBI's 22 most-wanted terrorists.
The two men who allegedly piloted the planes into the twin towers,
Mohamed Atta and Marwan Al-Shehhi, prayed in the same Hamburg mosque as
did Salim and Mamoun Darkazanli, a Syrian trader who managed Salim's
bank accounts and whose assets are frozen.
Important data on each had been compiled by the Sudanese.
But U.S. authorities repeatedly turned the data away, first in February
1996; then again that August, when at my suggestion Sudan's religious
ideologue, Hassan Turabi, wrote directly to Clinton; then again in April
1997, when I persuaded Bashir to invite the FBI to come to Sudan and
view the data; and finally in February 1998, when Sudan's intelligence
chief, Gutbi al-Mahdi, wrote directly to the FBI.
Gutbi had shown me some of Sudan's data during a three-hour meeting in
Khartoum in October 1996. When I returned to Washington, I told Berger
and his specialist for East Africa, Susan Rice, about the data
available. They said they'd get back to me. They never did. Neither did
they respond when Bashir made the offer directly. I believe they never
had any intention to engage Muslim countries--ally or not. Radical
Islam, for the administration, was a convenient national security threat.
And that was not the end of it. In July 2000--three months before the
deadly attack on the destroyer Cole in Yemen--I brought the White House
another plausible offer to deal with Bin Laden, by then known to be
involved in the embassy bombings. A senior counter-terrorism official
from one of the United States' closest Arab allies--an ally whose name I
am not free to divulge--approached me with the proposal after telling me
he was fed up with the antics and arrogance of U.S. counter-terrorism
officials.
The offer, which would have brought Bin Laden to the Arab country as the
first step of an extradition process that would eventually deliver him
to the U.S., required only that Clinton make a state visit there to
personally request Bin Laden's extradition. But senior Clinton officials
sabotaged the offer, letting it get caught up in internal politics
within the ruling family--Clintonian diplomacy at its best.
Clinton's failure to grasp the opportunity to unravel increasingly
organized extremists, coupled with Berger's assessments of their
potential to directly threaten the U.S., represents one of the most
serious foreign policy failures in American history.
*
Mansoor Ijaz, a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, is chairman
of a New York-based investment company.
> Clinton was successful
In getting us ATTACKED.
YOUR treason will be your undoing, make book on it.
http://www.infowars.com/saved%20pages/Prior_Knowledge/Clinton_let_bin_laden.htm
President Clinton and his national security team ignored several
opportunities to capture Osama bin Laden and his terrorist associates,
including one as late as last year.
I know because I negotiated more than one of the opportunities.
From 1996 to 1998, I opened unofficial channels between Sudan and the
Clinton administration. I met with officials in both countries,
including Clinton, U.S. National Security Advisor Samuel R. "Sandy"
Berger and Sudan's president and intelligence chief. President Omar
Hassan Ahmed Bashir, who wanted terrorism sanctions against Sudan
lifted, offered the arrest and extradition of Bin Laden and detailed
intelligence data about the global networks constructed by Egypt's
Islamic Jihad, Iran's Hezbollah and the Palestinian Hamas.
Among those in the networks were the two hijackers who piloted
commercial airliners into the World Trade Center.
The silence of the Clinton administration in responding to these offers
was deafening.
As an American Muslim and a political supporter of Clinton, I feel now,
as I argued with Clinton and Berger then, that their counter-terrorism
policies fueled the rise of Bin Laden from an ordinary man to a
Hydra-like monster.
Realizing the growing problem with Bin Laden, Bashir sent key
intelligence officials to the U.S. in February 1996.
The Sudanese offered to arrest Bin Laden and extradite him to Saudi
Arabia or, barring that, to "baby-sit" him--monitoring all his
activities and associates.
But Saudi officials didn't want their home-grown terrorist back where he
might plot to overthrow them.
In May 1996, the Sudanese capitulated to U.S. pressure and asked Bin
Laden to leave, despite their feeling that he could be monitored better
in Sudan than elsewhere.
Bin Laden left for Afghanistan, taking with him Ayman Zawahiri,
considered by the U.S. to be the chief planner of the Sept. 11 attacks;
Mamdouh Mahmud Salim, who traveled frequently to Germany to obtain
electronic equipment for Al Qaeda; Wadih El-Hage, Bin Laden's personal
secretary and roving emissary, now serving a life sentence in the U.S.
for his role in the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings in Tanzania and Kenya;
and Fazul Abdullah Mohammed and Saif Adel, also accused of carrying out
the embassy attacks.
Some of these men are now among the FBI's 22 most-wanted terrorists.
The two men who allegedly piloted the planes into the twin towers,
Mohamed Atta and Marwan Al-Shehhi, prayed in the same Hamburg mosque as
did Salim and Mamoun Darkazanli, a Syrian trader who managed Salim's
bank accounts and whose assets are frozen.
Important data on each had been compiled by the Sudanese.
But U.S. authorities repeatedly turned the data away, first in February
1996; then again that August, when at my suggestion Sudan's religious
ideologue, Hassan Turabi, wrote directly to Clinton; then again in April
1997, when I persuaded Bashir to invite the FBI to come to Sudan and
view the data; and finally in February 1998, when Sudan's intelligence
chief, Gutbi al-Mahdi, wrote directly to the FBI.
