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Richard Jasper

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(1) We finally bought the (no longer) new Madonna CD. Mine and Jeremy's
favorite track is "Ray of Light," Emily prefers "Frozen," David and
Saki have yet to offer an opinion.

(2) My favorite line in "Ray of Light" is "I am just a disco ball," which
isn't really there, but that's what it sounds like and it seems
appropriate, given the context...

(3) Pensacola for Memorial Day was more wonderful than usual, thanks to
perfect weather and full attendance. The funda-nazi's were out in
force, of course, but that gave me an idea for next year...

(4) "Godzilla" was grreeaaat!!

(5) So was "Deep Impact," although a couple of things troubled me. For
example, one comet fragment was supposed to hit the North Atlantic,
the other northwestern Canada. But the first fragment flew OVER the
folks in Virginia Beach, which would suggest it was coming in from the
SW, not the SE. In which case wouldn't it have made sense that the 2nd
fragment would hit, in, oh, Sweden, or some place?

(6) Ditto, at the beginning of "Deep Impact" the teenage astronomers were
apparently living in Richmond, not Va. Beach. Last I heard Richmond
and Va. Beach were more than 8 miles apart...?

rpj


Clayton Colwell

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Richard Jasper (lib...@paladin.cc.emory.edu) wrote:

: (4) "Godzilla" was grreeaaat!!

For me, the only thing great was that I paid matinee prices
instead of full prices. (OK, OK, there was *one* scene I
liked -- amazing what one can do with gumballs, eh?)

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JTEM

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Richard Jasper (lib...@paladin.cc.emory.edu) wrote:

: (4) "Godzilla" was grreeaaat!!

The roomie saw it. He thought it sucked big time.

: (5) So was "Deep Impact," although a couple of things troubled me.

The skewered emotions, the conflict between what was a, um, relatively
"happy" ending pitted against human suffering on a massive scale. A
daughter reunited with her father on a beach against the backdrop of
disaster. The bond between two young lovers holds up against the forces at
work against them. I always said beauty, true beauty, had an element of
rarity or fragility. "Frail." Another word for it might be "tender."
Tender moments, soft words, our most vulnerable absects revealed right
along with uncontrolled power on a scale difficult for us to imagine.

"Troubled." Yes. I understand.

: For


: example, one comet fragment was supposed to hit the North Atlantic,
: the other northwestern Canada. But the first fragment flew OVER the
: folks in Virginia Beach, which would suggest it was coming in from
: the SW, not the SE.

Um. Well, that would have been my second guess.


John

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Clayton Colwell

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Jess Anderson (ande...@ambach.macc.wisc.edu) wrote:


: Clayton Colwell:
: >Richard Jasper:

: >>(4) "Godzilla" was grreeaaat!!

: >For me, the only thing great was that I paid matinee prices
: >instead of full prices.

: I liked that too, went the first day (nice that I don't have to
: work afternoons anymore).

: >(OK, OK, there was *one* scene I liked -- amazing what one can do
: >with gumballs, eh?)

: I thought there was a fairly high camp index at a number of
: places. It was too bad, in retrospect, that the greatest FX shot
: in the whole film had been shown in the trailers: Godzilla's bow
: wave as it came up to that fishing pier.

: The cineplex where I saw it had just been completely refurbished
: and upgraded, and the sound was spectacular.

: Another thing I liked was the total incompetence of the military.
: I enjoyed it immensely, much more than "Deep Impact". But it's
: "Armageddon" I wanna see!

: --
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Gene Ward Smith

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Jess Anderson (ande...@ambach.macc.wisc.edu) wrote:

: I thought there was a fairly high camp index at a number of
: places. It was too bad, in retrospect, that the greatest FX shot
: in the whole film had been shown in the trailers: Godzilla's bow
: wave as it came up to that fishing pier.

I thought they did a wonderful trailer with a group of kids being
lectured about T Rex in the Museum of Natual History, and that wasn't
in the movie at all.

: Another thing I liked was the total incompetence of the military.

That is traditional, and it wasn't taken to the extremes that it
usually is. I thought that considering it was mostly stolen from
Jurassic Park and The Lost World, it was still pretty good.

Shawn

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The only thing the recent "godzilla" movie had in
common with previous Godzilla stories was the
name. 40-some years of tradition... gone.

