Tut, tut, McP . . . OUB is a Yorkshireman.
He shouldn't be mentioned until later . . .
"Rugby legend Ian McGeechan, the British Lions and
former Scotland coach, was knighted in today�s New
Year�s honours list.
McGeechan coached Scotland to a Grand Slam in 1990**
and took part in seven Lions� tours in a career widely
seen as one of the most distinguished in rugby union history.
** 17th March 1990 . . . I was there !
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> Patrick Stewart, the British actor who made his name in Star Trek, is
> the most famous person to be awarded a knighthood from the arts world.+
And that statement will be hotly debated...................
>Actually I've been standing on my balcony with an ear cocked towards
>Holland to see if I could hear the screams of joy from you know
>who...
Too busy cooking - it's my turn to host the Waifs and Strays Hogmanay
dinner.
Thank heavens for slow cookers - the Stiphado's beginning to smell
lovely!
Lesley Robertson
:Patrick Stewart, the British actor who made his name in Star Trek, is
:the most famous person to be awarded a knighthood from the arts world.
This year, you mean.
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man persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore,
all progress depends on the unreasonable man."
--George Bernard Shaw
I'm not certain that she's there !
She said something about flying somewhere and wasn't
looking forward to it as she normally took her car.
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I sure hope so.
Indeed. I will say, though, he looked very nice in tights.
- nilita
Still, Sir Patrick sounds okay- at least you'd be welcomed at most
restaurants in London!
The English are such terrible snobs.
(Woman are such male bum connoisseurs... - the scars I could show you
my dear...)
:On Dec 31, 9:08�am, "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
:> conwaycaine wrote:
:> > "The Highlander" <mich...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
:> >news:6436d2b6-8999-4d31...@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
:>
:> >> Patrick Stewart, the British actor who made his name in Star Trek, is
:> >> the most famous person to be awarded a knighthood from the arts
:> >> world.+
:>
:> > And that statement will be hotly debated...................
:>
:> Indeed. �I will say, though, he looked very nice in tights.
:>
:
:(Woman are such male bum connoisseurs...
:
And that's why so many women wind up married to male bums?
<ducking>
--
"I believe that forgiving them is God's function. Our job is
simply to arrange the meeting."
-- General Norman Schwarzkopf
As I recall, it had been withdrawn initially (two years prior)
on the grounds that he was 'Too Scottish' (he wanted to
read the Declaration Of Arbroath on the Parliament Floor,
if I remember correctly).
Good Knight,
The Phantom Piper
That is wrong on so many levels. kirk was the only real Captain and
should have been knighted a long time back.
Take a piece of lamb (works best with individual portions). Wrap it in
a piece of tinfoil that's been coated in corn oil and sprinkled with
lemon juice, pepper, oregano and thyme. Cook as slowly as possible for
at least 5 hours, depending on how large the pieces of lamb are. 5
hours for chops, I had 2 half legs last evening and gave it 8 hours in
my slow cooker. Serve with potatoes boiled with rosemary and whatever
veg you fancy, use the juice instead of gravy.
It's a Cypriot dish. Tastes good, very simple and perfect if the rest
of the meal's going to need attention. I usually take it to the table
in the tinfoil, and let people upen their own servings. If you don't
have a slow cooker, make sure you use a dish with a heavy lid to
prevent the meat from drying out.
Lesley Robertson
> Take a piece of lamb (works best with individual portions). Wrap it
> in a piece of tinfoil that's been coated in corn oil and sprinkled
> with lemon juice, pepper, oregano and thyme. Cook as slowly as
> possible for at least 5 hours, depending on how large the pieces of
> lamb are. 5 hours for chops, I had 2 half legs last evening and gave
> it 8 hours in my slow cooker. Serve with potatoes boiled with
> rosemary and whatever veg you fancy, use the juice instead of gravy.
>
> It's a Cypriot dish. Tastes good, very simple and perfect if the
> rest of the meal's going to need attention. I usually take it to the
> table in the tinfoil, and let people upen their own servings. If you
> don't have a slow cooker, make sure you use a dish with a heavy lid
> to prevent the meat from drying out.
