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RonO
Sep 27, 2018, 7:15:02 PM9/27/18
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I have commented several times on the stupid way that Neanderthals are
always depicted by artists in crude fur clothing. These guys lived in
Europe during the Ice ages where much of Europe was covered by sheets of
ice. They likely had clothing as sophisticated as Inuits. They had
been living in such climates for half a million years.
There is a recent study that indicates that Neanderthals had "tailor"
hands that were used to doing fine manipulations. As sad as it may seem
the stock picture that accompanies the article depicts Neanderthals in
the same crude clothing that they are usually depicted in.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/09/neanderthals-used-their-hands-tailors-and-painters
Ron Okimoto
always depicted by artists in crude fur clothing. These guys lived in
Europe during the Ice ages where much of Europe was covered by sheets of
ice. They likely had clothing as sophisticated as Inuits. They had
been living in such climates for half a million years.
There is a recent study that indicates that Neanderthals had "tailor"
hands that were used to doing fine manipulations. As sad as it may seem
the stock picture that accompanies the article depicts Neanderthals in
the same crude clothing that they are usually depicted in.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/09/neanderthals-used-their-hands-tailors-and-painters
Ron Okimoto
vtand...@gmail.com
Oct 4, 2018, 2:30:02 AM10/4/18
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HOW FUCKING STUPID ARE YOU?
JWS
Oct 4, 2018, 7:00:03 AM10/4/18
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Neanderthals, we can submit your brain for medical examination.
HOW FUCKING STUPID ARE YOU?
The issue is the morphology of the hand. Can you act like
a half intelligent human and formulate a comment about the
subject of the post? Hell no, you can't. THAT'S how fucking
stupid you are.
RonO
Oct 4, 2018, 7:50:03 AM10/4/18
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actually thought about what he writes. The weird thing is that he
likely can't explain why the artist depicted the Neanderthals dressed as
they are in the picture using his same stupid assumptions. Does he
think that the artist had any photos? Such is the reality of Vtard.
Ron Okimoto
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Oct 4, 2018, 12:30:03 PM10/4/18
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On Thursday, 4 October 2018 07:30:02 UTC+1, V vapidly vomited forth....
>
> Tell ya what, jackass:If you can find photos of
> Neanderthals dressed differently, we can submit them
> for publication.
Can you find photos of Romans in togas or Elizabethans in
ruffs? No? But does that mean you think those didn't
exist...?
> HOW FUCKING STUPID ARE YOU?
You took the words out of my mouth.
>
> Tell ya what, jackass:If you can find photos of
> Neanderthals dressed differently, we can submit them
> for publication.
ruffs? No? But does that mean you think those didn't
exist...?
> HOW FUCKING STUPID ARE YOU?
Bob Casanova
Oct 4, 2018, 1:40:03 PM10/4/18
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On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 23:29:03 -0700 (PDT), the following
appeared in talk.origins, posted by vtand...@gmail.com:
Tell ya what, idiot: Find a photo of a Neanderthal dressed
in *any* way and you'll overturn nearly all of paleontology.
Just how stupid are *you*?
--
Bob C.
"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
- Isaac Asimov
appeared in talk.origins, posted by vtand...@gmail.com:
in *any* way and you'll overturn nearly all of paleontology.
Just how stupid are *you*?
--
Bob C.
"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
- Isaac Asimov
Oxyaena
Oct 4, 2018, 2:40:03 PM10/4/18
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On 9/27/2018 7:13 PM, RonO wrote:
> I have commented several times on the stupid way that Neanderthals are
> always depicted by artists in crude fur clothing. These guys lived in
> Europe during the Ice ages where much of Europe was covered by sheets of
> ice. They likely had clothing as sophisticated as Inuits. They had
> been living in such climates for half a million years.
>
> There is a recent study that indicates that Neanderthals had "tailor"
> hands that were used to doing fine manipulations. As sad as it may seem
> the stock picture that accompanies the article depicts Neanderthals in
> the same crude clothing that they are usually depicted in.
>
>
Interesting, this too correlates with an earlier post of mine about
> I have commented several times on the stupid way that Neanderthals are
> always depicted by artists in crude fur clothing. These guys lived in
> Europe during the Ice ages where much of Europe was covered by sheets of
> ice. They likely had clothing as sophisticated as Inuits. They had
> been living in such climates for half a million years.
>
> There is a recent study that indicates that Neanderthals had "tailor"
> hands that were used to doing fine manipulations. As sad as it may seem
> the stock picture that accompanies the article depicts Neanderthals in
> the same crude clothing that they are usually depicted in.
>
>
evidence indicating Neanderthals had some sort of linguistic ability,
Neanderthals were also capable of making pitch and even more evidence
towards them being tailors includes possible evidence of Neanderthals
making and wearing shows.
> https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/09/neanderthals-used-their-hands-tailors-and-painters
>
>
> Ron Okimoto
>
Oxyaena
Oct 4, 2018, 2:40:03 PM10/4/18
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no hope for you *at all* at this point.
> HOW FUCKING STUPID ARE YOU?