Problems with the movie:

Helicopters can avoid giant dirt-eating lizards by
flying up.

"LGB" stands for "Lazer Guided Bomb." Readying
one requires a lazer source to shine on the target
and then you drop it. Dropping one doesn't result
in a missile firing off.

Sidewinder missiles (AIM-9) use a proximity fuze to
detonate and their warheads aren't strong enough to
topple a house, let alone a skyscraper. There is a
metal device surrounding the warhead that acts as
an airborne chainsaw that cuts target aircraft into bits.
Dodging lizards notwithstanding.

If you destroy a subway tunnel and electric cables are
spitting sparks, what is the likelyhood that a Pepsi
machine, sitting on top of a huge heap of destroyed
cement, will still be lit?

Maverick missiles are TV guided but at least CAN
destroy a building.

Why did the beast have to be a "him?" And when they
discovered the eggs... why didn't they say "opps...HER"
instead of decide it's a hermaphroditic "him?"


Gads... what a horrid piece of film.


Mike Silverman

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In article <6l7baf$d4e$1...@supernews.com>, "Shawn"
<bali...@shawn.hicks.kom> wrote:

> If you destroy a subway tunnel and electric cables are
> spitting sparks, what is the likelyhood that a Pepsi
> machine, sitting on top of a huge heap of destroyed
> cement, will still be lit?

If PepsiCo is paying you money for product placement in your expensive
film, the odds are very likely.

--
Mike Silverman -- cubsfan at turnleft.com -- Lawrence, KS
http://www.turnleft.com/personal

Jeffrey William McKeough

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Jun 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/5/98
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In article <6l7baf$d4e$1...@supernews.com>,
Shawn <bali...@shawn.hicks.kom> wrote:
>
>"LGB" stands for "Lazer Guided Bomb."

And "lazer", I take it, stands for "light amplification by ztimulated
emission of radiation"?

--
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"No, not Florida! I wanna go to Scranton!" -Edith Bunker

Kenneth Ashton Callicott

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In article <6l86ia$c...@fasolt.mtcc.com>,

Jeffrey William McKeough <san...@shore.net> wrote:
>In article <6l7baf$d4e$1...@supernews.com>,
>Shawn <bali...@shawn.hicks.kom> wrote:
>>
>>"LGB" stands for "Lazer Guided Bomb."
>
>And "lazer", I take it, stands for "light amplification by ztimulated
>emission of radiation"?

Tsk. Kids today. No respect for tradition. LAZER stands for

Look! Arnold Zwicky Eats Radicchio!
^ ^ ^ ^ ^

Jess, could we put this in the FAQ?

Ken.

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Arnold Zwicky

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in article <6l8ad7$p...@saga21.Stanford.EDU>, k. ashton callicott
<kac...@leland.Stanford.EDU> explains the acronym:

>Tsk. Kids today. No respect for tradition. LAZER stands for

> Look! Arnold Zwicky Eats Radicchio!

he does indeed. hey, radicchio and arugula are the most important
items in the Leafy fag food group. you need to eat them at least
four times a week to maintain your status as a practicing homosexual.

w every day for lunch while the arugula's in season m in oh

Steve Jones

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Jeffrey William McKeough wrote in message
<6l86ia$c...@fasolt.mtcc.com>...

>In article <6l7baf$d4e$1...@supernews.com>,
>Shawn <bali...@shawn.hicks.kom> wrote:
>>
>>"LGB" stands for "Lazer Guided Bomb."
>
>And "lazer", I take it, stands for "light amplification by
ztimulated
>emission of radiation"?


Iz thiz zome zort of Zima referenze?

- Zteve

Jack Hamilton

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Arnold Zwicky wrote:

> > Look! Arnold Zwicky Eats Radicchio!
>
>he does indeed. hey, radicchio and arugula are the most important
>items in the Leafy fag food group. you need to eat them at least
>four times a week to maintain your status as a practicing homosexual.


I guess I can just tear up my Queer Card, then.

I ran across it a few weeks ago while looking for something else. I
suppose I should keep it for its historic value, even if I don't use it
much anymore. It's pretty old, but this is the old form with no
expiration date.

I think I've lost or thrown away my old California Homosexual ID, issued
around the time of the Briggs Initiative. It listed my name, address,
pre-assigned internment camp, and category (top/bottom, pushy/non-pushy,
show tunes/disco, etc. - lets them know who to put in the same cell).
If Dan Lungren wins the race for governor, I suppose I'll be issued a
new one.

