What's at stake? Exports of around �2.7 billion, according to latest figures
(http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Topics/Statistics/Browse/Economy/Exports/SGCS2006tables).
That's compared to exports of 850 million to the whole of Africa, of which
Libya is likely to be a trivial proportion.
The US is Scotland's most important export market if you disregard the rest
of the UK. Americans buy 100 million bottles of whisky for $370 million
every year.
American visitors to Scotland spent �257 million in 2007, making them the
commonest and highest spending tourists.
3,000 small businesses export from Scotland.
"A FURIOUS anti-Scottish backlash over the decision to free the Lockerbie
bomber erupted last night as Americans threatened to cancel trips across the
Atlantic and were urged to stop doing business with Scotland.
The Scottish tourism agency VisitScotland confirmed it had received e-mails
from Americans saying they no longer wanted to holiday in Scotland in the
aftermath of Kenny MacAskill's decision to free Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed
al-Megrahi."
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/scotland/39Boycott-Scotland39-bid-to-brand.5578581.jp
Bet you support the Moronican scum in their lame "boycott" too, don't you
Stumpty, you treacherous loser ?
Cheap!
>
> American visitors to Scotland spent �257 million in 2007, making them the
> commonest and highest spending tourists.
>
> 3,000 small businesses export from Scotland.
>
> "A FURIOUS anti-Scottish backlash over the decision to free the Lockerbie
> bomber erupted last night as Americans threatened to cancel trips across
> the Atlantic and were urged to stop doing business with Scotland.
>
> The Scottish tourism agency VisitScotland confirmed it had received
> e-mails from Americans saying they no longer wanted to holiday in Scotland
> in the aftermath of Kenny MacAskill's decision to free Abdelbaset Ali
> Mohmed al-Megrahi."
>
>
> http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/scotland/39Boycott-Scotland39-bid-to-brand.5578581.jp
I don't think this will worry the Scots too much. Any drop-off in revenues
will be subsidised by their ever-benevolent English neighbours.
:-)
Where's RH these days?
No. Now answer my question.
So why did you say you did?
> Now answer my question.
I'm trying to think of a reason to...
Is it the case that the Scots are more compassionate in general than
people in the US and the remainder of the UK? Do they also differ over
torture and imprisonment without trial?
Where is the antidote for the poison of lies and distrust?
j
>>>>> http://www.boycottscotland.com
Quote where I said I supported it.
>> Now answer my question.
>
> I'm trying to think of a reason to...
Answer the question, Zionazi.
I don't think you did.
>
>>> Now answer my question.
>>
>> I'm trying to think of a reason to...
>
> Answer the question, Zionazi.
It's a tricky issue. One would like to see justice done, but it's hard to
see where justice lies. It would be interesting discussing it with somebody
capable of understanding the intricacies, but I don't think you're that
person.
>>>>>>> http://www.boycottscotland.com
So why did you say "So why did you say you did?", above ? Surely, you're
not a *liar*, David ?
>>>> Now answer my question.
>>>
>>> I'm trying to think of a reason to...
>>
>> Answer the question, Zionazi.
>
> It's a tricky issue. One would like to see justice done, but it's hard to
> see where justice lies. It would be interesting discussing it with
> somebody capable of understanding the intricacies, but I don't think
> you're that person.
Your precious Moronican bullies got sand kicked in their faces, and you're
unhappy. I think that's as intricate as we need to get in order to
understand your "agenda" here, Divveh.
You said something along the lines of "I bet you support the yanks on this".
Always keen to show a polite interest I asked, "do you?"
You then said no. I was a bit confused in light of your earlier statement,
but I won't press you on it.
>
>>>>> Now answer my question.
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying to think of a reason to...
>>>
>>> Answer the question, Zionazi.
>>
>> It's a tricky issue. One would like to see justice done, but it's hard to
>> see where justice lies. It would be interesting discussing it with
>> somebody capable of understanding the intricacies, but I don't think
>> you're that person.
>
> Your precious Moronican bullies got sand kicked in their faces, and you're
> unhappy. I think that's as intricate as we need to get in order to
> understand your "agenda" here, Divveh.
Do you?
It's a simple question and one which you seem determined to avoid answering.
But fear not, you have already answered it in your wrigglings and
squirmings.
I imagine you do think it's a simple question.
I believe that when Dr Swire has severe doubts the
rest of us should not rush to boycott anywhere.
And what a dishonorable history boycotts of countries
have.
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.boycottscotland.com
It's clearly proving to be beyond you.
I was right before. You are lonely, aren't you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.boycottscotland.com
Do you support the Moronicans in their lame "boycott" of Scotland, Davey ?
"Yes" or "No" will suffice.
What does it matter what I support? More interesting would be working out
what's at stake. You're not capable of doing that...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.boycottscotland.com
Your continued evasion is noted.
*noted*, Creepy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.boycottscotland.com
The main thing that will be *noted* by everyone is that you initiated a
topic but strangely seem to be *very* reluctant to explicitly state an
opinion on that topic.
So, I shall give you one last opportunity to do so. Do you support the
Moronicans in their lame "boycott" of Scotland, Divveh ?
Remember, intelligence only responds to intelligence :-)
Say something interesting, and I might respond.
Continue your empty braying, and I will continue leading you up the garden
path.
> So, I shall give you one last opportunity to do so.
I doubt this is my last opportunity. The newsgroup will be here tomorrow,
and the day after.
>http://www.boycottscotland.com
>
>What's at stake? Exports of around �2.7 billion, according to latest figures
>(http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Topics/Statistics/Browse/Economy/Exports/SGCS2006tables).