Gutbi had shown me some of Sudan's data during a three-hour meeting in
Khartoum in October 1996. When I returned to Washington, I told Berger
and his specialist for East Africa, Susan Rice, about the data
available. They said they'd get back to me. They never did. Neither did
they respond when Bashir made the offer directly. I believe they never
had any intention to engage Muslim countries--ally or not. Radical
Islam, for the administration, was a convenient national security threat.
And that was not the end of it. In July 2000--three months before the
deadly attack on the destroyer Cole in Yemen--I brought the White House
another plausible offer to deal with Bin Laden, by then known to be
involved in the embassy bombings. A senior counter-terrorism official
from one of the United States' closest Arab allies--an ally whose name I
am not free to divulge--approached me with the proposal after telling me
he was fed up with the antics and arrogance of U.S. counter-terrorism
officials.
The offer, which would have brought Bin Laden to the Arab country as the
first step of an extradition process that would eventually deliver him
to the U.S., required only that Clinton make a state visit there to
personally request Bin Laden's extradition. But senior Clinton officials
sabotaged the offer, letting it get caught up in internal politics
within the ruling family--Clintonian diplomacy at its best.
Clinton's failure to grasp the opportunity to unravel increasingly
organized extremists, coupled with Berger's assessments of their
potential to directly threaten the U.S., represents one of the most
serious foreign policy failures in American history.
*
Mansoor Ijaz, a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, is chairman
of a New York-based investment company.
Rudy Canoza
Jun 3, 2015, 12:53:16 AM6/3/15
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Clave
Jun 3, 2015, 1:08:52 AM6/3/15
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"Rudy Canoza" <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote in message
Then you were right.
Rudy Canoza
Jun 3, 2015, 1:25:43 AM6/3/15
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On 6/2/2015 10:11 PM, Clave wrote:
>
> "Rudy Canoza" <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote in message
> news:mkm15i$j50$3...@dont-email.me...
>> On 6/2/2015 9:04 PM, Clave wrote:
>>>
>>> "Rudy Canoza" <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote in message
>>> news:mkls11$5nu$4...@dont-email.me...
>>>> On 6/2/2015 8:23 PM, Sn...@smack.com wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 17:35:27 -0700, Rudy Canoza
>>>>> <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/2/2015 4:56 PM, wien9al...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> My guess is that there were some other causes for that Clinton
>>>>>>> boom, that it was NOT because of the tax hike!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was not due to the tax hike. The economy came out of recession
>>>>>> almost two full years (22 months) before Clinton was elected.
>>>>>
>>>>> Clinton fought the core of republican crap
>>>>
>>>> Clinton is seen as a somewhat successful president only because the
>>>> Republicans made him one...
>>>
>>> No, Clinton was successful
>>
>> BECAUSE OF the Republicans - just what I said.
>
> "Rudy Canoza" <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote in message
> news:mkm15i$j50$3...@dont-email.me...
>> On 6/2/2015 9:04 PM, Clave wrote:
>>>
>>> "Rudy Canoza" <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote in message
>>> news:mkls11$5nu$4...@dont-email.me...
>>>> On 6/2/2015 8:23 PM, Sn...@smack.com wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 17:35:27 -0700, Rudy Canoza
>>>>> <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/2/2015 4:56 PM, wien9al...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> My guess is that there were some other causes for that Clinton
>>>>>>> boom, that it was NOT because of the tax hike!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was not due to the tax hike. The economy came out of recession
>>>>>> almost two full years (22 months) before Clinton was elected.
>>>>>
>>>>> Clinton fought the core of republican crap
>>>>
>>>> Clinton is seen as a somewhat successful president only because the
>>>> Republicans made him one...
>>>
>>> No, Clinton was successful
>>
>
> Then you were right.
I know...and so do you, fucktard.
Clave
Jun 3, 2015, 1:54:14 AM6/3/15
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"Rudy Canoza" <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote in message
> On 6/2/2015 10:11 PM, Clave wrote:
>>
>> "Rudy Canoza" <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote in message
>> news:mkm15i$j50$3...@dont-email.me...
>>> On 6/2/2015 9:04 PM, Clave wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Rudy Canoza" <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote in message
>>>> news:mkls11$5nu$4...@dont-email.me...
>>>>> On 6/2/2015 8:23 PM, Sn...@smack.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 17:35:27 -0700, Rudy Canoza
>>>>>> <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/2/2015 4:56 PM, wien9al...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> My guess is that there were some other causes for that Clinton
>>>>>>>> boom, that it was NOT because of the tax hike!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It was not due to the tax hike. The economy came out of recession
>>>>>>> almost two full years (22 months) before Clinton was elected.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Clinton fought the core of republican crap
>>>>>
>>>>> Clinton is seen as a somewhat successful president only because the
>>>>> Republicans made him one...
>>>>
>>>> No, Clinton was successful
>>>
>>> IN SPITE OF the Republicans - just what I said.
>>
>> "Rudy Canoza" <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote in message
>> news:mkm15i$j50$3...@dont-email.me...
