Pace of Governance vs. Societal Stability

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Jack Ring

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Nov 22, 2017, 3:03:10 PM11/22/17
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Claims that Greater government responsiveness is paramount to maintaining stable societies are made in https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2017-11/s-ggr112117.php 
Although perhaps simply a reflection of Ashby’ s Requisite Variety it also suggests that governance must operate on multiple time scales. 
This means that System Science should give us some clues about the requisite pace depending on the pace of changes in the society, for evolving Principles, Capabilities, Practices and Technologies in order to ensure adequate, accurate and timely governance of the society. 
Although addressed in the context of a society of national-scope I think that it applies to sociotechnical societies such as a system engineering project, a SOS project and a project that intends the accelerate the competencies of the society typified by the 10,000+ members of INCOSE. 
Worth further dialog?
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Aleksandar Malečić

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Nov 24, 2017, 4:45:29 AM11/24/17
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Perhaps a more accurate description of citizens forming political opinions would be bursting back into faces of those who in the political establishment who have been arrogant and ignorant. Politics towards other countries such as Libya, Iraq, Syria, and Ukraine is hypocritical because, in my humble opinion, the most (self-)destructive political ideology are self-proclaimed liberals from western countries who have let themselves to admire that they "understand" something that people from other racially and in other ways inferior countries can't (such as what is good for allegedly less civilized people and other Russians). Violence and coercion allegedly aren't aggressive anymore if it's packaged in a politically correct language (Donald Trump's biggest crime is talking a lot). For instance, I've witnessed a discussion among liberals that colonialist wars weren't so bad if the choice in front of colonized people was to go to school or else.

What was and in a way still is "great" about western countries are the division between the state and the church and between science and religious dogma. But, the first victim of that (French) revolution was the smartest scientist at the time Antoine Lavoisier. Individuals still have some space to develop and behave as individuals even if, when pushed by hypocrisy of the establishment, they push back in an unpredictable way.

Le Tigre: I'm with Her - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLGFyxAP0QE

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