>
vtand...@gmail.com
Oct 4, 2018, 3:10:03 PM10/4/18
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jillery
Oct 4, 2018, 3:35:03 PM10/4/18
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On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 12:09:37 -0700 (PDT), vtand...@gmail.com wrote:
>Of course, you missed the point. I'm not surprised
Actually, there was no point to miss. Just sayin'.
>Of course, you missed the point. I'm not surprised
--
I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
Evelyn Beatrice Hall
Attributed to Voltaire
Oxyaena
Oct 4, 2018, 3:45:02 PM10/4/18
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photos of Romans in togas, no, we don't. We have EVIDENCE that they wore
them, just as we have evidence that Neanderthals were what could be
called "tailors".
Robert Carnegie
Oct 4, 2018, 4:45:03 PM10/4/18
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On Thursday, 4 October 2018 19:40:03 UTC+1, Oxyaena wrote:
> On 9/27/2018 7:13 PM, RonO wrote:
> > I have commented several times on the stupid way that Neanderthals are
> > always depicted by artists in crude fur clothing. These guys lived in
> > Europe during the Ice ages where much of Europe was covered by sheets of
> > ice. They likely had clothing as sophisticated as Inuits. They had
> > been living in such climates for half a million years.
> >
> > There is a recent study that indicates that Neanderthals had "tailor"
> > hands that were used to doing fine manipulations. As sad as it may seem
> > the stock picture that accompanies the article depicts Neanderthals in
> > the same crude clothing that they are usually depicted in.
> >
> >
>
> Interesting, this too correlates with an earlier post of mine about
> evidence indicating Neanderthals had some sort of linguistic ability,
> Neanderthals were also capable of making pitch and even more evidence
> towards them being tailors includes possible evidence of Neanderthals
> making and wearing shows.
What with their pitch abilities and putting on shows,
> On 9/27/2018 7:13 PM, RonO wrote:
> > I have commented several times on the stupid way that Neanderthals are
> > always depicted by artists in crude fur clothing. These guys lived in
> > Europe during the Ice ages where much of Europe was covered by sheets of
> > ice. They likely had clothing as sophisticated as Inuits. They had
> > been living in such climates for half a million years.
> >
> > There is a recent study that indicates that Neanderthals had "tailor"
> > hands that were used to doing fine manipulations. As sad as it may seem
> > the stock picture that accompanies the article depicts Neanderthals in
> > the same crude clothing that they are usually depicted in.
> >
> >
>
> Interesting, this too correlates with an earlier post of mine about
> evidence indicating Neanderthals had some sort of linguistic ability,
> Neanderthals were also capable of making pitch and even more evidence
> towards them being tailors includes possible evidence of Neanderthals
> making and wearing shows.
it sounds like Hollywood is run by Neanderthals.
It looks like it, as well.
I'm slightly unconvinced that Neanderthals were fine
tailors - let's see needles, of bone presumably -
and completely unconvinced that anything shown in the
video was not from a stock source of pre-existing
pictures, although that doesn't address the thesis.
Öö Tiib
Oct 4, 2018, 5:00:02 PM10/4/18
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Oxyaena
Oct 4, 2018, 5:00:02 PM10/4/18
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On 10/4/2018 4:42 PM, Robert Carnegie wrote:
> On Thursday, 4 October 2018 19:40:03 UTC+1, Oxyaena wrote:
>> On 9/27/2018 7:13 PM, RonO wrote:
>>> I have commented several times on the stupid way that Neanderthals are
>>> always depicted by artists in crude fur clothing. These guys lived in
>>> Europe during the Ice ages where much of Europe was covered by sheets of
>>> ice. They likely had clothing as sophisticated as Inuits. They had
>>> been living in such climates for half a million years.
>>>
>>> There is a recent study that indicates that Neanderthals had "tailor"
>>> hands that were used to doing fine manipulations. As sad as it may seem
>>> the stock picture that accompanies the article depicts Neanderthals in
>>> the same crude clothing that they are usually depicted in.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Interesting, this too correlates with an earlier post of mine about
>> evidence indicating Neanderthals had some sort of linguistic ability,
>> Neanderthals were also capable of making pitch and even more evidence
>> towards them being tailors includes possible evidence of Neanderthals
>> making and wearing shows.
>
> What with their pitch abilities and putting on shows,
> it sounds like Hollywood is run by Neanderthals.
>
Oh, god, did I really write "shows" instead of "shoes"? I have to admit,
> On Thursday, 4 October 2018 19:40:03 UTC+1, Oxyaena wrote:
>> On 9/27/2018 7:13 PM, RonO wrote:
>>> I have commented several times on the stupid way that Neanderthals are
>>> always depicted by artists in crude fur clothing. These guys lived in
>>> Europe during the Ice ages where much of Europe was covered by sheets of
>>> ice. They likely had clothing as sophisticated as Inuits. They had
>>> been living in such climates for half a million years.
>>>
>>> There is a recent study that indicates that Neanderthals had "tailor"
>>> hands that were used to doing fine manipulations. As sad as it may seem
>>> the stock picture that accompanies the article depicts Neanderthals in
>>> the same crude clothing that they are usually depicted in.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Interesting, this too correlates with an earlier post of mine about
>> evidence indicating Neanderthals had some sort of linguistic ability,
>> Neanderthals were also capable of making pitch and even more evidence
>> towards them being tailors includes possible evidence of Neanderthals
>> making and wearing shows.