>
>That's compared to exports of 850 million to the whole of Africa, of which
>Libya is likely to be a trivial proportion.
>
>The US is Scotland's most important export market if you disregard the rest
>of the UK. Americans buy 100 million bottles of whisky for $370 million
>every year.
>
>American visitors to Scotland spent �257 million in 2007, making them the
>commonest and highest spending tourists.
>
>3,000 small businesses export from Scotland.
Boycotting a country's goods without the permission of the US
government is illegal in the US.
>
>"A FURIOUS anti-Scottish backlash over the decision to free the Lockerbie
>bomber erupted last night as Americans threatened to cancel trips across the
>Atlantic and were urged to stop doing business with Scotland.
>
>The Scottish tourism agency VisitScotland confirmed it had received e-mails
>from Americans saying they no longer wanted to holiday in Scotland in the
>aftermath of Kenny MacAskill's decision to free Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed
>al-Megrahi."
>
Although to be fair most of them would have been put off when they
realised they needed a passport.
Seriously though, if this gathers pace, it will be interesting to see how
the porridge wogs cope. They are instinctually victims and to have another
country come the victim with them, will be fascinating. My guess though, is
that it will all run out of steam in a couple of weeks.
>
> Where's RH these days?
Under his bed, hiding from Margaret Thatcher. Poor chap's lost it IMO.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.boycottscotland.com
>> So, I shall give you one last opportunity to do so.
>
> I doubt this is my last opportunity. The newsgroup will be here tomorrow,
> and the day after.
But your credibility will certainly *not* be !
>> Do you support the Moronicans in their lame "boycott" of Scotland,
>> Divveh ?
>> "Yes" or "No" will suffice.
Your refusal to answer exposes you as a neo-con shill, whose allegiances lie
not with your alleged homeland (the UK), but with Moronica. Game, set and
match to me.
Won't it?
>
>>> Do you support the Moronicans in their lame "boycott" of Scotland,
>>> Divveh ?
>>> "Yes" or "No" will suffice.
>
> Your refusal to answer exposes you as a neo-con shill,
Does it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.boycottscotland.com
Definitely not.
>>>> Do you support the Moronicans in their lame "boycott" of Scotland,
>>>> Divveh ?
>>>> "Yes" or "No" will suffice.
>>
>> Your refusal to answer exposes you as a neo-con shill,
>
> Does it?
Yes.
Your allegiances lie not with your alleged homeland (the UK), but with
So happy to see that y'all have your morons, too!
Do you wish you were worth arguing with?
You're not kidding, that's about two and a half quid a bottle.
I wish I could buy it for that...
--
William Black
"Any number under six"
The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat
single handed with a quarterstaff.
What do they want? The guys half dead already? Stupid american cunts.
Hardy
The US army officer convicted for his part in the My Lai massacre
during the Vietnam War has offered his first public apology, a US
report says.
"There is not a day that goes by that I do not feel remorse for what
happened," Lt William Calley was quoted as saying by the Columbus
Ledger-Enquirer.
He was addressing a small group at a community club in Columbus,
Georgia.
Calley, 66, was convicted on 22 counts of murder for the 1968 massacre
of 500 men, women and children in Vietnam.
He was sentenced to life in prison for his role in the killings in
1971. Then-US President Richard Nixon commuted his sentence to three
years' house arrest.!!!
3 years! That's less than the Libyan Bomber!!!!!!!
Oh you clever people.
Pounds not dollars. But that still makes it �3.70 a bottle.
"More than �371m of Scotch whisky was sold to the US last year, accounting
for more than 100 million bottles"
http://www.sundayherald.com/news/heraldnews/display.var.2524583.0.who_owns_our_whisky.php
>What do they want? The guys half dead already? <snipped vulgarity>
>**Stupid new zealand immigrant!**
Could you please watch your mouth. Children read this ng.
Don't show yourself up more than you already have. I've always
believed that when vile language is resorted to the user has already
lost.
Deleted uk.politics.misc
If you can't take the heat get outta the kitchen...will do so though.
Hardy
>shaun.jam...@ntlwolrd.com (Shaun) wrote:
>:
>:Boycotting a country's goods without the permission of the US
>:government is illegal in the US.
>:
>
>Cite? I don't think I need the permission of the US government to
>decide what I will and won't buy based on any basis I care to use.
>
>:>
>:>The Scottish tourism agency VisitScotland confirmed it had received e-mails
>:>from Americans saying they no longer wanted to holiday in Scotland in the
>:>aftermath of Kenny MacAskill's decision to free Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed
>:>al-Megrahi."
>:>
>:
>:Although to be fair most of them would have been put off when they
>:realised they needed a passport.
>:
>
>Oh, don't be silly. Can there possibly be anyone in the United States
>who could afford to travel abroad who doesn't already know they need a
>passport?
>
>I doubt it. They've made a big deal out of making sure everyone knows
>this before they cross over into Canada or Mexico and then can't come
>home.
Bad news for England. Most Yanks seem to think Scotland is somewhere
in England.
At least Scotland didn't give Megrahi a medal. That was the punishment
meted out by the US government to the crew of the Vincennes which blew
the airbus with 300 Iranian civilians aboard out of the sky.
>> "A FURIOUS anti-Scottish backlash over the decision to free the Lockerbie
>> bomber
> Bet you support the Moronican scum in their lame "boycott" too, don't you
> Stumpty, you treacherous loser ?
These sublimely ignorant retards should look to their own house first
The US government has supported, and still supports, some of the most
viscious and oppresive regimes and terrorist organisations in the world. \
It also hypocritically allowed it's people to openly raise funds for the IRA
to kill British people for decades.
