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Centriole biogenesis, and the duplication cycle, amazing evidence of design
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Otangelo Grasso
May 26, 2016, 4:04:53 PM5/26/16
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Centriole biogenesis, and the duplication cycle, amazing evidence of design
The duplication of eukaryotic cells is a all fine-tuned biochemical processes that depends on the precise structural arrangement of the cellular components. Mitotic cell division is the most fundamental task of all living cells. Cells have intricate and tightly regulated machinery to ensure that mitosis occurs with appropriate frequency and high fidelity.
The only way to make a new cell is to duplicate a cell that already exists. A cell reproduces by performing an orderly sequence of events in which it duplicates its contents and then divides in two. This cycle of duplication and division, known as the cell cycle, is the essential mechanism by which all living things reproduce. Dividing cells must coordinate their growth. A complex network of regulatory proteins trigger the different events of the cycle.
During the cell cylce, eighteen different regulators are required, which order and coordinate the process. Each of these regulators are absolutely essential. If one is missing, the cell cycle is not completed and, the cell cannot duplicate. Any of these regulators have only use if fully integrated in the process. They have no use or function by themself. This makes replication a irreducible , interdependent process.
Centrosomes play a key role in organizing the microtubule network of the cell, most notably the mitotic spindle during cell division .
The choreography of microtubules, centrosomes and chromosomes during mitosis and meiosis is beautifully designed, and uses finely regulated and synchronized movements.
The centrosome is a structure, consisting of a pair of cylindrical microtubule-based organelles called centrioles , embedded in an amorphous network of proteins known collectively as Pericentriolar Material (PCM). Microtubules (MTs) originate from the PCM. The PCM comprises a porous structural scaffold onto which γ-tubulin and other soluble components from the cytoplasm are loaded. Centrosome growth is an aggregation process of a condensed phase of PCM components, which segregate from the cytosol. The aggregation process leads to a centrosome phase that coexists with the cytosol and does rearrange internally. This implies that the centrosome phase is viscoelastic, such that on long timescales it behaves as a liquid-like material.
Cep192 is a pericentriolar protein that accumulates at centrosomes during mitosis and is required for PCM recruitment, centriole duplication, microtubule nucleation, and centrosome maturation.
Centrioles are among the most beautiful of biological structures. How their highly conserved nine-fold symmetry is generated is a question that has intrigued cell biologists for decades.
Centrioles are present in all eukaryotic species that form cilia and flagella, but are absent from higher plants and higher fungi which do not have cilia.
It seems likely that they have the primary purpose of growing cilia and flagella, which are important sensory and motile organelles found in almost all cells of the human body. These organelles have many important functions in cells, and their dysfunction has been linked to a plethora of human pathologies, ranging from cancer to microcephaly to obesity. Great progress has been made recently in understanding how these proteins interact and how these interactions are regulated to ensure that a new centriole is only formed at the right place and at the right time.
Centriole biogenesis requires thirteen essential molecules. If any of these molecules is missing, centrioles cannot be made.
Centriole assembly is also tightly regulated and abnormalities in this process can lead to developmental defects and cancer. Initiation of centriole duplication is under tight regulation to ensure the control of centriole number. Presumably in centriole initiation, there is some form of cooperativity or positive feedback that results in asymmetric accumulation of the relevant proteins in a symmetric background.
So we have not only the requirement of eighteen proteins required for cell cycle regulation, but also thirteen essential molecules for centriole biogenesis, which by itself is also tighthly regulated, requiring positive feedback.
It appears at the initial stage of the centriole assembly process as the first ninefold symmetrical structure. The cartwheel was first described more than 50 years ago, but it is only recently that its pivotal role in establishing the ninefold symmetry of the centriole was demonstrated. This is a highly ordered structure that really stands out from the background. Constructed of rod-like microtubules, most centrioles have a nine-fold pattern, nine triplets or doublets evenly spaced at the rim, giving it a "cartwheel" appearance in cross-section.
