How are (or can or should) the systems sciences and systems engineering (be) related? For the web conference for the INCOSE (International Council on Systems Engineering) Complex Systems Working Group on November 22, 2010, I decided to present a personal perspective on linkages. The ideas were essentially in two parts, with
The first point reflects my view of the breadth and diversity of the system sciences. The second point reviewed the some challenges presented by John N. Warfield, who was both a pioneer in the systems engineering community and a luminary in the systems sciences community. As a guide for the web conference, I provided a context map.