Disproving Creation #245: New Information in the Genome - Again!
Budikka666
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.jehovahs-witn/msg/76e9b8cdd7a9e8bc
"6. Please point to a strictly natural process that creates
information. What evidence is there that information, such as that in
DNA, could ever assemble itself? What about the 4,000 books' worth of
coded information that are in a tiny part of each of your 100 trillion
cells? If astronomers received an intelligent signal from some distant
galaxy, most people would conclude that it came from an intelligent
source. Why then doesn't the vast information sequence in the DNA
molecule of just a bacterium also imply an intelligent source? (See
pages 9 and 15.)"
Information gets into the genome via mutation and duplication. If
Brown had actually read up on the topic before he started opening his
dumb mouth he'd know this and would be making such a bloody fool of
himself:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/information/infotheory.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_duplication
http://users.rcn.com/jkimball.ma.ultranet/BiologyPages/M/Mutation_and_Evolution.html
"What about the 4,000 books' worth of coded information that are in a
tiny part of each of your 100 trillion cells"
What about the fact that 95% of that genome in every cell is junk,
dimwit? Deal with that before you open your dumb mouth again.
Budikka
AllSeeing-I
> Walt Brown's next idiotic question from:http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.jehovahs-witn/msg/76e9b8c...
>
> "6. Please point to a strictly natural process that creates
> information. What evidence is there that information, such as that in
> DNA, could ever assemble itself? What about the 4,000 books' worth of
> coded information that are in a tiny part of each of your 100 trillion
> cells? If astronomers received an intelligent signal from some distant
> galaxy, most people would conclude that it came from an intelligent
> source. Why then doesn't the vast information sequence in the DNA
> molecule of just a bacterium also imply an intelligent source? (See
> pages 9 and 15.)"
>
> Information gets into the genome via mutation and duplication. If
> Brown had actually read up on the topic before he started opening his
> dumb mouth he'd know this and would be making such a bloody fool of
>
> "What about the 4,000 books' worth of coded information that are in a
> tiny part of each of your 100 trillion cells"
>
> What about the fact that 95% of that genome in every cell is junk,
> dimwit? Deal with that before you open your dumb mouth again.
>
> Budikka
How do you know it is junk? Your silly science may not have figured
out exactly what it is
or what it does yet. As usual; science is a johnny-come-lately.
R Brown
"AllSeeing-I" <allse...@usa.com> wrote in message
news:34bbcdd9-08fc-4a75...@o4g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
The thing is, science will very probably figure it out. All it takes is time
and empirical process. Creationism, on the other hand, has figured out ...
nothing. You guys are still painting yourself blue and dancing around the
fire to appease the gods and have a good hunt. The rest is mere details.
Your last comment sounds like you're jealous of science's vigor compared to
your impotence. Looks like the new kid on the block has eaten your lunch
again. Sucks to be you.
ilbe...@gmail.com
>
> "6. Please point to a strictly natural process that creates
> information. What evidence is there that information, such as that in
> DNA, could ever assemble itself? What about the 4,000 books' worth of
> coded information that are in a tiny part of each of your 100 trillion
> cells? If astronomers received an intelligent signal from some distant
> galaxy, most people would conclude that it came from an intelligent
> source. Why then doesn't the vast information sequence in the DNA
> molecule of just a bacterium also imply an intelligent source? (See
> pages 9 and 15.)"
>
> Information gets into the genome via mutation and duplication. If
> Brown had actually read up on the topic before he started opening his
> dumb mouth he'd know this and would be making such a bloody fool of
>
> "What about the 4,000 books' worth of coded information that are in a
> tiny part of each of your 100 trillion cells"
>
> What about the fact that 95% of that genome in every cell is junk,
> dimwit? Deal with that before you open your dumb mouth again.
>
> Budikka
What about the very CO FOUNDER of the dna structure, world reknown
atheist biologist Dr. Francis Crick who affirmed the chances at 10 to
the 40,000 faith busting probability ?! This is one time where the
atheist SHOULD be believed !
