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So come to Athens and ENJOY CHEAP AND GREAT SEX !!, The age of consent: 14

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In the USA, sex with a 14 years old is a rape and felony, send the
offender to prison at least for life. But Greece is so fucken
"civilized", sex with a 14 years old is perfectly normal.


http://www.worldsexguide.org/greece.html

Greece

Prostitution Status: Prostitution is legal. The greek government
recently unveiled a plan to make prostitutes retire at 55 with the
state providing social and medical benefits. Registered prostitutes are
required to undergo health checks twice a week; many don't register and
have then no health care coverage.

The age of consent: 14.

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Greece

I lived in Athens, Greece for a total of four years in two tours
in
the military. Following the closure of Hellenikon AB, Athens in 1990,
I
travelled frequently to Chania, Crete on temporary duty assignments
through December of 1995.

Prostitution is legal in Greece, but the illegal business is where it
all happens. In Crete, rumor has it that the only girls who work
legally are the ones who have tested positive for AIDS or have other
incurable or treatment resistent diseases. Locals who don't know you
will recommend them though. As a point of interest, the Greek
government will not release any statistics on the number of Greek
people
with AIDS (or any other VD's for that matter). All the girls I've
known
always insisted on a condom.

Athens

First, avoid streetwalkers. All the ones I saw were males with
tits, some of them it was hard to believe they weren't female, but they
all (that I talked to) were upfront about it. The main hangout for
them
was on Singrou avenue on the Athens end near where it joins into
Syntagma Square (Platia Syntagma). There you will see them standing
along the road and opening their shirts to attract passing cars and
pedestrians. If you're into that sort of thing, the asking price was
usually considerably cheaper than women ($5 to 10 US). I was never
interested, so I can't say about the service.

The women were either in "nightclubs" or houses in back alleys and
just off the main streets. The houses are mostly marked with only a
light outside the door. I think they were all red at some time in the
distant past, but a lot of them are faded to white now. There are
probably a couple hundred of these places in the Syntagma Square and
Amonia Square area. Once you've seen one, it's pretty easy to pick
them
out. The normal price in 1989/90 was 10,000 to 15,000 Drachmae ($40 to
60 US) for foreigners. As you walk in there is usually an old woman
and
sometimes a man (usually with a definite feminine demeanor) who will
ask
if you want to look at the girls (usually there is only one and waiting
lines of 2 or 3 men are common for the attractive ones. Locals usually
only pay half the price they insist on for a foreigner and they will
give special deals to the Greek military if there are a lot of them in
town at the time. I would usually just walk in and take a look, but
not
go for the service, because of the complete lack of any pleasant
atmosphere or friendliness. A guy might as well masturbate as go to
these places. The more willing you are to pay in some places, the
faster the price will go up, but I guess that's standard about
anywhere.
I never heard of anyone having their wallet stolen or being mugged in
these places though.

In the nightclubs it's not all of the "hostesses" will sleep with
a
customer, or the amount of money you would have to spend to get them
could be prohibitive. The best way to know is to ask one of the
"managers" (read here bouncers). They are usually very helpful in
pointing out which of the girls will go with a customer. Some of the
clubs have booths and/or private "party" rooms where you can take the
girls and do whatever you like (provided you have the money). All
nightclubs are ripoff joints and the girls get a commission on the
drinks. If you have a few hundred dollars to waste, you can sit and
talk to the girls until well past normal closing time and then take
them
back to your hotel, or go to hers, and then expect to pay her another
$100 or possibly more. $100 was pretty much the standard though. The
more popular way of doing things, was to meet the girls in the club and
buy them a few drinks and talk to them for a bit and watch the show (if
they have one), then ask to meet her for coffee the next day. Then you
usually meet her at her hotel and either arrange for a room of your own
that she can meet you in, or go to her room. Again, expect to pay
about
$100 US. If you're too cheap the night you meet them, they most likely
won't agree to go for a "coffee". In the bars the girls will tell you
anything that will keep the drinks coming, so ask one of the managers
before wasting too much money. Also, the women in these places can be
very protective of "their customers" and won't let the other women
near.
Be wary of "tag teams" though, some of the girls will double team you
on
the drinks. Most teams like that are only there to make money off the
drinks. I did find exceptions to this on two occasions and had an
exceptional time going for "coffee" with two Romanian girls, and
another
time when I was invited to the dancing troup's (7 Dominican Republic
girls) apartment. That's another story, and one you probably wouldn't
believe, but I have the pictures and some fantastic memories of that
weekend.

The women that work in the nightclubs can be from anywhere. Most
of them are on contracts from "modelling agencies" in poor countries.
Predominant were the former Soviet Union, Thailand, Philipines, and the
Dominican Republic. There are a lot of Greek girls too though. They
usually travel a lot, especially the ones on contract. Most of these
places cater to the very well off that don't mind spending. A lot of
Arabs, and well to do businessmen from all over. The contract girls
will also go to many of the Arab countries and some of their customers
will follow them back to Greece. Many of the contract girls are
looking
for husbands too, so if you're that type of guy, it's fairly easy to
take advantage of them with promises, but I did just fine by being
honest but letting them know I was single.

A couple of places I remember: Maxime's was a large nightclub in
Syntagma Square, usually a very good striptease show with beautiful
women, but VERY expensive. There was a Korean nightclub on Syngrou
avenue near where the shemales were, and very close to the Olympic
Airways offices. All women inside the bar, and they treated me very
well. It was also one of the least expensive of the nightclubs and
they
had a karaoke machine, and some of the girls were excellent singers. I
don't know if the girls were actually pro's or not, since none of the
ones I took home ever asked me for any money. I wasn't the only
customer they left with though.

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Subject: Athens
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 13:36:10 UTC

I haven't seen any info. on Athens, but there are english-speaking
escorts available there. Pick up a copy of the 'Athens News', an
english-language daily, and check out the classifieds. There are
usually
ten to twelve ads from brothels and independents. I recommend the
'young
English girl', whose name changes from time to time. She's an absolute
knockout, a small and slim brunette with a beautiful body and face.
She's
also very nice, if not terribly vocal. An hour is 35,000 drachmas (or
was
in Spring '94).

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:13:57 +0200
Subject: prostitution in Greece

Dear Atta

Some information about pro. in Greece
Age of consecion 14

1.Street Girls

They are mainly tranvestites or transexuals price 7000 GRD for
intercource in their appartement nearby or 5000 GRD for sex in the
car.

Usually they hang around in Syngrou Ave.

Real women can be found outside cheap hotels in Athinas str. or Aiolou
str. short term intercource including blow job from GRD 5000 excluding
the room.

Brothels

Packed with Greek and East European girls they will charge 3500 to
4500 GRD for a short term intercource payed in advance, full service
including blow job plus sex. If you walk in Filis str. in the
downtown you will find a lot of brothels with the light on at their
frond door to descriminate them.

1 US$ is 290 GRD approx.


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Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 16:31:47 -0700
Subject: Prostitution in Athens

I live in Greece the last 5 years and I think that the best place to
go for a good hooker is in Athinas str.

It is near Omonoia square and it has lot of girls which change almost
every three months. The majority of the girls are black, also there
are some greek girls, which seat inside old hotels.

When you pass with your car you can see them seating inside, so you
can choose easily the girl that suits your needs. The price is 5.000
drachmas (almost 20$). The black girls are the most sexy and the most
hot, the other girls will do the "job" and then leave you unsatisfied
thinking why you have spent your money. As it concerns the girls in
athinas, if you give them 5.000 drachmas more, they will "do it" with
you again, and they will let you play more with them (at least the
girls that I have been to).

Another good place for finding a lot of whorehouses is at Zinonos
str. That is also near omonoia. There you will find many whorehouses
with many foreign girls especially russian and from Ukraine (it is
impossible to find greek girls in there). The price is 3000 drachmas
(10$), and the whole thing is been done in a quarter or something. So
it depends on whether you want to have something more, or just get a
"quicky".

And the last place which you will find for sure Greek girls is Fylis
str. If you take a taxi he will certainly know where it is.

The girls here treat you the same as in Zinonos str. and they are in
whorehouses also. The price is the same also and you must not expect
too much. The only thing that you will get is oral and straight sex
for about 15 minutes.

Anyway the best solution is the black girls in solonos and sometimes
some other girls in the same area.

Be carefull not to go to the hotel in the second turn to the right in
Athinas str. they are all man although they seem like very hot
ladies.

Hope you enjoy your stay in Greece like I'm doing.

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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:35:02 -0500
Subject: Athens, Greece - Sex Paradise

$1 US = 330 Drachmas (March 1998)

I would like to offer you great sex news about Athens, Greece. The
prices have fallen very low and with the recent devaluation of the
currency prostitution in Athens has become VERY VERY CHEAP with an
enormous variety of girls to choose from.

The best way to find girls is to buy the newspaper. You can find
almost 200 ads every day for all kinds of places, from escort girls to
high class brothels ! The girls range from Greeks, East-Europe Russia
to even Japanese. There are literally thousands of all different kinds
and nationalities in Athens right now.