Sounds wonderful. I've been hearing more lately about cooking -
particularly roasting - substantially longer times at lower
temperatures. I heard a story on the radio around US Thanksgiving
this year about doing turkey roulades with truffle stuffing, cooked at
160-200 degrees (F; 70-95C)
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120631197
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Once I get the visual of Mary's Little Lamb out of my head, it does indeed
sound wonderfully savoury.
- nilita
Have you ever used a Tagine?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tajine
Mmmmmmm!,
The Phantom Piper
Mary's Little Lamb arrived in separate courses,
with the bulk of it tied up in a Rack Dijon and
served with some lovely roasted potatoes.
Folding A Napkin,
The Phantom Piper
I am sooooo .... glad that I was able to find the Far Side Cartoon of 1987
that made me and my friends LOL like crazy (lovely that these classics are
archived):
Before you link to the cartoon, here is the caption:
That evening, with her blinds pulled, Mary had three helpings of corn, two
baked potatoes, extra bread, and a little lamb.
http://phonographia.com/SourcePhonoToons/GL9-10-87%20500.jpg
The Far Side
Artist: Gary Larson, September 10, 1987
> Take a piece of lamb (works best with individual portions). Wrap it in a
> piece of tinfoil that's been coated in corn oil and sprinkled with lemon
> juice, pepper, oregano and thyme.
Do you sear the meat first?
Deirdre
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No. I would if I wasn't using the tinfoil, but it's mucg better
wrapped.
You use escaped juices as a gravy replacement.
Lesley Robertson
Certainly as far as the UK goes I imagine Francis Rossi and Rick Parfitt of
Status Quo are as least as well known and in truth probably far better known
that Patrick Stewart. We watched Next Generation avidly but it wasn't the
same nationwide hit as the original Star Trek and the actors weren't as well
known here though of course Stewart was because he was bald and British. I
don't think he's particularly remembered by the bulk of the masses for much
else though. Whereas Quo had been regulars in the charts and TV screens for
quite a few decades since the 1960s.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZHH7gsKbE0
Allan
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZHH7gsKbE0
Does that show a major cross-pondian difference? I would have been
unable to place Rossi, Parfitt or Quo, tho' I watched most of the Star
Trek variants.
--
James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland
Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not
We watched all the Star Treks too. The later ones though didn't have huge
audiences like the original and to a lesser extent Next Generation did.
Don't get me wrong Stewart is famous here but yes, it is a cross-pondian
difference. Status Quo are one of most succesful groups ever in the UK. I've
got the Guiness Book of British Hit Singles and Albums dating to the end of
2004 and I can count 53 top 40 hits between 1968 and 2004 and 30 top 40
albums up to that point. In fact they have had more chart hits in the UK
singles chart than any other group including the likes of the Stones, U2
etc. In their real heyday (for about 5 years or so from the early 70s) they
were massive amongst the younger audience. After that they fell into a kind
of a trap where they got slagged for repeating the same old 3 chords
ad-nauseum and they lost a bit of their harder edge too and went quite
poppy - though they were still large enough in the mid-80s to open the Live
Aid concert.
Allan
And - as I said at the time I went to see them on the 15th of
December!
I was part of that heyday group in the mid-seventies.
'Down, down, deeper and down'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKe2OfXLxuc
Neb
Geek Alert!
Did the original Trek do well in the UK? It's ratings in the
states were lukewarm at best. That's why it only lasted three years.
I'd bet the Next Generation did better ratings-wise for its time (when
the original was on, there were pretty much only three choices...with
a few local stations in the largest markets).
The next two (Deep Space Nine and Voyager) were syndicated...over
here, thatmeans picked up in each market whereever they could sign a
contract and didn't have great ratings, either. (i don't remember if
The Next Generation was syndicated...it might've been) The last
(Enterprise) was on a network that had few stations and really ticked
off the core audience. It's ratings were abysmal.
(I've put the names in because I've read series often have
different names on each side of the pond)
Geek Alert!
Did the original Trek do well in the UK? It's ratings in the
states were lukewarm at best. That's why it only lasted three years.
I'd bet the Next Generation did better ratings-wise for its time (when
the original was on, there were pretty much only three choices...with
a few local stations in the largest markets).