>
> What with their pitch abilities and putting on shows,
> it sounds like Hollywood is run by Neanderthals.
>
that is kind of funny that I did that.
Robert Carnegie
Oct 4, 2018, 6:00:04 PM10/4/18
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On Thursday, 4 October 2018 22:00:02 UTC+1, Oxyaena wrote:
> On 10/4/2018 4:42 PM, Robert Carnegie wrote:
> > On Thursday, 4 October 2018 19:40:03 UTC+1, Oxyaena wrote:
> >> On 9/27/2018 7:13 PM, RonO wrote:
> >>> I have commented several times on the stupid way that Neanderthals are
> >>> always depicted by artists in crude fur clothing. These guys lived in
> >>> Europe during the Ice ages where much of Europe was covered by sheets of
> >>> ice. They likely had clothing as sophisticated as Inuits. They had
> >>> been living in such climates for half a million years.
> >>>
> >>> There is a recent study that indicates that Neanderthals had "tailor"
> >>> hands that were used to doing fine manipulations. As sad as it may seem
> >>> the stock picture that accompanies the article depicts Neanderthals in
> >>> the same crude clothing that they are usually depicted in.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Interesting, this too correlates with an earlier post of mine about
> >> evidence indicating Neanderthals had some sort of linguistic ability,
> >> Neanderthals were also capable of making pitch and even more evidence
> >> towards them being tailors includes possible evidence of Neanderthals
> >> making and wearing shows.
> >
> > What with their pitch abilities and putting on shows,
> > it sounds like Hollywood is run by Neanderthals.
> >
>
> Oh, god, did I really write "shows" instead of "shoes"? I have to admit,
> that is kind of funny that I did that.
I admit I've transmitted more embarrassing mistakes than
> On 10/4/2018 4:42 PM, Robert Carnegie wrote:
> > On Thursday, 4 October 2018 19:40:03 UTC+1, Oxyaena wrote:
> >> On 9/27/2018 7:13 PM, RonO wrote:
> >>> I have commented several times on the stupid way that Neanderthals are
> >>> always depicted by artists in crude fur clothing. These guys lived in
> >>> Europe during the Ice ages where much of Europe was covered by sheets of
> >>> ice. They likely had clothing as sophisticated as Inuits. They had
> >>> been living in such climates for half a million years.
> >>>
> >>> There is a recent study that indicates that Neanderthals had "tailor"
> >>> hands that were used to doing fine manipulations. As sad as it may seem
> >>> the stock picture that accompanies the article depicts Neanderthals in
> >>> the same crude clothing that they are usually depicted in.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Interesting, this too correlates with an earlier post of mine about
> >> evidence indicating Neanderthals had some sort of linguistic ability,
> >> Neanderthals were also capable of making pitch and even more evidence
> >> towards them being tailors includes possible evidence of Neanderthals
> >> making and wearing shows.
> >
> > What with their pitch abilities and putting on shows,
> > it sounds like Hollywood is run by Neanderthals.
> >
>
> Oh, god, did I really write "shows" instead of "shoes"? I have to admit,
> that is kind of funny that I did that.
that, and not even funny - except to someone I was arguing
with at the time, I suppose.
As it is, I'm wondering whether I've gone too far with
Neanderthalist humour.
Bob Casanova
Oct 5, 2018, 2:15:03 PM10/5/18
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On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 12:09:37 -0700 (PDT), the following
any other, providing that no known data was violated? If so,
I believe it was *you* who missed the point.
But I suspect this latest is just another of your futile
attempts at damage control, after your rather idiotic
implication that photos of Neanderthals exist.
appeared in talk.origins, posted by vtand...@gmail.com:
>On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 10:40:03 AM UTC-7, Bob Casanova wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 23:29:03 -0700 (PDT), the following
>> appeared in talk.origins, posted by vtand...@gmail.com:
>>
>> >On Thursday, September 27, 2018 at 4:15:02 PM UTC-7, Ron O wrote:
>> >> I have commented several times on the stupid way that Neanderthals are
>> >> always depicted by artists in crude fur clothing. These guys lived in
>> >> Europe during the Ice ages where much of Europe was covered by sheets of
>> >> ice. They likely had clothing as sophisticated as Inuits. They had
>> >> been living in such climates for half a million years.
>> >>
>> >> There is a recent study that indicates that Neanderthals had "tailor"
>> >> hands that were used to doing fine manipulations. As sad as it may seem
>> >> the stock picture that accompanies the article depicts Neanderthals in
>> >> the same crude clothing that they are usually depicted in.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/09/neanderthals-used-their-hands-tailors-and-painters
>> >>
>> >> Ron Okimoto
>> >
>> >Tell ya what, jackass:If you can find photos of Neanderthals dressed differently, we can submit them for publication.
>> >HOW FUCKING STUPID ARE YOU?
>>
>> Tell ya what, idiot: Find a photo of a Neanderthal dressed
>> in *any* way and you'll overturn nearly all of paleontology.
>>
>> Just how stupid are *you*?