Giving a Scotttish prisoner the same rights as everyone else gets under
Scottish law - regardless that he was so obviously framed - is our
perogative and is none of the USA's damn business.
Screw them. Let them stay home.
Ill-informed reactionary scum like these 'boycotters' are not welcome in
Scotland - or any other civilised country for that matter - anyway.
You're always telling me to get *into* the kitchen or back to my
knitting so make up your mind.
>will do so though.
Thank you. I'm sure I won't be the only one who apprecites it.
> "A FURIOUS anti-Scottish backlash over the decision to free the Lockerbie
> bomber erupted last night as Americans threatened to cancel trips across the
> Atlantic and were urged to stop doing business with Scotland.
>
> The Scottish tourism agency VisitScotland confirmed it had received e-mails
> from Americans saying they no longer wanted to holiday in Scotland"
Gosh, well then that certainly justifies the claim of an
"eruption of a furious anti-Scottish backlash".
Obviously he is referring to this.
"The men of the Vincennes were all awarded Combat Action Ribbons for
completion of their tours in a combat zone. Lustig, the air-warfare
coordinator, received the Navy Commendation Medal, often given for acts of
heroism or meritorious service, but a not-uncommon end-of-tour medal for a
second tour division officer. According to the History Channel, the medal
citation noted his ability to "quickly and precisely complete the firing
procedure."
>
> Oh, and by the by, when you're flying through a combat >zone
In Iranian airspace ? The US was at war with Iran ? Who knew.
>and a warship calls, it's best to answer up.
Especially when somone on that warship has an itchy trigger finger.
"According to the US government, the crew mistakenly identified the Iranian
Airbus A300 as an attacking F-14 Tomcat fighter."
.....and has troubles identifying a 300 seat airliner from a two seat
fighter.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655#Medals_awarded
cheers.....Jeff
>
> "Chris X" <Chris...@ahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:YZWdnaCagPDdUhLX...@giganews.com...
>
> > > "A FURIOUS anti-Scottish backlash over the decision to free the
> > > Lockerbie bomber
>
>
> > Bet you support the Moronican scum in their lame "boycott" too,
> > don't you Stumpty, you treacherous loser ?
>
>
> These sublimely ignorant retards should look to their own house first
> The US government has supported, and still supports, some of the most
> viscious and oppresive regimes and terrorist organisations in the
> world.
You are deluded
> It also hypocritically allowed it's people to openly raise
> funds for the IRA to kill British people for decades.
Actually they took quite a few steps to limit IRA activity
> Giving a
> Scotttish prisoner the same rights as everyone else gets under
> Scottish law
Indeed, the "compassionate" release is discretionary
But Libya's access to gass and oil sure helped.
Along with the Sith Lord Mandelson's willingness to deal
> regardless that he was so obviously framed
Bollocks, he was clearly involved, and showed no mercy to the many
hundreds of people he killed
Guess you support terrorists
- is our
> perogative and is none of the USA's damn business.
Not true, the UK can sell out justice for oil, but USA is free to make
counter measures, as it wishes.
> Screw them. Let them stay home.
> Ill-informed reactionary scum like these 'boycotters' are not welcome
> in Scotland - or any other civilised country for that matter - anyway.
You support for mass murdering terrorist scum is noted.
A hardy girl group hug for Hardy!
- nilita
Maybe they will stop calling Haggis - Haggis and call then Freedom
Puddings!! LOL!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.boycottscotland.com
I wish you weren't so shit-scared of answering simple questions.
LOL
Got any facts to back up your claim sublimely ignorant one?
You might want to check the history of USA (and often UK) support for these
charmers just for a start.
There are plenty more but I don't have time to waste on terminally blinkered
Big Lie swallowers.
Boa dhi\
Jorge Rafael Videla
Singham Rhee
Fuentes,
The Shah of Iran
Saddam Hussein (when convenient)
Chun Doo Hwan
Augusto Pinochet
Anastasio Somoza and his son Stroessner.
Hugo Banzer
Jonas Savimbi/
Mobutu
Ngo Dinh Diem
Park Chung Hee
The Moroccon monarchy
Noriega (at least to begin with)
Papa Doc and Baby Doc
Trujillo and his succesor Belaguer,
Batista (ultimately the reason Cuba is still taking the piss out of the US
50 years later)
Kamirov "The Boiler", (real cute guy that one)
The Saud family
Etc etc etc etc.
Hey! They've got nothing to do with us. It's the b*st*rd *nglish in the 'UK
morons' group crossposting.
Any morons in scs have been imported.
A very conservative American told me once, and it has stuck with me, "The US
has *allies*, not *friends*". There were many connotations to that IIRC,
but one of the implications is that friends are forever.
> "The men of the Vincennes were all awarded Combat Action Ribbons
Brain-dead will almost certainly be ignorant of the fact that the Frogs did
something similar - awarding medals to two terrorists who sank the Rainbow
Warrior, murdering one of the crew in the process.
"...No Kidding
On September 21, France finally admitted its responsibility for sinking the
Rainbow Warrior. The United Nations was called in to mediate a settlement
between France and New Zealand. Eventually the French government was forced
into an unconvincing apology and ordered to pay NZ$13 million to the New
Zealand government. Later still, Greenpeace received US$8 million from
France. This enabled us to build the replacement for the Rainbow Warrior,
the current Rainbow Warrior II.
On November 4, the trial of Captain Prieur and Major Mafart began.and ended.
The pair entered guilty pleas, thus avoiding a lengthy trial and the
possibility of more revelations to rock the French establishment. They were
sentenced to 10 years imprisonment.