***********************************************
I'm not sure about the actual ratings when it was initially out. I was just
a kid. However for TV the original had a big impact over the years as it was
rerun. The names of the crew of the original series will still be far better
known here than any of the later series. We did watch some reruns just a few
years back and it certainly doesn't stand up to modern standards. Terrible
sets and iffy acting :-) We enjoyed both Voyager and Enterprise.
Allan
I heard his Prospero was excellent, and his MacBeth as well.
Did you know that Captain Picard played Claudius
against Dr. Who's (David Tennant) Hamlet?
"A man may fish with the worm that hath eat of a
king, and cat of the fish that hath fed of that worm."
(Yet more proof that Cats are at the pinnacle of the food chain.)
Out, Damned Spot,
The Phantom Piper
>>> Patrick Stewart, the British actor who made his name in Star Trek, is
>>> the most famous person to be awarded a knighthood from the arts world.+
>>
>> And that statement will be hotly debated...................
>
>
> Certainly as far as the UK goes I imagine Francis Rossi and Rick Parfitt
> of
> Status Quo are as least as well known and in truth probably far better
> known
> that Patrick Stewart. We watched Next Generation avidly but it wasn't the
> same nationwide hit as the original Star Trek and the actors weren't as
> well
> known here though of course Stewart was because he was bald and British. I
> don't think he's particularly remembered by the bulk of the masses for
> much
> else though. Whereas Quo had been regulars in the charts and TV screens
> for
> quite a few decades since the 1960s.
When Sir Patrick took over, I thought him the most wooded actor I'd ever
seen.
But I pressed on.
And in time, I found him to be a far better Captain Kirk than the fat guy
ever was.
The entire cast was first rate.
>
> When Sir Patrick took over, I thought him the most wooded actor I'd
> ever seen.
> But I pressed on.
> And in time, I found him to be a far better Captain Kirk than the fat
> guy ever was.
Give Shatner his due, though. His OTT performances were definitely tongue
in cheek.
Can we put Ryker and Troi in the exploding shuttle with him?
Yeagh you are quire right about X-Men too. I'd forgotten about that. RSC
doesn't really count though. I was talking about being well known by the
bulk of the population. As I said I'm not saying he isn't famous.
Allan
It took a couple of seasons to settle in, but he got better.
> But I pressed on.
> And in time, I found him to be a far better Captain Kirk than the fat guy
> ever was.
Uh, Picard.....not Kirk.
> The entire cast was first rate.
Wow, we have different tastes.
Different tastes. Voyager, to me, was weak because they could
never decide if Janeway should be a b*tch or a pushover. If you're
going to use a woman captain, make her a captain. I thought Enterprise
was the weakest even though I liked the cast.
I heard his Prospero was excellent, and his MacBeth as well.
Did you know that Captain Picard played Claudius
against Dr. Who's (David Tennant) Hamlet?
************
Yup. It was on TV over Christmas. Excellent stuff.
Lesley Robertson
Unless they spend too much time hanging around Chinese restaurants.
The Other White Meat
>
>
> Out, Damned Spot,
>
> The Phantom Piper
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The less chance we have of being killed." - William Topaz McGonagall
<BARF>
- nil, cancelling next week's dinner date at the Double Happiness ....
Wotsamadda? Don't like 'chicken'?
Works for me.
Troi was the second most annoying character...after
Wesley..."I...feel....." Blech....but she did have her, uh, good
points.
Aw, just bring along Dax.
Yeah, he did seem to it play for the laughs.
The attire of his girls was first rate.
I still have visions of the Greek doctor.
Well, she wasn't really a doctor.
More like the ship's counselor.
Uh, Picard.....not Kirk.
***
Work with me here.
> The entire cast was first rate.
Wow, we have different tastes.
****
This from a Ramp eater???
I have eaten ramps....I don't eat ramps.
She was fine until she opened her mouth.
> Aw, just bring along Dax.
You have to distinguish amongst the Daxen, though - you probably mean
Jadzia? Certainly better than Gidget...
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In San Francisco we have the 'Five Happiness'!
(It just goes to show you how much Happiness
gets lost over so great a distance...)