Ken
> What about the very..............Mindless Daveshite snipped
What about YOU backing up YOUR worthless BS statements,
instead of posting the same incorrect data over and over and over and
over again, Dicksucka?
bpuharic
silly science?
gee. if you hate it so much why do you use a scientist invented
computer?
you're a hypocrite
bpuharic
>What about the very CO FOUNDER of the dna structure, world reknown
>atheist biologist Dr. Francis Crick who affirmed the chances at 10 to
>the 40,000 faith busting probability ?! This is one time where the
>atheist SHOULD be believed !
i'm chemist.
and crick never said that.
sorry, creationist. you're a liar
bpuharic
<GodsWi...@heavenmail.org> wrote:
>your the lier your not a chemist
really? got proof? because i have PROOF that you are a LIAR
http://www.akrionsystems.com/assets/base/pdf/reticle.pdf
>
>
>Somebody love's you.
>
>http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0006/0006_01.asp
CHICK PUBLICATIONS???
HAHAHAHAHAH...the most rabid anti catholic trash on the internet!
Budikka666
human being:
1. Demonstrate that this deity of yours exists
2. Demonstrate that this deity of yours is the only deity there is
3. Demonstrate that this deity of yours created the universe and life
on Earth
4. Demonstrate that this deity of yours is not a figment of your
imagination
Keep running, you pathetic coward.
Budikka
Budikka666
AllSeeing-I
> "AllSeeing-I" <allseei...@usa.com> wrote in message
>
> news:34bbcdd9-08fc-4a75...@o4g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 25, 2:17 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Walt Brown's next idiotic question
> > from:http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.jehovahs-witn/msg/76e9b8c...
>
> > "6. Please point to a strictly natural process that creates
> > information. What evidence is there that information, such as that in
> > DNA, could ever assemble itself? What about the 4,000 books' worth of
> > coded information that are in a tiny part of each of your 100 trillion
> > cells? If astronomers received an intelligent signal from some distant
> > galaxy, most people would conclude that it came from an intelligent
> > source. Why then doesn't the vast information sequence in the DNA
> > molecule of just a bacterium also imply an intelligent source? (See
> > pages 9 and 15.)"
>
> > Information gets into the genome via mutation and duplication. If
> > Brown had actually read up on the topic before he started opening his
> > dumb mouth he'd know this and would be making such a bloody fool of
>
> > "What about the 4,000 books' worth of coded information that are in a
> > tiny part of each of your 100 trillion cells"
>
> > What about the fact that 95% of that genome in every cell is junk,
> > dimwit? Deal with that before you open your dumb mouth again.
>
> > Budikka
> >How do you know it is junk? Your silly science may not have figured
> >out exactly what it is
> >or what it does yet. As usual; science is a johnny-come-lately.
>
> The thing is, science will very probably figure it out. All it takes is time
> and empirical process. Creationism, on the other hand, has figured out ...
> nothing. You guys are still painting yourself blue and dancing around the
> fire to appease the gods and have a good hunt. The rest is mere details.
> Your last comment sounds like you're jealous of science's vigor compared to
> your impotence. Looks like the new kid on the block has eaten your lunch
>
> - Show quoted text -
You wish.
As hard as your silly science tries,
it will never figure out "what god hath wrought"
bpuharic
<allse...@usa.com> wrote:
>
>
>As hard as your silly science tries,
>
>it will never figure out "what god hath wrought"
and yet you use 'silly science' to post to the internet.
if your religion was as powerful as science, the internet would be
2000 years old
it' aint
Budikka666
Devils Advocaat
wrote:
> On Nov 25, 2:17 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
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> > Walt Brown's next idiotic question from:http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.jehovahs-witn/msg/76e9b8c...
>
> > "6. Please point to a strictly natural process that creates
> > information. What evidence is there that information, such as that in
> > DNA, could ever assemble itself? What about the 4,000 books' worth of
> > coded information that are in a tiny part of each of your 100 trillion
> > cells? If astronomers received an intelligent signal from some distant
> > galaxy, most people would conclude that it came from an intelligent
> > source. Why then doesn't the vast information sequence in the DNA
> > molecule of just a bacterium also imply an intelligent source? (See
> > pages 9 and 15.)"