>w every day for lunch while the arugula's in season m in oh

Get it while you can. You'll get nothing but meat and potatoes in the
gulag (supposed to make men of us, you know).

David Morck

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In article <6l8q4c$i...@julius.ling.ohio-state.edu>,

Arnold Zwicky <zwi...@julius.ling.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
>in article <6l8ad7$p...@saga21.Stanford.EDU>, k. ashton callicott
><kac...@leland.Stanford.EDU> explains the acronym:
>
> >Tsk. Kids today. No respect for tradition. LAZER stands for
>
> > Look! Arnold Zwicky Eats Radicchio!
>
>he does indeed. hey, radicchio and arugula are the most important
>items in the Leafy fag food group. you need to eat them at least
>four times a week to maintain your status as a practicing homosexual.

Sigh. I'll never make it. I don't know why I bother.

Oh, well. I can't afford the homosexual lifestyle anyway.

dave, going back to iceberg lettuce
>
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Robert S. Coren

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In article <6l8q4c$i...@julius.ling.ohio-state.edu>,
Arnold Zwicky <zwi...@julius.ling.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
>in article <6l8ad7$p...@saga21.Stanford.EDU>, k. ashton callicott
><kac...@leland.Stanford.EDU> explains the acronym:
>
> >Tsk. Kids today. No respect for tradition. LAZER stands for
>
> > Look! Arnold Zwicky Eats Radicchio!
>
>he does indeed. hey, radicchio and arugula are the most important
>items in the Leafy fag food group. you need to eat them at least
>four times a week to maintain your status as a practicing homosexual.

My already-endangered queer card is sure to be lifted. The plain fact
of the matter is that I don't *like* radicchio.
--
-------Robert Coren (co...@spdcc.com)-------------------------
"Never try to outstubborn a cat." -- R. A. Heinlein

Robert S. Coren

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In article <6l8ok5$g3s$1...@ambach.macc.wisc.edu>,
Jess Anderson <ande...@facstaff.wisc.edu> wrote:
>
>Kenneth Ashton Callicott:

>
>>Jess, could we put this in the FAQ?
>
>Probably not, but I am sorely tempted by
>
> "Get fucked, dungfiesta!"

I think Mike used *five* blanks, and I assumed he was implying the
Insult That We Do Not Use.
--
-------Robert Coren (co...@spdcc.com)-------------------------
"Noise proves nothing. Often a hen who has merely laid an egg
cackles as if she had laid an asteroid." -- Mark Twain

Sim Aberson

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In article <6l8q4c$i...@julius.ling.ohio-state.edu>,
Arnold Zwicky <zwi...@julius.ling.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
>he does indeed. hey, radicchio and arugula are the most important
>items in the Leafy fag food group. you need to eat them at least
>four times a week to maintain your status as a practicing homosexual.

You *obviously* haven't discovered mesclun.

--
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thoughts of a longer life or an afterlife are not necessary."
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Clayton Colwell

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Robert S. Coren (co...@ursolaris.spdcc.com) wrote:
: In article <6l8ok5$g3s$1...@ambach.macc.wisc.edu>,

: Jess Anderson <ande...@facstaff.wisc.edu> wrote:
: >
: >Kenneth Ashton Callicott:
: >
: >>Jess, could we put this in the FAQ?
: >
: >Probably not, but I am sorely tempted by
: >
: > "Get fucked, dungfiesta!"

: I think Mike used *five* blanks, and I assumed he was implying the
: Insult That We Do Not Use.

I agree. Jess' translation is off the mark -- why would Mike
have wanted that dude to enjoy himself?

Ken Rudolph

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Robert S. Coren wrote:

> My already-endangered queer card is sure to be lifted. The plain fact
> of the matter is that I don't *like* radicchio.

Cooked radicchio is a whole different ball game, sort of like tangy,
red cabbage. The bitterness of it as a salad green disappears.
Arne made a recipe using it as a vegetable and it was a revelation.
However, my queer card is in no danger, since I adore radicchio and
arugula in salads.