>>> On 6/2/2015 9:04 PM, Clave wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Rudy Canoza" <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote in message
>>>> news:mkls11$5nu$4...@dont-email.me...
>>>>> On 6/2/2015 8:23 PM, Sn...@smack.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 17:35:27 -0700, Rudy Canoza
>>>>>> <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/2/2015 4:56 PM, wien9al...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> My guess is that there were some other causes for that Clinton
>>>>>>>> boom, that it was NOT because of the tax hike!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It was not due to the tax hike. The economy came out of recession
>>>>>>> almost two full years (22 months) before Clinton was elected.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Clinton fought the core of republican crap
>>>>>
>>>>> Clinton is seen as a somewhat successful president only because the
>>>>> Republicans made him one...
>>>>
>>>> No, Clinton was successful
>>>
>>
>> Then you were right.
>
> I know...and so do you, fucktard.
Forging my posts is not a good look on you, Peanut.
>> Then you were right.
>
> I know...and so do you, fucktard.
Al Czervik
Jun 3, 2015, 2:07:10 AM6/3/15
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economy flourished.
Obama, like you, is a liar and an asshole.
Clave
Jun 3, 2015, 2:12:55 AM6/3/15
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"Al Czervik" <Caddys...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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<...>
> Clinton and Gingrich didn't agree but they worked together...
What childish, revisionist horseshit.
Speaking of childish:
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/pageviews/newt-gingrich-crybaby-famous-daily-news-cover-explained-blog-entry-1.1637386
Scout
Jun 3, 2015, 2:13:08 AM6/3/15
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<Sn...@smack.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 17:35:27 -0700, Rudy Canoza
> <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>
>>On 6/2/2015 4:56 PM, wien9al...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> My guess is that there were some other causes for that Clinton boom,
>>> that it was NOT because of the tax hike!
>>
>>It was not due to the tax hike. The economy came out of recession
>>almost two full years (22 months) before Clinton was elected.
>
> Clinton fought the core of republican crap
>
> He paid down the debt
He didn't pay down shit.
> <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>
>>On 6/2/2015 4:56 PM, wien9al...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> My guess is that there were some other causes for that Clinton boom,
>>> that it was NOT because of the tax hike!
>>
>>It was not due to the tax hike. The economy came out of recession
>>almost two full years (22 months) before Clinton was elected.
>
> Clinton fought the core of republican crap
>
> He paid down the debt
The debt increased under each year of his budgets.
Scout
Jun 3, 2015, 2:14:20 AM6/3/15
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<Sn...@smack.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 18:28:43 -0700, Rudy Canoza
> <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>
>>Anyway, the key point is that the tax hikes of 1993 in no way "caused"
>>the boom. The boom was robust enough that the tax hikes couldn't kill
>>it, although they dampened it some.
>
> The massive loss of revenue (republican caused) created the massive
> debt we have.
Wow, even thought the democrats were right there promoting and voting for
> <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>
>>Anyway, the key point is that the tax hikes of 1993 in no way "caused"
>>the boom. The boom was robust enough that the tax hikes couldn't kill
>>it, although they dampened it some.
>
> The massive loss of revenue (republican caused) created the massive
> debt we have.
the very things you claim caused the collapse....it's really only the
Republicans to blame.....and then you wonder why everyone considers you so
partisan as to be blind to reality.
Rudy Canoza
Jun 3, 2015, 2:19:43 AM6/3/15
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Clave
Jun 3, 2015, 2:24:54 AM6/3/15
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"Rudy Canoza" <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote in message
> On 6/2/2015 10:56 PM, Clave wrote:
<...>
>> Forging my posts is not a good look on you, Peanut.
>
LOL -- spoken like someone who's gotten the red-ass from me more than once.
I'll bet I know something that drives you even more barking nuts -- being
ignored.
Say good night, Gracie.
Al Czervik
Jun 3, 2015, 3:26:00 AM6/3/15
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On 6/2/2015 11:15 PM, Clave wrote:
>
> "Al Czervik" <Caddys...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:mkm5g4$ukd$1...@dont-email.me...
>
> <...>
>
>> Clinton and Gingrich didn't agree but they worked together...
>
> What childish, revisionist horseshit.
You say that because you are a liar and everyone knows it.
>
> "Al Czervik" <Caddys...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:mkm5g4$ukd$1...@dont-email.me...
>
> <...>
>
>> Clinton and Gingrich didn't agree but they worked together...
>
> What childish, revisionist horseshit.
Clinton and Gingrich spent 35 days in face-to-face negotiation. Obama
hasn't done that with Boehner because he's not a leader. He's an asshole
like you.
Clave
Jun 3, 2015, 3:39:24 AM6/3/15
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news:mkma3u$cv9$1...@dont-email.me...
> On 6/2/2015 11:15 PM, Clave wrote:
>>
>> "Al Czervik" <Caddys...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:mkm5g4$ukd$1...@dont-email.me...
>>
>> <...>
>>
>>> Clinton and Gingrich didn't agree but they worked together...
>>
>> What childish, revisionist horseshit.
>
> You say that because you are a liar and everyone knows it.
LOL -- you snipped the link that proved me right.
>>
>> "Al Czervik" <Caddys...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:mkm5g4$ukd$1...@dont-email.me...