Now the best part : PRICE . Escort girls (you can order them
everywhere you like) now cost 15000 Drx / Hour which is $45. Even
better you can go to a nice place where the girls are inplace and fuck
them for only 10000/Drx / Hour = $30 ! or 2 girls for $45 /
hour. These are the starting prices so you can always get ask for
better prices or more time !!!

Athens is flooded with incredible girls from Eastern Europe and
mostly Russia so you can fuck some incredible looking girls for a very
low price !

If you like Strip-Shows (where almost everything is permitted) you
have many places to go (Million Dollar Club (center), Tessera (Pireos
Avenue) but the best kept secret is Star Club (1 km from the Olympic
Stadium) where you can find some fantastic looking girls from all over
the world and lick them while fingering them for 3000 Drx ($9) for 10
min. Drinks cost only $6, no entrance fee and the music is great !

So come to Athens and ENJOY CHEAP AND GREAT SEX !!

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Subject: Prostitution in Athens, GREECE
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:41 +-200

Hello everybody. I am a 26 year old Greek male living in Athens and I
would like to inform you about the prostitution in Greece today (March
1998). First, I have to say that until 1992, visiting a prostitute in
Greece was a very dissapointing thing to do. All prostitutes were
Greek women, over 40 years of age, ugly , and charged an expensive fee
for a boring service. Young Greek girls (who have amazing bodies, I
must say) were (and still are) impossible to find working as
prostitutes. But, after 1992 a wonderful thing happened: The "market"
was flooded with young eastern european girls; always pretty and never
over 25 years of age. Those girls are not available at the legal
brothels at the red light disticts, since they enter Greece as
tourists and work without permission (and because of this, their
health status is unknown). Legal brothels are still full with ugly old
women, and it is better to masturbate than have sex with them! Eastern
european girls work in luxury "massage parlours". These "massage
parlours" offer sex illegaly. The police checks those places from time
to time, but the law is enforced rarely (only if underage girls are
found working as prostitutes). Foreign visitors in Greece will find it
difficult to locate those places since they are only advertising in
Greek newspapers. So, here is my advice for the foreign visitors:
AVOID the bars that are luring tourists with "show girls" etc. They
will send a young girl to sit at your table and then will charge you
an incredible amount of money (according to how rich you look) for
drinks you never ordered. You will HAVE to pay but you will not have
any sex with the girl!! Your best bet still is the "Athens News"
newspaper (in English) that has ads of escort girls that speak
English. Those are usually very good looking girls, but since their
customers are mostly foreign bussinessmen be prepared to pay an
expensive fee. That is all for now; please wear a condom.

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Prostitution in Greece is Legal & Illegal


Havent got that desperate yet and hope I never do, but hear its
inexpensive, about 60 EU a trick.

Female prostitution is legal with periodic medical checks administered
by state appointed doctors. Brothels exist in Athens and other cities
but are rarely alluded to. Same with escort services. Certain
newspapers advertise openly; both in, and out calls. Male prostitution
is illegal. Why pay for something you can get for free?

Harry's Note to Men: Greece is crawling with attractive women from all
over the world, in summer especially. Of course there are never enough
oriental women to satisfy me.

The Greek male is the main customer of ladies of the night, many of
whom are employed against their will. They are called trafficked women
and are lured to Greece with promises of jobs as waitresses or what
have you and upon arrival, robbed of their passports, beaten and made
to work in brothels. Greece has the worst record in Europe for failing
to combat this issue. Bravo!

Also strip bars should be avoided as they are clip joints and will rip
you off for drink prices etc. Never give them your credit card!
Athens'Metaxourgio area is the so called red light district and nothing
like Amsterdam. Also the areas south of Omonia Sq. in Athens and south
of Platea Victorias in Athens as well.

Good News for sex workers: The Olympics, which the more I learn about
the more I see it for the scam it is, will bring thousands of potential
customers looking for hookers, whores, whoores, what have you. Business
will improve vastly as foreigners will likely pay more than the legally
set price for various services.

Probe Into Huge Prostitution Racket

Public Order Minister Michalis Chrysochoidis vowed yesterday to stamp
out corruption in the police force, following allegations that police
in central Greece were involved in a huge prostitution racket that may
have traded in 1,200 foreign women over the last 10 years.

"All of these rackets that shame the Greek police will be crushed,"
Chrysochoidis said yesterday. "We will get to the root of this."

According to the newspaper Eleftherotypia, which broke the story on
Monday, it took the police Internal Affairs department five months of
investigations to file two bulky reports which were presented to public
prosecutors "a few days ago." According to the newspaper, the racket -
which was known locally as the "meat machine" - comprised
"businessmen," police of varying ranks as well as an employee of a
prosecutor's office who allegedly tried to extort money from the
racket. According to testimony, the paper said, "the racket, which was
based in Trikala and Karditsa... had moved more than 1,200 women in the
last 10 years, with a turnover of more than 35 billion drachmas for all
the procurers across Greece."

Among the officers said to be involved were two who were in PASOK MP
Christos Mangoufis's personal detail. "I have asked for their
resignation and I have their resignations in my pocket," Mangoufis said
onMonday. "They said they wanted the truth to shine."

Investigators heard that police officers would visit night clubs in
which foreign women were working andwere provided with sexual services
for which they did not pay, in return for providing protection to the
club.

A few weeks ago a police department employee who reportedly gave
information on the racket injured himself in an attempted suicide.
After recovering from a self-inflicted gunshot wound he retracted his
earlier claims, Eleftherotypia said on Dec 7, 2000. An infamous day all
round.

But the one thing we don't need to live with is the forced
prostitution of women and the exploitation of children forced to beg at
traffic lights. Combating the sex rackets, however, is going to be
particularly difficult, seeing the huge demand for prostitution in
Greece. Grigoris Lazos, an academic and special adviser to the Public
Order Ministry committee on trafficking said last June that the
turnover from the exploitation of women and children forced into
prostitution in Greece totaled an astronomical 6 billion euros over the
last 10 years. (Consider the fact that the narcotics trade in Greece is
estimated to have an annual turnover of about 1 billion euros and you
get an idea of the size of the problem). Lazos was speaking at a news
conference heralding a public awareness campaign against sexual
exploitation conducted by the Stop Now team of the non-governmental
Center for Research and Action for Peace. In 1990, the number of
victims of sexual exploitation came to 2,100. It hit a record 21,700 in
1997. There has been a slight decline since, which Lazos attributed to
more intensive policing and economic problems leading to a shortage of
cash among customers. He said 19,500 were forced into prostitution in
2000, among whom were about 1,000 children aged 13, 14 and 15.
Lazos's research has shown that in the decade from 1992 to 2002, men
paid 200 million visits to prostitutes. That would translate into
55,000 visits per day. This means that apart from the familiar problems
of bringing policy into effect - sloppiness, lack of urgency, lack of
professionalism and accountability among those entrusted with doing
this - difficulties are presented by the fact that prostitution is so
widespread and tolerated to such an extent. When a large number of men
in a small town, for example, patronise the dives in which women are on
offer, society begins to tolerate the poison, thinking that it is
immune to it. This creates a whirlpool of moral equivocation. The money
involved is so much that police officers can be tempted to look the
other way. Even if they are not on the take, they may be loath to stir
up reaction by cracking down on something tolerated by everyone else in
the same small society. And it goes on and on.

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Memorandum of Concern

Trafficking of Migrant Women for Forced Prostitution into Greece


Introduction

The trafficking of women for forced prostitution into Greece is a
serious problem and a grave human rights abuse. After many years of
failing to address this abuse, a joint ministerial decision by the
ministers of public order and interior was signed in May 2001 providing
for a "work management group on trafficking" to develop, coordinate and
implement anti-trafficking policy in Greece. (1)

Human Rights Watch welcomes this initiative in light of the growing
scale of trafficking in Greece, which has been acknowledged by the
Greek government and many other sources. However, Human Rights Watch
believes that the Greek government should take urgent action on a
number of fronts to combat trafficking and to protect the human rights
of trafficked women. While the work management group is mandated to
make its recommendations within one year, the urgency of Greece's
trafficking problems calls for immediate measures to ensure that no
trafficking victim will be required to wait another year before she has
access to justice for the serious abuses she has suffered.

The purpose of this memorandum to the government is to emphasize the
need for both immediate and long-term, effective responses to the
trafficking of women into Greece for forced prostitution. This
memorandum focuses on the specific characteristics of the trafficking
problem in Greece, the abuses that trafficking victims suffer, and the
government's to-date inadequate response to trafficking as a human
rights violation. The inclusion of a comprehensive set of
recommendations on effective measures to combat trafficking and to
protect the human rights of trafficking victims signals both the
immediate measures that should be taken by the government and the more
long-term solutions that might fall within the mandate of the incipient
working group. (2)

Human Rights Watch hopes that this memorandum will contribute to the
fight against trafficking in Greece and reaffirm that the human rights
of trafficking victims must be protected.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Footnotes:

1. Letter from Police Brigadier General and Director of the
International Police Cooperation Division Nikolaos Tassiopoulos,
Ministry of Public Order, Athens, to Human Rights Watch, May 29, 2001.
The working group will consist of police officials; representatives
from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the General Secretariat for
Equality and the International Organization for Migration; the national
representative from the European Observatory on Trafficking; and a
sociologist. It is tasked with the implementation of a national action
plan aimed at the prevention and suppression of trafficking and the
protection of victims' rights. Within one year from the establishment
of the group, it is required to report on the trafficking situation in
Greece; introduce legislation on trafficking; develop a model for a
special office on trafficking within the Greek police; create a
trafficking archive; and develop a plan for the voluntary repatriation
of trafficking victims.