--Ken Rudolph

Ken Rudolph

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Robert S. Coren wrote:
>
> In article <6l8ok5$g3s$1...@ambach.macc.wisc.edu>,
> Jess Anderson <ande...@facstaff.wisc.edu> wrote:

> > "Get fucked, dungfiesta!"
>
> I think Mike used *five* blanks, and I assumed he was implying the
> Insult That We Do Not Use.

Get r*p*d. Who says we don't use it?

--Ken Rudolph

Arnold Zwicky

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in article <6l9eo0$4...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>, sim aberson
<cz...@freenet5.carleton.ca> addresses the Leafy fag food group:

>In article <6l8q4c$i...@julius.ling.ohio-state.edu>,
>Arnold Zwicky <zwi...@julius.ling.ohio-state.edu> wrote:

>>he does indeed. hey, radicchio and arugula are the most important
>>items in the Leafy fag food group. you need to eat them at least
>>four times a week to maintain your status as a practicing homosexual.

>You *obviously* haven't discovered mesclun.

i never said that mesclun wasn't an important item in the food group.
i merely mentioned the two most important items.

b a in cols, who imagines that there are factors that would
compensate for a radicchio-arugula deficiency


Robert S. Coren

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In article <6la0n9$1...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>,

Ken Rudolph <ke...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Robert S. Coren wrote:
>
>> My already-endangered queer card is sure to be lifted. The plain fact
>> of the matter is that I don't *like* radicchio.
>
>Cooked radicchio is a whole different ball game, sort of like tangy,
>red cabbage. The bitterness of it as a salad green disappears.

That's useful to know. (Of course, it's a little odd to call radicchio
a salad "green", but I suppose if you called it a "salad crimson" most
people would be puzzled.)
--
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Mike Reaser

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zwi...@julius.ling.ohio-state.edu (Arnold Zwicky) wrote:
>he does indeed. hey, radicchio and arugula are the most important
>items in the Leafy fag food group. you need to eat them at least
>four times a week to maintain your status as a practicing homosexual.
>
>w every day for lunch while the arugula's in season m in oh

I caught an episode of "Chef Du Jour" on the TV Food Network a few
months ago whose "Chef Du Jour" was well-known lesbian comic Lea
Delaria.

She stated that arugula was nothing more than "gay spinach".

If it counts any, my favorite pre-bagged "Fresh Express" salad
variety just happens to be the Romaine & Radicchio "Italian" mix.


-- Mike Reaser, Atl., GA B2f+tw+cdvg+kvs++l+ aka HickBear on IRC
ICQ 3617758 mhr (at) photobooks.com or spdcc.com or mindspring.com

Always remember to pillage *before* you burn!

Arne Adolfsen

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In article <3579cf80...@news.mindspring.com>,

Mike Reaser <m...@delete-to-reply.mindspring.com> wrote:
>I caught an episode of "Chef Du Jour" on the TV Food Network a few
>months ago whose "Chef Du Jour" was well-known lesbian comic Lea
>Delaria.
>
>She stated that arugula was nothing more than "gay spinach".

Which only goes to show that she's a stupid dumb bitch who
doesn't have a clue when it comes to food.

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do it to me once in a while." -- Sylvia Syms

Ellen Evans

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Jun 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/7/98
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In article <6ldpij$5...@fasolt.mtcc.com>, Arne Adolfsen <ar...@mtcc.com> wrote:
[]

>Which only goes to show that she's a stupid dumb bitch who
>doesn't have a clue when it comes to food.

That flight is coming, Arne.

Just hold on.

(Ayana and I had dinner at Vinga last Saturday night. Yum. Yum, yum, yum.)
--
Ellen Evans 17 Across: The "her" of "Leave Her to Heaven"
je...@netcom.com New York Times, 7/14/96

Arne Adolfsen

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In article <jeevEu6...@netcom.com>,
Ellen Evans <je...@netcom.com> wrote:

>In article <6ldpij$5...@fasolt.mtcc.com>,
>Arne Adolfsen <ar...@mtcc.com> wrote [re: Bombay Cafe, the most celebrated
Indian restaurant in Southern California]:

>>Which only goes to show that she's a stupid dumb bitch who
>>doesn't have a clue when it comes to food.

>That flight is coming, Arne.
>
>Just hold on.

Flight and holding on. OK, not that I understand.

Rob and I had a totally fabulous lunch this afternoon at Bombay Cafe.
And we had the most fabuloso lunch ever last Saturday at Madhu's
Dasaprakash. So what's the deal. You can get more delish tandoori halibut
in Oakland than I could this afternoon?