>On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 10:40:03 AM UTC-7, Bob Casanova wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 23:29:03 -0700 (PDT), the following
>> appeared in talk.origins, posted by vtand...@gmail.com:
>>
>> >On Thursday, September 27, 2018 at 4:15:02 PM UTC-7, Ron O wrote:
>> >> I have commented several times on the stupid way that Neanderthals are
>> >> always depicted by artists in crude fur clothing. These guys lived in
>> >> Europe during the Ice ages where much of Europe was covered by sheets of
>> >> ice. They likely had clothing as sophisticated as Inuits. They had
>> >> been living in such climates for half a million years.
>> >>
>> >> There is a recent study that indicates that Neanderthals had "tailor"
>> >> hands that were used to doing fine manipulations. As sad as it may seem
>> >> the stock picture that accompanies the article depicts Neanderthals in
>> >> the same crude clothing that they are usually depicted in.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/09/neanderthals-used-their-hands-tailors-and-painters
>> >>
>> >> Ron Okimoto
>> >
>> >Tell ya what, jackass:If you can find photos of Neanderthals dressed differently, we can submit them for publication.
>> >HOW FUCKING STUPID ARE YOU?
>>
>> Tell ya what, idiot: Find a photo of a Neanderthal dressed
>> in *any* way and you'll overturn nearly all of paleontology.
>>
>> Just how stupid are *you*?
>Of course, you missed the point. I'm not surprised
Was the "point" that any artist's conception is as good as
any other, providing that no known data was violated? If so,
I believe it was *you* who missed the point.
But I suspect this latest is just another of your futile
attempts at damage control, after your rather idiotic
implication that photos of Neanderthals exist.
Panthera Tigris Altaica
Oct 5, 2018, 4:25:03 PM10/5/18
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running a false-flag operation. No-one who is really this stupid could
possibly be able to operate a computer well enough to post to usenet.
Robert Carnegie
Oct 5, 2018, 5:20:04 PM10/5/18
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Panthera Tigris Altaica
Oct 5, 2018, 5:55:02 PM10/5/18
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challenging.
And there would be the problem of how someone this stupid learned of
usenet in the first place, and then how it learned of t.o.
JWS
Oct 5, 2018, 5:55:02 PM10/5/18
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vtand...@gmail.com
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Robert Carnegie
Oct 6, 2018, 6:25:03 AM10/6/18
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On Friday, 5 October 2018 22:55:02 UTC+1, JWS wrote:
> On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 5:00:04 PM UTC-5, Robert Carnegie wrote:
> > On Thursday, 4 October 2018 22:00:02 UTC+1, Oxyaena wrote:
> > > On 10/4/2018 4:42 PM, Robert Carnegie wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, 4 October 2018 19:40:03 UTC+1, Oxyaena wrote:
> > > >> On 9/27/2018 7:13 PM, RonO wrote:
> > > >>> I have commented several times on the stupid way that Neanderthals are
> > > >>> always depicted by artists in crude fur clothing. These guys lived in
> > > >>> Europe during the Ice ages where much of Europe was covered by sheets of
> > > >>> ice. They likely had clothing as sophisticated as Inuits. They had
> > > >>> been living in such climates for half a million years.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> There is a recent study that indicates that Neanderthals had "tailor"
> > > >>> hands that were used to doing fine manipulations. As sad as it may seem
> > > >>> the stock picture that accompanies the article depicts Neanderthals in
> > > >>> the same crude clothing that they are usually depicted in.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >> Interesting, this too correlates with an earlier post of mine about
> > > >> evidence indicating Neanderthals had some sort of linguistic ability,
> > > >> Neanderthals were also capable of making pitch and even more evidence
> > > >> towards them being tailors includes possible evidence of Neanderthals
> > > >> making and wearing shows.
> > > >
> > > > What with their pitch abilities and putting on shows,
> > > > it sounds like Hollywood is run by Neanderthals.
> > > >
> > > > it looks like it, as well.
> On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 5:00:04 PM UTC-5, Robert Carnegie wrote:
> > On Thursday, 4 October 2018 22:00:02 UTC+1, Oxyaena wrote:
> > > On 10/4/2018 4:42 PM, Robert Carnegie wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, 4 October 2018 19:40:03 UTC+1, Oxyaena wrote:
> > > >> On 9/27/2018 7:13 PM, RonO wrote:
> > > >>> I have commented several times on the stupid way that Neanderthals are
> > > >>> always depicted by artists in crude fur clothing. These guys lived in
> > > >>> Europe during the Ice ages where much of Europe was covered by sheets of
> > > >>> ice. They likely had clothing as sophisticated as Inuits. They had
> > > >>> been living in such climates for half a million years.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> There is a recent study that indicates that Neanderthals had "tailor"
> > > >>> hands that were used to doing fine manipulations. As sad as it may seem
> > > >>> the stock picture that accompanies the article depicts Neanderthals in
> > > >>> the same crude clothing that they are usually depicted in.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >> Interesting, this too correlates with an earlier post of mine about
> > > >> evidence indicating Neanderthals had some sort of linguistic ability,
> > > >> Neanderthals were also capable of making pitch and even more evidence
> > > >> towards them being tailors includes possible evidence of Neanderthals
> > > >> making and wearing shows.
