Evolution. Is it a Scandal ?
All-Seeing-I
wider scatter of values than Sibley and Ahlquist had published, and
this was just 1/8 of their data, and there was no human-chimp link.
No link? I'm shocked i tell`ya. SHOCKED!
http://digilander.libero.it/avifauna/classificazione/sequence6.htm
This makes one wonder WHAT ELSE has been exaggerated to foist the
theory of evolution upon young unsuspecting minds.
It makes one wonder about the ole` peer review thingy. THAT's for sure!
VoiceOfReason
Other than yet another example of conspiracy theory paranoia, did you
have a point?
David Fritzinger
<fb34625a-1c81-4dc2...@a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
VoiceOfReason <papa...@cybertown.com> wrote:
Yeah, it is at the top of his head, but he usually wears a hat to try to
hide it.
Kevin Anthoney
> The problems became quickly apparent -- namely, that there was a far
> wider scatter of values than Sibley and Ahlquist had published, and
> this was just 1/8 of their data, and there was no human-chimp link.
>
> No link? I'm shocked i tell`ya. SHOCKED!
>
> http://digilander.libero.it/avifauna/classificazione/sequence6.htm
>
That page looks like a replica of this page:
http://personal.uncc.edu/jmarks/DNAHYB/dnahyb1.html
except that it omits a link to the second page:
http://personal.uncc.edu/jmarks/DNAHYB/Dnahyb2.html
> This makes one wonder WHAT ELSE has been exaggerated to foist the
> theory of evolution upon young unsuspecting minds.
>
> It makes one wonder about the ole` peer review thingy. THAT's for sure!
>
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Kevin Anthoney
kanthoney/a/dsl.pipex.com
RAM
Assertions 101 again When will you ever pass the final exam. It has
only one question. It is really a Christian based course. I'll give
you the exam question. All it requires is that you answer it
honestly. It can be answered with a simple yes or no. Do you think
your God approves of your actions on TO?
wf3h
ever hear of jan hendrik schon?
what effect has he had on quantum physics?
answer: none.
it's a science thing. you wouldn't understand
and, pray tell, has there been fraud in religion? guess that proves
jesus was a liar...
John Harshman
You are noe equipped even to quote-mine.
For anyone actually interested, I think that this should help:
Felsenstein, J. 1987. Estimation of hominoid phylogeny from a DNA
hybridization data set. Journal of Molecular Evolution 26:123-131.
This is also old (20 years) news. DNA hybridization isn't too bad a
method for investigating human relationships, but it's long been
superseded by DNA sequences, all of which shows that, whatever the
weaknesses of their data or analyses, Sibley & Ahlquist were right in
their conclusion.
Frank J
> wider scatter of values than Sibley and Ahlquist had published, and
> this was just 1/8 of their data, and there was no human-chimp link.
>
> No link? I'm shocked i tell`ya. SHOCKED!
>
Your winnings, sir. ;-)
John Harshman
Skill Fragments
Does this mean he's changing his account to evade killfiles...?
Ban him, DIG...
SF.
All-Seeing-I
wrote:
> "All-Seeing-I" <allseei...@usa.com>
>
> Does this mean he's changing his account to evade killfiles...?
>
> Ban him, DIG...
>
> SF.
Get real BUTT-hole
Ye Old One
Come back when you actually find a credible site.
Madman (aka Mudbrain) is on record as claiming:-
That 3.5% actually means 25%...
That the actor Paul Newman was a creationist...
That "Dr." Kent Hovind has made lots of *scientific* discoveries...
That wars have been fought because some scientific finding discredited
some facet of some religion...
To have a "higher education" than most posters to this news group...
To understand how geologists determine the age of any given sample of
rock...
That trilobites were Cambrian mammals... [that one still makes me
laugh]
And that he has "created genes" and not evolved ape genes...
That linguists have traced all the world's languages to the Middle
East region and back to around the same time as the bible claims Noah
and his sons rebuilt mankind.
Claimed that talk.origin's moderator was a troll.
Claimed cigarettes do not cause cancer.
Now, I ask you, is this the sort of guy you would give an credence to?
Certainly I don't.
--
Bob.
raven1
He certainly seems to want to be despised.
Steven L.
I might give him a talk show though.
He would attract millions of fans.
--
Steven L.