In the months that followed, France exerted serious economic pressure on New
Zealand over dairy exports and a deal was struck allowing Prieur and Mafart
to serve their time in a French military prison. They served a little over
two years of their sentences before being freed and returned to Paris, where
they were honored with military medals and resumed their careers...."
I don't recall ignorant US rightards cancelling weekends in Paris over that
one.
>Paul C <pa...@thersgb.net> wrote:
>
>:On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 13:14:22 -0700 (PDT), HardySpicer
>:
>
>What a silly remark!
>
>Oh, and by the by, when you're flying through a combat zone and a
>warship calls, it's best to answer up.
Quite why anyone would take seriously the nation which harboured
bankrolled the terrorist IRA when it lectures Scotland about what it
should do with terrorists is beyond me.
Quite why anyone should take seriously a nation which tortures
prisoners and doesn't even put them on trial is equally beyond me.
Maybe you should get your own house in order before interfering in the
justice system of other countries.
Pity, because the less Americans we have crossing the Atlantic, the
better.
I'm sure the Scots can boycott MacD, Burger King, Subway, Starbucks
and all the other crap retail outlets selling identikit shit produced
partly so holidaying brain-dead Yanks dont have to sample the local
(deep fried, in this case) cuisine.
If I can manage without ever sampling any of the above mentioned
products, nor any of the watered down piss water that is Budweiser
then I am sure the men in dresses will get used to it.
Poor baby. Will you stamp and scream if I don't answer your dull-witted
questions?
Now here's a high curveball hanging over the plate.......
Other than the fact that there is no "boycott"?
The same could be said for Britain. How many different nations has
Britain been allied to over the last 200 years? How many of those has
Britian fought at one time or another?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.boycottscotland.com
I'm quite happy watching you parade yourself as the Moronican Zionazi shill
that you are, thank you.
Applauding Good Point #1...,
The Phantom Piper
...And Good Point #2!,
The Phantom Piper
Jesus man that's a list and a half. Didn't know they were that bad
(well I did but we Scots don't like to rub it in)
Hardy
Looks like you have found a Bum Chum old piper...
Hardy
dG
Most/all of the above are old history, and were in the context of
fighting the cold war. In case you were unaware, Stalin purged over 13
million of his own citizens, gives you an idea of what USA was up
against.
> It also hypocritically allowed it's people to openly raise
> funds for the IRA to kill British people for decades.
Actually they took quite a few steps to limit IRA activity
> Giving a
> Scotttish prisoner the same rights as everyone else gets under
> Scottish law
Indeed, the "compassionate" release is discretionary
But Libya's access to gass and oil sure helped.
Along with the Sith Lord Mandelson's willingness to deal
> regardless that he was so obviously framed
Bollocks, he was clearly involved, and showed no mercy to the many
hundreds of people he killed
Guess you support terrorists
- is our
> perogative and is none of the USA's damn business.
Not true, the UK can sell out justice for oil, but USA is free to make
counter measures, as it wishes.
> Screw them. Let them stay home.
> Ill-informed reactionary scum like these 'boycotters' are not welcome
> in Scotland - or any other civilised country for that matter - anyway.
You support for mass murdering terrorist scum is noted.
> DVH wrote:
> > http://www.boycottscotland.com
> >
> > What's at stake? Exports of around �2.7 billion, according to
> > latest figures
> > (http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Topics/Statistics/Browse/Economy/Exports
> > /SGCS2006tables).
> >
> > That's compared to exports of 850 million to the whole of Africa,
> > of which Libya is likely to be a trivial proportion.
> >
> > The US is Scotland's most important export market if you disregard
> > the rest of the UK. Americans buy 100 million bottles of whisky
> > for $370 million every year.
> >
> > American visitors to Scotland spent �257 million in 2007, making
> > them the commonest and highest spending tourists.
> >
> > 3,000 small businesses export from Scotland.
> >
> > "A FURIOUS anti-Scottish backlash over the decision to free the
> > Lockerbie bomber erupted last night as Americans threatened to
> > cancel trips across the Atlantic and were urged to stop doing
> > business with Scotland.
> >
> > The Scottish tourism agency VisitScotland confirmed it had received
> > e-mails from Americans saying they no longer wanted to holiday in
> > Scotland in the aftermath of Kenny MacAskill's decision to free
> > Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi."
> >
> >
> > http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/scotland/39Boycott-Scotland39-bid-to
> > -brand.5578581.jp
>
> Is it the case that the Scots are more compassionate in general than
> people in the US and the remainder of the UK?
The evidence suggests that the Scots simply like terrorists and mass
murderers more than other nations
> Do they also differ
> over torture and imprisonment without trial?
Indeed, they prefer to see ordinary members of the public blown away by
a cowardly bomb on a plane.
Strange how Scotts pipe up for rights of mass murdering terrorists but
are silent when it comes to the rights of the murdered victums of
terrorists
> Where is the antidote for the poison of lies and distrust?
I do not know, but stop supporting terrorists would be a step.
>
> "aaa" <x...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:Fl2km.299492$Sn5.2...@newsfe26.ams2...
> > Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
> >
> > >
> >>"Chris X" <Chris...@ahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > news:YZWdnaCagPDdUhLX...@giganews.com...
> > >
> >>> > "A FURIOUS anti-Scottish backlash over the decision to free the
> >>> > Lockerbie bomber
> > >
> > >
> >>> Bet you support the Moronican scum in their lame "boycott" too,
> >>> don't you Stumpty, you treacherous loser ?
> > >
> > >
> > > These sublimely ignorant retards should look to their own house
> > > first The US government has supported, and still supports, some
> > > of the most viscious and oppresive regimes and terrorist
> > > organisations in the world.