>
> > Information gets into the genome via mutation and duplication. If
> > Brown had actually read up on the topic before he started opening his
> > dumb mouth he'd know this and would be making such a bloody fool of
>
> > "What about the 4,000 books' worth of coded information that are in a
> > tiny part of each of your 100 trillion cells"
>
> > What about the fact that 95% of that genome in every cell is junk,
> > dimwit? Deal with that before you open your dumb mouth again.
>
> > Budikka
>
> What about the very CO FOUNDER of the dna structure, world reknown
> atheist biologist Dr. Francis Crick who affirmed the chances at 10 to
> the 40,000 faith busting probability ?! This is one time where the
> atheist SHOULD be believed !
Poor Dave, lying again.
Why do you do it?
Francis Crick didn't calculate that probability.
Nor did he affirm it in any book he wrote.
How long will it take before you accept these facts?
Virgil
<439b5cce-5e70-4e34...@v19g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
AllSeeing-I <allse...@usa.com> wrote:
> You wish.
No need to which fr what already is the case.
>
> As hard as your silly science tries,
>
> it will never figure out "what god hath wrought"
As hard as your creationism tries, it will never overthrow the grown of
that scientific knowledge which shows that the bible cannot be as
literally true as creationism claims.
R Brown
>You wish.
It'll never figure out how the Little Mermaid grew legs either. Same diff.
You guys hide inside a world of fairytales, mysticism and magical thinking.
Why would we even want to try and figure that out? How could we? What would
be the point? Who cares?
You're challenged by reality, as always.
Ralph
The "co-founder"??? ROTFLMAO!! ROTFLMAO!! Davey, you're as dumb as a
fence post:-)))).
Dave Oldridge
news:439b5cce-5e70-4e34...@v19g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:
> On Nov 25, 3:31 pm, "R Brown" <br...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "AllSeeing-I" <allseei...@usa.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:34bbcdd9-08fc-4a75...@o4g2000yqd.googlegroups.com.
Science will probably never figure out all of it. YOU, with your arrogant
anti-god attitude, will figure out as little of it as you can!
--
Dave Oldridge+
AllSeeing-I
wrote:
All humans need to know are 2 things:
1) God did it
2) Science didn't
bpuharic
<allse...@usa.com> wrote:
>
>All humans need to know are 2 things:
>
>1) God did it
>
>2) Science didn't
>
>
number of computers invented by god:
zero
invented by SCIENCE
ALL of them
R Brown
>1) God did it
>2) Science didn't
Science didn't "do" evolution - humans discovered evolution using science.
It's a disciplined way of thinking ... started during the enlightenment ...
you wouldn't understand.
Don't hurt yourself trying.
Just paint yourself blue, dance around the fire and scream "godditit".
Devils Advocaat
Let's cut you open and see if the phrase "Goddidit" runs all the way
through like "Blackpool" does in a stick of rock. :)
>
> 2) Science didn't
Science doesn't do things.
Scientists discover things.
Ralph
All god needed to do if he 'did it' was to leave a trail. He didn't, end
of story.
Virgil
<51f1174b-b9c2-4161...@r14g2000prj.googlegroups.com>,
AllSeeing-I <allse...@usa.com> wrote:
> > Science will probably never figure out all of it. YOU, with your arrogant
> > anti-god attitude, will figure out as little of it as you can!
> >
> > --
> > Dave Oldridge+
>
> All humans need to know are 2 things:
>
> 1) God did it
>
> 2) Science didn't
If "god" did it all, as you claim, then we are not responsible for
anything that has been done.
Science doesn't do things but it certainly allows those who know it to
do things that religion, by itself, is quite incapable of either doing
or allowing.
Science allowed us to rid the world of the scourge of smallpox, which
benefice religion had no part in.