>>
>> <...>
>>
>>> Clinton and Gingrich didn't agree but they worked together...
>>
>> What childish, revisionist horseshit.
>
> You say that because you are a liar and everyone knows it.
2,898 murdered in Obama's organized communities
Jun 3, 2015, 6:42:26 AM6/3/15
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2,898 murdered in Obama's organized communities
Jun 3, 2015, 6:43:59 AM6/3/15
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Rudy Canoza
Jun 3, 2015, 9:48:42 AM6/3/15
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[followups vandalism by faggot theater lighting tech and impotent
fucktard repaired]
On 6/2/2015 11:27 PM, Fucktard whined:
>
> LOL -- spoken like someone who's kicked my faggoty ass yet again.
Indeed, impotent fucktard.
fucktard repaired]
On 6/2/2015 11:27 PM, Fucktard whined:
>
> "Rudy Canoza" <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote in message
> news:mkm67k$ul$1...@dont-email.me...
>> On 6/2/2015 10:56 PM, Clave wrote:
>>>
>>> "Rudy Canoza" <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote in message
> "Rudy Canoza" <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote in message
> news:mkm67k$ul$1...@dont-email.me...
>> On 6/2/2015 10:56 PM, Clave wrote:
>>>
>>> "Rudy Canoza" <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote in message
>>> news:mkm32c$neu$5...@dont-email.me...
>>>> On 6/2/2015 10:11 PM, Clave wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> On 6/2/2015 10:11 PM, Clave wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Rudy Canoza" <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote in message
>>>>> news:mkm15i$j50$3...@dont-email.me...
>>>>>> On 6/2/2015 9:04 PM, Clave wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/2/2015 9:04 PM, Clave wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Rudy Canoza" <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:mkls11$5nu$4...@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>>> On 6/2/2015 8:23 PM, Sn...@smack.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 17:35:27 -0700, Rudy Canoza
>>>>>>>>> <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/2/2015 4:56 PM, wien9al...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> My guess is that there were some other causes for that Clinton
>>>>>>>>>>> boom, that it was NOT because of the tax hike!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It was not due to the tax hike. The economy came out of recession
>>>>>>>>>> almost two full years (22 months) before Clinton was elected.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Clinton fought the core of republican crap
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Clinton is seen as a somewhat successful president only because the
>>>>>>>> Republicans made him one...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, Clinton was successful
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IN SPITE OF the Republicans - just what I said.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then you were right.
>>>>
>>>> I know...and so do you, fucktard.
>>>
>>> Forging my posts
>>
>> Eat it raw, fucktard.
>>>>>>>> On 6/2/2015 8:23 PM, Sn...@smack.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 17:35:27 -0700, Rudy Canoza
>>>>>>>>> <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/2/2015 4:56 PM, wien9al...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> My guess is that there were some other causes for that Clinton
>>>>>>>>>>> boom, that it was NOT because of the tax hike!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It was not due to the tax hike. The economy came out of recession
>>>>>>>>>> almost two full years (22 months) before Clinton was elected.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Clinton fought the core of republican crap
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Clinton is seen as a somewhat successful president only because the
>>>>>>>> Republicans made him one...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, Clinton was successful
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IN SPITE OF the Republicans - just what I said.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then you were right.
>>>>
>>>> I know...and so do you, fucktard.
>>>
>>> Forging my posts
>>
>
> LOL -- spoken like someone who's kicked my faggoty ass yet again.
Indeed, impotent fucktard.
Rudy Canoza
Jun 3, 2015, 10:29:25 AM6/3/15
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Al Czervik
Jun 3, 2015, 10:47:26 AM6/3/15
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On 6/3/2015 12:42 AM, Clave wrote:
>
> "Al Czervik" <Caddys...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:mkma3u$cv9$1...@dont-email.me...
>> On 6/2/2015 11:15 PM, Clave wrote:
>>>
>>> "Al Czervik" <Caddys...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:mkm5g4$ukd$1...@dont-email.me...
>>>
>>> <...>
>>>
>>>> Clinton and Gingrich didn't agree but they worked together...
>>>
>>> What childish, revisionist horseshit.
>>
>> You say that because you are a liar and everyone knows it.
>
> LOL -- you snipped the link that proved me right.
I didn't say they like each other or even treated each other and didn't
>
> "Al Czervik" <Caddys...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:mkma3u$cv9$1...@dont-email.me...
>> On 6/2/2015 11:15 PM, Clave wrote:
>>>
>>> "Al Czervik" <Caddys...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:mkm5g4$ukd$1...@dont-email.me...
>>>
>>> <...>
>>>
>>>> Clinton and Gingrich didn't agree but they worked together...
>>>
>>> What childish, revisionist horseshit.
>>
>> You say that because you are a liar and everyone knows it.
>
> LOL -- you snipped the link that proved me right.
throw jabs at each other.
They had 35 days of face-to-face negotiations. Obama and Boehner may
have had 35 minutes.
That is why the workforce participation is 3.3% less than under Bush and
20M more people are on food stamps.