The comparison to a human made cartwheel is evident, and so that it is intelligently designed. Obviously, the question arises, how could all this emerge gradually ?
Another amazing fact is that Electromagnetics play an important role in cell functioning and especially in cell duplication and division (mitosis).
Recent development in the field of quantum biology highlights that the intracellular electromagnetic field (EMF) of microtubules plays an important role in many fundamental cellular processes such as mitosis. It is an intriguing hypothesis that centrosome functions as molecular dynamo to generate electric flow over the microtubules, leading to the electric excitation of microtubule EMF that is required for spindle body microtubule self-assembly. With the help of motors proteins within the centrosome, centrosome transforms the energy from ATP into intracellular EMF in the living cell that shapes the functions of microtubules. There will be a general impact for the cell biology field to understand the mechanistic function of centrosome for the first time in correlation with its structural features.
The electromagnetic property of microtubule has been reported with both computation modelling and experimental evidences.
To transform the chemical energy in ATP into electric magnetic field within the living cell, cell needs to have a molecular dynamo to transform the mechanistic movement of protein complexes to directional movements of intracellular electrons, leading to the electric excitation of the spindle body microtubules as well as the M phase chromosomes, which is essential for mitosis
Taken together the longitudinal, or axial, vibration of the 13 filaments of an MT and then the 27 MTs making up the centriole barrel produce the electromagnetic field surrounding the centriole . Interestingly, this field is also found to be ferromagnetic. Also of interest, the fundamental vibration frequency of an MT filament is approximately 465 MHz, although this frequency is continually changing due to the ongoing length changing of the filaments. The electropolarity of the centrioles enables them to exert forces at a distance—that is, forces without physical contact.
All this cannot leave us asounded and v indicates the requirement of forsight to produce all these ingenius mechanisms,and subsequently a intelligent designer.
http://reasonandscience.heavenforum.org/t2090-centriole-centrosome-the-centriole-spindle-the-most-complex-machine-known-in-nature#4871
The duplication of eukaryotic cells is a all fine-tuned biochemical processes that depends on the precise structural arrangement of the cellular components. Mitotic cell division is the most fundamental task of all living cells. Cells have intricate and tightly regulated machinery to ensure that mitosis occurs with appropriate frequency and high fidelity.
The only way to make a new cell is to duplicate a cell that already exists. A cell reproduces by performing an orderly sequence of events in which it duplicates its contents and then divides in two. This cycle of duplication and division, known as the cell cycle, is the essential mechanism by which all living things reproduce. Dividing cells must coordinate their growth. A complex network of regulatory proteins trigger the different events of the cycle.
During the cell cylce, eighteen different regulators are required, which order and coordinate the process. Each of these regulators are absolutely essential. If one is missing, the cell cycle is not completed and, the cell cannot duplicate. Any of these regulators have only use if fully integrated in the process. They have no use or function by themself. This makes replication a irreducible , interdependent process.
Centrosomes play a key role in organizing the microtubule network of the cell, most notably the mitotic spindle during cell division .
The choreography of microtubules, centrosomes and chromosomes during mitosis and meiosis is beautifully designed, and uses finely regulated and synchronized movements.
The centrosome is a structure, consisting of a pair of cylindrical microtubule-based organelles called centrioles , embedded in an amorphous network of proteins known collectively as Pericentriolar Material (PCM). Microtubules (MTs) originate from the PCM. The PCM comprises a porous structural scaffold onto which γ-tubulin and other soluble components from the cytoplasm are loaded. Centrosome growth is an aggregation process of a condensed phase of PCM components, which segregate from the cytosol. The aggregation process leads to a centrosome phase that coexists with the cytosol and does rearrange internally. This implies that the centrosome phase is viscoelastic, such that on long timescales it behaves as a liquid-like material.