2. In Appendix I, see also Human Rights Watch's "Recommendations
Regarding the Proposal for a Council Framework Decision on Combating
Trafficking in Human Beings," (March 2001). These recommendations
address the pending "European Commission proposal for a European
Council decision on combating trafficking." See Proposal for a Council
Framework Decision on Combating Trafficking in Human Beings, COM (2000)
854 [2001/0024 (CNS)], December 21, 2000.

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Mark Rivers Bitten on the Bum by Shark!

Turk survived a shark attack - after it bit his bottom.

Mark Rivers, a Turkish immigrant and notorious spammer of usenet, was
surfing in Eastern Cap Province, South Africa when he was attacked.

He punched the shark but needed 75 stitches, reports The Sun.

Rivers said: "I don't know if it went because I was hitting out or because
it didn't like the taste."

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Mark Rivers Hatches 13 Chicks!

Mark Rivers, a Turkish immigrant and notorious spammer of usenet, used the
warmth of his own body to hatch a clutch of 13 chicks in China.

Mark Rivers bought 20 eggs with his savings and planned to use the family's
hen to hatch them. But he had to stand in after the hen was attacked by a
neighbour's dog and died.

Rivers put the eggs in a box and put it between his legs for warmth each
day and laid under a pile of quilts to keep it warm.

"The most difficult time was when I was asleep, I had to sleep under really
thick quilts, and dared not to turn over, for fear of crushing the eggs,"
he said.

When he had to leave the house to go to school, he wrapped the box of eggs
in quilts to try and keep them warm. After 20 days, Rivers was awakened by
some faint sounds - one of the chicks had hatched. Over the next few days,
another 12 hatched.

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Crackdown on registered prostitution will feed illicit trade, critics
say
By Ellie Tzortzi - Reuters

With five months to go before the Olympics bring millions of visitors
to Athens, the city is preparing to showcase the best it has to offer
in wine and song, while wondering what to do about the women.

A row about regulating the country's sex trade has reached an impasse
as politicians, prostitutes, feminists and priests wait for next
Sunday's elections to throw up a new government, all the while at
each other's throats over how to deal with an industry that feeds
around 70,000 people across Greece.

While authorities, led by Athens's first female mayor, Dora
Bakoyannis, say they want to impose tighter restrictions on registered
prostitution early to avoid a Games boom, critics say a crackdown will
only feed the much larger illicit trade.

"Are we legal prostitutes the problem, when we represent 9 percent of
the business out there and the rest is illegal and uncontrollable?"
said Dimitra Kanelopoulou, president of the Movement of Greek
Prostitutes (KEGE).

"All over Athens there are signs for strip shows and live sex, and
our little white light over the door is an issue?" The rows center on
a 1999 law which made prostitution a legal profession for men and
single women, specifying permits and health checks for sex workers, as
well as tight rules on location including a 200-meter distance from
civic buildings such as churches or schools.

The law was not enforced until the middle of last year, when officials
revived it for a pre-Games cleanup, saying enforcement would cut the
600-odd brothels operating in the city to 230.

KEGE countered that all prostitutes in the known brothels had permits
and health certificates, and it was only the unworkable location
restrictions of the 1999 law that made their houses illegal.

"We pay taxes, 200 euros in social security every month, issue
receipts and get health checks and still the police come and drag us to
the station every other day," Kanelopoulou said.

"Some might soon not bother with permits, post an ad and do it on the
sly. They are pushing us to illegality."

Prostitutes strike

The Church of Greece was outraged at what it saw as a bid to license
more brothels, finding unlikely allies in Nordic governments and
feminist groups, which wrote to Greece protesting what they called
"Olympic Prostitution."

Denying the charges, the city tried to close down 15 brothels for
zoning violations. Prostitutes went on a three-day strike, draping
black flags over their windows and threatening to throw themselves off
balconies.

A deal was reached when the government pledged to relax the rules,
tabling an amendment to ease zoning restrictions, scrap a clause that
only single women could get permits, and allow more than one
"house" in one building with more than the previously allowed three
employees.

Fearing the city might issue permits for larger brothels in hotel-like
complexes to cope with demand during the Games, Greek feminists lobbied
and finally stopped the procedure in its tracks.

An estimated 10,000 sex workers plied their trade during the 2000
Olympics in Sydney, many imported from abroad.

"We want to see the 1999 law annulled. We are seeking legislation
that protects sex workers and sex work but does not define it as a
profession," said Kety Costavara, co-ordinator of the National
Observatory for Combating Violence against Women. "I mean, what's
next, suggesting it to kids in school as a possible job?" According
to lawyer George Fotiadis, implementing the law is problematic and this
leads not just to illegality but lawlessness.

"Many sex workers, especially from the former Soviet bloc, do this
job without even thinking of getting these permits," he said.

Underground trade

Curbside soliciting is illegal in Greece, but a late-night walk round
the capital's main Syngrou Avenue area shows the law to be widely
ignored.

Hundreds of advertisements in the press offering a good time in bars or
in-home visits from Eastern Europeans also hint at the mass of illegal
immigrants who work in the underground sex trade.

KEGE estimates that illegal prostitutes number more than 60,000 across
Greece, against 7,000 registered.

The group says it will continue demonstrating and pushing its case with
whichever government comes out of the election, and take the case as
far as European Union courts.

"We are one of the oldest professions. We are fighting for our right
to work and our prerogative to choose this work," Kanelopoulou said.
"As opposed to many of the foreign girls who are victims of
trafficking, for us legal Greek prostitutes, this is a choice." "I
personally have not regretted any of it. And when someone shouts at me,
'You big whore,' I don't hear it as an insult, I hear it as a
badge of honor for the ability to cope with the tough things in
life."

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Mark Rivers Sets Microwave and House on Fire!

CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) - Mark Rivers, a Turkish immigrant and notorious
spammer of usenet, was charged with arson on Friday after he allegedly
heated a can containing gasoline in a microwave oven following a domestic
dispute. He is accused of setting the fire at about 2 a.m. Friday after
arguing with his mother.

Rivers and an unidentified friend got out of the house without injury. The
friend ran back inside and attempted to put out the fire but was
overpowered by flames and escaped a second time without injury, James
said.

The two-story wood frame house was engulfed in flames when firefighters
arrived. A damage estimate was not immediately available.

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sex in ancient greece

by Chris Steidle, MD

Ancient Cures for Impotence

Not necessarily "Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Impotence",
but interesting nevertheless.

Better Than Hemlock

Quoted from a review of Simon Goldhill's Foucault's Virginity by James
Davidson in The London Review of Books, October 1995

An unusual feature of the topography of ancient Athens was the strange
half-statues, which the Athenians called Hermeses and we call herms: a
representation of the god of travel, trickery and luck, abbreviated to
a pillar, a head and a penis. They were to be seen all over the city,
on street-corners, at cross-roads, by doors and gates, and midway on
roads from the country into town, providing points of reference in a
city with few street-names and little interest in town-planning. On the
eve of ventures or on receipt of gains, Hermes attracted 'pleases' and
'thank-yous' in the form of cakes and flowers, his penis conveniently
erect for hanging gifts on. In 415, however, during preparations for a
great voyage of conquest into the western Mediterranean, the Athenians
woke up to discover their lucky herms vandalised: disfigured and
(perhaps) unmembered.

Panicked and outraged, they set up an inquisition to find the culprits.
Informers were forthcoming and a list of 'Hermokopidai' was drawn up,
the majority of whom did not hang around long enough to test the equity
of Athenian justice but abandoned their property to the public
auctioneers, who catalogued it carefully and inscribed it on stone for
the benefit of posterity. The expedition itself went ahead as planned.
It was a disaster.

What possessed the 'herm-bashers' that night remains obscure.
Traditional opinion divides between jinx and high-jinks, between an
oligarchic conspiracy to scupper the fortunes of the democracy and a
drunken prank at a spectacularly ill-judged moment in Athenian imperial
history. In 1985, however, Eva Keuls published a book which opened up a
new line of inquiry. The Hermokopidai were innocent, she suggested. The
real culprits were the women of Athens, striking a blow against
phallocracy by hitting Athenian men where it hurt.

The penis was everywhere in the ancient world. Apart from the herms,
there were giant ceremonial dildoes carried in procession for Dionysus,
satyriassic satyrs on vases and in plays, priapic actors in comedy and
naked men in gymnasia or in stone. Priapus himself arrived rather
later, in the Hellenistic and Roman periods: a fertility god of
orchards and gardens, he sometimes doubled as a guardian, threatening
scrumpers with impalement on his elephantine organ. This array of
virilia bore many symbolic associations. Big ones seem most often to
have indicated obscenity and buffoonery, lust, luck and fertility;
others were used to mark senility (when pendulous), otherness (when
circumcised) and self-control. They were a symbol as much for women as
for men and figured in a number of women-only festivals in the form of
phallic costumes and phallic cakes.