>(Ayana and I had dinner at Vinga last Saturday night. Yum. Yum, yum, yum.)

I would kill -- seriously -- to eat at Vinga tomorrow. If I lived in the
Bay Area I'd eat there at least twice a week.

Arne, about to fly to the -- gasp!!! -- Seattle area

Leith Chu

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On 5 Jun 1998, Sim Aberson wrote:


> Arnold Zwicky <zwi...@julius.ling.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
> >he does indeed. hey, radicchio and arugula are the most important
> >items in the Leafy fag food group. you need to eat them at least
> >four times a week to maintain your status as a practicing homosexual.

> You *obviously* haven't discovered mesclun.

Mesclun being a mix of different leafy things, there is a special
dispensation for mesclun consumers. One serving of mesclun = 4 servings
or raddichio or arugula, so you can get it over with and get back to
consuming non-leafy things.

Leith, Leithy fag

Braden Mechley

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On 7 Jun 1998, Arne Adolfsen wrote:
> Arne, about to fly to the -- gasp!!! -- Seattle area

Whatever for?????????????????

** Braden Mechley ** ele...@u.washington.edu ** Department of Classics **


Mike McManus

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Leith Chu wrote:

At the last Rochester motss.dinner we ate at a restaurant that referred to
mesclun as "mescaline" salad on the menu. No one ordered it, so we'll have
to guess at what was really in there... ;-)

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Ned Deily

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Braden Mechley:

>>Arne, about to fly to the -- gasp!!! -- Seattle area
>Whatever for?????????????????

To visit with Speight, silly! (http://www.seattleopera.org)

P.S. Did you know Seattle has the largest per-capita audience for opera in America?
Growth opportunity for Starbucks.

--He Was E.D.
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Cornelia Wyngaarden

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Ned Deily (n...@visi.com) wrote:
: Braden Mechley:

: >>Arne, about to fly to the -- gasp!!! -- Seattle area
: >Whatever for?????????????????

: To visit with Speight, silly! (http://www.seattleopera.org)

: P.S. Did you know Seattle has the largest per-capita audience for opera in America?
: Growth opportunity for Starbucks.

Saw a charming production of "Scipione" Sunday night with David Lee,
Carl Strygg and Richard Theiss. David Lee is still doing his B.Mus. at
the Vancouver Academy of Music but I think we have found a winner.

These three voices have given me a whole new appreciation for counter/
tenors. Carl Strygg has a charming stage manner, elegant and slightly
evil, perfect for the 18th century.

corry

Eric Siegel

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On 5 Jun 1998, Arnold Zwicky wrote:
> in article <6l8ad7$p...@saga21.Stanford.EDU>, k. ashton callicott
> <kac...@leland.Stanford.EDU> explains the acronym:
>
> >Tsk. Kids today. No respect for tradition. LAZER stands for
>
> > Look! Arnold Zwicky Eats Radicchio!
>
> he does indeed. hey, radicchio and arugula are the most important
> items in the Leafy fag food group. you need to eat them at least
> four times a week to maintain your status as a practicing homosexual.

The first time I went to a baseball game at Candlestick Park, I was
astounded and amused by the mobile drink guy hawking iced cappucino
("Hey Iced Cap!" was the call). I pondered, "What next? A person
selling exotic green salads? 'Hey arugula! Hey radicchio! Would you
like some fresh ground pepper on that?' Would the pepper grinder be
passed down the row, as sodas, beer, hot dogs, and so on are done?"

Eric Siegel ejsi...@ucdavis.edu |
Dept. of Political Science |
Univ. of California, Davis | I may be easy, but I'm not cheap.
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Eric Siegel

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On Fri, 5 Jun 1998, Ken Rudolph wrote:

> Robert S. Coren wrote:
> >
> > In article <6l8ok5$g3s$1...@ambach.macc.wisc.edu>,
> > Jess Anderson <ande...@facstaff.wisc.edu> wrote:
>
> > > "Get fucked, dungfiesta!"
> >
> > I think Mike used *five* blanks, and I assumed he was implying the
> > Insult That We Do Not Use.
>
> Get r*p*d. Who says we don't use it?

J*s*s l*v*s y**. Lot of things that Are Not Done are done all
the time, which is precisely why they Are Not Done.

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