That Uche H. Ikwut-Ukwa is using Ms. Stoffels e-mail address does not
mean that Uche does not exist. Couldn't it have occured to you that Ms.
Stoffel could be married to Uche.
Expect my rebuttal of the issues you directed to me in your "as usual"
mail.
kasirim
>
> Netters:
>
> I was already retired to my abode, and they came and "pulled" me back.
>
> As would be expected, a friend forwarded the recent mails to me and in
> the traditional way I like to approach these kinds of things, I had
> already given myself and extra day to pick through the voluminous text
> from a so--called "Uche," before putting together some key pointers
> that would dismiss its various predated and chronological inaccuracies.
> I will for now reserve further comments until we know whether there is
> really an "Uche H. Ikwut-Ukwa" or rather Professor Shelley Stoffels.
> Then we can perhaps see who is on the right side of history.
>
> As fate would have it and with the incicive "intelligence" network
> done by a devoted friend and colleague soon after,(account name deleted)
> the "Uche H. Ikwut-Ukwa" that Kasirim has been fighting with, may in fact
> be a "fictitious" name, used to spread rancor among the ethnic ranks.
> Kasirim in his usual recklessness took the bait, and in that process made
> a rather "regretable" conjecture (not a statement) in reference to me. He
> has already expressed his "agonizing" about my use of the words "our nation"
> earlier, even though I had expressed an honest position on what I view as
> OUR COUNTRY'S torment. I did not know that his new role has now changed
> from an "organizer" to a benefactor whose job is now to determine who is
> truely Nigerian and who is not. Since you have started to "agonize" over
> other people's claim to their nationality, Kasirim are you really from
> "Rivers State" or somewhere? If you are, then you have a lot of making up
> to do to your own people before you start talking about Nigeria. You are
> doing the same thing again and you think people don't see: opportunistically
> playing both sides, and this attitude will always spell trouble in time.
>
> His unsubstantiated and false "half-analysis" about my views and to the
> extent that I don't think he really believes in what he is saying, shows
> that he reads too much into what he sees on the net. By his unsolicited
> comments, he may have done some fundamental damage to the regard I've had
> for him but to his obliviousness. Well, he should note that I will not
> engage in any issue about Nigeria for the sole purpose of "publicity" as
> he often does. I engage the issues that I see as important in redeeming
> Nigeria from itself. As for you, your "actions" and "beliefs" whatever
> they may be, always seem to be miles apart and cannot be fitted together
> in a consistently credible fashion to be trustworthy.
>
> Well, if Kasirim wishes to sell his conscience by mortaging his beliefs
> just for publicity stunt, let him dwell on that. Over the months, I and
> him have "respected" each others position on issues, and he has been
> prudent enough to define his boundaries as applicable. He is well
> cautioned to stick with that "unwritten rule," and to occupy himself more
> with his on-going pet project and others he may initiate in future. I
> had already given him some good advices on that project, he should try
> and heed it.
>
> My position in the "Case Against Nigeria" remains the same, and so is
> the abandoned property issue which makes reconciliation even more
> daunting. To couch any discourse on this particularr issue under the
> rubric of "justice" and "fairness" or even "eminent domain" is as
> revolting as the act itself. Let those who want to fantasize about it
> satisfy themselves. If and when Professor Shelley Stoffels (masquerading
> as "Uche H. Ikwut-Ukwa") decides to even up on all the key issues raised
> in that piece instead of this calculated amnesia, I will then out of
> professorial courtesy take her down memory lane on the issue she is so
> "conversant" about. My response is ready and waiting without any
> "pandering" of words. If Prof. Stoffels is bold enough to acknowledge
> "herself," it will be released. Farewell.
>
> Kalu.
>
> ********************Forwarded**********************
> >Subj: Re: ABANDONED PROPERTIES, THE LAST OUNCE OF FLESH, ETC.
> >Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 19:47:28 -0400 (EDT)
> >Message-Id: <199604142347.TAA20261@........edu>
> >Subject: Re: ABANDONED PROPERTIES, THE LAST OUNCE OF FLESH, ETC.
