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RonO
Oct 9, 2018, 7:55:04 AM10/9/18
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https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/10/181002082420.htm
https://peerj.com/articles/5690/
News blurp and the original article. They found a survival difference
between spot patterns in giraffes. They also collected data indicating
that the spot pattern was heritable.
The news blurp gets it wrong in their impression that the trait is
maternally inherited. It is likely inherited just like most other
traits, but for the study they could only determine the mother's
relationship with her progeny. They could not determine who the father
was, so the father could not be used in the study. As you would expect
for a trait that was genetic the progeny were more similar to their
parent for the spot trait than they were to unrelated individuals. No
big whoop. The survival data would be of most interest. Now they have
to figure out why there is so much variation if there is a survival
difference. My guess is that survival is not totally correlated with
reproduction. The other variants obviously reproduce enough to be
maintained in the population. They have to produce more progeny and/or
live longer.
Ron Okimoto
https://peerj.com/articles/5690/
News blurp and the original article. They found a survival difference
between spot patterns in giraffes. They also collected data indicating
that the spot pattern was heritable.
The news blurp gets it wrong in their impression that the trait is
maternally inherited. It is likely inherited just like most other
traits, but for the study they could only determine the mother's
relationship with her progeny. They could not determine who the father
was, so the father could not be used in the study. As you would expect
for a trait that was genetic the progeny were more similar to their
parent for the spot trait than they were to unrelated individuals. No
big whoop. The survival data would be of most interest. Now they have
to figure out why there is so much variation if there is a survival
difference. My guess is that survival is not totally correlated with
reproduction. The other variants obviously reproduce enough to be
maintained in the population. They have to produce more progeny and/or
live longer.
Ron Okimoto
satoshi
Oct 9, 2018, 8:40:04 AM10/9/18
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Wonder if the word blurb is expansive enough to include this.
Bob Casanova
Oct 9, 2018, 1:55:03 PM10/9/18
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On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 05:35:04 -0700 (PDT), the following
appeared in talk.origins, posted by satoshi
<travellin...@gmail.com>:
>Wonder if the word blurb is expansive enough to include this.
"This" being your sentence above? Why on Earth would
anything other than an article about abnormal psychology
include anything of yours?
--
Bob C.
"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
- Isaac Asimov
appeared in talk.origins, posted by satoshi
<travellin...@gmail.com>:
>Wonder if the word blurb is expansive enough to include this.
anything other than an article about abnormal psychology
include anything of yours?
--
Bob C.
"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
- Isaac Asimov
satoshi
Oct 10, 2018, 3:30:03 PM10/10/18
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On Tuesday, October 9, 2018 at 10:55:03 AM UTC-7, Bob Casanova wrote:
you may notice i do not respond or reply to every post you make
nor do I have to at all
do you feel you have accomplished something if i do not reply to a post of yours filled with things you just made up for no apparent reason that means something somehow to your benefit and my detriment?
you may notice i do not respond or reply to every post you make
nor do I have to at all
do you feel you have accomplished something if i do not reply to a post of yours filled with things you just made up for no apparent reason that means something somehow to your benefit and my detriment?
Bob Casanova
Oct 11, 2018, 2:40:03 PM10/11/18
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 12:25:16 -0700 (PDT), the following
>you may notice i do not respond or reply to every post you make
>
>nor do I have to at all
>
>do you feel you have accomplished something if i do not reply to a post of yours filled with things you just made up for no apparent reason that means something somehow to your benefit and my detriment?
Excuse me; did you just fart, or are you talking to yourself
again?
>On Tuesday, October 9, 2018 at 10:55:03 AM UTC-7, Bob Casanova wrote:
<Zero content from any post of mine>
>you may notice i do not respond or reply to every post you make
>
>nor do I have to at all
>
>do you feel you have accomplished something if i do not reply to a post of yours filled with things you just made up for no apparent reason that means something somehow to your benefit and my detriment?
again?
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