Dave Oldridge
news:51f1174b-b9c2-4161...@r14g2000prj.googlegroups.com:
> On Nov 27, 6:43 am, Dave Oldridge <doldr...@leavethisoutshaw.ca>
> wrote:
>> AllSeeing-I <allseei...@usa.com> wrote
>> innews:439b5cce-5e70-4e34-bdad-d25
> 94ff...@v19g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:
>>
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>>
>>
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>> > On Nov 25, 3:31 pm, "R Brown" <br...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> "AllSeeing-I" <allseei...@usa.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:34bbcdd9-08fc-4a75...@o4g2000yqd.googlegroups.co
>> >>m.
>> >> .. On Nov 25, 2:17 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> > Walt Brown's next idiotic question
>> >> > from:http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.jehovahs-witn/ms
>> >> > g/7 6e9
>> > b8c...
>>
>> >> > "6. Please point to a strictly natural process that creates
>> >> > information. What evidence is there that information, such as
>> >> > that in DNA, could ever assemble itself? What about the 4,000
>> >> > books' worth of coded information that are in a tiny part of
>> >> > each of your 100 trillion cells? If astronomers received an
>> >> > intelligent signal from some distant galaxy, most people would
>> >> > conclude that it came from an intelligent source. Why then
>> >> > doesn't the vast information sequence in the DNA molecule of
>> >> > just a bacterium also imply an intelligent source? (See pages 9
>> >> > and 15.)"
>>
>> >> > Information gets into the genome via mutation and duplication.
>> >> > If Brown had actually read up on the topic before he started
>> >> > opening his dumb mouth he'd know this and would be making such a
>> >> > bloody fool of
>> >> > >himself:http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/information/infotheory.h
>> >> > >tml htt
Some of us use science to find out what God did. YOU try to use ancient
bronze-age writings that you don't understand and that you use for a
pretext for your lies and libels.
--
Dave Oldridge+
SkyEyes
And this is why your position is evil: it's contrary to the
advancement of knowledge. There are one *whale* of a lot more than "2
things" that humans need to know.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com
Yap
> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 22:07:59 -0500, bpuharic <w...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 15:09:41 -0800 (PST), "IlBeBa...@gmail.com"
> ><ilbeba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>What about the very CO FOUNDER of the dna structure, world reknown
> >>atheist biologist Dr. Francis Crick who affirmed the chances at 10 to
> >>the 40,000 faith busting probability ?! This is one time where the
> >>atheist SHOULD be believed !
>
> >i'm chemist.
>
> >and crick never said that.
>
> >sorry, creationist. you're a liar
>
Do all believers lie the same way as your scripture did?
Yap
There is no bloody sky pixie....
Yap
>
> 2) Science didn't
Science is when you use you stupid computer.
AllSeeing-I
>
> - Show quoted text -
Here is another "enlightened one" ---hahah
Their best argument is "you wouldn't understand".
Hey, the bible says something about this Brown. "Claiming to be wise,
they became fools"
How about that, eh? The bible knows everything, before you even do it!
AllSeeing-I
>
> - Show quoted text -
He did BoZo. Your silly science refuses to admit it
AllSeeing-I
wrote:
> AllSeeing-I <allseei...@usa.com> wrote innews:51f1174b-b9c2-4161...@r14g2000prj.googlegroups.com:
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> > On Nov 27, 6:43 am, Dave Oldridge <doldr...@leavethisoutshaw.ca>
> > wrote:
> >> AllSeeing-I <allseei...@usa.com> wrote
> >> innews:439b5cce-5e70-4e34-bdad-d25
Science will remain a failure as long as it refuses to give the
creator credit
BTW. Those "bronze age" writtings are the truth. God-Did-It
Devils Advocaat
So according to you there is a trail, and a trail would be physical
evidence.
Yet you have insisted there is no physical evidence for the
supernatural.
You cannot have it both ways maddy.
bpuharic
says the hypocrite who uses a scientist invented computer to complain
about science
the irony is wonderful!
bpuharic
<allse...@usa.com> wrote:
>
>
>Science will remain a failure as long as it refuses to give the
>creator credit
remain a failure?
he uses a scientist invented computer to tell us religion is the
answer?
science has unanswered questions
religion has unquestioned answers
Free Lunch
<allse...@usa.com> wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
Apparently you are one of the fools who has decided to lie and deceive
in God's name. I'm glad you are so transparently ignorant that you will
not harm anyone else with the nonsense you spew.