MATRIX
Jun 3, 2015, 11:48:46 AM6/3/15
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On 6/2/2015 11:23 PM, Sn...@smack.com wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 17:35:27 -0700, Rudy Canoza
> <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>
>> On 6/2/2015 4:56 PM, wien9al...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> My guess is that there were some other causes for that Clinton boom, that it was NOT because of the tax hike!
>>
>> It was not due to the tax hike. The economy came out of recession
>> almost two full years (22 months) before Clinton was elected.
>
> Clinton fought the core of republican crap
Clinton hid in the closet with interns....
> On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 17:35:27 -0700, Rudy Canoza
> <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>
>> On 6/2/2015 4:56 PM, wien9al...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> My guess is that there were some other causes for that Clinton boom, that it was NOT because of the tax hike!
>>
>> It was not due to the tax hike. The economy came out of recession
>> almost two full years (22 months) before Clinton was elected.
>
> Clinton fought the core of republican crap
I don't blame him I feel sorry for him, he didn't have enough backbone
to kick Hillary out the back door to the curb.
Bill was just another spineless Liberal.
--
I know what you are looking for.
MATRIX
Jun 3, 2015, 12:22:59 PM6/3/15
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AC//DC
Jun 3, 2015, 12:41:47 PM6/3/15
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AC//DC
Jun 3, 2015, 12:44:07 PM6/3/15
to
On 6/3/2015 12:15 AM, Clave wrote:
>
> "Al Czervik" <Caddys...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:mkm5g4$ukd$1...@dont-email.me...
>
> <...>
>
>> Clinton and Gingrich didn't agree but they worked together...
>
> What childish,
STFU you stinking bivalve social welfare leech.
>
> "Al Czervik" <Caddys...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:mkm5g4$ukd$1...@dont-email.me...
>
> <...>
>
>> Clinton and Gingrich didn't agree but they worked together...
>
> What childish,
You need to be put down like a rabid dog.
AC//DC
Jun 3, 2015, 12:45:58 PM6/3/15
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On 6/3/2015 12:27 AM, Clave wrote:
> LOL -- spoken like someone who's gotten the red-ass from me more than once.
Whose arse haven't you been porking, you bivalve faggot leftard?
> LOL -- spoken like someone who's gotten the red-ass from me more than once.
AC//DC
Jun 3, 2015, 12:46:23 PM6/3/15
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On 6/3/2015 1:42 AM, Clave wrote:
>
> "Al Czervik" <Caddys...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:mkma3u$cv9$1...@dont-email.me...
>> On 6/2/2015 11:15 PM, Clave wrote:
>>>
>>> "Al Czervik" <Caddys...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:mkm5g4$ukd$1...@dont-email.me...
>>>
>>> <...>
>>>
>>>> Clinton and Gingrich didn't agree but they worked together...
>>>
>>> What childish, revisionist horseshit.
>>
>> You say that because you are a liar and everyone knows it.
>
> LOL -- you snipped
You DIE, soon!
>
> "Al Czervik" <Caddys...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:mkma3u$cv9$1...@dont-email.me...
>> On 6/2/2015 11:15 PM, Clave wrote:
>>>
>>> "Al Czervik" <Caddys...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:mkm5g4$ukd$1...@dont-email.me...
>>>
>>> <...>
>>>
>>>> Clinton and Gingrich didn't agree but they worked together...
>>>
>>> What childish, revisionist horseshit.
>>
>> You say that because you are a liar and everyone knows it.
>
> LOL -- you snipped
AC//DC
Jun 3, 2015, 12:47:44 PM6/3/15
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AC//DC
Jun 3, 2015, 1:03:08 PM6/3/15
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On 6/3/2015 12:15 AM, Clave wrote:
> Speaking of childish:
Speaking of your imminent demise.
Clave
Jun 3, 2015, 1:08:19 PM6/3/15
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"MATRIX" <Mat...@Localhost.neo> wrote in message
news:CRFbx.172882$233....@fx26.iad...
high approvals, you tell me.
MATRIX
Jun 3, 2015, 1:14:55 PM6/3/15
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damages.
And if that wasn't bad enough, Hillary wouldn't divorce him, man that
had to sting. he couldn't even get rid of that old WITCH.
Poor guy I feel sorry for him he got a raw deal, all for wiggling his
little willie. I wouldn't have wanted to be in his shoes for any amount
of money he managed to steal or sellout the nation to get.
AC//DC
Jun 3, 2015, 1:17:14 PM6/3/15
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Clave
Jun 3, 2015, 1:47:57 PM6/3/15
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"MATRIX" <Mat...@Localhost.neo> wrote in message
> On 6/3/2015 1:10 PM, Clave wrote:
>>
>> "MATRIX" <Mat...@Localhost.neo> wrote in message
>> news:CRFbx.172882$233....@fx26.iad...
>>> On 6/3/2015 12:04 AM, Clave wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Rudy Canoza" <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote in message
>>>> news:mkls11$5nu$4...@dont-email.me...
>>>>> On 6/2/2015 8:23 PM, Sn...@smack.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 17:35:27 -0700, Rudy Canoza
>>>>>> <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/2/2015 4:56 PM, wien9al...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> My guess is that there were some other causes for that Clinton
>>>>>>>> boom, that it was NOT because of the tax hike!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It was not due to the tax hike. The economy came out of recession
>>>>>>> almost two full years (22 months) before Clinton was elected.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Clinton fought the core of republican crap
>>>>>
>>>>> Clinton is seen as a somewhat successful president only because the
>>>>> Republicans made him one...
