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Guy Barry
Mar 28, 2012, 1:28:57 PM3/28/12
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OK, look. I posted something to the group at the weekend because I'd
actually had an interesting conversation with a Jehovah's Witness
(which I thought was remarkable in itself). But really that's not the
issue.
Ignoring the time I spent on the pre-split group, I've spent 13 years
on and off talking to you all. And you've become a very important
group of people in my life.
If I have an issue that concerns me in any way, and there isn't a
convenient niche to fit it into, I come here. I know I'll always get
a sympathetic hearing. Ssm (and its predecessor) are well-known for
giving out "tough love" but nonetheless I always appreciate the advice
I'm given here. You're like extended family to me.
And I was a virtual pariah on the group for years. Can you imagine
Steve Chaney writing to you in a similar fashion?
If I had the money, I'd come over to the next BoN. I can't because I
spend much of my life unemployed. But you're good people. You're
always there for me, and you're remarkably forgiving.
I won't say any more now. Thanks for being there.
Guy
actually had an interesting conversation with a Jehovah's Witness
(which I thought was remarkable in itself). But really that's not the
issue.
Ignoring the time I spent on the pre-split group, I've spent 13 years
on and off talking to you all. And you've become a very important
group of people in my life.
If I have an issue that concerns me in any way, and there isn't a
convenient niche to fit it into, I come here. I know I'll always get
a sympathetic hearing. Ssm (and its predecessor) are well-known for
giving out "tough love" but nonetheless I always appreciate the advice
I'm given here. You're like extended family to me.
And I was a virtual pariah on the group for years. Can you imagine
Steve Chaney writing to you in a similar fashion?
If I had the money, I'd come over to the next BoN. I can't because I
spend much of my life unemployed. But you're good people. You're
always there for me, and you're remarkably forgiving.
I won't say any more now. Thanks for being there.
Guy
Allison Turner-
Mar 28, 2012, 2:35:36 PM3/28/12
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on 28 Mar 2012 13:28:57 -0400, Guy Barry stated:
very much.
>If I have an issue that concerns me in any way, and there isn't a
>convenient niche to fit it into, I come here. I know I'll always get
>a sympathetic hearing. Ssm (and its predecessor) are well-known for
>giving out "tough love" but nonetheless I always appreciate the advice
>I'm given here. You're like extended family to me.
Families are a really good thing. I've managed to find three or
so (this group, my birth family, and the crowd that hangs out at
my house), and I really appreciate all of them.
>And I was a virtual pariah on the group for years.
But so much fun to play cat 'n mouse with ;)
>Can you imagine
>Steve Chaney writing to you in a similar fashion?
>
>If I had the money, I'd come over to the next BoN. I can't because I
>spend much of my life unemployed. But you're good people. You're
>always there for me, and you're remarkably forgiving.
>
>I won't say any more now. Thanks for being there.
No problem. Being there is what these folks are good at.
Was just "there" three hours ago for someone else. Man is he
having a rough life. And it doesn't help that he's unintentionally
alienated many of the people he called friends. *Phew!* But he
voluntarily gave a dangerous item into my hands for safekeeping, so
I think he'll be okay. Rough road ahead, but probably okay.
--
..
>
>OK, look. I posted something to the group at the weekend because I'd
>actually had an interesting conversation with a Jehovah's Witness
>(which I thought was remarkable in itself). But really that's not the
>issue.
>
>Ignoring the time I spent on the pre-split group, I've spent 13 years
>on and off talking to you all. And you've become a very important
>group of people in my life.
This is a great bunch, isn't it? I certainly appreciate everyone,
>OK, look. I posted something to the group at the weekend because I'd
>actually had an interesting conversation with a Jehovah's Witness
>(which I thought was remarkable in itself). But really that's not the
>issue.
>
>Ignoring the time I spent on the pre-split group, I've spent 13 years
>on and off talking to you all. And you've become a very important
>group of people in my life.
very much.
>If I have an issue that concerns me in any way, and there isn't a
>convenient niche to fit it into, I come here. I know I'll always get
>a sympathetic hearing. Ssm (and its predecessor) are well-known for
>giving out "tough love" but nonetheless I always appreciate the advice
>I'm given here. You're like extended family to me.
so (this group, my birth family, and the crowd that hangs out at
my house), and I really appreciate all of them.
>And I was a virtual pariah on the group for years.
>Can you imagine
>Steve Chaney writing to you in a similar fashion?
>
>If I had the money, I'd come over to the next BoN. I can't because I
>spend much of my life unemployed. But you're good people. You're
>always there for me, and you're remarkably forgiving.
>
>I won't say any more now. Thanks for being there.
Was just "there" three hours ago for someone else. Man is he
having a rough life. And it doesn't help that he's unintentionally
alienated many of the people he called friends. *Phew!* But he
voluntarily gave a dangerous item into my hands for safekeeping, so
I think he'll be okay. Rough road ahead, but probably okay.