Free Lunch
<allse...@usa.com> wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
>On Nov 27, 3:33 pm, Ralph <mmman...@yahoo.com> wrote:
You know you are lying to us, yet you do it anyway. Why do you act as if
you don't trust your god to take care of himself?
Free Lunch
<allse...@usa.com> wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
>On Nov 27, 10:40 pm, Dave Oldridge <doldr...@leavethisoutshaw.ca>
Thank you for doing your part to make religion look bad with the lies
you tell, the foolish claims you make, your refusal to learn, and your
general anti-social attitudes. You really are doing everything you can
to drive people away from religion.
It's almost as if this has been an act on your part -- that you intend
to undermine religion by being such a fool.
The Chief Instigator
>> > >> figured out ... nothing. You guys are still painting yourself blue
It's just your complete idiocy that keeps you from realizing that you're a
mental train wreck.
--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, TX
(http://www.io.com/~patrick) AA #2237
LAST GAME: Houston 2, Milwaukee 1 (SO, November 26)
NEXT GAME: Thursday, December 2 vs. Rockford, 11:05 AM
Ralph
Yeah, compared to the success of religion?????????????????????
Budikka666
Christ:
1. Demonstrate that this deity of yours exists
2. Demonstrate that this deity of yours is the only deity there is
3. Demonstrate that this deity of yours created the universe and life
on Earth
4. Demonstrate that this deity of yours is not a figment of your
imagination
Keep running, you pathetic coward.
Budikka
Virgil
<541814d3-bd0e-401c...@e20g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
AllSeeing-I <allse...@usa.com> wrote:
Those that deny science deny whatever gods there be.
Thus creationists fit nicely into "Claiming to be wise, they became
fools"
Virgil
<4533206a-aff6-4663...@o14g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
AllSeeing-I <allse...@usa.com> wrote:
If there is god who cares about us, then science is one of its greatest
gifts to humanity, and those who reject that gift, are, in effect,
rejecting the giver.
Virgil
<be0ec8b4-ffd5-4e3a...@w18g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>,
AllSeeing-I <allse...@usa.com> wrote:
Science does not assign or deny credit, it merely tries to determine
what is the case. And it does so with much better reliability that any
religion does.
Ralph
The bible actually knows very little of the modern world. If it did it
wouldn't have unbelievable fairy tales as its main premise.
Ralph
There isn't a shred of evidence that he left. If you think there is
bring it forth, don't keep us in suspense.
Devils Advocaat
wrote:
> On Nov 25, 2:17 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
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> > Walt Brown's next idiotic question from:http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.jehovahs-witn/msg/76e9b8c...
>
> > "6. Please point to a strictly natural process that creates
> > information. What evidence is there that information, such as that in
> > DNA, could ever assemble itself? What about the 4,000 books' worth of
> > coded information that are in a tiny part of each of your 100 trillion
> > cells? If astronomers received an intelligent signal from some distant
> > galaxy, most people would conclude that it came from an intelligent
> > source. Why then doesn't the vast information sequence in the DNA
> > molecule of just a bacterium also imply an intelligent source? (See
> > pages 9 and 15.)"
>
> > Information gets into the genome via mutation and duplication. If
> > Brown had actually read up on the topic before he started opening his
> > dumb mouth he'd know this and would be making such a bloody fool of
>
> > "What about the 4,000 books' worth of coded information that are in a
> > tiny part of each of your 100 trillion cells"
>
> > What about the fact that 95% of that genome in every cell is junk,
> > dimwit? Deal with that before you open your dumb mouth again.
>
> > Budikka
>
> atheist biologist Dr. Francis Crick who affirmed the chances at 10 to
> the 40,000 faith busting probability ?! This is one time where the
> atheist SHOULD be believed !
Poor Dave, Francis Crick did no such thing.
I have pointed out the error on the website you got that from over and
over again.