>>>>
>>>> No, Clinton was successful IN SPITE OF the Republicans.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Clinton was impeached... how successful was that?
>>
>> Given that the Senate didn't convict, and that he left office with
>> record high approvals,
>>
> And guilty of perjury...
So now you're making up history? There was no indictment or even a plea
>>
>> "MATRIX" <Mat...@Localhost.neo> wrote in message
>> news:CRFbx.172882$233....@fx26.iad...
>>> On 6/3/2015 12:04 AM, Clave wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Rudy Canoza" <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote in message
>>>> news:mkls11$5nu$4...@dont-email.me...
>>>>> On 6/2/2015 8:23 PM, Sn...@smack.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 17:35:27 -0700, Rudy Canoza
>>>>>> <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/2/2015 4:56 PM, wien9al...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> My guess is that there were some other causes for that Clinton
>>>>>>>> boom, that it was NOT because of the tax hike!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It was not due to the tax hike. The economy came out of recession
>>>>>>> almost two full years (22 months) before Clinton was elected.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Clinton fought the core of republican crap
>>>>>
>>>>> Clinton is seen as a somewhat successful president only because the
>>>>> Republicans made him one...
>>>>
>>>> No, Clinton was successful IN SPITE OF the Republicans.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Clinton was impeached... how successful was that?
>>
>> Given that the Senate didn't convict, and that he left office with
>> record high approvals,
>>
> And guilty of perjury...
bargain.
Record-high approvals and a booming economy. Suck it.
AC//DC
Jun 3, 2015, 1:51:17 PM6/3/15
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On 6/3/2015 11:50 AM, Clave wrote:
>> And guilty of perjury...
>
> So now you're making up history? There was no indictment or
Fuck off and die you bivalve sludge-sucking vermion.
>> And guilty of perjury...
>
> So now you're making up history? There was no indictment or
http://www.landmarklegal.org/DesktopFrame.aspx?frame=LONGTEXT&itemid=347
WASHINGTON (AP) - The Supreme Court on Monday suspended former President
Clinton from practicing law before the high court and gave him 40 days
to say why he should not be permanently disbarred there.
MATRIX
Jun 3, 2015, 1:55:17 PM6/3/15
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possession and refrain from going to the movies.
If I had bought any orange hair dye then I'd dispose of it immediately....
then I'd call and get those meds adjusted.
These are just helpful hints... I'm NOT a doctor and I'm NOT suggesting
you do any of this but this is what I'd be doing if I were delusional.
AC//DC
Jun 3, 2015, 1:58:23 PM6/3/15
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http://0.tqn.com/d/np/kids-gross-hidden-pictures/p69-001.jpg
Clave
Jun 3, 2015, 1:59:36 PM6/3/15
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"MATRIX" <Mat...@Localhost.neo> wrote in message
You think he was indicted or pled guilty to perjury?
LOFL -- I'd like to see you try to prove it.
MATRIX
Jun 3, 2015, 2:16:24 PM6/3/15
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I said guilty of Perjury. That is why he paid and lost his law license
and paid his civil judgment to the person he was sued by.
You better go back and read up on Clinton and see what the meaning of
"is" is. Because I didn't say "indicted" you did. And *Grasshopper* you
don't seem to follow the teachings of your Master. Obi Wan Clinton told
you that it all hinges on the meaning of "is".
Now go wash your pink sheets and shave your head and say 100 times "I
did NOT have sex with... "that" woman or "that" one or that one or
["that one I'm married to... yuck"].
You're carrying those goal posts all over the field.
Clave
Jun 3, 2015, 2:25:18 PM6/3/15
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"MATRIX" <Mat...@Localhost.neo> wrote in message
"Perjury" is a legal concept that has a specific meaning, Peanut. So is
"guilty".
If Clinton didn't plead, or wasn't convicted, he's not guilty.
Sucks to be you.
AC//DC
Jun 3, 2015, 4:09:26 PM6/3/15
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On 6/3/2015 12:02 PM, Clave wrote:
> I'd like to see you try to prove it.
>
> I'd like to see you try to prove it.
>
AC//DC
Jun 3, 2015, 4:13:23 PM6/3/15
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On 6/3/2015 12:27 PM, Clave wrote:
>
> Sucks to be you.
>
> Sucks to be you.
Al Czervik
Jun 3, 2015, 4:57:22 PM6/3/15
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Republican congress, I'd say he was quite successful.
AC//DC
Jun 3, 2015, 5:33:18 PM6/3/15
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;-)
deep
Jun 3, 2015, 6:03:07 PM6/3/15
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unwinnable wars based on lies, trillions in debt, and a crashed
economy.
Al Czervik
Jun 3, 2015, 6:10:43 PM6/3/15
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ISIS has taken over because Obama created a void. 20M more are on food
stamps and the workforce participation rate is down 3.3%.
Bush added $5.8T. That is bad. However, Obama has added $6.2T with 2
more years to go. That is really, really crappy.
AC//DC
Jun 3, 2015, 6:12:46 PM6/3/15
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> Two unwinnable wars
Both were won.