--
..
Guy Barry
Mar 29, 2012, 2:24:42 AM3/29/12
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[Subject intended as "no more nematodes" - damn!]
On Mar 28, 7:35 pm, Allison Turner- <beton...@sover.net> wrote:
> This is a great bunch, isn't it? I certainly appreciate everyone,
> very much.
So do I. It's strange, because offhand I can't really think of
anything in particular that regular posters to this group have in
common, except possibly a high level of individualism. And yet
somehow the group coheres (although it's sad that we've lost so many
people in the last few years).
> Families are a really good thing. I've managed to find three or
> so (this group, my birth family, and the crowd that hangs out at
> my house), and I really appreciate all of them.
I'm not particularly close to my birth family. My grandparents
brought me up, and they're dead now. I've pretty much lost touch with
most of my uncles and aunts and cousins who I used to know when I was
a child. My father's dead. And I simply don't get on with my mother,
to the extent that I avoid contacting her now, even though she lives a
short distance away. (She's out of the country at the moment anyway.)
[me]
but you've no idea how much those exchanges scarred me. They went on
and on for years and they seemed so unrelenting. I was terrified it
was all going to start up again recently when we had that discussion
about Piglet's re-naming. It shows how easy it can be to
unintentionally cross people's boundaries, however well you think you
know them.
> No problem. Being there is what these folks are good at.
Yup.
> Was just "there" three hours ago for someone else. Man is he
> having a rough life. And it doesn't help that he's unintentionally
> alienated many of the people he called friends.
I *keep* doing that. That's one of my major problems - funnily
enough, I was thinking of posting to the group about it. It's
particularly easy over electronic media like this where you can't see
the other person's reaction. It happened to me at work recently,
which is one of the probable reasons why I lost my job, although I
can't really discuss that in public at the moment.
I think one reason is that I don't really experience alienation
myself. If I get annoyed with a friend, I just walk away, think about
something else for a while, come back the next day, apologize and
everything's forgotten. It seems such a waste to maintain a distance.
Also, empathy doesn't come naturally to me; I have to work at it. I
usually sit down and explicitly ask myself "how would I feel in that
situation?" And since I don't really experience alienation, I have a
hard time imagining how someone else would experience it.
Do you (or other posters) experience alienation much?
>*Phew!* But he
> voluntarily gave a dangerous item into my hands for safekeeping, so
> I think he'll be okay. Rough road ahead, but probably okay.
That's good. It's always good to feel valued.
Guy
On Mar 28, 7:35 pm, Allison Turner- <beton...@sover.net> wrote:
> This is a great bunch, isn't it? I certainly appreciate everyone,
> very much.
anything in particular that regular posters to this group have in
common, except possibly a high level of individualism. And yet
somehow the group coheres (although it's sad that we've lost so many
people in the last few years).
> Families are a really good thing. I've managed to find three or
> so (this group, my birth family, and the crowd that hangs out at
> my house), and I really appreciate all of them.
brought me up, and they're dead now. I've pretty much lost touch with
most of my uncles and aunts and cousins who I used to know when I was
a child. My father's dead. And I simply don't get on with my mother,
to the extent that I avoid contacting her now, even though she lives a
short distance away. (She's out of the country at the moment anyway.)
[me]
> >And I was a virtual pariah on the group for years.
>
>
> But so much fun to play cat 'n mouse with ;)
Oh, but it *wasn't* fun really. I made light of it a lot of the time,
but you've no idea how much those exchanges scarred me. They went on
and on for years and they seemed so unrelenting. I was terrified it
was all going to start up again recently when we had that discussion
about Piglet's re-naming. It shows how easy it can be to
unintentionally cross people's boundaries, however well you think you
know them.
> No problem. Being there is what these folks are good at.
> Was just "there" three hours ago for someone else. Man is he
> having a rough life. And it doesn't help that he's unintentionally
> alienated many of the people he called friends.
enough, I was thinking of posting to the group about it. It's
particularly easy over electronic media like this where you can't see
the other person's reaction. It happened to me at work recently,
which is one of the probable reasons why I lost my job, although I
can't really discuss that in public at the moment.
I think one reason is that I don't really experience alienation
myself. If I get annoyed with a friend, I just walk away, think about
something else for a while, come back the next day, apologize and
everything's forgotten. It seems such a waste to maintain a distance.
Also, empathy doesn't come naturally to me; I have to work at it. I
usually sit down and explicitly ask myself "how would I feel in that
situation?" And since I don't really experience alienation, I have a
hard time imagining how someone else would experience it.
Do you (or other posters) experience alienation much?
>*Phew!* But he
> voluntarily gave a dangerous item into my hands for safekeeping, so
> I think he'll be okay. Rough road ahead, but probably okay.