Why don't you acknowledge that you have fouled up because of that
website author's mendacity?
Dave Oldridge
news:be0ec8b4-ffd5-4e3a...@w18g2000vbe.googlegroups.com:
> On Nov 27, 10:40 pm, Dave Oldridge <doldr...@leavethisoutshaw.ca>
> wrote:
>> AllSeeing-I <allseei...@usa.com> wrote
>> innews:51f1174b-b9c2-4161-95c4-ef3
> 8cd6...@r14g2000prj.googlegroups.com:
>>
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>> > On Nov 27, 6:43 am, Dave Oldridge <doldr...@leavethisoutshaw.ca>
>> > wrote:
>> >> AllSeeing-I <allseei...@usa.com> wrote
>> >> innews:439b5cce-5e70-4e34-bdad-d25
>> > 94ffb2...@v19g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> >> > On Nov 25, 3:31 pm, "R Brown" <br...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> "AllSeeing-I" <allseei...@usa.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >> >>news:34bbcdd9-08fc-4a75...@o4g2000yqd.googlegroups
>> >> >>.co m.
>> >> >> .. On Nov 25, 2:17 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net>
>> >> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> > Walt Brown's next idiotic question
>> >> >> > from:http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.jehovahs-witn
>> >> >> > /ms g/7 6e9
>> >> > b8c...
>>
>> >> >> > "6. Please point to a strictly natural process that creates
>> >> >> > information. What evidence is there that information, such as
>> >> >> > that in DNA, could ever assemble itself? What about the 4,000
>> >> >> > books' worth of coded information that are in a tiny part of
>> >> >> > each of your 100 trillion cells? If astronomers received an
>> >> >> > intelligent signal from some distant galaxy, most people
>> >> >> > would conclude that it came from an intelligent source. Why
>> >> >> > then doesn't the vast information sequence in the DNA
>> >> >> > molecule of just a bacterium also imply an intelligent
>> >> >> > source? (See pages 9 and 15.)"
>>
>> >> >> > Information gets into the genome via mutation and
>> >> >> > duplication. If Brown had actually read up on the topic
>> >> >> > before he started opening his dumb mouth he'd know this and
>> >> >> > would be making such a bloody fool of
>> >> >> > >himself:http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/information/infotheor
>> >> >> > >y.h tml htt
Science is not a failure and it is not theology.
>
> BTW. Those "bronze age" writtings are the truth. God-Did-It
Those bronze age writings are what MEN thought to promulgate back then.
None of them were intended to be science texts by their authors who had no
experience of science whatever.
And YOU use them as a pretext to lie about science.
--
Dave Oldridge+
Dave Oldridge
news:be0ec8b4-ffd5-4e3a...@w18g2000vbe.googlegroups.com:
> On Nov 27, 10:40 pm, Dave Oldridge <doldr...@leavethisoutshaw.ca>
> wrote:
>> AllSeeing-I <allseei...@usa.com> wrote
>> innews:51f1174b-b9c2-4161-95c4-ef3
> 8cd6...@r14g2000prj.googlegroups.com:
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>> > On Nov 27, 6:43 am, Dave Oldridge <doldr...@leavethisoutshaw.ca>
>> > wrote:
>> >> AllSeeing-I <allseei...@usa.com> wrote
>> >> innews:439b5cce-5e70-4e34-bdad-d25
>> > 94ffb2...@v19g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> >> > On Nov 25, 3:31 pm, "R Brown" <br...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> "AllSeeing-I" <allseei...@usa.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >> >>news:34bbcdd9-08fc-4a75...@o4g2000yqd.googlegroups
>> >> >>.co m.
>> >> >> .. On Nov 25, 2:17 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net>
>> >> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> > Walt Brown's next idiotic question
>> >> >> > from:http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.jehovahs-witn
>> >> >> > /ms g/7 6e9
>> >> > b8c...