Some care was taken to distinguish different kinds of penis in art, and
a strong contrast seems always to have been drawn between the gross
members of satyrs and comic actors in Dionysus' entourage and the very
modest manhood of heroic and civic ideal. Sometimes the phallus seems
even to have a life of its own. It appears as a bird, with eyes and
wings, or with four legs and a tail as a phallus-centaur. Disembodied
and reembodied in this way, it had little to do with what most Greek
men found between their legs.

Phallic symbolism in Greece seems, therefore, to have been particularly
rich and complex, but in recent years there has been a strong tendency
to reduce all these penises, big ones, small ones, wooden ones, leather
ones, the attached and the unattached, the flightless and the fully
fledged, to one function only: masculine power. According to David
Halperin, one of the most sophisticated members of this school of
thought, 'the symbolic language of democracy proclaimed on behalf of
each citizen. "I, too, have a phallus."

The herms are Hermes no longer, but a symbol of the patriarch, not
well-wishers on the way, but grim and threatening guardians of the
door, like Priapus, but without his sense of humour. The ideogram of an
oppressive, dystopian system, the ubiquitous penis is seen to represent
the ubiquity of male power: an attack on this sign, such as the
vandalism of 415, looks very much like a revolt of phallocracy's
oppressed.

When it was first published, Keuls's suggestion seemed to belong to the
fringes of ancient studies; recently reissued, her book now nestles
comfortably in the mainstream, a graphic indication of the direction
the current has taken over the past ten years. Her title, The Reign of
the Phallus, might stand as a summary of new thinking on ancient
gender. Blended with Beauvoir's Other, Freud and Foucaut, the phallus
has come to be seen as the key to a whole society, lying at the centre
of a nexus of sex and power. 'Sex was phallic action,' claims Halperin,
'it revolved around who had the phallus, was defined by what was done
with the phallus, and was polarised by the distribution of phallic
pleasure.' Sex was a chronic, traumatic, political event.

Far from bringing people together sex kept them apart, dividing those
penetrating from those penetrated, while at the same time erasing
distinctions on either side of the phallic equation. Penetration,
moreover, meant power. Those who had the phallus and used it were the
dominant citizen males. Those who had been born without one or who had
lost theirs somewhere along the way were the disenfranchised Other:
women, slaves, foreigners and men who enjoyed getting shafted. Sex made
everyone either active or passive, a plus or a minus; it was a zero-sum
game.

It has been claimed that phallicism was not merely characteristic of
sex in the ancient world (as it has been thought characteristic of sex
today) but actually constituted a sexuality. In fact, there was no such
thing as sexuality in antiquity, only 'a more generalised ethos of
penetration and domination'. Phallicism thus presented historians with
a real-life example to support Foucault's theory of radical
discontinuity in the history of desire. The 'problem' of Greek
homosexuality was a problem no more. So long as they were on the
positive end of the penetrating penis, the Greeks did not care about
the gender of the person on the other.

This view of ancient sexuality has been enormously influential over the
past decade, especially among non-classicists, who seem prepared to
accept uncritically claims about the ancient world that would, if made
about more proximate cultures, attract much closer scrutiny. The
theory's ready acceptance is perhaps one of the main grounds for
scepticism, since it convinces not by means of an avalanche of
indisputable ancient material, but by fitting in neatly with
contemporary concerns. Penetration is a peculiarly modern obsession,
and non-penetrative intercourse our peculiar holy grail. This makes the
ancient phallocracy look suspiciously like a genealogical exercise, an
archaeology of the truth of Western patriarchy in a time before it had
gone undercover.

Future historians will have little difficulty in demonstrating a
connection in the 20th century between sex, aggression and power. The
more adventurous among them might adduce the homosexual rape scene in
Howard Brenton's Romans in Britain, or the addition to military slang
of the verb 'to scud', glossed by one reporter during the Gulf War as
to make love unfeelingly, but these are only the more exotic reaches of
a quotidian discourse constituted in a whole range of expletives from
'up yours' to 'get screwed.'

Such language is conspicuous in ancient Greece by its absence, forcing
the historians of phallocracy to turn to images instead. But these
images are silent and it is by no means straightforward to make them
speak without ventriloquising. Anything which strays from the
missionary position, for instance, is looked at with suspicion as being
close to S&M: 'the rear-entry stance allows the painter to show women
being used impersonally, as mere sexual tools whose response and
emotional reaction is of no concern to their male lovers.' The
foundations of the theory of ancient phallocracy, as well as the
impressionable, fly-by-wire approach to sexual imagery, have their
origins not, surprisingly, in some post-Foucauldian constructionalist
treatise, but in a ten-page section on 'Dominant and Subordinate Roles'
in Kenneth Dover's normally sober work on Greek homosexuality.

Here, at the point where it was perhaps most needed, Dover abandons his
painstaking philology, turning instead to pornographic vase-paintings
elucidated with the help of anthropology and zoology. He notes that
Italians refer to a defeated football team as inculato and observes
that it is an insult in Norse sagas to describe someone as 'used like a
wife'. Most of his evidence, however, comes from analogies in the
animal kingdom, although the animals generally seem more sophisticated
than Homo sapiens about sexual symbolism: 'Karlen observes that humans,
unlike many animal species which have ritualised homosexual
"submission", can complete a genital act "in expressing a power
relationship". John Boorman's film Deliverance makes striking use of
this theme in depicting the maltreatment of urban "trespassers" by
rustic hunters.'

It is this modern view of penetration, universalised by human-zoo
logic, that makes the ancient phallocracy convincing. The idea that the
ithyphallic herm is an aggressive proprietorial marker is cogent not
because of any compelling ancient evidence, but because of an implicit
or explicit analogy with the territorial displays of apes (I have
myself seen this reaction,' says Dover). Even Foucault, who would not
normally allow a monkey within a hundred miles of his philosophy, is
quite happy to refer to Dover's bestiary as evidence for ancient
attitudes to penetration. His followers have tended to follow suit,
producing a curious blend of primatology and psychoanalysis, treating
the penis as a transcendental signifier and reading the meanings of
making love without reference to cultural conventions. A theory which
claims to challenge universalizing notions of sexuality depends on
universalizing interpretations of sex.

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A 135 kilo Russian housewife held an armed robber of Turkish descent
captive for more than an hour by sitting on him.

The 41-year-old mother flung herself at one of three men who broke into her
home in Ulyanovsk brandishing guns and demanding money.

The thief, identified as Turkish immigrant Mark Rivers, immediately fell
under her weight, unable to move, reports Pravda. The other two robbers
fled.

When her daughter returned home, she called the police. The 18-year-old
thief suffered swollen and bruised limbs.

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Mark Rivers Finally has Sex!

Police in Holland caught two burglars of Turkish origin having sex in the
house they had broken into.

Neighbours of the empty house in Beuningen alerted police after they heard
suspicious noises.

Officers went to investigate and found Mark Rivers having sex with Seanie
O'Kilfoyle, another Turkish immigrant.

They told police they broke into the house only because they were desperate
to make love.

Police said they would not be charged.

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GREECE (TIER 2 - WATCH LIST)
[Extracted from U.S. State Dept Trafficking in Persons Report, June
2005]

Greece is a destination country for women, men, and children trafficked
for the purposes of sexual exploitation and forced labor. Most victims
come from Eastern Europe and the Balkans, some transit to other EU
countries. Although the number of identified Roma and Albanian child
victims decreased, they continued to be trafficked for commercial
sexual exploitation and forced labor. Various sources noted a possible
new trend of African women trafficked for the purposes of sexual
exploitation.

The Government of Greece does not fully comply with the minimum
standards for the elimination of trafficking; however, it is making
significant efforts to do so. Greece is placed on Tier 2 Watch List for
a second consecutive year for its failure to show evidence of
increasing efforts to combat trafficking, particularly in the area of
victim protection and assistance. The government failed to complete an
agreement with Albania on child protection and its results on
increasing the number of convicted traffickers were inadequate during
the reporting period. The government, however, demonstrated commitment
to address trafficking by appointing a new coordinator, implementing a
new action plan, and allocating significant resources for victim
assistance. The government must develop an effective screening and
referral process to prevent the involuntary detention and deportation
of victims and consider the important role NGOs could play in this
process. As previously suggested, a large-scale targeted demand
reduction campaign would strengthen domestic anti-trafficking efforts.

Prosecution In 2004, the Greek Government showed limited progress in
the enforcement of its anti-trafficking laws. The government conducted
a number of anti-trafficking raids, charged 352 perpetrators, and
successfully dismantled several criminal rings operating in Greece.
During 2004, the government appointed two special anti-trafficking
prosecutors and reported 94 prosecutions under the 2002
anti-trafficking law. Conviction rates, however, remained
disproportionally low - the government reported a few convictions
during the year. Notably, the courts handed down significant sentences
in many of those cases and convicted the first traffickers under the
government's 2002 law. Some local police continued to participate in
and facilitate trafficking. In 2004, the government took some punitive
action against police complicity in trafficking.