> >
> > You are deluded
>
> LOL
>
> Got any facts to back up your claim sublimely ignorant one?
Boycott Scotland and the United Kingdom
Don't Free Abdel Baset al-Megrahi!
''It is very hard to get at the truth, and yet [leading Labour Party
peer]
Lord Mandelson is seen with the Libyan President's son. It is very clear
that the British Government are in this up to their neck. I view all
this noise
as party politics in a rather crude way."
- Lord Owen, Former British Foreign Secretary
Source: US ire grows as Lockerbie bomber gets hero's welcome
The government of Scotland has decided to release convicted Lockerbie
terrorist bomber Abdel Baset al-Megrahi on "compassionate grounds."
The government of the United Kingdom has washed its hands of the entire
affair, allowing the Scottish government total freedom in taking this
perfidious action against the families of the victims of Pan Am Flight
103.
The actions of the Scottish government are inexcusable. A man who is
responsible for the mass murder of 270 innocent civilians must be held
accountable for such a cold blooded and ruthless act. Freeing a
terrorist in order to further ties with the tyrannical Libyan regime of
Muammar al-Gaddafi and to further the commercial interests of British
Petroleum in that region is repulsive and sickening.
Unless the Scottish government rescinds this decision to release
al-Megrahi, and if the British Parliament continues to avoid
intervening in the matter, we urge all Americans to protest this action
by boycotting the United Kingdom and Scotland in full. Don't travel to
Scotland or do business there (or in the United Kingdom in general) and
don't buy any British or Scottish products.
Most especially after the horrific events of 9/11, the world needs to
be reminded that terrorism must be punished and never rewarded.
Terrorists must never be shown compassion or mercy, for these people
have no respect for human life. The British, who ironically have
themselves been victim to numerous acts of terrorism on their own soil,
seem to have forgotten. They need a reminder, and protesting by
boycotting travel and business with Scotland and the United Kingdom is
the best way of doing so.
"To my friends in Scotland; the Scottish National Party, and Scottish
Prime Minister, and the Foreign Secretary, I praise their courage for
having proved their independence in decision making, despite the
unacceptable and unreasonable pressures they faced. Nevertheless, they
took this courageously right and humanitarian decision ... my friend
Brown, the Prime Minister of Britain, his government, the Queen of
Britain, Elizabeth, and Prince Andrew, who all contributed to
encouraging the Scottish government to take this historic and
courageous decision, despite the obstacles."
- Muammar al-Gaddafi, Dictator of Libya
Source: Libya's Gadhafi welcomes home Lockerbie bomber
UPDATE: The government of Scotland has officially freed the terrorist
al-Megrahi to return to Libya, according to the latest AP news report.
Americans need to respond to this outrageous miscarriage of justice and
betrayal of the victims' families, who were mostly fellow Americans, by
refusing to spend their tourist dollars in Scotland and avoiding any
kind of business there. Boycotting is the only way to send a clear and
direct message to both the Scottish and British governments that
Americans will not tolerate such a flagrant betrayal.
No words can ever express the sorrow that those of us who lost loved
ones in that terrible tragedy at this moment in time. To show your
solidarity with the families of the victims, please spread the word to
your family and friends and remind them to never forget what the
Scottish government has done and to take this into account whenever
they consider a trip to the British Isles.
Here in the United States, boycott all BP gas stations, since the money
you spend there ends up in the pockets of those in the United Kingdom
responsible for this travesty.
Mr. MacAskill, the so-called "Justice" Secretary of Scotland, you
should be ashamed of yourself. You know nothing of justice, nor will we
ever forgive your heinous action, and it is our sincere hope that the
people of Scotland will strongly voice their opposition to what you
have done. You have shown to the international community that your
government and the United Kingdom as a whole will stop at nothing to
pursue the neverending and relentless acquisition of oil revenues.
When will it ever end?
"On the occasion of this historic event, I would like to express my
sincere gratitude to the Government of Scotland for taking this
courageous decision ... I would also like to personally thank our
friends in the British government who played an important role in
reaching this day, and I can assure them that the Libyan people will
never forget the courageous stand of the British and Scottish
governments. I can also assure them that the friendship between our
people will continue to be strengthened and that this past chapter is
now firmly behind us."
- Saif al-Islam al-Gaddafi, son of Muammar al-Gaddafi
Source: Statement by Saif al-Islam Gaddafi on the release of Abdel
Basset al-Megrahi
NOTE: While most emails have thus far been very supportive, whether
they be from Americans, British citizens, and many others, there have
been a few British and Scottish individuals who have sent threatening
and extremely defamatory messages towards American relatives and
friends of the Lockerbie victims.
Lest there be any doubt, this boycott is not aimed against the people
of Scotland or the United Kingdom, but against the governments of
Scotland and Britain. The unfortunate reality is that initiating
boycotts against the tourism, banking, and oil industries of a
particular country are necessary in order to force that government to
listen and understand and admit their error.
The influence of British Petroleum in this entire charade has been well
known and discussed quite often, most especially in the United Kingdom.
But thus far the British and Scottish legislatures have refused to take
any action or admit that such commercial interests have taken
precedence, rather than such dubious claims of "compassion."
To those brave souls in Scotland and the rest of the United Kingdom who
stand against the corruption of their politicians and are willing to
stand with us in protecting the memories and legacy of the victims of
Pan Am Flight 103, your support is graciously appreciated.