> > > >
> > > > What with their pitch abilities and putting on shows,
> > > > it sounds like Hollywood is run by Neanderthals.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Oh, god, did I really write "shows" instead of "shoes"? I have to admit,
> > > that is kind of funny that I did that.
> >
> > I admit I've transmitted more embarrassing mistakes than
> > that, and not even funny - except to someone I was arguing
> > with at the time, I suppose.
> >
> > As it is, I'm wondering whether I've gone too far with
> > Neanderthalist humour.
>
> Two Neanderthals walk into a tailor shop...
And say "Ouch".
> > > Oh, god, did I really write "shows" instead of "shoes"? I have to admit,
> > > that is kind of funny that I did that.
> >
> > I admit I've transmitted more embarrassing mistakes than
> > that, and not even funny - except to someone I was arguing
> > with at the time, I suppose.
> >
> > As it is, I'm wondering whether I've gone too far with
> > Neanderthalist humour.
>
> Two Neanderthals walk into a tailor shop...
And claim to be related to the owner.
On mistakes, I just committed one in group alt.atheism,
where too much time is spent talking about religion;
I blamed the bible for people expecting the moon
to cone out only at night. I meant to say "come out",
of course, and I might be over-worrying about how much
I undermined my own argument.
Perhaps I should worry instead about the strong temptation
I just felt to claim that I mined my own undergarment.
Wolffan
Oct 6, 2018, 9:20:03 AM10/6/18
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On 06 Oct 2018, vtand...@gmail.com wrote
(in article<2b114bd8-7c46-49dd...@googlegroups.com>):
oh, yes you did, in
Message-ID:<a1c0345c-7e5c-4dab...@googlegroups.com>
quote:
“Tell ya what, jackass:If you can find photos of Neanderthals dressed
unquote.
And it’s _still_ present in the text of the very post you made denying that
you did it! You keep setting new standards for gross stupidity!
[gets more popcorn]
(in article<2b114bd8-7c46-49dd...@googlegroups.com>):
Message-ID:<a1c0345c-7e5c-4dab...@googlegroups.com>
quote:
“Tell ya what, jackass:If you can find photos of Neanderthals dressed
differently, we can submit them for publication.
HOW FUCKING STUPID ARE YOU?”
unquote.
And it’s _still_ present in the text of the very post you made denying that
you did it! You keep setting new standards for gross stupidity!
[gets more popcorn]
Oxyaena
Oct 6, 2018, 10:25:02 AM10/6/18
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up admitted to trolling for the sake of trolling before.
jonathan
Oct 6, 2018, 11:10:04 AM10/6/18
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jonathan
Oct 6, 2018, 11:15:02 AM10/6/18
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I noticed they SLASHED the price for this, like
the old saying 'ya can't put lipstick on a pig'.
https://bit.ly/2Nsm57c
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the old saying 'ya can't put lipstick on a pig'.
https://bit.ly/2Nsm57c
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Bob Casanova
Oct 6, 2018, 1:35:03 PM10/6/18
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On Sat, 6 Oct 2018 02:49:54 -0700 (PDT), the following
Yes, you did; that's what your demand for "photos of
Neanderthals dressed differently" (IOW, not dressed as
current photos show) implied.
You seem to really have a problem with standard English,
despite your fairly frequent "grammar Nazi" comments.
Perhaps that is why you so vehemently oppose the findings
about the Dunning-Kruger Effect; you know subconsciously
that it applies to you.
Neanderthals dressed differently" (IOW, not dressed as
current photos show) implied.
You seem to really have a problem with standard English,
despite your fairly frequent "grammar Nazi" comments.
Perhaps that is why you so vehemently oppose the findings
about the Dunning-Kruger Effect; you know subconsciously
that it applies to you.
Bob Casanova
Oct 6, 2018, 1:35:03 PM10/6/18
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On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 09:18:19 -0400, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by Wolffan <akwo...@zoho.com>:
Apparently he lacks either the wit to understand what
"implication" means, or the wit to know how to re-read what
he posted. Or both.
>[gets more popcorn]
in talk.origins, posted by Wolffan <akwo...@zoho.com>:
"implication" means, or the wit to know how to re-read what
he posted. Or both.
>[gets more popcorn]
Bob Casanova
Oct 6, 2018, 2:25:03 PM10/6/18
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On Sat, 6 Oct 2018 11:01:03 -0400, the following appeared in
talk.origins, posted by jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com>:
No one. But he said "photos" not "pics", and despite your
"Subject" line those don't exist.
>https://bit.ly/2eXxvjj
So, you're a card-carrying member of Bigots 'r' Us, or
possibly the NSWPP?
Color me unsurprised.
talk.origins, posted by jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com>:
"Subject" line those don't exist.
>https://bit.ly/2eXxvjj
So, you're a card-carrying member of Bigots 'r' Us, or
possibly the NSWPP?
Color me unsurprised.
Wolffan
Oct 6, 2018, 3:40:03 PM10/6/18
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On 06 Oct 2018, Bob Casanova wrote
(in article<n8vhrd95q7mq6buo3...@4ax.com>):
Of course he is. He’s the Weird and Creepy Guy, after all.
> or
> possibly the NSWPP?