>
> >Ndigbo:
>
> >Please note that Uche H. Ikwut-Ukwa, the supposed author of the article
> >on abandoned properties is a FICTITIOUS name. The real author, or at least
> >the person from whose account the email originated, is Prof Shelley Stoffels.
> >Stoffels is a white, female asst professor of civil engineering at Penn State
> >University. I am completely baffled as to her motives and why she writes
> >under the pseudo-name 'Uche H. Ikwut-Ukwa'. Evidently, the article was
> >contrived to elicit maximum controversy. The following is the result of
> >a "finger" of address stof...@psu.edu from which the email originated:
>
> >csh> finger stoffelsW@@psu.edu
> [psu.edu]
> ----------------------------------------
> > name: Stoffels, Shelley Marie
> > campus: University Park
> > phone: +1 814 865 3183
> > address: 0224A SACKETT BUILDING
> > : UNIVERSITY PARK, PA 16802
> > nickname: uhi
> > department: CIVIL ENGR
> > admin_area: College of Engineering
> > title: ASST PROF
> > email to: stof...@psu.edu (sm...@email.psu.edu)
> ----------------------------------------
>
> >Note from the above that Stoffels' nickname is "UHI" which maps nicely into
> >"Uche H. Ikwut-Ukwa". You can check out her web page at:
>
> >http://www.cee.psu.edu/faculty/cee.mater.stoffels.html
>
> >I've written to her expressing curiousity as to her interest in the
> >abandoned property issue, why she writes under the pseudo-name Uche
> >and what she aims to achieve by sending the article under reference
> >to various Nigerian networks. Feedback will be provided if and when
> >she responds.
>
> >Thanks.
>
> >O.
>
No pun intended and with regards,
Abiodun Ojo.
Sam
I do know Uche and he is a real human being. He does exist. He is one =
of us and he knows it and I know it and you don't know it and you don't =
want to find out.
Uche H. Ikwut-Ukwa are his real names - o. Ndigbo should know that =
you, nwa-Igbo, you have lied to them. There is no pseudonamism in =
Uche's activities. Zik would say "Omenalaism" if he reads your blatant =
lies about your claim of Uche's nonexistence. Omenalaism here just =
means you made a statement, as some Ndigbo would, without foundation.
If I use your address to mail a letter, in Kalu's philosophy, that =
immediately qualifies me as a nonexistent human being. Don't do such a =
careless thing next time, Kalu. Kalu, is the owner of the address being =
white an abnormal thing or is it unNigerian. Please wake up Kalu, =
nwa-Igbo.
Ewuuk Lomo-David
----------
From: KAL...@HAL.LAMAR.EDU[SMTP:KAL...@HAL.LAMAR.EDU]
Sent: Monday, April 15, 1996 9:32 AM
To: naij...@mitvma.mit.edu; igbo...@mcfeeley.utexas.edu; =
Riv...@pixel.oac.siue.edu; stak...@sfu.ca; do...@cornell.edu
Subject: "Uche H. Ikwut-Ukwa": Not Yet
Netters:
I was already retired to my abode, and they came and "pulled" me back.