VOICE YOUR OPPOSITION
Mr. MacAskill may be emailed at
kenny.mac...@scottish.parliament.uk
Mr. Alex Salmond, Leader of the Scottish National Party, has also
snubbed the families of the victims of Pan Am Flight 103 and dismissed
our concerns. He may be emailed at
Alex.Sal...@scottish.parliament.uk
Prime Minister Gordon Brown has thus far remained silent regarding the
matter, nor has he condemned the Scottish government for its
reprehensible actions. Why should he, considering that his own
government is complicit with the Scottish National Party in this sordid
travesty?
The Office of the Prime Minister may be emailed via the following web
form. According to their site, however, postal mail is preferable to
email.
Oppose any attempt by American industries, particularly the oil
companies, to take advantage of the Lockerbie scandal by writing to
President Obama and making clear that any trade relations between Libya
and the United States is an insult to the victims of Pan Am Flight 103.
In 2006 the Bush Administration removed Libya from the list of state
sponsors of terror and we do not expect that this will ever be reversed
by the current administration. However, the Obama Administration must
take a stand and condemn any attempt by American corporations to take
advantage of the current situation to justify business with a brutal
regime on the grounds that the British are doing the same.
Write to your representatives in Congress and let them know that you
will not tolerate any trade relations between the United States and
Libya and encourage them to voice stronger condemnation of the Scottish
release of al-Megrahi.
American oil conglomerates and big business interests have long awaited
a window of opportunity to exploit and the governments of Scotland and
the United Kingdom have provided them with one. As tax-paying American
citizens, we have the power to make sure that doesn't happen. If your
current representatives are not willing to take a stand against trade
with Libya, vote them out of office during the next election.
The memories of the victims of Pan Am Flight 103 will not and must not
ever be desecrated in the name of corporate greed and international
"diplomacy." The recent outrage and backlash against the actions of the
Scottish and British governments should serve as a constant and
uncompromising reminder to American politicians and corporations to not
make the same mistake.
"Above all, I believe that the public are entitled to know what you
think of the decision to release Megrahi, and whether you consider it
was right or wrong ... The fact that the decision to release was taken
by the Scottish Justice Secretary does not preclude you, as the Prime
Minister of the United Kingdom, from now expressing your opinion on a
subject that is of great public concern, and which affects Britain's
international reputation and our relations with our allies."
- David Cameron, Leader of the British Conservative Party
Source: Lockerbie bomber's welcome home puts Brown under pressure
EXTERNAL LINKS
The Official Website of the Victims of Pan Am Flight 103
National September 11 Memorial & Museum
Statement by the White House on the release of Abdel Basset Mohamed
al-Megrahi
Letter from FBI Director Robert S. Mueller, III, to Scottish Minister
Kenny MacAskill
ONLINE PETITIONS
Boycott Scotland for releasing Megrahi, Lockerbie Bomber
Scottish petition to reject the decision to release Al-Megrahi
HISTORY OF BRITISH PETROLEUM
The Anglo-Persian Oil Company
The British-instigated overthrow of democracy in Iran in 1953
LISTS OF COMPANIES IN SCOTLAND TO BOYCOTT
We have been receiving many emails asking about companies doing
business in Scotland to boycott. A number of people have suggested
expanding the Wikipedia list of companies doing business in Scotland.
There are web directories of British businesses and companies in
Scotland. Visit the official Made in Scotland website for a
comprehensive list.
According to the Scotsman, "Americans are the biggest contributors to
Scotland's ?980 million overseas tourism market, accounting for 14 per
cent of foreign visitors." Already the negative effect upon the
Scottish tourist industry is being sharply felt, no matter how hard the
Scottish Tourist Board tries to spin the facts.
The best way to boycott the Scottish decision is to simply not travel
to Scotland. Ireland has been advocated by many as the best alternative
to those who regularly travel to and conduct business in Scotland. Many
have advocated avoiding Scotch whisky and opting for American,
Canadian, or Irish whiskies.
From the very beginning we have advocated the boycott of British
Petroleum and other major British companies that have been lobbying for
closer trade relations with Libya. As the news continues to unfold,
more and more evidence is mounting regarding BP's role in this affair,
as well as that of other major British industries seeking a foothold in
the increasingly lucrative Libyan market. It has now become clear that
the release of al-Megrahi was a concession made towards this end.
BRITISH NEWSPAPERS THAT YOU CAN CONTACT
If you wish to write to the editors of major British newspapers voicing
your support for the campaign, here are the following links.
