An experimental Darwinist hits the edge... Redux

[RonO]

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/talk.origins/oRdLd1bHccU/CqoaOBwVwwgJ

Eddie started the original thread linked to above 2 years ago, and it
was obvious that he never understood what he was supposed to be going on
about, and that hasn't changed in the last 2 years that he has kept this
thread active.

He has been told what the topic was about, but he just does not get it.

Instead of keep farting around, why can't IDiots like Eddie plainly
state what the issue is and what it means to IDiocy at this time? This
is not a trick, it is just what any rational person would expect from
any valid argument. Why was Behe worth quoting?

Why is something so simple, nearly impossible for IDiots to even
attempt? Why would IDiots keep going back to the scam artists that have
lied to them about IDiocy for years with no end in sight? IDiots will
bend over for the switch scam instead of demanding the ID science, but
the switch scam doesn't even mention that ID ever existed, and it is all
the IDiots have ever gotten from the ID perps when they have needed the
ID science.

If all of this is not true, why hasn't Eddie ever put forward what the
IDiot issue of this thread actually is, and what it means to IDiocy? He
obviously believed what an ID perp like Behe said about it, but he also
obviously doesn't know why it is an issue or even what the issue was.
All he wanted was to have someone keep lying to him about IDiocy because
that is all he ever expected. The latest By their fruits thread and the
link back to 2009 will tell anyone why that is all Eddie expected to get
from the Behe quote.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/talk.origins/JzUOqRMZEnI/8Z1pUFsACQAJ

What has happened to the ID scam since Johnson quit the ID scam and
admitted that the ID science never existed a decade ago? The Johnson
article was publish in 2006 after the IDiot loss in Dover, and Phillip
Johnson has never come back to publically support the ID scam since,
even though the old ID perp is still alive. What should that mean to
IDiots? Why has the bait and switch gone down 100% of the time any
IDiots needed the ID science? What do IDiots get from the guys that
sold them the ID scam when they need the ID science? Why are there
still IDiots like Eddie in the face of that reality?

Ron Okimoto

[Rolf]

"RonO" <roki...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Ron,

Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
Friedrich
Schiller.

Rolf

[RonO]

The old link to the Johnson quote is broken. This link should work.

http://berkeleysciencereview.com/read/spring-2006/

The article starts on page 31.

QUOTE:
I also don’t think that there is really a theory of intelligent design
at the present time to propose as a comparable alternative to the
Darwinian theory, which is, whatever errors it might contain, a fully
worked out scheme. There is no intelligent design theory that’s
comparable. Working out a positive theory is the job of the scientific
people that we have affiliated with the movement. Some of them are
quite convinced that it’s doable, but that’s for them to prove…No
product is ready for competition in the educational world.
END QUOTE:

QUOTE:
For his part, Johnson agrees: “I think the fat lady has sung for any
efforts to change the approach in the public schools…the courts are
just not going to allow it. They never have. The efforts to change
things in the public schools generate more powerful opposition than
accomplish anything…I don’t think that means the end of the issue at
all.” “In some respects,” he later goes on, “I’m almost relieved, and
glad. I think the issue is properly settled. It’s clear to me now that
the public schools are not going to change their line in my lifetime.
That isn’t to me where the action really is and ought to be.”
END QUOTE:

This is the Johnson that was called the godfather of the ID movement by
the other ID perps. The IDiot credited with developing the Wedge strategy.

Ron Okimoto

[RonO]

On 7/26/2016 6:47 AM, RonO wrote:

So no IDiot is going to even attempt to stop farting around and just

plainly state what the issue is and what it means to IDiocy at this

time? Do any IDiots have enough on the ball to understand what this
means? All IDiots want to do is keep getting lied to. They don't want
to understand the lies because they don't want to know that they are
lies. How sad is that?

Ron Okimoto