Email: sdli...@earthlinkNOSPAM.net
Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
Ye Old One
<sdli...@earthlink.net> enriched this group when s/he wrote:
>Ye Old One wrote:
>> On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 14:29:38 -0700 (PDT), All-Seeing-I
[snip]
>>
>> Now, I ask you, is this the sort of guy you would give an credence to?
>> Certainly I don't.
>
>I might give him a talk show though.
>He would attract millions of fans.
True, but is that really the sort of show we would want to encourage?
--
Bob.
Mike Dworetsky
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Bob.
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And he also claimed that if you hold your breath underwater while swimming,
you don't use up any oxygen.
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Mike Dworetsky
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Ron O
There was some movie I saw part of that had the premise that humans
had bred themselves to the moron level, and some slacker wakes up from
suspended animation to be the smartest guy in the world. Their TV
shows seemed to consist of guys getting kicked in the balls and
everyone laughing. adman would fit right in and it would likely be
less painful than his posting to TO.
Ron Okimoto
Nashton
To weak to counter his arguments? is that how you deal with people that
don't share your fantasies?
Rodjk #613
The movie is "Idiocracy".
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy
Rodjk #613
chris thompson
wrote:
> "All-Seeing-I" <allseei...@usa.com>
>
> Does this mean he's changing his account to evade killfiles...?
>
> Ban him, DIG...
>
> SF.
No. He was very upfront about changing his handle. No banning offense
here.
Chris
chris thompson
> Skill Fragments wrote:
> > "All-Seeing-I" <allseei...@usa.com>
>
> > Does this mean he's changing his account to evade killfiles...?
>
> > Ban him, DIG...
>
> > SF.
>
> To weak to counter his arguments? is that how you deal with people that
> don't share your fantasies?
Quit bringing fantasies in the discussion please. Your mom caught you
once- isn't that enough? And stop touching that!
Chris
odin
> have a point?
Even paranoids can have enemies.
All-seeing-I
wrote:
disagreements on the subjects discussed..
He is bitching because I have 2 google accounts since bellsouth no
longer provides usenet.
I wonder how many of these ko0ks around here actually DO evade kill
files and actually DO have several Nyms but do not tell anyone..
All-seeing-I
>
> - Show quoted text -
On occasion you make some great posts Ron.
This is not one of them.
Your brain is obviously leaking
All-seeing-I
<platinum...@pants.btinternet.com> wrote:
> "Ye Old One" <use...@mcsuk.net> wrote in messagenews:unemd59l0tmija3fb...@4ax.com...
OK Mike. You just won yourself a front row seat to the looney bin with
the rest of the freaks.
Too bad. I enjoyed reading your comments.
Ron O
When are you going to get your brain fixed? How about that valid and
honest anti-evolution argument? Why do you think that you haven't
found one yet? You have tried hundreds, but they have all blown up in
your face. Are you going to put up the Moon dust argument again? How
does it affect you to find out that such an argument was bogus the day
that it first put forward? What about Osama? If you aren't a
masochist what are you? What kind of person would knowingly keep
putting up bogus arguments when they haven't found a single one that
was what they thought that it was? You put up some junk recently that
was bogus 30 years ago when the scientific creationists were using it
as part of their obfuscation scam. It wasn't even the creationi
science that they claimed to have, it was just the bogus smoke that
they would put up to fool the ignorant into thinking that they had an
argument.
So where is that honest and valid anti-evolution argument? Doesn't it
mean anything to you to understand that you can't find one? Just put
up another laugher. Osama was your last one that I recall that you
claimed was honest and valid, and that wasn't even an argument against
evolution. It was just your bogus claim about what some madman might
think or do. Osama never made any threats like that, that I have ever
heard of.
Ron Okimoto
Mike Dworetsky
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Suit yourself chum. If you would spend more time thinking and less time
spouting ridiculous statements maybe we wouldn't poke you with sticks so
much.
Ye Old One
He does have a brain - you just have mud between your ears.
Madman (aka Mudbrain) is on record as claiming:-
That 3.5% actually means 25%...
That the actor Paul Newman was a creationist...
That "Dr." Kent Hovind has made lots of *scientific* discoveries...
That wars have been fought because some scientific finding discredited
some facet of some religion...
To have a "higher education" than most posters to this news group...
