Former Banks Farm Market Slated for Demolition

[Tom Wolber]

Dear SDO Members and Friends: 

Saturday's "Delaware Gazette" (10/28/17) included a public notice to the effect that the City of Delaware plans to submit a request to the State of Ohio to release funds for the demolition of the former Banks Farm Market grocery store, located at 304 London Rd. / 110 David St. The estimated cost is "up to $26,000." I have visited the building in the past and took another look at it this morning. It is a sturdy and robust brick building with "good bones" and perfectly salvageable. It might need a new roof and other upgrades, but $26,000 would go a long way to rehabilitate it. I can of course see why the City and interested developers might want to tear the building down -- it is in an attractive location, on a busy street and right next to the Howald Industrial Center, and it has quite a bit of space. However, here are some things to consider before demolishing the building: 

1. The State of Ohio has just lambasted local authorities for being more interested in demolishing hundreds and thousands of affordable homes rather than saving them. 2. MORPC is urging its members (incl. the City) to do more to save and restore existing structures instead of razing them. 3. Habitat for Humanity (at least in Franklin County) is shifting its emphasis and will commit more resources to repairing homes and fewer resources to build new ones. 4. Banks Farm Market is part of Delaware's history. Demolishing the building, once a cornerstone of the African-American community, is insensitive. (It is interesting to note that the City carefully avoided naming the structure, which might have evoked sentimental feelings. Not naming something is the ultimate form of disrespect.) 5. Gentrification is not a harmless, innocuous process. It evicts minorities and people of lower incomes and destroys buildings and communities. It is, in my mind, a form of social and ethnic cleansing that is inappropriate in the 21st century. In Delaware, dozens of homes have been removed over the past several years, leaving painful gaps in the older neighborhoods. 

In my view, demolition plans for 304 London Rd. / 110 David St. should be tabled. Instead, I would like to see a conversation about possible future uses for the building and how to save and rehabilitate it first. How about a little museum for African-American history and the Underground Railway, for instance? I am sure that residents have a lot of possible ideas, but so far no one has asked them. 

Tom Wolber 

10/30/17 

[Marianne Gabel]

For a new commerical use, what about --- a FARM MARKET? Considering all the traffic that goes past on a daily basis to and from the Industrial Park, would a refreshed, modernized farm market (perhaps in concert with Stratford Ecological Center's farm market?) be a healthy, viable business? 

Is the figure of $26,000 based on accurate informed information?

​I agree that first turning to residents for their thoughts would be a good idea.

Marianne​

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[jerrygeist]

Tom's analysis of the place and his suggestion ( a museum) are fine. Finding money should come from the community through donations.  I think it has  been on the market for sale for quite a long time, maybe two years. No takers!

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[John E Krieger]

I shopped at the Banks Market many times when it was open - best BBQ ribs I ever ate!  I met several members of the Banks family and chatted with them about their family history, that was displayed in photographs hanging on the wall behind the counter.

I think the best use of the building would be a museum dedicated to the contribution the Banks family and other AA families have made to the city of Delaware.  It could also be used as a Farm Market in the summer

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[Abbey Trimble]

Hi, 

I'm one of the Creating Healthy Communities Coordinators at the Health District and I would be interested in talks with the community and staff at the City to consider a healthy food option for this site or for the neighborhood.  I think it might be worth looking at history and possible future for a farmer's market or something similar.  This area of town is a food desert and has been on my mind since I started in this position.  The Banks Farm Market may not be the best option for healthy food choices for the community but would hate to miss the opportunity to consider it.  

Thanks, 

Abbey Trimble

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[jerrygeist]

Abbey also has a good option not only for the Banks Market but for the area involved. 

Jerry Geist

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[John E Krieger]

Is this a done deal, raising the market, or is there time to make a pitch to consider other options.  Also, does anyone know how the Banks family feels about this?

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[jerrygeist]

John has asked some important questions. I remember meeting Mr. Banks a few times at his market. Once he retired, I've lost touch with him. I've been assuming there is time to consider other options, but perhaps he should be asked.

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[John E Krieger]

I would be very interested in helping to pursue this.  It's an opportunity to do something meaningful and beneficial for the community.  But I don't know how to proceed.

If someone has the answer, or knows someone who does, contact me.  I will do what I can to help make this happen.

John

 

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[Tom Wolber]

Re: Banks Farm Market at 304 London Rd. 

I am not aware of anyone who has had direct conversations with the City about the former Banks Farm Market. However, I am pretty sure "they" heard us and perhaps have already discussed the issue internally. City Council and City Staff are always open and willing to listen (input), which is certainly positive. However, as far as responses are concerned there is often what many perceive as a lack of communication (output) and transparency. In this case, too, the City has so far provided no rationale. Banks Farm Market is not been referred to as a "blighted" and/or "condemned" building. Is this an example of eminent domain taking place on behalf of a secret developer who has emerged? Who knows!? In the absence of facts, people start to speculate. According to the ORC, executive sessions should be the exception rather than the rule, but Important decisions are routinely done behind closed doors. As a result, we have no idea what's on the City's mind at this point. It's a mystery. 