Having 60% More Happiness,
The Phantom Piper
Ohhh ... mannn ... now I feel really ripped off .... I just might grab those
huge fish that are trapped in a tank at the entranceway ....
And feed them to the caged cats outside the back exit.
True and yes.
Troi was GREEK!!!!!!!!!!!
And well worth the watching.
*******
Egad but you have high standards.
And her skin tight jump suits.................
************
Humph
The only thing more annoying than a whiny hot chick is a whiny not-
so-hot chick. (oink)
Errrr No !
Counselor Deanna Troy (with a 'Y') aka Marina Sirtis is *nglish born !
She was born in East End of London, raised in North London, emigrated
to the U.S. in the late 1980s and became a naturalized U.S. citizen.
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Does anyone remember the late Persis Khambatta who played Lt. Ilia in one of
the ST movies?
- nilita
********
Well, if you are contrasting her to those exceedingly lovely Knoxville girls
I met in my youth, I'd have to agree.
"I met a little girl in Knoxville"
"Way down in Knoxville town"
> :> And that brings you back to Troi, Troi, Troi, Troi....
> :
> :And her skin tight jump suits.................
> :
>
> The actress once made the comment that they were so tight that you
> could tell when she'd had a particularly heavy lunch before shooting.
>
> Someone was looking at her STOMACH?
Hells bells, Fred. I'd watch even her thumbs, given the opportunity.
>>Troi was GREEK!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Errrr No !
> Counselor Deanna Troy (with a 'Y') aka Marina Sirtis is *nglish born !
>
> She was born in East End of London, raised in North London, emigrated
> to the U.S. in the late 1980s and became a naturalized U.S. citizen.
Okay, Mister Picker of Nits.
She was of Greek ancestry (I hope)
A common misunderstanding between the residents of the Blessed Isle and
those of us living over here on Hell's front porch.
No, I've got no problem with Marina Sirtis. The CHARACTER sucked.
She came across as a whiny thing....too freaking sensitive, etc (i
know, that was the whole point of the empath character).
Not bad for a bald chick.....but the movie really sucked.
To show how advanced we'd become. None of that warlike-kickass of
Kirk and company.
If you didn't watch it, how do you know enough to decide it was bad?
Like Enterprise, the first series wasn't wonderful, but it improved.
The episodes around 7 of 9 where Janeway was trying to teach her about
being a free individual, and then had to admit that there were
limitations on that freedom because Janeway would not let her return
to the Borg were excellent.
Lesley Robertson
> Counselor Deanna Troy (with a 'Y')
The official answer:
http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/TNG/character/1112460.html
And some others:
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Deanna_Troi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deanna_Troi
http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0001461/
>On 04 Jan 2010 in soc.culture.scottish, Josiah Jenkins wrote:
>
>> Counselor Deanna Troy (with a 'Y')
Looks like I owe Mr Caine an apology.
Although, in my defence, I never was a fan and
it is spelt with the 'Y' in several places.
******
Perhaps if you had muted the volume while she was speaking, or used
captions, you would have enjoyed watching her as much as I did.
Of course.
After all,how many years have I been exposed to Yurpthink?
Think nothing of it, doc.
I've made far too many blunders around here to chortle with glee over
another's mispost.
Knot me!!!!!!!!!
Knot me!!!!!!!!!
******
Speaking of knots, are you faring well during this Little Ice Age we are
having?
Just fine. We haven't gotten much snow, so the roads have stayed
clear. I am hoping a bit of that global warming will kick in soon.
*********
Apparently the vaunted Hot Breath from Oz has been overrated as a
contributing factor to Global Warming.
I think it's just Gawd protecting his chosen people from the heat
wave.
********
I noticed in the paper that parts of South Britain have accumulated up to
eighteen inches of Global Warming during this latest heat wave.
Record cold temperatures as well.
Just an anomaly though.
We have the word of a group of unbiased Climatologists from six different
(but unnamed) Universities on that.
As AWS would say, "drip, drip, drip" except it's not the earth melting:
it's the snow melting on the roof...
Global Mean Anomaly for December = 0.28C. Down AGAIN.
I think "drip, drip, drip" is Adam's favorite debating technique.
He being much into Chinese water torture.
(Where is the old boy anyway?