Cep192 is a pericentriolar protein that accumulates at centrosomes during mitosis and is required for PCM recruitment, centriole duplication, microtubule nucleation, and centrosome maturation.
Centrioles are among the most beautiful of biological structures. How their highly conserved nine-fold symmetry is generated is a question that has intrigued cell biologists for decades.
Centrioles are present in all eukaryotic species that form cilia and flagella, but are absent from higher plants and higher fungi which do not have cilia.
It seems likely that they have the primary purpose of growing cilia and flagella, which are important sensory and motile organelles found in almost all cells of the human body. These organelles have many important functions in cells, and their dysfunction has been linked to a plethora of human pathologies, ranging from cancer to microcephaly to obesity. Great progress has been made recently in understanding how these proteins interact and how these interactions are regulated to ensure that a new centriole is only formed at the right place and at the right time.
Centriole biogenesis requires thirteen essential molecules. If any of these molecules is missing, centrioles cannot be made.
Centriole assembly is also tightly regulated and abnormalities in this process can lead to developmental defects and cancer. Initiation of centriole duplication is under tight regulation to ensure the control of centriole number. Presumably in centriole initiation, there is some form of cooperativity or positive feedback that results in asymmetric accumulation of the relevant proteins in a symmetric background.
So we have not only the requirement of eighteen proteins required for cell cycle regulation, but also thirteen essential molecules for centriole biogenesis, which by itself is also tighthly regulated, requiring positive feedback.
It appears at the initial stage of the centriole assembly process as the first ninefold symmetrical structure. The cartwheel was first described more than 50 years ago, but it is only recently that its pivotal role in establishing the ninefold symmetry of the centriole was demonstrated. This is a highly ordered structure that really stands out from the background. Constructed of rod-like microtubules, most centrioles have a nine-fold pattern, nine triplets or doublets evenly spaced at the rim, giving it a "cartwheel" appearance in cross-section.
The comparison to a human made cartwheel is evident, and so that it is intelligently designed. Obviously, the question arises, how could all this emerge gradually ?
Another amazing fact is that Electromagnetics play an important role in cell functioning and especially in cell duplication and division (mitosis).
Recent development in the field of quantum biology highlights that the intracellular electromagnetic field (EMF) of microtubules plays an important role in many fundamental cellular processes such as mitosis. It is an intriguing hypothesis that centrosome functions as molecular dynamo to generate electric flow over the microtubules, leading to the electric excitation of microtubule EMF that is required for spindle body microtubule self-assembly. With the help of motors proteins within the centrosome, centrosome transforms the energy from ATP into intracellular EMF in the living cell that shapes the functions of microtubules. There will be a general impact for the cell biology field to understand the mechanistic function of centrosome for the first time in correlation with its structural features.
The electromagnetic property of microtubule has been reported with both computation modelling and experimental evidences.
To transform the chemical energy in ATP into electric magnetic field within the living cell, cell needs to have a molecular dynamo to transform the mechanistic movement of protein complexes to directional movements of intracellular electrons, leading to the electric excitation of the spindle body microtubules as well as the M phase chromosomes, which is essential for mitosis
Taken together the longitudinal, or axial, vibration of the 13 filaments of an MT and then the 27 MTs making up the centriole barrel produce the electromagnetic field surrounding the centriole . Interestingly, this field is also found to be ferromagnetic. Also of interest, the fundamental vibration frequency of an MT filament is approximately 465 MHz, although this frequency is continually changing due to the ongoing length changing of the filaments. The electropolarity of the centrioles enables them to exert forces at a distance—that is, forces without physical contact.
All this cannot leave us asounded and v indicates the requirement of forsight to produce all these ingenius mechanisms,and subsequently a intelligent designer.
http://reasonandscience.heavenforum.org/t2090-centriole-centrosome-the-centriole-spindle-the-most-complex-machine-known-in-nature#4871
Greg Guarino
May 28, 2016, 12:49:47 PM5/28/16
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On 5/26/2016 4:01 PM, Otangelo Grasso wrote:
> The centrosome is a structure, consisting of a pair of cylindrical
> microtubule-based organelles called centrioles , embedded in an
> amorphous network of proteins known collectively as Pericentriolar
> Material (PCM).