The original public notice (dated & published 10/30) stated that "on or about, but not before, November 7, 2017, the City of Delaware will submit a request to the State of Ohio for the release of Federal funds..." In other words, the request has not yet been submitted, and there is still time to debate the issue further if the City chooses to do so. Of course, submitting the request could also be delayed if there are valid reasons. For example, residents might want to request A PUBLIC HEARING about the future of Banks Farm Market, and perhaps City Council is even willing to honor such a request. However, none of the many historic and current data points available to me indicates that City Council is interested in reconsidering its current aggressive approach to removing structures (and occupants) it considers inferior. 

Tom W., 

11/2/17 

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[Marianne Gabel]

Tom, I think it would be useful to reach out to the Banks family, the Second Ward Community Initiative, Liberty Community Center,  maybe Woodward Elementary PTO, Rev. Tracey Sumner, to think of a few. But before doing that, I think it would be useful to get the basic facts straight from the city about what they want, why they want it, what private interests are behind it if any, how far the plan has gone, etc.

I'd be glad to help ... although the next two weeks are crammed with CCL stuff. 

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[Marian Jacques]

Is the building in the 2nd ward? If so, maybe SWCI would want to weigh in.

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[David Soliday]

There's a term for not mentioning someone's name, especially when it's a person of color: erasure. It's what you're doing when you say, "I don't see race--I'm color blind." In response, movements like #sayhername work to hold the media accountable. We need to hold City Council accountable, and remind them of what they're actually doing.

Meanwhile, reaching out to the Banks, and other people of color on our near south side, to remind them that they are also valuable members of our Community, is paramount. I'd also like to help. Perhaps a letter to the editor would raise awareness?

David

[David M. Efland]

Marianne – I am just getting back through this email chain and feel compelled to respond at this point.  First, thank you for being the first I read on this chain who has bothered to ask the question – what are the actual facts in this case?

 

In my opinion this should have been the very first question asked, but it was not unfortunately.  I have come to appreciate that many Sustainable Delaware members take an approach of gathering facts, learning from a wide variety of resources, and then engagement and education on an issue.  I would hope that would continue to be the case moving forward rather than a few posts I read herein which have several accusatorial, conspiracy theory-minded musings masquerading as facts or ‘unknowns’.  I find these unacceptable and completely unhelpful to the situation.

 

That said, the facts from the Planning and Community Development Department’s perspective are these:

 

The Banks are wonderful people and ran what many of us considered to be a fantastic little market for many years – many of us were sad to see it close several years ago.  The property had been marketed for sale for quite some time with no buyers stepping forward as we understand it. This was likely due in part, we came to find out, because the building is in very, very bad shape.  The first floor is literally in the basement having collapsed and the basement is full of water causing the mechanical systems to be ruined, among other building, safety, and maintenance code items.  Our building official of several decades and expert in construction and codes, Jerry Warner, was compelled to condemn the structure as a result.  My outstanding staff, including Dianne Guenther who is a planner and grant expert, took the extra time and effort to contact the Banks to discuss the situation.  The Banks expressed the clear understanding that the structure had become a significant burden (and indeed liability)  to them and they understood its condition.  However, (not that it is anyone’s business herein) they noted their life/health circumstances and what they, as a family, are currently going through. They expressed the desire for discretion in regard to the property circumstances.

 

My staff decided, out of respect for the family and after listening to their desires, not to placard the structure with condemnation signs as a result. Staff worked hard to identify and work through the process of utilizing a grant that would allow the structure to be demolished (there is a required ad published subsequently in the paper with template language that we are not allowed to change per the State of Ohio – the only outcome  listed is structure demolished so there should be no confusion as to what the intent is at all).  This leaves the control of the property in the Banks’ hands, removes the condemned unsafe structure leaving a viable lot, relieves the Banks of this burden, and does not cost the Banks any money to remove.  Nor does it, because of the nature of the grant, place a lien against the property.  The Banks have expressed appreciation to my staff on several occasions for their discretion and efforts to find a solution that ultimately does not cost them as they need the time and money to address their family needs as we understand it.  We have not presumed what the Banks may or may not do with their property in the future, but rather have worked, as is our mandate and job, toward solving a code enforcement and safety issue within our community.  We have done this in partnership with the property owner in this case. That has been and continues to be the only interest we have in this situation. 