Now Obama is losing them for us.
> based on lies,
No lies, period.
The Taliban were hosting bin laden.
Saddam was hosting terror training.
> trillions in debt
Which Obama has more than doubled.
> and a crashed economy.
Bush had ZERO to do with credit default swaps, you lying little asswart!
rcbr...@gmail.com
Jun 3, 2015, 6:42:29 PM6/3/15
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On Wednesday, June 3, 2015 at 3:03:07 PM UTC-7, deep wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 13:57:18 -0700, Al Czervik
> On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 13:57:18 -0700, Al Czervik
> wrote:
>
> >On 6/3/2015 10:10 AM, Clave wrote:
> >>
> >> "MATRIX" wrote in message
>
> >On 6/3/2015 10:10 AM, Clave wrote:
> >>
> >> news:CRFbx.172882$233....@fx26.iad...
> >>> On 6/3/2015 12:04 AM, Clave wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> "Rudy Canoza" wrote in message
> >>> On 6/3/2015 12:04 AM, Clave wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> news:mkls11$5nu$4...@dont-email.me...
> >>>>> On 6/2/2015 8:23 PM, Sn...@smack.com wrote:
> >>>>>> On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 17:35:27 -0700, Rudy Canoza
> >>>>> On 6/2/2015 8:23 PM, Sn...@smack.com wrote:
> >>>>>> On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 17:35:27 -0700, Rudy Canoza
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 6/2/2015 4:56 PM, wien9al...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>> My guess is that there were some other causes for that Clinton
> >>>>>>>> boom, that it was NOT because of the tax hike!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It was not due to the tax hike. The economy came out of recession
> >>>>>>> almost two full years (22 months) before Clinton was elected.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Clinton fought the core of republican crap
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Clinton is seen as a somewhat successful president only because the
> >>>>> Republicans made him one...
> >>>>
> >>>> No, Clinton was successful IN SPITE OF the Republicans.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> Clinton was impeached... how successful was that?
> >>
> >> Given that the Senate didn't convict, and that he left office with
> >> record high approvals, you tell me.
> >
> >And ushered in 8 years of a Republican President with 6 years of a
> >Republican congress, I'd say he was quite successful.
> >
> and look at how badly the Republicans fucked everything up. Two
> unwinnable wars based on lies,
The war in Afghanistan was based on lies?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 6/2/2015 4:56 PM, wien9al...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>> My guess is that there were some other causes for that Clinton
> >>>>>>>> boom, that it was NOT because of the tax hike!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It was not due to the tax hike. The economy came out of recession
> >>>>>>> almost two full years (22 months) before Clinton was elected.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Clinton fought the core of republican crap
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Clinton is seen as a somewhat successful president only because the
> >>>>> Republicans made him one...
> >>>>
> >>>> No, Clinton was successful IN SPITE OF the Republicans.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> Clinton was impeached... how successful was that?
> >>
> >> Given that the Senate didn't convict, and that he left office with
> >> record high approvals, you tell me.
> >
> >And ushered in 8 years of a Republican President with 6 years of a
> >Republican congress, I'd say he was quite successful.
> >
> and look at how badly the Republicans fucked everything up. Two
> unwinnable wars based on lies,
Al Czervik
Jun 3, 2015, 6:51:55 PM6/3/15
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On 6/3/2015 3:02 PM, deep wrote:
http://beforeitsnews.com/contributor/upload/254702/images/erin%20burnett%20thug%20new%20N%20word.jpg
deep
Jun 3, 2015, 7:13:01 PM6/3/15
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On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 15:10:39 -0700, Al Czervik
I would show you the graphs that prove you wrong but you will only be
confused with the squiggly lines.
confused with the squiggly lines.
AC//DC
Jun 3, 2015, 7:17:02 PM6/3/15
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https://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/histdebt_histo5.htm
09/30/2014 17,824,071,380,733.82
09/30/2013 16,738,183,526,697.32
09/30/2012 16,066,241,407,385.89
09/30/2011 14,790,340,328,557.15
09/30/2010 13,561,623,030,891.79
09/30/2009 11,909,829,003,511.75
09/30/2008 10,024,724,896,912.49
09/30/2007 9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 6,783,231,062,743.62
09/30/2002 6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 5,807,463,412,200.06
09/30/2000 5,674,178,209,886.86
Max Boot
Jun 3, 2015, 7:19:21 PM6/3/15
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Al Czervik
Jun 3, 2015, 7:21:49 PM6/3/15
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you with facts:
http://useconomy.about.com/od/usdebtanddeficit/p/US-Debt-by-President.htm
Al Czervik
Jun 3, 2015, 7:23:09 PM6/3/15
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AC//DC
Jun 3, 2015, 7:25:27 PM6/3/15
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Scout
Jun 4, 2015, 12:34:43 AM6/4/15
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"deep" wrote in message news:ne2vmahe6l37t0103...@4ax.com...
"Barack Obama - The debt grew the most dollar-wise during President Obama's
term. He added $6.167 trillion, a 53% increase, in six years. "
"George W. Bush - President Bush added the second greatest amount to the
debt, at $5.849 trillion. "
http://useconomy.about.com/od/usdebtanddeficit/p/US-Debt-by-President.htm
Because it seems his numbers are correct.