The sentence above is, but for one word ("bipartite"), exactly the same
> The centrosome is a structure, consisting of a pair of cylindrical
> microtubule-based organelles called centrioles , embedded in an
> amorphous network of proteins known collectively as Pericentriolar
> Material (PCM).
as one found on this page:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2835302/
I haven't taken the time to read all the way through, but the article
directly addresses Otangelo's claim, unsurprisingly disagreeing with his
conclusion.
Greg Guarino
May 28, 2016, 12:49:48 PM5/28/16
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On 5/26/2016 4:01 PM, Otangelo Grasso wrote:
> The centrosome is a structure, consisting of a pair of cylindrical
> microtubule-based organelles called centrioles , embedded in an
> amorphous network of proteins known collectively as Pericentriolar
> Material (PCM).
The sentence above is, but for one word ("bipartite", exactly the same
> microtubule-based organelles called centrioles , embedded in an
> amorphous network of proteins known collectively as Pericentriolar
> Material (PCM).
RonO
May 28, 2016, 12:49:48 PM5/28/16
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When will they determine if it has enough complex specified information
to be considered to be designed by your intelligent designer?
Make sure to come back and tell us when any ID science gets done.
Ron Okimoto
RonO
May 28, 2016, 12:49:48 PM5/28/16
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On 5/26/2016 3:01 PM, Otangelo Grasso wrote:
Greg Guarino
May 28, 2016, 12:49:51 PM5/28/16
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On 5/26/2016 4:01 PM, Otangelo Grasso wrote:
> The centrosome is a structure, consisting of a pair of cylindrical
> microtubule-based organelles called centrioles , embedded in an
> amorphous network of proteins known collectively as Pericentriolar
> Material (PCM).
> The centrosome is a structure, consisting of a pair of cylindrical
> microtubule-based organelles called centrioles , embedded in an
> amorphous network of proteins known collectively as Pericentriolar
> Material (PCM).
Steady Eddie
May 28, 2016, 11:54:46 PM5/28/16
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> When will they determine if it has enough complex specified information
> to be considered to be designed by your intelligent designer?
Do you really think that the difference between a lever and fulcrum and an inboard/outboard
motor is SO SLIM that we need a slide-rule to tell which one can be made by accident and
which one requires intelligent forethought?
Steady Eddie
May 28, 2016, 11:54:46 PM5/28/16
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On Saturday, 28 May 2016 10:49:48 UTC-6, Ron O wrote:
I think that was probably at the electron microscope.
> When will they determine if it has enough complex specified information
> to be considered to be designed by your intelligent designer?
> to be considered to be designed by your intelligent designer?
That was determined about the same time.
Do you really think that the difference between a lever and fulcrum and an inboard/outboard
motor is SO SLIM that we need a slide-rule to tell which one can be made by accident and
which one requires intelligent forethought?
Do you really think that the difference between a lever and fulcrum and an inboard/outboard
motor is SO SLIM that we need a slide-rule to tell which one can be made by accident and
which one requires intelligent forethought?
RonO
May 29, 2016, 6:04:43 PM5/29/16
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>
>> When will they determine if it has enough complex specified information
>> to be considered to be designed by your intelligent designer?
>
> That was determined about the same time.
> Do you really think that the difference between a lever and fulcrum and an inboard/outboard
> motor is SO SLIM that we need a slide-rule to tell which one can be made by accident and
> which one requires intelligent forethought?
done. You do know what complex specified information is don't you? It
is the CSI that the IDiots talk about, and Dembski made it up and never
used it for anything that could support IDiocy.
Ron Okimoto
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