 

Some of the insinuations and musings contained in this email chain have been very difficult and upsetting for myself and my staff to read and distinctly unhelpful toward the situation.  My staff are outstanding and tireless workers for our community.  My best advice to those on this email group is to be sympathetic to the situation, do not substitute your opinion for that of the property owner, and be discreet.  If you feel this situation is a concern of yours at all, I would recommend trying to simply love and support a great Delaware family at this time.

 

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On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Tom Wolber <tkwo...@owu.edu> wrote:

Dear SDO Members and Friends: 

 

Saturday's "Delaware Gazette" (10/28/17) included a public notice to the effect that the City of Delaware plans to submit a request to the State of Ohio to release funds for the demolition of the former Banks Farm Market grocery store, located at 304 London Rd. / 110 David St. The estimated cost is "up to $26,000." I have visited the building in the past and took another look at it this morning. It is a sturdy and robust brick building with "good bones" and perfectly salvageable. It might need a new roof and other upgrades, but $26,000 would go a long way to rehabilitate it. I can of course see why the City and interested developers might want to tear the building down -- it is in an attractive location, on a busy street and right next to the Howald Industrial Center, and it has quite a bit of space. However, here are some things to consider before demolishing the building: 

 

1. The State of Ohio has just lambasted local authorities for being more interested in demolishing hundreds and thousands of affordable homes rather than saving them. 2. MORPC is urging its members (incl. the City) to do more to save and restore existing structures instead of razing them. 3. Habitat for Humanity (at least in Franklin County) is shifting its emphasis and will commit more resources to repairing homes and fewer resources to build new ones. 4. Banks Farm Market is part of Delaware's history. Demolishing the building, once a cornerstone of the African-American community, is insensitive. (It is interesting to note that the City carefully avoided naming the structure, which might have evoked sentimental feelings. Not naming something is the ultimate form of disrespect.) 5. Gentrification is not a harmless, innocuous process. It evicts minorities and people of lower incomes and destroys buildings and communities. It is, in my mind, a form of social and ethnic cleansing that is inappropriate in the 21st century. In Delaware, dozens of homes have been removed over the past several years, leaving painful gaps in the older neighborhoods. 

 

In my view, demolition plans for 304 London Rd. / 110 David St. should be tabled. Instead, I would like to see a conversation about possible future uses for the building and how to save and rehabilitate it first. How about a little museum for African-American history and the Underground Railway, for instance? I am sure that residents have a lot of possible ideas, but so far no one has asked them. 

 

Tom Wolber 

10/30/17 

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[Tom Wolber]

Dear SDO Members & Friends: 

I appreciate David Efland's detailed explanation. It would have been distinctly helpful to have had the basic information as soon as the issue surfaced. After all, the original post was sent out 12 days ago on Oct. 30. Making this an ad hominem issue, however, is a strategy to distract from the real issue that I have attempted to raise several times over the years -- the aggressive demolition of undesirable structures in certain neighborhoods within the City of Delaware. Please note that David Efland and the City have yet to respond to the main points of the original post. If possible, I'd like to see a complete list of all condemned and demolished properties and their addresses over the past 10 years, let's say. David Efland also references Jerry Warner who "was compelled to condemn the [Banks Farm Market] structure." Are there specific rubrics and standards used to make such a determination? Is the City willing to share its assessment / evaluation criteria and standards with the public? It is possible that the City's approach is indeed the best course of action, but if so is not fully aligned with the emerging consensus of what to do with so-called blighted homes. The State of Ohio, MORPC, and Habitat for Humanity are all recommending a better balance. 

Tom Wolber 

11/10/17 

On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Tom Wolber <tkwo...@owu.edu> wrote:

Hi Cindi & Shirley: 

Thought you might be interested in this email by David Efland, City Planning Director. It explains a few things. 

Tom Wolber 

11/10/17 

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[David Soliday]

Thank you, David, for the helpful explanation. I'm sorry if my contributions to this conversation have been difficult or upsetting to you or your staff.

David Soliday

[KMVogt]

Thank you so much David for clarifying this issue with the facts.

It is clear from this email that the property in question is still privately held and while the city is responsible for public safety, it is the property owner's right to do what they feel is necessary with their property. I personally do not like to see historic buildings removed, however, I understand that if it is no longer structurally sound that restoration would be far more expensive than removal and rebuild.  Look at the old church at 315 and 23, it is going to cost around a million dollars to rehabilitate it to a useful function and it doesn't look that bad from the outside. I dislike it when I see people who own a beautiful historic home and then slap vinyl siding on it and replace the windows with modern "efficient" windows, from an architectural aesthetic that is horrible. But it is not my property and I have nothing other than my opinion to say about it.

I feel that if the someone brings up the such a situation that they should be looking harder for facts from the correct sources. Unfortunately jumping to conclusions seems to be the thing to do these days.  Maybe this is a result of our current polarized society, I think people should be looking for common ground in the middle as I believe that is where we will find a way to move forward together. 

Matt Vogt

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