Systems Generator Chain

[Michael Singer]

Jack,

Some questions re your post on this topic from a few weeks ago:

1) In your Value Cycle diagram you identify the Problem System (PS) and Problem Suppression System (PSS) but you don't identify a system associated with valuation of outcomes by the customer. Do you see that as a useful complement to the PSS?

2) Are the 5 systems in your System Generator Chain to be understood as an elaboration of the PSS?

Michael

On Nov 21, 2016, at 9:13 PM, Jack Ring <jri...@gmail.com> wrote:

Janet,

I appreciate the need for more detail. Cannot provide very much at this time. More in December.

The System Generator Chain is a bilateral Supply Chain that facilitates knowledge discovery and sharing. 

It is a variant of Bill Schindels S1, S2, S3 pattern.

I use 

S0  Operational SoS

S1  Deployed System

S2  System as Realized in Model

S3  Sociotechnical System That Generates S2, S1, S0

S4  Social System That Enables S3

S3 representing what many call the system engineering and engineering of systems activities. 

S3 generates S2 as model of the system to be realized then as realized. This model is executable so emulates the intended system and can can support investigation of dynamic and integrity limits.

S3 generates S1 which consists of the Mission, OpAvail, Operator Prep, Production, and V&V nodes. OpAvail includes logistics and all five kind of maintenance.

S3 generates S0 which is the S1 as interoperating with a constituency that equates to a necessary, sufficient and efficient system that is Fit For Purpose in the anticipated and experienced engagement.

As presented in INCOSE Webinar 90, S3 consists of three stages, a) the ConOps discovery, b) the system design, architecting, modularization and orchestration (underrepresented by 15288, SEHandbook and SEBoK) and c) the Management by Model during system usage.

S3 ensures that the right kind of S2, S1, S0 is built. An example menu of the kinds among which it must choose is

S4 generates S3 throughout the S3 period of performance. 

S4 is concerned with the competencies and capacities of humans and their values and practices. It is informed by a) the participants’ predilection to synergy, b) the size and motivational constraints described at www.starkermann.com, c) the notions of IQ and EQ and d) the basics of General Semantics as well as General Systems Theory. It is vigorously and diligently dedicated to Zero-defects using both current awareness of pathologies and of methods for decomplexifying a system and discovering incoherencies, www.ontopilot.com 

Sorry you can’t have it in a coherent book. I spend too much time in Discuss to get it done.  

Questions welcome.

Jack

On Nov 21, 2016, at 3:05 PM, Janet Singer <jsi...@soe.ucsc.edu> wrote:

Jack - Could you elaborate on the below for the SysSciWG Patterns in System Design thread?

On Nov 20, 2016, at 4:23 PM, Jack Ring <jri...@gmail.com> wrote:

Further, it will be useful to consider the pathology in each stage in the System Generator Chain, as briefly considered in the recent INCOSE Socorro Summit
S0  Operational SoS
S1  Deployed System
S2  System as Realized in Model
S3  Sociotechnical System That Generates S2, S1, S0
S4  Social System That Enables S3

[Jack Ring]

Hi Michael, 

Thanks for your interest and great questions.

The PSS includes the capability of assessing its effect on the situation and the value realized by such effect. Prior, the PS model identifies value proposiion(s) associated with various degrees of problem moderation. I recognize that most recipes for SE do not include self-assessing notions. However the people who hang out at the Omega Alpha Society (start with the end in mind) are clear on this notion.

In the Generator Chain each of the five kinds of system qualifies as a PSS for the lower numbered kind and the PS for the higher numbered one. This may be more clear if you peek at INCOSE INSIGHT issue v15.2 July, 2012,  "Systems of the Third Kind” wherein the “system” is composed of the a PS node and a PSS node  implicitly co-evolving. In the case of the real world chain S0 represents a PS while S1 represents a PSS, then S1 represents a PS while S2 represents the PSS, usw.

Interestingly, a high performance S4 typically is not ‘made’ by some other PSS but mysteriously co-occurs among humans. This is evident in jazz jam sessions and high tech startups. Unfortunately most INCOSE members think the SE people are employees of an Adult Detention Facility so get ‘assigned’ to projects. Sigh!

Does this answer your question?

Jack

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