Quick advice, bootable CDs for ghosting drives?

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Gav

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Sep 18, 2016, 7:21:08 PM9/18/16
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Hi All, 

I have a machine with a configuration I desperately need to transfer to a hard drive with more elbow-room. 

Back in the day, my preferred way to do this was a bootable CD with Norton Ghost. However I don't have a  current version and my old one won't believe SATA devices are actually a thing. 

What are the cool kids using for ghosting/cloning hard disks these days? 
Every live CD seems to brag that it'll do it, but I'm after something simple, and tried & tested. 

G4L (Ghost for Linux) seems like it's the right approach. Anyone else used it, or something they'd recommend instead?

Cheers,
Gavin 

Mark Pearson

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Sep 18, 2016, 9:43:26 PM9/18/16
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I use Macrium Reflect free and in most cases find it better than Norton Ghost.

Mark

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Peter Hardy

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Sep 18, 2016, 10:25:59 PM9/18/16
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You didn't say what the machine was running. :)

For OS X, the best way is to take a Time Machine backup, and restore it using the OS X recovery.

I liked Clonezilla for this for Linux systems, but haven't used it in a while. It claims to handle Windows 10, and I'd probably give it a try before anything else.

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kr...@sleepingplanet.com

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Sep 18, 2016, 10:40:12 PM9/18/16
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looks like there's more than one way to skin a cat. :0)

i use gparted live cd

i used it to image the os drive on my media server, put a faster larger drive in.

put the image back on (test that it booted) then used it to expand the partition. The drive was a mixture of fat32, and exfat. it is now xfs (i think?)

 

http://gparted.org/livecd.php

"I'm after something simple, and tried & tested. "

none of them are simple (and if they are they won't work*), but there are lots of tried and tested stories with gparted and it will support everything.

 

for a commercial solution, shadow protect is fantastic (but pricey)

https://www.storagecraft.com/au/products/shadowprotect

 

Kris

 

*bit of a sweeping statement, but if you're trying to move an os, or worse, duplicate on new hardware; that is not simple.

https://xkcd.com/1425/

Peter Hardy

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Sep 18, 2016, 10:44:30 PM9/18/16
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Huh. I've used gparted for all sorts of partition table and filesystem wrangling, but never to clone a drive. Today I learned.

Iain Chalmers

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Sep 18, 2016, 11:05:29 PM9/18/16
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> *bit of a sweeping statement, but if you're trying to move an os, or worse, duplicate on new hardware; that is not simple.

https://xkcd.com/1425/


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kr...@sleepingplanet.com

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i think their research team was quite large...and they took more than 5 years.

actually does anyone remember when google started image indexing? you played a game with another random person and you both had to guess the same keywords...

it was quite fun, even if you were just googles mechanical turk.

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Gav

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Sep 19, 2016, 7:59:06 AM9/19/16
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Thanks heaps for the advice, I'm now finished. I used G4L to do the ghosting, and then Gparted live CD to resize the partitions and take advantage of the new space on the disk. 
Only snag was it refusing to resize the partition until I changed the alignment to be cylinder based, instead of MiB. 

Also, solid state drives are amazing. Previously the boot process was an agonising ten minutes watching the computer equivalent of an out of shape athlete wheezing and panting "Just a second.... let me.... catch my... breath....almost......" as more windows stuff loads in the background. Now it's about 30 seconds from off until it's completely ready for use. 

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Iain Chalmers

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Sep 20, 2016, 3:16:30 AM9/20/16
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Welcome to 2013 Gav!

;-)

big (Spinning rust? That's like - tape drives, yeah? "Enterprise" vendors sell em to F500 companies in the thousand. No one else ever sees them...)

Peter Hardy

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Sep 20, 2016, 9:27:40 PM9/20/16
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On 2016-09-20 17:16, Iain Chalmers wrote:

(Spinning rust? That's like - tape drives, yeah? "Enterprise" vendors sell em to F500 companies in the thousand. No one else ever sees them...)
 
 
 
It's getting rarer there, too. All of the volumes in our AWS account at work are SSD backed, and I recently got to use the phrase "half a petabyte" with a straight face.
 
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Jason Ball

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Even IO controllers are going the way of the do-do.   The new MTD solutions are essentially binding SSD storage directly to the memory bus bypassing the serialisation layer and improving performance.

J.

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