To understand how geologists determine the age of any given sample of
rock...
That trilobites were Cambrian mammals... [that one still makes me
laugh]
And that he has "created genes" and not evolved ape genes...
That linguists have traced all the world's languages to the Middle
East region and back to around the same time as the bible claims Noah
and his sons rebuilt mankind.
Claimed that talk.origin's moderator was a troll.
Claimed cigarettes do not cause cancer.
Now, I ask you, is this the sort of guy you would give an credence to?
Certainly I don't.
--
Bob.
Ye Old One
Thanks for that, I will have to try and track down a copy of that
film. Looking at the trailer on IMDB it was hard to avoid the feeling
that there were several creationists form TO playing themselves in the
story.
--
Bob.
Theists think all gods but theirs are false. Atheists simply don't
make an exception for the last one.
Ye Old One
<chris.li...@gmail.com> enriched this group when s/he wrote:
>On Oct 18, 11:03 am, "Skill Fragments" <"Skill Fragments"@ech.co.uk>
>wrote:
>> "All-Seeing-I" <allseei...@usa.com>
>>
>> Does this mean he's changing his account to evade killfiles...?
>>
>> Ban him, DIG...
>>
>> SF.
>
>No. He was very upfront about changing his handle.
Well, only after he was exposed, IIRC.
>No banning offense
>here.
True, once exposed he did not try to hide it.
>
>Chris
--
Bob.
Ye Old One
Moron!
--
Bob.
People may not always remember exactly what you said, but they will
always remember just how bright you made them feel.
Ron O
Unfortunately the lawyers like Philip Johnson that are involved in the
ID/creationist scam didn't have the excuse of the lawyers in the
movie. The ID perps knew what they were doing, but did it anyway.
They may have had some other form of mental incompetence, but they
were not morons. That could probably be said of most of the anti-
evolution creationist posters on TO. In the last several years only
one of the regulars (adman) has claimed to have an honest and valid
anti-evolution argument, and that is only because he is likely a
pathological liar that seems to get his kicks out of being caught
lying and is likely crazier than the average. They all seem to know
how bad their arguments are, but they just can't help themselves.
This is a quote from Philip Johnson only after the ID perps lost in
court (2005). This statement was made years after the ID perps
started running the bait and switch scam on their own creationist
support base (2002-2003). No one ever got the promised ID science to
teach to school kids. Johnson is known as the "godfather" of the ID
movement by the other ID scam artists for his efforts in getting the
movement rolling back in the 1990s. He doesn't even appologize for
running the bogus scam for a decade. He just blames the "science" ID
perps for never coming up with any ID science to teach. What did he
think that he was selling for over a decade?
QUOTE:
I also don’t think that there is really a theory of intelligent design
at the present time to propose as a comparable alternative to the
Darwinian theory, which is, whatever errors it might contain, a fully
worked out scheme. There is no intelligent design theory that’s
comparable. Working out a positive theory is the job of the scientific
people that we have affiliated with the movement. Some of them are
quite convinced that it’s doable, but that’s for them to prove…No
product is ready for competition in the educational world.
END QUOTE:
http://sciencereview.berkeley.edu/articles.php?issue=10&article=evolution
NashT? Ray? Pagano? Anyone? Got any honest and valid anti-
evolution creationist arguments that you have been able to determine
are honest and valid? adman, do you want to try again?
Ron Okimoto
>
> --
> Bob.
>
> Theists think all gods but theirs are false. Atheists simply don't
> make an exception for the last one.- Hide quoted text -
heekster
Are you really so benighted that you don't comprehend that nobody
gives a shit about your petulant hissy fits of imbecility?
>Too bad. I enjoyed reading your comments.
Shoot yourself in the foot again. It seems to be the one thing that
you do well.
Walter Bushell
<7940cf26-9f6f-4793...@u36g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
odin <odin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Paranoid behavior does tend to make enemies.
--
A computer without Microsoft is like a chocolate cake without mustard.
Walter Bushell
<9b837563-bcfc-4a4c...@m38g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
Ron O <roki...@cox.net> wrote:
The more or less normals are trying to hold things together. Marching
Morons Cyril M. Kornbluth, the top game show was "Take it and Stick It."
matching geometric shapes, and he sends the morons to "Venus". Himself,
in the last load.