Nah. He’s too creepy for them. They have _standards_. He doesn’t.
>
>
> Color me unsurprised.
(in article<n8vhrd95q7mq6buo3...@4ax.com>):
> or
> possibly the NSWPP?
Nah. He’s too creepy for them. They have _standards_. He doesn’t.
>
>
> Color me unsurprised.
jonathan
Oct 6, 2018, 4:10:02 PM10/6/18
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going to be getting spanked by some real
investigations, not the cover up committees
currently protecting his many crimes from
being prosecuted.
Ya know we're all still waiting for his
'audits', the world's longest, to be
finished so we can see his tax cheat
ah I mean...returns.
Odds are 33% he won't make it full term
up 10% since July.
https://odds.watch/trump
Once the dems take the House and get a hold
of his tax returns those odds are going to
rocket upward.
Trump has laundered hundreds of millions
of Russian dirty money, he's no doubt
a world class tax cheat. And astonishingly
Putin is blackmailing a sitting president.
Not since Benedict Arnold has the US
been betrayed so completely.
If you doubt Trump is unflinchingly
'loyal' to Putin and a traitor at heart
these pics are worth a thousand words...
Pictures from Trump's 'secret' Russian
Oval Office Party. Pics Trump tried
to hide but Russia Today leaked.
https://bit.ly/2KfS4q5
https://read.bi/2GaGJ87
https://bit.ly/2jTyiVS
https://bit.ly/2rBPRxa
https://bit.ly/2IBeapx
https://n.pr/2wELh7m
~ singin'
Chestnuts roasting on an open fire
Shumer nipping at your heels
Impeachment carols sung by a choir
And Trumps family falling like dominoes
Everybody knows a criminal quid pro quo
Help to make the jury bright
Tiny tots with their eyes all aglow
Trump will find it hard to sleep tonight
He knows the slammer is on the way
He's loaded lots of lawyers and Rudy on his sleigh
And every mother's child is gonna spy
To see if Trump still knows how to lie
And so I'm offering this simple phrase
To kids from one to ninety-two
Although it's been said many times, many ways
Trump fuck you fuck you
s
--
Wolffan
Oct 6, 2018, 5:50:03 PM10/6/18
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On 06 Oct 2018, jonathan wrote
(in article<TKqdnc6wV_9yiCTG...@giganews.com>):
> Ya well in a few months your boy Trump is
The Trumpanzee is not my boy, Weird & Creepy Guy. Most definitely not my
boy.
Rest deleted as it was as idiotic as the starting premise.
(in article<TKqdnc6wV_9yiCTG...@giganews.com>):
> Ya well in a few months your boy Trump is
boy.
Rest deleted as it was as idiotic as the starting premise.
Bob Casanova
Oct 7, 2018, 2:55:03 PM10/7/18
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On Sat, 6 Oct 2018 16:02:23 -0400, the following appeared in
You seem to be laboring under a misapprehension.
Again, color me unsurprised.
So, where are those photos of Neanderthals?
Again, color me unsurprised.
So, where are those photos of Neanderthals?
Bob Casanova
Oct 7, 2018, 2:55:03 PM10/7/18
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On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 15:38:47 -0400, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by Wolffan <akwo...@zoho.com>:
They used to have a daily phone message, back in the late
'60s, that the techs in the lab would call and put on
speaker for everyone to marvel and laugh at. IIRC, every
message began with "Let Freedom Ring!".
in talk.origins, posted by Wolffan <akwo...@zoho.com>:
'60s, that the techs in the lab would call and put on
speaker for everyone to marvel and laugh at. IIRC, every
message began with "Let Freedom Ring!".
RonO
Oct 7, 2018, 3:05:03 PM10/7/18
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can comprehend about reality.
Ron Okimoto
RichD
Oct 9, 2018, 4:15:03 PM10/9/18
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On September 27, Ron O wrote:
> I have commented several times on the stupid way that Neanderthals
> are always depicted by artists in crude fur clothing. These guys
> lived in Europe during the Ice ages. They likely had clothing as
> I have commented several times on the stupid way that Neanderthals
> are always depicted by artists in crude fur clothing. These guys
> sophisticated as Inuits.
Climb into your time machine, go back 40000 years,
kidnap an adult neanderthal couple, and their infant
boy-girl twin cubs. Bring them home, drop them at
[ .... geographical location of your choice].
How would they fare, today?
--
Rich
RonO
Oct 9, 2018, 6:50:02 PM10/9/18
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Ron Okimoto
Bob Casanova
Oct 10, 2018, 2:15:03 PM10/10/18
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On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 13:11:44 -0700 (PDT), the following
appeared in talk.origins, posted by RichD
<r_dela...@yahoo.com>:
Probably as well as they did then, if the environment was
similar to the one in which they evolved and if they were
allowed to practice their normal lifestyle.
BTW, I like the "cubs" designation for humans (and yes,
Neanderthals *were* human, just as any members of genus Homo
were and are) who happen to be different from you; it shows
your character quite well, probably more so than you'd wish.
appeared in talk.origins, posted by RichD
<r_dela...@yahoo.com>:
similar to the one in which they evolved and if they were
allowed to practice their normal lifestyle.