Guy
Guy Barry
Mar 29, 2012, 2:36:27 PM3/29/12
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I would like to make a tatement relating to my recent pot entitled "No
more []". I appreciate that thi may have caued an element of ditree
for many of the regular poter to thi group. However, I conider it
eential to clarify why I regard the letter in quetion a uperfluou to
requirement.
Over the many year that I have poted to oc.ingle.moderated, I have
alway trived to treat all letter with equal repect. However, I have
eriou concern regarding the letter in quetion and I am orry that I can
no longer ue thi letter in any ubmiion to thi group.
It i of coure very hard to make thi udden change. I am required to
make a eamle tranition from my uual proe to a tate of -lene. To ome
of you thi may appear enele, and maybe I eem to be an ahole.
Let me reaure you that there are good reaon for doing o and that the
iue i rather a preing one.
I plan to take my cae to the UA, firt to the Eat Coat and then
hopefully croing the Miiippi to the Wet Coat. I aume you undertand my
poition.
egardle of anything I have aid above you can be reaured that I will
alway be a loyal contributor to m.
Bet wihe
Guy
P.. orry if I've pied anyone off over thi.
more []". I appreciate that thi may have caued an element of ditree
for many of the regular poter to thi group. However, I conider it
eential to clarify why I regard the letter in quetion a uperfluou to
requirement.
Over the many year that I have poted to oc.ingle.moderated, I have
alway trived to treat all letter with equal repect. However, I have
eriou concern regarding the letter in quetion and I am orry that I can
no longer ue thi letter in any ubmiion to thi group.
It i of coure very hard to make thi udden change. I am required to
make a eamle tranition from my uual proe to a tate of -lene. To ome
of you thi may appear enele, and maybe I eem to be an ahole.
Let me reaure you that there are good reaon for doing o and that the
iue i rather a preing one.
I plan to take my cae to the UA, firt to the Eat Coat and then
hopefully croing the Miiippi to the Wet Coat. I aume you undertand my
poition.
egardle of anything I have aid above you can be reaured that I will
alway be a loyal contributor to m.
Bet wihe
Guy
P.. orry if I've pied anyone off over thi.
songbird
Mar 29, 2012, 4:44:39 PM3/29/12
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Guy Barry wrote:
...
songbird
...
> P.. orry if I've pied anyone off over thi.
haha,
songbird
Guy Barry
Mar 30, 2012, 3:08:37 AM3/30/12
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more good words I could have got in ("assess", "possess", "success"
come to mind). Sorry for a couple of typos by the way - "ditree"
should have been "ditre" ("distress"), and I've no idea why I missed
out the initial "r" of "regardless".
Have you ever come across a children's book by James Thurber called
"The Wonderful O"? I've just remembered it.
Guy
songbird
Apr 4, 2012, 11:43:40 AM4/4/12
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Guy Barry wrote:
it is ok to ignore perfection of results.
> Have you ever come across a children's book by James Thurber called
> "The Wonderful O"? I've just remembered it.
no i haven't. it wasn't in the library collection
when i worked there and i never saw it come through
inter-library loan.
songbird
>songbird wrote:
>> Guy Barry wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>
>> > P.. orry if I've pied anyone off over thi.
>>
>> haha,
>
>> Guy Barry wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>
>> > P.. orry if I've pied anyone off over thi.
>>
>> haha,
>
> Thanks for that - it was great fun to write! I'm still thinking of
> more good words I could have got in ("assess", "possess", "success"
> come to mind). Sorry for a couple of typos by the way - "ditree"
> should have been "ditre" ("distress"), and I've no idea why I missed
> out the initial "r" of "regardless".
some parts of having fun can mean that
> more good words I could have got in ("assess", "possess", "success"
> come to mind). Sorry for a couple of typos by the way - "ditree"
> should have been "ditre" ("distress"), and I've no idea why I missed
> out the initial "r" of "regardless".
it is ok to ignore perfection of results.
> Have you ever come across a children's book by James Thurber called
> "The Wonderful O"? I've just remembered it.
when i worked there and i never saw it come through
inter-library loan.
songbird
Guy Barry
Apr 5, 2012, 2:16:07 AM4/5/12
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> > Have you ever come across a children's book by James Thurber called
> > "The Wonderful O"? I've just remembered it.
>
> no i haven't. it wasn't in the library collection
> when i worked there and i never saw it come through
> inter-library loan.
http://www.nybooks.com/books/imprints/childrens/the-wonderful-o/
> > "The Wonderful O"? I've just remembered it.
>
> no i haven't. it wasn't in the library collection
> when i worked there and i never saw it come through
> inter-library loan.
I haven't seen it since I was a child. I loved reading it then (and
it inspired me to write my own version, based around E instead of O).
I'd love to get hold of it again.
Guy
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