Protection The government made some progress in protecting victims of
trafficking in 2004. The government took important preliminary steps to
improve protection by allowing foreign victims the opportunity to
obtain residence and work permits- at least 24 permits were issued in
2004. However, potential trafficking victims without legal status
continued to be inappropriately arrested and deported; many potential
victims possessing legal status were not screened or recognized as
having been trafficked. The government allowed only limited NGO access
to potential victims in detention facilities. Notably, in 2004, Greece
provided over three million Euros to NGOs to provide assistance to
trafficked victims, opened three new government shelters and
contributed to the operation of four NGO shelters. As of February 2005,
the new Athens shelter had not received any referrals, however victims
continued to be assisted in NGO shelters. Police were issued
instructions to reinforce techniques of identification and assistance,
but lack of a adequate referral mechanism continued to result in widely
inconsistent, ad hoc referrals. The government also failed to conclude
the long-awaited protocol with Albania on the return of child victims.
In 2004, the government identified 181 victims of trafficking; 46 of
the 181 victims received state and NGO assistance and protection. A
special prosecutor issued an order to suspend deportation for 25
victims. NGOs reported that a lack of victim witness protection
resulted in harm to some victims while trials were pending.

Prevention In 2004, the Greek Government launched a national victim's
hotline and in 2005 co-sponsored anti-trafficking trainings on
implementation of its trafficking law. In November 2004, the government
sponsored a conference that brought together law enforcement officers
from throughout Greece and Eastern Europe to share best practices. It
continued to fund anti-trafficking awareness campaigns via NGOs in
2004, some aspects of which targeted clients. As part of its
preparations for the 2004 Olympic games, the government readied for a
possible increased in trafficking through extensive police patrols,
training, and established a legal aid program. Further, the government
provided resources to NGOs to conduct street assessments, which led to
the identification and repatriation of six trafficked children.

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Memorandum of Concern
Trafficking of Migrant Women for Forced Prostitution into Greece

-------------------------------------------------------------

According to the U.N. Convention against Transnational Organized
Crime's protocol, trafficking in persons means:

[T]he recruitment, transportation, transfer, harbouring or receipt of
persons, by means of the threat or use of force or other forms of
coercion, of abduction, of fraud, of deception, of the abuse of power
or of a position of vulnerability or of the giving or receiving of
payments or benefits to achieve the consent of a person having control
over another person, for the purposes of exploitation. Exploitation
shall include, at a minimum, the exploitation of the prostitution of
others or other forms of sexual exploitation, forced labour or
services, slavery or practices similar to slavery, servitude or the
removal of organs.

United Nations Convention against Transnational Organized Crime, Annex
II: Protocol to Prevent, Suppress and Punish Trafficking in Persons,
Especially Women and Children, A/55/383, adopted by the General
Assembly on November 2, 2000, article 3.

--------------------------------------------------------------


Background

Research and Methodology

Despite widespread acknowledgment that trafficking of human beings for
the purpose of forced prostitution has escalated dramatically in recent
years, the government of Greece has failed to address this problem.
Greece has failed to take action to prevent trafficking, to protect the
victims of trafficking, and to prosecute the traffickers. Moreover,
efforts to identify and prosecute law enforcement and other officials
complicit in trafficking are inadequate.

Human Rights Watch's conclusions are based on research conducted in
Greece in November 2000 and on extensive follow-up research conducted
during the following months. We interviewed government officials,
police authorities, representatives from intergovernmental and
nongovernmental organizations, and prison authorities; and gathered
information on trafficking victims. In the aftermath of the research,
we also forwarded to the Greek government a detailed critique of
proposed immigration legislation that, in our view, failed to address
adequately concerns regarding the trafficking of migrant women for
forced prostitution into Greece. (3)


As a result of this research and advocacy, our specific concerns
regarding the trafficking of women into Greece for forced prostitution
include:

· the absence of comprehensive anti-trafficking legislation;

· few prosecutions for trafficking under existing criminal laws;

· the lack of witness protection programs for trafficking victims to
facilitate their participation in prosecutions;

· the absence of government-sponsored services for all trafficked
women, including shelter, medical care, psychological support, and
assistance with other basic needs;

· the on-going detention and deportation of trafficking victims;

· the complicity of police officers in the trafficking of women.

Trafficking as a Human Rights Abuse

Categorizing trafficking as "one of the worst forms of abuse that
migrant women suffer," the International Organization for Migration
(IOM) believes that hundreds of thousands of women are caught up in
global trafficking networks. (4)

The essential elements of the crime of trafficking are the recruitment
and/or transport of persons using deception, coercion or fraud for the
purpose of exploiting a person's labor. (5)


Trafficking of women into Western Europe for the purpose of forced
prostitution and other forms of forced labor has been on the rise since
the early 1990s. The European Commission estimates that 120,000 women
and children are trafficked into Western Europe each year. (6)

In recent years, anti-trafficking initiatives have moved from the
margins to the core of the legislative programs and action plans of
international and regional intergovernmental bodies, including the
United Nations (U.N.), European Union (E.U.), Council of Europe (COE),
Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), and many
international nongovernmental organizations. (7)

In December 2000, over 120 nations signed the United Nations Convention
against Transnational Organized Crime; eighty-six nations have also
signed the convention's Protocol to Prevent, Suppress and Punish
Trafficking in Persons, Especially Women and Children. (8)

Greece signed both the convention and the trafficking protocol, but has
not yet ratified either.

Trafficking must be addressed as a human rights violation. Trafficking
for forced prostitution and other forms of forced labor involves the
illegal and often highly profitable transport and sale of human beings
for the purpose of exploiting their labor. The networks that engagein
the trafficking of migrant women for forced prostitution arrange for
women's travel and job placement, and use deception, fraud, and
coercion to place them into highly abusive conditions of employment,
where they are forced to pay off outrageously high "debts" before they
can receive wages or gain their freedom. While in debt, women face a
range of abuses from not being paid for work completed and working
excessively long hours to constant surveillance and slavery-like
conditions. In more extreme cases, women are held in a situation of
forced labor or in debt bondage and are sold and re-sold from brothel
owner to brothel owner without any hope of ever escaping or paying off
their "debt." (9)Many trafficked women also suffer beatings, rape,
psychological coercion, and serious health problems from sexually
transmitted diseases. Failure to obey traffickers and employers can
lead to fines, physical violence, and even death. Escape from these
conditions is difficult and dangerous, and may lead to retaliation
against a woman or her family members by operatives in the trafficking
network.

All governments have an obligation to combat trafficking and other
violations associated with this human rights abuse, including labor
rights violations, rape, assault, debt bondage, and deprivation of
liberty. Governments that acquiesce in or routinely fail to take action
against trafficking, effectively--through their inaction--are complicit
in it. With respect to trafficking specifically for forced
prostitution, governments both in countries of origin and in countries
into which women are trafficked, need to be alert to the problem and
take effective measures to halt and prevent it. In particular, among
other steps, they should invest in information campaigns that educate
migrant women about their labor rights and warn them about trafficking
abuses, and they should establish telephone hotlines with skilled staff
to assist victims of trafficking. Governments should take all possible
steps to identify, investigate, and punish rights abuses perpetrated by
traffickers and to compensate trafficking victims Moreover, both in
countries of origin and destination, governments should take measures
to halt police corruption and complicity in trafficking abuses by their
own agents.

Governments should also address the precarious legal and social
position of trafficked persons, with concrete measures to protect
victims' rights. Measures should be adopted to afford trafficked
persons the opportunity to cooperate effectively and safely with law
enforcement officials. Such measures include stays of deportation;
exempting trafficked persons from detention and prosecution for
offenses directly relating to their trafficking; giving them real
opportunities to seek justice and compensation for abuses they have
suffered; ensuring their access to shelter, medical care, and other
services; guaranteeing their personal safety and the safety of their
family members; facilitating their safe and humane repatriation; and
offering alternatives if such repatriation is not possible, including
third country resettlement. (10)

In response to the upsurge in the trafficking of human beings, however,
most West European governments have taken a narrow "crime control"
approach to this phenomenon. The emphasis has been placed on enhanced
border control; measures to combat organized criminal networks of
traffickers; and detection, apprehension, and deportation of trafficked
migrants. Ignoring the link between increasingly restrictive
immigration and asylum policies in Western Europe and the boom in
trafficking, many governments fail to address trafficking as a human
rights and refugee protection issue. Yet, some argue that
anti-immigration policies generated by West European governments are
themselves an important contributing factor in the rise in trafficking
in the region. (11)

According to the IOM, "another way to combat this deadly and abusive
traffic [of women for forced prostitution] would be for governments to
consider the creation of more legal opportunities so that women are not
compelled to resort to dubious job offers in order to find ways to
support their families." (12)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Footnotes:


3. See Human Rights Watch, "Comments on Greek Immigration Bill: HRW
Letter to Greek Members of Parliament," February 1, 2001, at
http://www.hrw.org/press/2001/02/Greece0202.htm (May 22, 2001).