THE HERALD: let...@theherald.co.uk
ABERDEEN PRESS & JOURNAL: pj.e...@ajl.co.uk
THE TIMES: let...@thetimes.co.uk
DAILY TELEGRAPH: dtle...@telegraph.co.uk
SUNDAY TELEGRAPH: stle...@telegraph.co.uk
DAILY MAIL: edit...@dailymailonline.co.uk
DAILY EXPRESS: macer...@express.co.uk
SCOTLAND ON SUNDAY: Contact Form
SUNDAY HERALD: Contact Form
NEWS ARTICLES AND COMMENTARY
TELEGRAPH: The Lockerbie Bomber Scandal - Cameron should demand an
independent inquiry
UPI: Tories seek Brown's role in release
SCOTSMAN: MacAskill was wrong
AP: FBI director outraged by Lockerbie bomber release
GUARDIAN (UK): British firms hope Lockerbie release will boost business
ties with Libya
BBC: The release of the Lockerbie bomber was tied to trade deals
between Libya and the UK
THE INDEPENDENT (UK): Prospect of lucrative trade deals fuels anger at
Megrahi's release
TELEGRAPH (UK): Lockerbie bomber's release linked to trade deal, claims
Gaddafi's son
TELEGRAPH (UK): Lockerbie bomber: an ill-conceived gesture
AP: White House: Bomber's homecoming 'disgusting'
TELEGRAPH (UK): Barack Obama's fury as Lockerbie bomber flies home a
hero
NY POST: No mercy for murderer: Pan Am 103 Lockerbie bomber must finish
sentence, cancer or no
NY TIMES: Scotland Appears Poised to Return Pan Am Bomber
CHRISTIAN SCIENCE MONITOR: Hillary Clinton urges Scotland to keep
Lockerbie bomber
Find more related news articles through Google News
ARTICLES ABOUT THE CAMPAIGN
Slate MSN: "Boycott Scotland" 42nd top Google search for August 21, 2009
Scotsman: 'Boycott Scotland' bid to brand nation a global pariah
The Herald: Families brand release 'sickening' and call for boycott of
Scotland
Yahoo Buzz: Boycott Scotland Movement Stirs the Web
Daily Record: Megrahi welcome scenes in Libya prompt furious calls to
launch Scotland boycott
Daily Express: Scotland Faces Lockerbie Backlash
Financial Advice UK: Gordon Brown risks US wrath and future business
Guardian: Gordon Brown in new storm over freed Lockerbie bomber
Wall Street Journal: Lockerbie Fallout Puts Scotland on the Spot
Daily Kos: Boycott Scotland? Go F**k Yourself
Comment: A typically crude response from the allegedly "progressive
alternative" media. They have compassion for terrorists, but not for
the victims of Lockerbie. Daily Kos should be ashamed of themselves.
The author also mistakenly attributes the Boycott Scotland campaign to
FBI Director Mueller's letter. This is incorrect. The campaign started
here at this website just prior to the release of al-Megrahi.
The Herald Scotland: Obama warning to Libya over Megrahi jubilation
Telegraph: Barack Obama leads condemnation of Scotland for freeing
Lockerbie bomber
LETTERS OF SUPPORT
(Why are there no letters of condemnation or criticism?)
A QUESTION TO CONSIDER FOR THOSE WHO CALL FOR COMPASSION
Is there any ultimate difference between a terrorist and serial killer?
NO.
In the end, both kill for the sake of killing, murdering innocents for
whatever sickness or insanity that drives them.
No civilized society would dare show compassion to serial killers.
Why should terrorists be shown any compassion or mercy?
To those who wish to bring Christianity into this, to use religion as
an excuse for the contemptible behavior and actions of the Scottish and
British governments, perhaps you are forgetting something about our
great country that makes it inherently different from your form of
government, where you do not have separation of Church and State.
America is a secular nation.
If the US ran a boycott of Scotland, or Britain as whole (and I suspect most
Americans are savvie enough to see through bullshit) because of the politics
of a politician releasing someone to go and die at home - then maybe we
could think "who the hell needs friends like that anyway"? Maybe then we
could bring our lads home from Afghanistan and stop them getting killed in a
war which was basically entered in support of the US. It seems to me that
no-one has anything to gain out of jingoistic posturing against friendly
countries.
Allan
Jingoistic posturing is bad enough but coming from someone who doesn't know
the difference between a Scot and a Scott takes the biscuit.
Allan
Goldfix is based at London.
BIS is owned by the "City".
The Federal Reserve control
packet of shares is owned
by Baron Rothschild king of
the "City" - plain English - The
Worlds Reserve currency
belongs to and is being printed
by a London jew.
Umm, what were you saying about
bullshit in the media? - "Friendly Country"!
"Jingoismm"!
The correct terminology should be:
Criticising the Overlord upon his bidding.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.boycottscotland.com
But who are the terrorists?
j
Is there such a boycott? Have you proof of it?
Good question. I'm Canadian. We tend to stay home and drink beer ... :)
- nil
> aaa wrote:
> > djornsk wrote:
> >
> > > DVH wrote:
> > > > http://www.boycottscotland.com
> > > >
> > > > What's at stake? Exports of around �2.7 billion, according to
> > > > latest figures
> > > > (http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Topics/Statistics/Browse/Economy/Exp
> > > > orts /SGCS2006tables).
> > > >
> > > > That's compared to exports of 850 million to the whole of
> > > > Africa, of which Libya is likely to be a trivial proportion.
> > > >
> > > > The US is Scotland's most important export market if you
> > > > disregard the rest of the UK. Americans buy 100 million
> > > > bottles of whisky for $370 million every year.
> > > >
> > > > American visitors to Scotland spent �257 million in 2007, making
> > > > them the commonest and highest spending tourists.
> > > >
> > > > 3,000 small businesses export from Scotland.
> > > >
> > > > "A FURIOUS anti-Scottish backlash over the decision to free the
> > > > Lockerbie bomber erupted last night as Americans threatened to
> > > > cancel trips across the Atlantic and were urged to stop doing
> > > > business with Scotland.
> > > >
> > > > The Scottish tourism agency VisitScotland confirmed it had
> > > > received e-mails from Americans saying they no longer wanted
> > > > to holiday in Scotland in the aftermath of Kenny MacAskill's
> > > > decision to free Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/scotland/39Boycott-Scotland39-bi
> > > > d-to -brand.5578581.jp
> > > Is it the case that the Scots are more compassionate in general
> > > than people in the US and the remainder of the UK?
> >
> > The evidence suggests that the Scots simply like terrorists and mass
> > murderers more than other nations
> >
> >
> > > Do they also differ
> > > over torture and imprisonment without trial?
> >
> > Indeed, they prefer to see ordinary members of the public blown
> > away by a cowardly bomb on a plane.