>>
>> >> >> > "6. Please point to a strictly natural process that creates
>> >> >> > information. What evidence is there that information, such as
>> >> >> > that in DNA, could ever assemble itself? What about the 4,000
>> >> >> > books' worth of coded information that are in a tiny part of
>> >> >> > each of your 100 trillion cells? If astronomers received an
>> >> >> > intelligent signal from some distant galaxy, most people
>> >> >> > would conclude that it came from an intelligent source. Why
>> >> >> > then doesn't the vast information sequence in the DNA
>> >> >> > molecule of just a bacterium also imply an intelligent
>> >> >> > source? (See pages 9 and 15.)"
>>
>> >> >> > Information gets into the genome via mutation and
>> >> >> > duplication. If Brown had actually read up on the topic
>> >> >> > before he started opening his dumb mouth he'd know this and
>> >> >> > would be making such a bloody fool of
>> >> >> > >himself:http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/information/infotheor
>> >> >> > >y.h tml htt
Science is not a failure and it is not theology.
>
> BTW. Those "bronze age" writtings are the truth. God-Did-It
Those bronze age writings are what MEN thought to promulgate back then.
AllSeeing-I
wrote:
> AllSeeing-I <allseei...@usa.com> wrote innews:be0ec8b4-ffd5-4e3a...@w18g2000vbe.googlegroups.com:
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> > On Nov 27, 10:40 pm, Dave Oldridge <doldr...@leavethisoutshaw.ca>
> > wrote:
> >> AllSeeing-I <allseei...@usa.com> wrote
> >> innews:51f1174b-b9c2-4161-95c4-ef3
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> - Show quoted text -
I use them to eXpose science. Science no longer serves mankind. It
seeks to rule over mankind. It has a generation of people believing it
knows everything ---but it does not.
Jesus said the end times would be just like in the days of Noah.
Everything was corrupted back then. That is why God destroyed the
surface of the earth with a flood.
Science is repeating history, right now, by corrupting everything.
Just like things had become corrupted in the days of Noah.
You claim to be a Christian. Read it for yourself
Gen. 6:11-12 “The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was
filled with violence. So God looked upon the earth, and indeed it was
corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted their way on the earth.”
Matt. 24:37-38: Jesus said: “But as the days of Noah were, so also
will the coming of the Son of Man be.
You should get ready. One by one bible prophesy is coming true. Only
today the birth pains are coming harder and faster. Just as Jesus said
they would. Many will be caught off guard.
I hope you are watching the clock, Dave. You cannot say you did not
have a chance to fight the good fight.
Virgil
<3dbec10f-3a0e-4e00...@c39g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
AllSeeing-I <allse...@usa.com> wrote:
>
> > Those bronze age writings are what MEN thought to promulgate back
> > then. None of them were intended to be science texts by their
> > authors who had no experience of science whatever.
> >
> > And YOU use them as a pretext to lie about science.
> >
> > -- Dave Oldridge
>
> I use them to eXpose science.
Science exposes itself. It is entirely open. Both the Theory of
Evolution and the evidences supporting it are matters of public record.
Science no longer serves mankind.
If it does not, it is only because religious nuts like you oppose using
it to benefit mankind.
> It seeks to rule over mankind.
Actually, science attempts to free mankind from much of the pain,
drudgery and illnesses of life before science
> It has a generation of people
> believing it knows everything ---but it does not.
Scientists know that they do not know everything, which is why there
will always be new scientists.
It is you creationists who think they know everything and think
themselves so wise that there is nothing left to learn.
If given a choice between a world without the benefits of science and
world without the benefits of religion, the wise would all choose the
former, as every alleged benefit of any religion is available without
that religion, but the benefits of science would vanish without science
continuing to provide them.
bpuharic
<allse...@usa.com> wrote:
>
>I use them to eXpose science.
he uses a scientist invented computer to expose science
HAHAHAHAHA!!
Science no longer serves mankind. It
>seeks to rule over mankind. It has a generation of people believing it
>knows everything ---but it does not.
'it seeks'...kind of like auto mechanics seeks to rule over mankind.
it's a meaningless statement
>
>Science is repeating history, right now, by corrupting everything.