2,898 murdered in Obama's organized communities
Jun 4, 2015, 4:27:05 AM6/4/15
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2,898 murdered in Obama's organized communities
Jun 4, 2015, 4:29:06 AM6/4/15
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On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 15:51:53 -0700, Al Czervik
Looks like a scene from 'Planet of the Apes'.
Klaus Schadenfreude
Jun 4, 2015, 6:28:23 AM6/4/15
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But.... but.... but....
:Oh, and while we're on the subject,
:does that mean when you make a claim
:you need to provide proof?
"I always do."
-Deep Dudu
Message-ID: <54vtr99o37mu1p20k...@4ax.com>
"I've referenced everything I say. You should try it."
-Deep Dudu
"I've provided links many times to anything I've ever claimed. It's
not my fault you are psychologically capable of accepting the truth."
-Deep Dudu
"I give you proof every time you require it."
-Deep Dudu
"I've provided links many times to anything I've ever claimed. It's
not my fault you are psychologically capable of accepting the truth."
-Deep Dudu
MATRIX
Jun 4, 2015, 10:33:08 AM6/4/15
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and Senate when they crashed the mortgage markets and Obama was in
office when the economy finally crashed. There was no economic problem
until Democrats/ACORN lied about things like racism in the mortgage
markets was a crisis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p58KzMMpILY
Clinton Explains why he launched attack on Iraq and Saddam Hussein.
*A CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr1M1T2Y314
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebWJ892h5dA
Democrats told us there is NO mortgage crisis
If there was no crisis how did Republicans create the collapse,
according to Democrats there was no collapse. Because they were hiding
their own screw-up to try ignore it like they did Benghazi and the IRS
targeting the TEA PARTY.... it's the Democrat way. They lie and hide
their failure with more lies.
deep
Jun 4, 2015, 10:36:58 AM6/4/15
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On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 10:32:53 -0400, MATRIX <Mat...@Localhost.neo>
wrote:
>9/11 was real enough and Democrats were in office and running the House
>and Senate when they crashed the mortgage markets and Obama was in
>office when the economy finally crashed. There was no economic problem
>until Democrats/ACORN lied about things like racism in the mortgage
>markets was a crisis.
You're insane. STFU. You aren't even worth the time to bitch slap
you with the truth so piss off.
wrote:
>9/11 was real enough and Democrats were in office and running the House
>and Senate when they crashed the mortgage markets and Obama was in
>office when the economy finally crashed. There was no economic problem
>until Democrats/ACORN lied about things like racism in the mortgage
>markets was a crisis.
you with the truth so piss off.
deep
Jun 4, 2015, 10:37:51 AM6/4/15
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Klaus Schadenfreude
Jun 4, 2015, 11:05:06 AM6/4/15
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verifiable facts.
Al Czervik
Jun 4, 2015, 12:28:13 PM6/4/15
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documented lies can be updated.
RD Sandman
Jun 4, 2015, 12:48:28 PM6/4/15
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deep wrote in news:bko0nal28a1dmjdar...@4ax.com:
Well, let's see. Oh, right, Obama declared it as the "right war" when he
escalated it.
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escalated it.
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rcbr...@gmail.com
Jun 4, 2015, 3:35:12 PM6/4/15
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On Thursday, June 4, 2015 at 7:37:51 AM UTC-7, deep wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Jun 2015 15:42:28 -0700 (PDT), "r_c_...@hushmail.com"
> On Wed, 3 Jun 2015 15:42:28 -0700 (PDT), "r_c_...@hushmail.com"
2,898 murdered in Obama's organized communities
Jun 5, 2015, 4:04:08 AM6/5/15
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On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 08:36:47 -0600, deep wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMsaFUDL9EM
One Party System
Jun 5, 2015, 7:57:48 AM6/5/15
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deep wrote in news:hio0na57btcfj757m...@4ax.com:
http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/current
Check it out. Then hide.
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There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient
to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an
easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to
make themselves prominent before the public.
Booker T. Washington
Check it out. Then hide.
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There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient
to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an
easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to
make themselves prominent before the public.
Booker T. Washington
Scout
Jun 5, 2015, 12:53:15 PM6/5/15
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"deep" wrote in message news:hio0na57btcfj757m...@4ax.com...
resort to childish insults and stomp back to his delusions.
Scout
Jun 5, 2015, 12:59:09 PM6/5/15
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"RD Sandman" <rdsandman[remove]comcast.net> wrote in message
news:XnsA4AF63CCC...@216.166.97.131...
Have to say, seems Dudu's faith in Obama is dropping like a rock.
Scout
Jun 5, 2015, 1:00:11 PM6/5/15
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"r_c_...@hushmail.com" <rcbr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:2029c639-7d4b-4a9e...@googlegroups.com...
to fighting it?
RD Sandman
Jun 5, 2015, 1:28:13 PM6/5/15
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"Scout" <me4...@vcenturylink.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
news:mkskei$m6a$1...@dont-email.me:
No, I don't think so. He will hang in there and drop like a rock with
him.
news:mkskei$m6a$1...@dont-email.me:
him.
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