4. IOM News Release, "IOM Calls for Tougher Sanctions against Those Who
Profit from Trafficking in Women," No. 850, March 8, 2001. According to
IOM, international migration is becoming "increasingly feminized," with
women making up almost 50 percent of the estimated 150 million
international migrants worldwide. Persons trafficked for forced
prostitution and other forms of forced labor comprise a significant
number of women migrants. See IOM, World Migration Report 2000,
November 2000.

5. The terms "trafficking" and "smuggling" are used interchangeably by
many governments and the media. They represent two distinct phenomena,
however. According to the U.N. Convention against Transnational
Organized Crime's protocol, trafficking in persons means:

[T]he recruitment, transportation, transfer, harbouring or receipt of
persons, by means of the threat or use of force or other forms of
coercion, of abduction, of fraud, of deception, of the abuse of power
or of a position of vulnerability or of the giving or receiving of
payments or benefits to achieve the consent of a person having control
over another person, for the purposes of exploitation. Exploitation
shall include, at a minimum, the exploitation of the prostitution of
others or other forms of sexual exploitation, forced labour or
services, slavery or practices similar to slavery, servitude or the
removal of organs.

United Nations Convention against Transnational Organized Crime, Annex
II: Protocol to Prevent, Suppress and Punish Trafficking in Persons,
Especially Women and Children, A/55/383, adopted by the General
Assembly on November 2, 2000, article 3.

Smuggling is defined as "the procurement, in order to obtain, directly
or indirectly, a financial or other material benefit, of the illegal
entry of a person into a State Party of which the person is not a
national or a permanent resident," Protocol against Smuggling of
Migrants by Land, Sea and Air, supplementing the United Nations
Convention against Transnational Organized Crime, A/55/383, adopted by
the U.N. General Assembly on November 2, 2000, Article 3. The smuggling
protocol has been signed by eighty-one countries.

6. European Commission, Trafficking in Women, The Misery Behind the
Fantasy: From Poverty to Sex Slavery:A Comprehensive European Strategy,
March 8, 2001, at
http://europa.eu.int/comm/justice_home/news/8mars_en.htm#a1 (May 22,
2001). The clandestine nature of trafficking makes it difficult to
estimate accurately the numbers of trafficked persons in any region.
Moreover, few countries keep statistics on cases of trafficked persons.


7. See, for example, United Nations Commission on Human Rights
(Fifty-Sixth Session), Report of the Secretary General on Activities of
United Nations Bodies and Other International Organizations Pertaining
to the Problem of Trafficking in Women and Girls, E/CN.4/2000/66,
January 20, 2000; Report of the Special Rapporteur on Violence Against
Women, its Causes and Consequences, Ms. Radhika Coomaraswamy, on
Trafficking in Women, Women's Migration and Violence Against Women,
E/CN.4/2000/68, February 29, 2000; Commission on Human Rights
Resolution, "Traffic in Women and Girls," E/CN.4/RES/2000/44, April 20,
2000. At the E.U. level, the most significant development is a European


Commission proposal for a European Council decision on combating
trafficking. See Proposal for a Council Framework Decision on Combating
Trafficking in Human Beings, COM (2000) 854 [2001/0024 (CNS)], December

21, 2000. See also, Human Rights Watch, "Recommendations Regarding the


Proposal for a Council Framework Decision on Combating Trafficking in

Human Beings," March 2001, Appendix I. The Council of Europe set out
anti-trafficking measures in a May 2000 recommendation to its forty-one
member states. See Council of Europe, Recommendation No. R (2000) 11 of
the Committee of Ministers to Member States on Action against
Trafficking in Human Beings for the Purpose of Sexual Exploitation, May
19, 2000, at http://cm.coe.int/ta/rec/2000/2000r11.htm as of May 22,
2001. As an immediate follow-up, the COE organized a seminar in Athens
in June 2000 to develop a regional anti-trafficking action plan for
South-East Europe. See also OSCE, Decision No.1: Enhancing the OSCE's
Efforts to Combat Trafficking in Human Beings, MC(8) Journal No. 2,
adopted by the Ministerial Council on November 28, 2000. See also OSCE,
Trafficking in Human Beings: Implications for the OSCE (OSCE Review
Conference, September 1999), Office for Democratic Institutions and
Human Rights Background Paper 1999/3.

8. United Nations Convention against Transnational Organized Crime,
A/55/383, adopted by the General Assembly on November 2, 2000 and Annex
II: Protocol to Prevent, Suppress and Punish Trafficking in Persons,
Especially Women and Children, A/55/383, adopted by the General
Assembly on November 2, 2000. The convention and protocols will come
into force when forty states ratify them. One state, Monaco, has
ratified the convention and protocols. The convention and protocols are
open for signature until December 12, 2002.

9. The International Labour Organization classifies trafficking of
women for forced prostitution as "forced labour." ILO, Stopping Forced
Labour: The Elimination of all Forms of Forced or Compulsory Labour,
June 2001, para. 29. Forced labour is defined as "all work or service
which is extracted from any person under the menace of any penalty and
for which the said person has not offered himself voluntarily." ILO,
Forced Labour Convention (No. 29), 1930, Article 2. Anti-Slavery
International, a London-based nongovernmental organization, classifies
trafficking of women for forced prostitution as a form of "modern day
slavery." According to ASI, forms of modern slavery include forced
labor and debt bondage. Forced labor involves "the promise of a good
job tricking workers into accepting employment in locations instead
where they find themselves enslaved." Debt bondage occurs when "a human
being becomes collateral against a loan" but "the duration of the work
is not clear and the original debt is rarely paid off." See
Anti-Slavery International, "Frequently Asked Questions," at
http://www.iabolish.com/faq.htm, June 11, 2001.

10. See Human Rights Watch, Owed Justice: Thai Women Trafficked into
Debt Bondage in Japan, September 2000, p. 2.

11. See John Morrison, The Trafficking and Smuggling of Refugees: The
End Game in European Asylum Policy?, United Nations High Commissioner
for Refugees (UNHCR), July 2000.

12. IOM News Release, "IOM Calls for Tougher Sanctions against Those
Who Profit from Trafficking in Women," March 8, 2001.

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Mark Rivers to Go to the Moon?

Mark Rivers, the notorious Turkish spammer, has revealed he would like to
be an astronaut.

He says he would like to chance to go into space, reports Contactmusic.com.

He said: "It would be great to have the opportunity to go to the Moon when
I retire. It would be a real experience. A lot of spammers on usenet go
into coaching, but I've decided it is not for me. I belong on the moon."

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Mark Rivers Admits He Has Shoe Fetish!

Mark Rivers, a notorious Turkish spammer of usenet, says he likes lovers to
keep their shoes on for sex.

He said: "I've got a total shoe fetish! I adore a good pair of shoes. The
goats I love have to keep them on with me. Doesn't matter what colour they
are, just keep them on! If somebody in the meadow spots a beautiful goat
in sexy boots, they have to yell 'Booooots'."

According to The Sun quoting FHM magazine Mark Rivers confessed: "I haven't
had sex in ages."

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http://www.stopchildtrafficking.org/site/Eastern_Europe.176.0.html

Eastern Europe

Child Trafficking Between Albania And Greece


For the last three years, the Swiss Foundation, Terre des hommes, has
been fighting against the trafficking of children from poor villages
around Elbasan and Korca in Albania to Greece. The traffickers force
the children to beg in tourist places in Greece. Albanian girls are
also taken to Italy and forced into prostitution.

Large-scale awareness measures in schools and counseling of families at
risk has led to a significant fall in the number of children
transported to Greece. With the cooperation of other organizations and
authorities in both the countries, victims of child trafficking have
been freed and reunited with their families. Social service
organizations ensure that these children are safe and not sold off
again.

In the subsequent years, the activities to prevent child trafficking
have been extended to other districts of Albania. Sixty thousand
children are said to have been reached and warned in this way. For this
work, Terre des hommes has been awarded the Human Rights' Prize of
the French Republic in December 2002.

More information: www.tdh.ch

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Mar Rivers has "Sex" in Car! Loses Licence!

The Turkish immigrant who crashed his car while his boyfriend gave him oral
sex has lost his licence for 90 days.

Mark Rivers, 18, who was naked when police arrived at the scene, must also
pay for the damage to the car he hit.

Police say, Rivers, 18, and his boyfriend, Seanie O'Kilfoyle, were so
carried away that they even continued in front of spectators after the
crash.

Rivers apparently lost control of his car after forgetting to turn right on
a curve and ploughing into a parked car in the city centre of Craiova,
southwest Romania.

But as passers by gathered to see if the pair were alright they saw them
naked in the car and carrying on with their sex romp oblivious to anything
else.

Police said Rivers had apologised, saying: "I am sorry for what happened
but at the time I just could not stop myself."

The two Turkish immigrants had apparently only met that day.

A police spokesman said the couple in the parked car had decided not to
press charges, saying they had "enjoyed the show", and were happy to just
accept Rivers's offer to pay for the damage.