BTW, I like the "cubs" designation for humans (and yes,
Neanderthals *were* human, just as any members of genus Homo
were and are) who happen to be different from you; it shows
your character quite well, probably more so than you'd wish.
Oxyaena
Oct 13, 2018, 3:25:02 AM10/13/18
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Oxyaena
Oct 13, 2018, 3:25:02 AM10/13/18
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On 10/10/2018 2:10 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 13:11:44 -0700 (PDT), the following
> appeared in talk.origins, posted by RichD
> <r_dela...@yahoo.com>:
>
>> On September 27, Ron O wrote:
>
>>> I have commented several times on the stupid way that Neanderthals
>>> are always depicted by artists in crude fur clothing. These guys
>>> lived in Europe during the Ice ages. They likely had clothing as
>>> sophisticated as Inuits.
>
>> Climb into your time machine, go back 40000 years,
>> kidnap an adult neanderthal couple, and their infant
>> boy-girl twin cubs. Bring them home, drop them at
>> [ .... geographical location of your choice].
>>
>> How would they fare, today?
>
> Probably as well as they did then, if the environment was
> similar to the one in which they evolved and if they were
> allowed to practice their normal lifestyle.
There would also be the language barrier, but given enough time that
> On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 13:11:44 -0700 (PDT), the following
> appeared in talk.origins, posted by RichD
> <r_dela...@yahoo.com>:
>
>> On September 27, Ron O wrote:
>
>>> I have commented several times on the stupid way that Neanderthals
>>> are always depicted by artists in crude fur clothing. These guys
>>> lived in Europe during the Ice ages. They likely had clothing as
>>> sophisticated as Inuits.
>
>> Climb into your time machine, go back 40000 years,
>> kidnap an adult neanderthal couple, and their infant
>> boy-girl twin cubs. Bring them home, drop them at
>> [ .... geographical location of your choice].
>>
>> How would they fare, today?
>
> Probably as well as they did then, if the environment was
> similar to the one in which they evolved and if they were
> allowed to practice their normal lifestyle.
could be overcome. Indeed, one of the easiest ways to learn a language
is by exposure, dumping a person in a completely unfamiliar environment
surrounded by people who speak a totally different language than their own.
Robert Carnegie
Oct 13, 2018, 9:25:03 AM10/13/18
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Neanderthals wouldn't be noticed in the street. And maybe they have
both worked out after all. It's just scissors...
Which reminds me of another point, related to discovering
Neanderthal clothing (on which, consider:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ötzi#Clothes_and_shoes>)
Recently, much has been made of polymer plastic waste material
as pollution that isn't biodegradable, including bead... and fibres,
such as from clothing. (Also, tea bags. Are plastic bags. News
to me. It's being worked on.)
But what about "natural" fibres from clothing? Can nature
digest those on a Neanderthal timescale? Or just move them around...
Bob Casanova
Oct 13, 2018, 2:15:03 PM10/13/18
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On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 03:22:25 -0400, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by Oxyaena
<oxy...@error.invalid.address>:
>On 10/10/2018 2:10 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
>> On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 13:11:44 -0700 (PDT), the following
>> appeared in talk.origins, posted by RichD
>> <r_dela...@yahoo.com>:
>>
>>> On September 27, Ron O wrote:
>>
>>>> I have commented several times on the stupid way that Neanderthals
>>>> are always depicted by artists in crude fur clothing. These guys
>>>> lived in Europe during the Ice ages. They likely had clothing as
>>>> sophisticated as Inuits.
>>
>>> Climb into your time machine, go back 40000 years,
>>> kidnap an adult neanderthal couple, and their infant
>>> boy-girl twin cubs. Bring them home, drop them at
>>> [ .... geographical location of your choice].
>>>
>>> How would they fare, today?
>>
>> Probably as well as they did then, if the environment was
>> similar to the one in which they evolved and if they were
>> allowed to practice their normal lifestyle.
>
>There would also be the language barrier, but given enough time that
>could be overcome. Indeed, one of the easiest ways to learn a language
>is by exposure, dumping a person in a completely unfamiliar environment
>surrounded by people who speak a totally different language than their own.
I wasn't thinking of assimilation, but of living in
isolation as hunter-gatherers; their "normal lifestyle". Of
course, the areas available for that lifestyle are now
*very* limited.
>> BTW, I like the "cubs" designation for humans (and yes,
>> Neanderthals *were* human, just as any members of genus Homo
>> were and are) who happen to be different from you; it shows
>> your character quite well, probably more so than you'd wish.
>>
in talk.origins, posted by Oxyaena
<oxy...@error.invalid.address>:
>On 10/10/2018 2:10 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
>> On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 13:11:44 -0700 (PDT), the following
>> appeared in talk.origins, posted by RichD
>> <r_dela...@yahoo.com>:
>>
>>> On September 27, Ron O wrote:
>>
>>>> I have commented several times on the stupid way that Neanderthals
>>>> are always depicted by artists in crude fur clothing. These guys
>>>> lived in Europe during the Ice ages. They likely had clothing as
>>>> sophisticated as Inuits.