> >
> > Strange how Scotts pipe up for rights of mass murdering terrorists
> > but are silent when it comes to the rights of the murdered victums
> > of terrorists
> >
> >
> > > Where is the antidote for the poison of lies and distrust?
> >
> > I do not know, but stop supporting terrorists would be a step.
>
> But who are the terrorists?
You are thick, Al-Megrahi is one, he was convicted of the bombing of
the flight Pan Am 103
But I suppose you do not regard blowing up commercial aircraft and
murdering 270 people as terrorism?
I really do not care about the "niceties" of terrorist mass murder
supporting Scottish culture.
Except that countries which support the cowardly mass murder of 270
people by bombing a commercial airliner are not friendly in my book
So if you want to sell out justice to terrorist fine, but do not
surprised when there are consequencies.
P.S. your support for the Taliban is noted.
Of course we do. So is the shooting down of an Iranian civilian Airbus with
the death of 66 children and 266 adults by a USA missile ship. That ship was
illegally in Iranian waters and that aircraft was within its own countries
airspace. BTW: Why did the USA decorate the entire command and crew for
doing so? The yanks do seem to have very short memories.
Bob.
>>> What's at stake? Exports of around �2.7 billion, according to latest
>>> figures
>>> (http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Topics/Statistics/Browse/Economy/Exports/SGCS2006tables).
>>> That's compared to exports of 850 million to the whole of Africa, of
>>> which Libya is likely to be a trivial proportion.
>>>
>>> The US is Scotland's most important export market if you disregard the
>>> rest of the UK. Americans buy 100 million bottles of whisky for $370
>>> million every year.
>>
>> Cheap!
>
> You're not kidding, that's about two and a half quid a bottle.
> I wish I could buy it for that...
I have some private stock I'd be happy to sell for that price (postage and
handling not included).
Now this has been aged six months or more.
If you can't take the heat get outta the kitchen...will do so though.
***
Good advice, Heid.
Hit the road then.............
> I don't recall ignorant US rightards cancelling weekends in Paris over
> that one.
Many have.
Who can afford Paris these days?
As I said, the hatred runs deep.
Those chickens will surely come home to roost one day.............
>
> Bad news for England. Most Yanks seem to think Scotland is somewhere
> in England.
So do most *nglish.
Paul has apparently forgotten the ever present "Scottish Cringe"
.
> Good question. I'm Canadian. We tend to stay home and drink beer ... :)
Except when you guys pour into Myrtle Beach and drink beer........
As I understand it the conviction is generally regarded as unsound,
there is considerable doubt that Al-Megrahni was responsible for the
bombing, there was a de facto denial of an appeal.
Certainly those responsible for the bombing should answer for it but it
would be good to get the right person/s.
j
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.boycottscotland.com
You initiated this thread, Divveh. How many more times do you want to me
made an idiot of today ?
Are you the real *Auld* Bob Peffers? If so, then it is good to know that
you are still with us - I'd heard otherwise!
> aaa wrote:
> > djornsk wrote:
> >
> > > aaa wrote:
> > > > djornsk wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > DVH wrote:
> > > > > > http://www.boycottscotland.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What's at stake? Exports of around �2.7 billion, according
> > > > > > to latest figures
> > > > > > (http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Topics/Statistics/Browse/Economy
> > > > > > /Exp orts /SGCS2006tables).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That's compared to exports of 850 million to the whole of
> > > > > > Africa, of which Libya is likely to be a trivial
> > > > > > proportion.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The US is Scotland's most important export market if you
> > > > > > disregard the rest of the UK. Americans buy 100 million
> > > > > > bottles of whisky for $370 million every year.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > American visitors to Scotland spent �257 million in 2007,
> > > > > > making them the commonest and highest spending tourists.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 3,000 small businesses export from Scotland.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "A FURIOUS anti-Scottish backlash over the decision to free
> > > > > > the Lockerbie bomber erupted last night as Americans
> > > > > > threatened to cancel trips across the Atlantic and were
> > > > > > urged to stop doing business with Scotland.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Scottish tourism agency VisitScotland confirmed it had
> > > > > > received e-mails from Americans saying they no longer
> > > > > > wanted to holiday in Scotland in the aftermath of Kenny
> > > > > > MacAskill's decision to free Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed
> > > > > > al-Megrahi."
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/scotland/39Boycott-Scotland3
> > > > > > 9-bi d-to -brand.5578581.jp
> > > > > Is it the case that the Scots are more compassionate in
> > > > > general than people in the US and the remainder of the UK?
> > > > The evidence suggests that the Scots simply like terrorists and
> > > > mass murderers more than other nations
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Do they also differ
> > > > > over torture and imprisonment without trial?
> > > > Indeed, they prefer to see ordinary members of the public blown
> > > > away by a cowardly bomb on a plane.
> > > >
> > > > Strange how Scotts pipe up for rights of mass murdering
> > > > terrorists but are silent when it comes to the rights of the
> > > > murdered victums of terrorists
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Where is the antidote for the poison of lies and distrust?
> > > > I do not know, but stop supporting terrorists would be a step.
> > > But who are the terrorists?
> >
> > You are thick, Al-Megrahi is one, he was convicted of the bombing of
> > the flight Pan Am 103
> > But I suppose you do not regard blowing up commercial aircraft and
> > murdering 270 people as terrorism?
>
> As I understand it the conviction is generally regarded as unsound,
> there is considerable doubt that Al-Megrahni was responsible for the
> bombing, there was a de facto denial of an appeal. Certainly those
> responsible for the bombing should answer for it but it would be good
> to get the right person/s.
Really?
I understood that the evidence was compelling and that even Al-Megrahi
did not account for his actions.