>Just like things had become corrupted in the days of Noah.
meaningless babbling
ever hear of a science war? nope
ever hear of a religious war? we're invovled in one right now...
kind of tells you alot about religon
he hates science because religion cant control it. he's an al qaida
christian
Dave Oldridge
news:3dbec10f-3a0e-4e00...@c39g2000yqi.googlegroups.com:
> On Nov 29, 6:41 pm, Dave Oldridge <doldr...@leavethisoutshaw.ca>
> wrote:
>> AllSeeing-I <allseei...@usa.com> wrote
>> innews:be0ec8b4-ffd5-4e3a-9939-41f
> ea05...@w18g2000vbe.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Nov 27, 10:40 pm, Dave Oldridge <doldr...@leavethisoutshaw.ca>
>> > wrote:
>> >> AllSeeing-I <allseei...@usa.com> wrote
>> >> innews:51f1174b-b9c2-4161-95c4-ef3
>> > 8cd6e8...@r14g2000prj.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> >> > On Nov 27, 6:43 am, Dave Oldridge <doldr...@leavethisoutshaw.ca>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> AllSeeing-I <allseei...@usa.com> wrote
>> >> >> innews:439b5cce-5e70-4e34-bdad-d25
>> >> > 94ffb2...@v19g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> >> >> > On Nov 25, 3:31 pm, "R Brown" <br...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> "AllSeeing-I" <allseei...@usa.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >> >> >>news:34bbcdd9-08fc-4a75...@o4g2000yqd.googlegro
>> >> >> >>ups .co m.
>> >> >> >> .. On Nov 25, 2:17 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> > Walt Brown's next idiotic question
>> >> >> >> > from:http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.jehovahs-w
>> >> >> >> > itn /ms g/7 6e9
>> >> >> > b8c...
>>
>> >> >> >> > "6. Please point to a strictly natural process that
>> >> >> >> > creates information. What evidence is there that
>> >> >> >> > information, such as that in DNA, could ever assemble
>> >> >> >> > itself? What about the 4,000 books' worth of coded
>> >> >> >> > information that are in a tiny part of each of your 100
>> >> >> >> > trillion cells? If astronomers received an intelligent
>> >> >> >> > signal from some distant galaxy, most people
>> >> >> >> > would conclude that it came from an intelligent source.
>> >> >> >> > Why then doesn't the vast information sequence in the DNA
>> >> >> >> > molecule of just a bacterium also imply an intelligent
>> >> >> >> > source? (See pages 9 and 15.)"
>>
>> >> >> >> > Information gets into the genome via mutation and
>> >> >> >> > duplication. If Brown had actually read up on the topic
>> >> >> >> > before he started opening his dumb mouth he'd know this
>> >> >> >> > and would be making such a bloody fool of
>> >> >> >> > >himself:http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/information/infoth
>> >> >> >> > >eor y.h tml htt
YOU certainly will be. As the resident false prophet in here you will,
according to the scriptures you abuse, be consigned for ever to a lake of
fire.
I do not worry about ending up in a different eternity than you. Yours
will clearly require asbestos underwear.
--
Dave Oldridge+
Ralph
Science isn't an animate object, Assman.
> Jesus said the end times would be just like in the days of Noah.
> Everything was corrupted back then. That is why God destroyed the
> surface of the earth with a flood.
There was no global flood and no one knows what Jesus said.
> Science is repeating history, right now, by corrupting everything.
> Just like things had become corrupted in the days of Noah.
>
> You claim to be a Christian. Read it for yourself
>
> Gen. 6:11-12 “The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was
> filled with violence. So God looked upon the earth, and indeed it was
> corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted their way on the earth.”
>
> Matt. 24:37-38: Jesus said: “But as the days of Noah were, so also
> will the coming of the Son of Man be.
>
> You should get ready. One by one bible prophesy is coming true. Only
> today the birth pains are coming harder and faster. Just as Jesus said
> they would. Many will be caught off guard.
>
>
> I hope you are watching the clock, Dave. You cannot say you did not
> have a chance to fight the good fight.
Oh, you really scared us shitless, Assman. We will all worry about
that:-))))).