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FastPitch
Jan 9, 2011, 6:27:24 PM1/9/11
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I am trying to understand what people are all up in a huff about speed and
traffic cams.
Here we have an economical way to enforce laws with the cheapest law
enforcement officer ever hired.
Now if you think it is nothing more than a money making proposition for the
cities and counties that use them could you explain why you have a problem
with enforcing the law? The speeds are posted and the traffic signals aren't
hidden. If you break the law you pay. That seems quite simple to me and it
does generate revenue. Manned radar traps are the same aren't they?
Are you against cameras in parking lots, banks and ATMs? These are unfair to
law breakers too, right? Shall we get rid of the license plate scanners cops
use to find stolen cars?
traffic cams.
Here we have an economical way to enforce laws with the cheapest law
enforcement officer ever hired.
Now if you think it is nothing more than a money making proposition for the
cities and counties that use them could you explain why you have a problem
with enforcing the law? The speeds are posted and the traffic signals aren't
hidden. If you break the law you pay. That seems quite simple to me and it
does generate revenue. Manned radar traps are the same aren't they?
Are you against cameras in parking lots, banks and ATMs? These are unfair to
law breakers too, right? Shall we get rid of the license plate scanners cops
use to find stolen cars?
fP
Alex Clayton
Jan 12, 2011, 12:17:24 AM1/12/11
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Nitefall
May 10, 2011, 2:15:07 PM5/10/11
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Survailance seems to be the way of the future.
Batman
Feb 11, 2012, 1:10:20 PM2/11/12
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One small problem is if you loan your car to a relative or friend and they get a ticket you end up on the hook. Camera's can only target the car, not the driver.
Frank
Feb 11, 2012, 2:10:23 PM2/11/12
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On 2/11/2012 10:10 AM, Batman wrote:
> One small problem is if you loan your car to a relative or friend and they get a ticket you end up on the hook. Camera's can only target the car, not the driver.
Not true.
> One small problem is if you loan your car to a relative or friend and they get a ticket you end up on the hook. Camera's can only target the car, not the driver.
Alex Clayton
Feb 11, 2012, 6:03:43 PM2/11/12
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On 2/11/2012 10:10 AM, Batman wrote:
> One small problem is if you loan your car to a relative or friend and they get a ticket you end up on the hook. Camera's can only target the car, not the driver.
That is not quite how it works. This is a quote from one municipality:
<If you were not driving the vehicle when the alleged violation
occurred, you may submit, under penalty of perjury, a written statement
swearing that the vehicle was not in your care, custody, or control. To
do so, print and return the >
Each one has a different way of handling these. They also take pictures
and often video. You can download it and watch it. It may come in handy
in court. The ticket will also have a date, time, and location. Should
be pretty easy to figure out who had your car then unless you just let
everyone take your car any time they want. If they are a family member
or friend they should be willing to cough up the cost, the ticket does
not go on your record. The only thing you are out is the cost. If
someone who used your car gets one and will not pay, the easy answer is
never loan them anything again.
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Frank
Feb 13, 2012, 3:12:14 AM2/13/12
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On 2/11/2012 3:03 PM, Alex Clayton wrote:
> On 2/11/2012 10:10 AM, Batman wrote:
>> One small problem is if you loan your car to a relative or friend and
>> they get a ticket you end up on the hook. Camera's can only target the
>> car, not the driver.
>
> That is not quite how it works. This is a quote from one municipality:
>
> <If you were not driving the vehicle when the alleged violation
> occurred, you may submit, under penalty of perjury, a written statement
> swearing that the vehicle was not in your care, custody, or control. To
> do so, print and return the >
>
> Each one has a different way of handling these. They also take pictures
> and often video. You can download it and watch it. It may come in handy
> in court. The ticket will also have a date, time, and location. Should
> be pretty easy to figure out who had your car then unless you just let
> everyone take your car any time they want. If they are a family member
> or friend they should be willing to cough up the cost, the ticket does
> not go on your record. The only thing you are out is the cost. If
> someone who used your car gets one and will not pay, the easy answer is
> never loan them anything again.
>
My son got a photo speeding ticket in Tacoma in wife's car recently.
> On 2/11/2012 10:10 AM, Batman wrote:
>> One small problem is if you loan your car to a relative or friend and
>> they get a ticket you end up on the hook. Camera's can only target the
>> car, not the driver.
>
> That is not quite how it works. This is a quote from one municipality:
>
> <If you were not driving the vehicle when the alleged violation
> occurred, you may submit, under penalty of perjury, a written statement
> swearing that the vehicle was not in your care, custody, or control. To
> do so, print and return the >
>
> Each one has a different way of handling these. They also take pictures
> and often video. You can download it and watch it. It may come in handy
> in court. The ticket will also have a date, time, and location. Should
> be pretty easy to figure out who had your car then unless you just let
> everyone take your car any time they want. If they are a family member
> or friend they should be willing to cough up the cost, the ticket does
> not go on your record. The only thing you are out is the cost. If
> someone who used your car gets one and will not pay, the easy answer is
> never loan them anything again.
>
Called number on ticket and found that we could deny it on the phone and
that ends it. We paid it or I should say the kid did. We were also told
and later found it does not report to insurance. Nice.
Easy way out is don't speed or run red lights.
Alex Clayton
Feb 13, 2012, 10:19:16 PM2/13/12
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since I don't speed in School Zones. Now the red light ones can be a
different story. I have never got one but, many places have been caught
"adjusting" the lights to try to make more money. They also end up
causing a lot of rear end collisions as people slam on the brakes at the
yellow light.
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Frank
Feb 14, 2012, 12:04:12 PM2/14/12
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marked revenue generating speed trap. As I told him you're the driver so
shut up, turn down the radio, get off the speaker phone, and concentrate
on your driving and the road and you won't be funding a local municipality.
The photo enforcement rear end collision argument is a red herring. Rear
end collision will only happen if you are following to close to safely
stop. WTH is a person doing following so close through an intersection
they can't avoid hitting the car in front of them if the slam on the
brakes? Its quite rare to find a defense for rear end collision that
will hold up in court.
As far as I am concerned they can put photo enforcement on every
intersection in every city. Line the roads with photo enforcement of the
speed laws. Its all good and those that can't follow the speed laws or
have to rush through intersections pay. Cheaper than hiring more cops
and buying more cop cars plus it will free them up to catch the bigger fish.
Some traffic light manufacturer should make traffic lights with built in
photo enforcement. Their sales campaign could be a cop at every
intersection! Yeah, works for me.
Alex Clayton
Feb 19, 2012, 8:57:16 PM2/19/12
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see someone fly past me,then see the flash. I think, well you are going
to get a little surprise in the mail. The rear enders are of course the
fault of the person who was too close. It's still no excuse for
localities shortening the yellow to try to raise money. It's one of
those things where the voters get what they asked for though so they
have no one to blame.
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to get some of my money.
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