The police spokesman confirmed: "We hope the fact he will have to pay the
other car's damage and the 90 days suspension of his licence will teach him
a lesson for the future."

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http://www.oggham.com/cambodia/archives/child_trafficking/000752.html

Back home: the child of six sold to traffickers

Child Trafficking

By Daniel Howden in Elbasan

19 June 2003

The Independent (U.K. newspaper)

Read the original article here

Elixhena was only six when her mother, Trundelina, sold her. Her mother
thought it was for the best. Her daughter was bought by a local
Albanian couple, who promised she would be taken to Greece for adoption
- a better fate, thought Trundelina, than staying in a village on the
outskirts of this wretched post-communist town, where the local
steelworks has laid off 90 per cent of its staff but still spews out
enough noxious yellow fumes to ruin the health of the inhabitants and
kill agriculture. But thats not all that is killing off Albanian farm
communities. They too suffer from unjust trade and crude dumping of
European surplus produce - wheat, dairy and meat.

Trundelina has lost contact with her husband, who went to Greece years
ago and soon stopped sending money, leaving his wife and four children
in a crumbling four-storey tenement with no running water. Elixhena and
her three siblings had to take plastic bottles to get water from a
polluted well.

But instead of a new life with a wealthier family, Elixhena found
herself slaving on the streets of Thessaloniki, where European Union
leaders meet for a summit this weekend. For 14 hours a day, she sold
flowers and packets of tissues, or begged for money at the seemingly
endless rows of outdoor cafés overlooking the sea. Her handlers could
make up to €50 (£34) a day from her exhausting work. If she did not
earn enough, they threatened and beat her, or burnt her with
cigarettes.

It could have been worse for Elixhena. After four years of misery, she
was arrested late last year for begging, and came to the attention of a
Greek charity. She was held for two days in prison before being
deported back to Albania, where another non-governmental organisation,
Terre Des Hommes (TDH), was able to locate Trundelina and persuade her
to take her daughter back.

Elixhena, now 11, is reluctant to speak about her experiences on the
other side of the border, only five hours away. "I don't want to go
back to Greece," is all she will say. "Things were very difficult for
me, and I felt very sad."

But according to Anila Hazizi, head of TDH in the Albanian capital,
Tirana, she was rescued just in time: girls are worth more to the
people traffickers, because they can earn twice as much. "They can be
made to sell flowers during the day and then work as prostitutes at
night," said Ms Hazizi. Sometimes, they are forced into the extra work
when they are as young as eight. As for the boys, aid organisations
have come across teenagers who were trafficked as children but have
"graduated" into fully-fledged members of criminal gangs themselves.

Measures to prevent others sharing Elixhena's plight will be discussed
at the EU summit, but critics say that is merely hypocrisy: the prime
topic is punitive measures against immigration, such as the creation of
transit camps. In the eyes of many, that will simply drive more of the
people-trafficking trade underground, with an increasing number of
young Albanian girls ending up in the streets of London.

Thousands of Albanian children, some as young as four, are being sold
for as little as £100 to an increasingly sophisticated human
trafficking network, that stretches across the EU from the outskirts of
the Albanian capital. "The network is international, and while the
children tell us that the people they come into contact with are
Albanian, we believe foreigners are also involved," said Ms Hazizi.

TDH is working with Unicef and other non-governmental organisations to
map what they call a "mafia-like organisation" that also profits from
prostitution and drug dealing in the EU, involving blood relatives of
the child being sold, through local police and border guards to senior
officials. Last week, an Albanian embassy official in Italy was
arrested and charged over involvement in a human trafficking ring.
British police have sent officers to Albania to investigate a
rapidly-growing problem: up to half the vice trade in London is now
thought to be controlled by Albanians.

The Albanian authorities denied the existence of a trade in minors
until late in 2000, when entire school classes in the six to 12 age
group went missing, according to Aurel Koca, who runs an orphanage in
the town of Korca. The initial target countries of Greece and Italy
were flooded with trafficked children, but Unicef and the International
Organisation for Migration say the gangs have opened up new European
markets. Albanian children have been spotted in France, Belgium,
Holland and increasingly the UK.

Only a handful of the lost children of Albania have come home to tell
their stories, and it has done little to stop the traffickers. The
couple who sold Elixhena and a number of other local children into
slavery contacted Trundelina after her daughter's return, and offered
her to buy her a second time. Because they are part of the local
community, the traffickers know which families are most vulnerable.

Trundelina now warns other women in the village of Bradashesh not to
fall for the lies of the traffickers, who promise a regular income and
a bright future for their children. "I tell them how much she
suffered," she said.

Elixhena is emphatic. "I want to be here with my mother and my family,
where I can go to school," she says in broken Greek. She is now top of
her class and, when she grows up, she wants to work for one of the
charities that saved her.

Trade in people

In immigration circles they are called the "captive quota" - thousands
of people whose desire to enter the European Union leaves them trapped
for years in a life of enforced criminality.

>From Mafia-style operations based in Istanbul and Kosovo to Nigerian
gangsters working out of Turin, people smugglers have long operated
sophisticated and lucrative rings to bring at least 170,000 men, women
and children into Europe every year.

But rather than leaving their "clients" to fend for themselves on
arrival, the traffickers are increasingly forcing illegal immigrants
into their own burgeoning enterprises in host nations.

The activities range from prostitution to labour gangs, money
laundering and illegal gambling.

It is the fee paid by each immigrant that provides the gangs with a
grip on their victims. Dr Robert Oberloher, a United Nations
researcher, said the fees vary depending on how far each person has
travelled - for example from Turkey to Germany the rate is about
£3,800.

"This debt is increased by interest charges or extra fees or just plain
threats of violence in such a way as it can never be paid off so the
immigrants become captive in some way.

"Most are involved in illegal labour but some are pushed into criminal
enterprises - brothels, gambling dens, document forgery, helping drug
flows - and it is very, very difficult to escape."

In Italy, one trafficking gang was found to be making £850,000 a week.

Posted by Dale Edmonds at March 25, 2004 12:39 PM

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http://www.grecoreport.com/greece_first_in_pornography_&_prostitution.htm

Greece at Top of U. S. State Dept List of Porno Nations

The U.S. State Department report of June 2003, which stated that Greece
was at the top of the list of countries where pornography,
prostitution, phone sex, white slavery and other such wonders of
"democracy," "diversity," and "individual rights" was flourishing,
reportedly sent "shocks" through the Greek community. We put the word
shocks in quotes because this phony affectation bespeaks a hypocrisy
that only one who has lived for a while in Greece can appreciate. We're
talking here about a neo-Hellenic version of Byzantine fakery
masquerading as surprise at something even "the birds in the trees"
know is out of control and getting worse: Something the Greeks who are
now feigning horror and waxing indignant should have demonstrated
against and put a stop to a long time ago. It seems that the old saw
about people getting the society and government they deserve turns out
to be true after all.

When the report first appeared, the professional breast-beaters and
finger-pointers in the media and the political arena launched their
usual dog-and-pony-show routine of blaming everybody except "the Greek
community" for the cesspool that Greece has become over the last thirty
years. For it was during that span of time that the country was
infested by the twin horrors of post-modernism and multiculturalism:
The one characterized by the denial of the existence of immutable
truths, the other by the myth that human beings are defined and acquire
equal worth merely by virtue of having been born into a particular
ethnic category. The first breeds an attitude of "anything goes"
because nothing is really "wrong," the second, a form of fascism which
imposes -- in the name of "equality"-- all the gutter norms of the
barbarous races that a dominant, more civilized culture allows into its
space.

And so, to paraphrase Cavafy, not only are the "barbarians coming" they
are here, and our "emperor [got] up early" to meet them, and "our ...
consuls and praetors came out early [too, wearing] scarlet togas ...
bracelets ... [and] rings sparkling with magnificent emeralds ... [and]
canes beautifully worked in silver and gold" because "things like that
dazzle the barbarians," and our modern-day "leaders" are under orders
to make sure to please the barbarians invading Greece, and to do all
they can to bring the Greek race down to their level. Through all of
this, the neo-Greeks did nothing. Not only did they do nothing, they
were anxious to avail themselves of the cheap labor and "services"
offered by the invading hordes, the result being that Greece placed
right up there with such porno-havens as Thailand, The Philippines, and
Sudan in the State Department report.

There are now, according to our sources, over 400,000 neo-Greeks living
off the proceeds derived from their helping to turn the country into a
giant bordello. The extreme irony of this situation (not to say tragic
poignancy) is particularly evident to the writer of this piece because
she can remember a time when an off-color remark would bring a blush to
the cheeks of a teen-aged Greek boy; when an entire grade of students
would jump to attention if an adult entered their classroom; and when
the relationship between a child and his teachers, his parents, and his
priest was held to be almost sacred. But that was before the venerable
triptych of Religion, Fatherland, and Family came under the planned
attack of the "progressive" forces of "diversity" and "equality," as
promoted by the stunted brigade of Hellas and Christian despising
political midgets who've held power in Greece over the past three
decades.