>>
>>> Climb into your time machine, go back 40000 years,
>>> kidnap an adult neanderthal couple, and their infant
>>> boy-girl twin cubs. Bring them home, drop them at
>>> [ .... geographical location of your choice].
>>>
>>> How would they fare, today?
>>
>> Probably as well as they did then, if the environment was
>> similar to the one in which they evolved and if they were
>> allowed to practice their normal lifestyle.
>
>There would also be the language barrier, but given enough time that
>could be overcome. Indeed, one of the easiest ways to learn a language
>is by exposure, dumping a person in a completely unfamiliar environment
>surrounded by people who speak a totally different language than their own.
isolation as hunter-gatherers; their "normal lifestyle". Of
course, the areas available for that lifestyle are now
*very* limited.
>> BTW, I like the "cubs" designation for humans (and yes,
>> Neanderthals *were* human, just as any members of genus Homo
>> were and are) who happen to be different from you; it shows
>> your character quite well, probably more so than you'd wish.
>>
Oxyaena
Oct 13, 2018, 3:05:03 PM10/13/18
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somehow affected by it to some degree, I recently watched a BBC video of
some San Bushmen on the hunt, while wearing t-shirts and khakis, and
using plastic bottles to replenish water lost from sweat during the hunt.
The only people left on Earth who it can be argued to have not been
affected by modern society *at all* are the Sentinelese of North
Sentinel Island in the Andamans, we know so little about them that even
their language is unknown, and they repeatedly repel outside attempts to
contact them, at one point shooting an anthropologist in the ass with an
arrow. Safe to say the guy who shot the arrow was laughing his ass off
at the anthropologist, and then proceeded to take down their pants and
moon the anthropological expedition. I'll give them this, they have a
good sense of humor. The Indian government has pretty much declared a
no-go zone of approximately three miles around North Sentinel Island,
and the Sentinelese pretty much govern themselves.
Bob Casanova
Oct 14, 2018, 2:10:03 PM10/14/18
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On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 15:00:51 -0400, the following appeared
Hey, they're realists, and will use whatever works for them.
But your description still caused "The Gods Must Be Crazy"
to pop into my head... ;-)
>The only people left on Earth who it can be argued to have not been
>affected by modern society *at all* are the Sentinelese of North
>Sentinel Island in the Andamans, we know so little about them that even
>their language is unknown, and they repeatedly repel outside attempts to
>contact them, at one point shooting an anthropologist in the ass with an
>arrow. Safe to say the guy who shot the arrow was laughing his ass off
>at the anthropologist, and then proceeded to take down their pants and
>moon the anthropological expedition. I'll give them this, they have a
>good sense of humor. The Indian government has pretty much declared a
>no-go zone of approximately three miles around North Sentinel Island,
>and the Sentinelese pretty much govern themselves.
A rational decision, IMHO. And I suspect that *only* a
society on a small isolated island can be protected in that
way; IIRC even the Jivaro and the natives in interior New
Guinea are now pressed by the modern world.
>>>> BTW, I like the "cubs" designation for humans (and yes,
>>>> Neanderthals *were* human, just as any members of genus Homo
>>>> were and are) who happen to be different from you; it shows
>>>> your character quite well, probably more so than you'd wish.
>>>>
But your description still caused "The Gods Must Be Crazy"
to pop into my head... ;-)
>The only people left on Earth who it can be argued to have not been
>affected by modern society *at all* are the Sentinelese of North
>Sentinel Island in the Andamans, we know so little about them that even
>their language is unknown, and they repeatedly repel outside attempts to
>contact them, at one point shooting an anthropologist in the ass with an
>arrow. Safe to say the guy who shot the arrow was laughing his ass off
>at the anthropologist, and then proceeded to take down their pants and
>moon the anthropological expedition. I'll give them this, they have a
>good sense of humor. The Indian government has pretty much declared a
>no-go zone of approximately three miles around North Sentinel Island,
>and the Sentinelese pretty much govern themselves.
society on a small isolated island can be protected in that
way; IIRC even the Jivaro and the natives in interior New
Guinea are now pressed by the modern world.
>>>> BTW, I like the "cubs" designation for humans (and yes,
>>>> Neanderthals *were* human, just as any members of genus Homo
>>>> were and are) who happen to be different from you; it shows
>>>> your character quite well, probably more so than you'd wish.
>>>>
Oxyaena
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Highlands of Papua New Guinea, and I remember seeing that one tribe
started naming the title of war chief "Rambo" after the famed action
hero of cheesy 1980's action movie lore.
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RichD
Oct 16, 2018, 7:45:03 PM10/16/18
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On October 9, Ron O wrote:
>>> I have commented several times on the stupid way that Neanderthals
>>> are always depicted by artists in crude fur clothing.
>
>>> I have commented several times on the stupid way that Neanderthals
>>> are always depicted by artists in crude fur clothing.
>
>> Climb into your time machine, go back 40000 years,
>> kidnap an adult neanderthal couple, and their infant
>> boy-girl twin cubs. Bring them home,
>> kidnap an adult neanderthal couple, and their infant
>> boy-girl twin cubs. Bring them home,
>> How would they fare, today?
>
>
> Probably about as well as young earth creationists.
You mean, one of them might be elected Vice Emperor of USA?
--
Rich
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