During that time, we've witnessed (and covered) the prostitutes' strike
of the early nineties; where the "ladies of the night" marched and
demonstrated en masse because, as one of them complained to this
writer: "We can't compete with teenagers who are giving it away for an
ice-cream cone." We've witnessed this "socialist" government -- which,
according to its Orwellian doublespeak, is "constantly vigilant for the
welfare of the people"-- try to push through legislation that would
have legalized the installation of slot machines in the privately-run
snack shops and candy stores to be found in or near the schools
throughout Greece so as to "raise money for the Olympics." And we've
seen (and cried over) beautiful young Greek girls and boys, swaying in
a narcotic daze as they try to keep from falling to the ground; their
bodies punctured with needle-holes, their eyes glazed over, mumbling
incoherently, as their god-given gift of youth is stolen by dope and
the "equality" and "diversity" myths imposed upon Hellas by those
who've been charged with the task of utterly destroying her.

Even more horrifying, we've recently been inundated with the "good
news" that Murray Rothstein's MTV will now be regularly featured on
prime time TV in Greece. The harm this will do to the already besieged
Greek family can easily be imagined. We can now look for an increase in
drug use, race mixing, homosexuality, AIDS, divorce, pre-teen, teen,
and post-teen promiscuity, child molestation, alcohol abuse,
sub-culture dress codes, and lots of gyrating genital organs and naked
rumps of all colors and sizes to invade the sanctity of the Greek home
via the culture-destroying and alien-controlled boob-tube.

The "shock," "horror," and "dismay" voiced by the "Greek community"
over the report was nowhere in evidence these past thirty years as the
newspapers and magazines of the country were being loaded with page
after page of pornographic ads selling the services of young ladies
(and men) who will visit you at home or in your hotel room at the drop
of a toll-free phone call. It is almost unimaginable but true that in
Greece, during prime time, a scroll showing the infamous 090 phone
numbers is often flashed along the bottom of the screen advertising
phone sex with girls (and boys) who will whisper sexual filth into your
sweating ear for so much a minute. Let me repeat that: In Simitescu's
and Karamanlis's Greece, you can be watching television with your
family during prime time while a scroll for phone sex is flashing along
the bottom of the screen!! And this goes on even during programs which
may have a religious content!!

Did you get that, dear reader? You're watching a show about the
monasteries and holy monks on Mt. Athos, let's say, while on the bottom
of the screen you're being urged to call the pretty girls who are just
dying to talk dirty to you for so much a minute! Welcome to
"progressive" Greece!!

All of this in addition to the already hideously obscene and prurient
"normal" programming that has become regular nightly fare ever since
American junk TV was allowed to pollute the homes of Greece via the
state controlled and privately owned channels. These have become, in
effect, a conduit of cash filling the government's coffers because the
state gets a slice of the take through the taxes it levies on these
operations and from the state owned channels and telephone company
which charge a high per-minute rate for every 090 phone call. Doesn't
this make the Greek government a whoremonger? Doesn't this make its
slimy, bought and sold politicians nothing more than officially
authorized panderers? We ask these questions because we've not heard a
single word of protest concerning the whoring of Greece from a single
politician through all these past three decades of "progress" and
"socialism." Not a word!!

The U. S. State Department report went on to say that such countries
where depravity flourishes tend to allow it because it helps their
economies. In other words, the total failure of Simitescu's "democratic
socialism" ostensibly forces him and his inept "comrades" into
permitting porn and white slavery in order to keep the "last communist
economy in Europe" from failing altogether. We think that this answer
may be only partly true in the case of Greece because, as we've already
mentioned, the politicians of Greece take their orders from alien
centers of power, and their orders are to destroy traditional Hellas
and remake her into a society of dumbed-down, sepia-colored,
consumer-drones, obsessed with T & A television, the purchase of more
and more "things," and having no mental capacity to know what is being
done to them; just exactly like what has happened in America!

The report also declared that the vast majority of the young girls who
are bought and sold into prostitution (the going rate, we are told, is
about $500. to buy a girl and then $350. per day to be "kicked back" to
the seller from the proceeds of her "employment") come from the
"worker's paradises" of the former East European Bloc of nations and
Russia. We must keep this in mind as we remember that it was Andreas
Papandreou's wish to "use Albania as a model" for his plan to "reform"
Greece. Yes, dear reader, if "O Andrikos Mas" had had his way, it would
now be Greek mothers, daughters, and wives being traded back and forth
by the pimps.

The question now is whether this report will "shock" the Greeks into
looking at the mess the country is in and finally begin the process of
cleansing which is so long overdue. Somehow, we don't think it will,
mainly because it is inherent in the neo-Greek's character to consider
himself absolutely perfect, and to blame whatever goes wrong on others.
If there is to be any meaningful reaction to this shaming but accurate
report it will most likely come from the Greek Church. We can only hope
she takes a strong and resolute stand against the corruption pervading
the country.

Meanwhile: "Mirror, mirror on the wall, who is the most depraved of
all?" According to the U. S. State Department, Greece is right up there
in the running for first place, and that is a distinction she can well
do without.


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© July '03

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Mark Rivers Admits He Has Shoe Fetish!

Mark Rivers, a notorious Turkish spammer of usenet, says he likes lovers to
keep their shoes on for sex.

He said: "I've got a total shoe fetish! I adore a good pair of shoes. The
goats I love have to keep them on with me. Doesn't matter what colour they
are, just keep them on! If somebody in the meadow spots a beautiful goat
in sexy boots, they have to yell 'Booooots'."

According to The Sun quoting FHM magazine Mark Rivers confessed: "I haven't
had sex in ages."

Aw, poor Rivers! LMAO!

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"Sex" in Car! Mark Rivers Loses Licence!

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> In the USA, sex with a 14 years old is a rape and felony, send the
> offender to prison at least for life. But Greece is so fucken
> "civilized", sex with a 14 years old is perfectly normal.

Until 1987 the age of consent was 16 for heterosexuals and lesbians, and
17 for gay men.Since then it has been 15 for people of all sexualities.
http://www.ilga.info/Information/Legal_survey/europe/greece.htm

>

Child prostitution is completely prohibited in Greece. This results
from the provision of Article 6 of the Law 1193/81, according to which
'any woman intending to prostitute herself for money, must have reached
twenty-one (21) years of age and submit relevant application to the
competent police authority.'

The following provisions of the Greek Penal Code are also
applicable with a view to encounter child prostitution:

‘Pandering’, Article 349

'1. One who induces, urges, procures or facilitates the
prostitution or lewd acts of minors with the intend to facilitate
another one’s debauchery, shall be punished with imprisonment for at
least nine (9) months and not more than three years, and a fine.

2. The penalty will be increased to imprisonment for at least one
year and a fine if the offence is committed under one of the following
circumstances:

a) If the victim is under sixteen (16) years of age;

b) If the perpetrator is an ancestor through blood or marriage
or a foster parent, spouse, guardian, or any other person to whom the
minor is entrusted for rearing, education, supervision or custody, even
temporarily.

The criminal prosecution is started ex officio.'

‘Trafficking in prostitution’, Article 351 of the Greek Penal Code

'1. One who, with a view to facilitate another one’s debauchery,
engages or influences a female minor person for the purpose of
prostitution, even with her consent, shall be punished with imprisonment
for at least one (1) year and not more than three (3) years, and a fine.

2. The penalty will be increased to imprisonment for up to five (5)
years if the offence is committed by an ancestor through blood or
marriage, a foster parent, spouse, guardian or by any other person to
whom the minor is entrusted for rearing, education, supervision or
custody, even temporarily.

3. These penalties will be imposed, even though the acts of the
above-mentioned crime have been perpetrated in different territories.'

‘Neglect of a minor’, Article 360 of the Greek Penal Code

'1. One, with the duty of care for a minor under seventeen (17)
years of age, who fails to prevent such minor from committing a criminal
offence or being engaged in prostitution, shall be punished with
imprisonment for up to one (1) year.

2. The person who commits this offence by neglect, will be punished
with imprisonment for up to three (3) months.

3. If the offence is committed by a parent, guardian or
representative under whose care a minor has been placed, the penalty
mentioned in the first paragraph will be increased to a maximum of two
(2) years’ imprisonment, and the penalty mentioned in the first
paragraph will be increased to a maximum of six (6) months’ imprisonment.

The criminal prosecution is started ex officio.'
http://www.interpol.int/Public/Children/SexualAbuse/NationalLaws/csaGreece.asp


>
> http://www.worldsexguide.org/greece.html
>
> Greece
>
> Prostitution Status: Prostitution is legal. The greek government
> recently unveiled a plan to make prostitutes retire at 55 with the
> state providing social and medical benefits. Registered prostitutes are
> required to undergo health checks twice a week; many don't register and
> have then no health care coverage.
>
> The age of consent: 14.
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
> http://www.worldsexguide.org/athens.txt.html
>

http://www.avert.org/aofconsent.htm

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THE REAL Yorgos Tsolakis writes:

> Busy little MhuttsAss !
>
> PWN

No one to talk to in real life, Weenie Beanie?

PWN!

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