As would be expected, a friend forwarded the recent mails to me and in
the traditional way I like to approach these kinds of things, I had
already given myself and extra day to pick through the voluminous text=20
from a so--called "Uche," before putting together some key pointers=20
that would dismiss its various predated and chronological inaccuracies.=20
I will for now reserve further comments until we know whether there is=20
really an "Uche H. Ikwut-Ukwa" or rather Professor Shelley Stoffels.=20
Then we can perhaps see who is on the right side of history.=20
As fate would have it and with the incicive "intelligence" network
done by a devoted friend and colleague soon after,(account name deleted) =
the "Uche H. Ikwut-Ukwa" that Kasirim has been fighting with, may in =
fact=20
be a "fictitious" name, used to spread rancor among the ethnic ranks.=20
Kasirim in his usual recklessness took the bait, and in that process =
made=20
a rather "regretable" conjecture (not a statement) in reference to me. =
He=20
has already expressed his "agonizing" about my use of the words "our =
nation"=20
earlier, even though I had expressed an honest position on what I view =
as=20
OUR COUNTRY'S torment. I did not know that his new role has now changed=20
from an "organizer" to a benefactor whose job is now to determine who is =
truely Nigerian and who is not. Since you have started to "agonize" over =
other people's claim to their nationality, Kasirim are you really from=20
"Rivers State" or somewhere? If you are, then you have a lot of making =
up=20
to do to your own people before you start talking about Nigeria. You are =
doing the same thing again and you think people don't see: =
opportunistically=20
playing both sides, and this attitude will always spell trouble in time. =
His unsubstantiated and false "half-analysis" about my views and to the=20
extent that I don't think he really believes in what he is saying, shows =
that he reads too much into what he sees on the net. By his unsolicited=20
comments, he may have done some fundamental damage to the regard I've =
had=20
for him but to his obliviousness. Well, he should note that I will not=20
engage in any issue about Nigeria for the sole purpose of "publicity" as =
he often does. I engage the issues that I see as important in redeeming=20
Nigeria from itself. As for you, your "actions" and "beliefs" whatever=20
they may be, always seem to be miles apart and cannot be fitted together =
in a consistently credible fashion to be trustworthy.=20
Well, if Kasirim wishes to sell his conscience by mortaging his beliefs=20
just for publicity stunt, let him dwell on that. Over the months, I and=20
him have "respected" each others position on issues, and he has been=20
prudent enough to define his boundaries as applicable. He is well=20
cautioned to stick with that "unwritten rule," and to occupy himself =
more=20
with his on-going pet project and others he may initiate in future. I=20
had already given him some good advices on that project, he should try=20
and heed it.
My position in the "Case Against Nigeria" remains the same, and so is=20
the abandoned property issue which makes reconciliation even more=20
daunting. To couch any discourse on this particularr issue under the=20
rubric of "justice" and "fairness" or even "eminent domain" is as=20
revolting as the act itself. Let those who want to fantasize about it=20
satisfy themselves. If and when Professor Shelley Stoffels (masquerading =
as "Uche H. Ikwut-Ukwa") decides to even up on all the key issues raised =
in that piece instead of this calculated amnesia, I will then out of=20
professorial courtesy take her down memory lane on the issue she is so=20
"conversant" about. My response is ready and waiting without any=20
"pandering" of words. If Prof. Stoffels is bold enough to acknowledge=20
"herself," it will be released. Farewell.
Kalu.
********************Forwarded**********************
>Subj: Re: ABANDONED PROPERTIES, THE LAST OUNCE OF FLESH, ETC.
>Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 19:47:28 -0400 (EDT)
>Message-Id: <199604142347.TAA20261@........edu>
>Subject: Re: ABANDONED PROPERTIES, THE LAST OUNCE OF FLESH, ETC.
>Ndigbo:
>Please note that Uche H. Ikwut-Ukwa, the supposed author of the article
>on abandoned properties is a FICTITIOUS name. The real author, or at =
least
>the person from whose account the email originated, is Prof Shelley =
Stoffels.
>Stoffels is a white, female asst professor of civil engineering at Penn =
State
>University. I am completely baffled as to her motives and why she =
writes
>under the pseudo-name 'Uche H. Ikwut-Ukwa'. Evidently, the article was
>contrived to elicit maximum controversy. The following is the result of
>a "finger" of address stof...@psu.edu from which the email originated:
>csh> finger stoffelsW@@psu.edu
[psu.edu]=20
----------------------------------------
> name: Stoffels, Shelley Marie
> campus: University Park
> phone: +1 814 865 3183
> address: 0224A SACKETT BUILDING
> : UNIVERSITY PARK, PA 16802
> nickname: uhi
> department: CIVIL ENGR
> admin_area: College of Engineering
> title: ASST PROF
> email to: stof...@psu.edu (sm...@email.psu.edu)
----------------------------------------
>Note from the above that Stoffels' nickname is "UHI" which maps nicely =
into
>"Uche H. Ikwut-Ukwa". You can check out her web page at:
>http://www.cee.psu.edu/faculty/cee.mater.stoffels.html
>I've written to her expressing curiousity as to her interest in the=20
I read Prof. Kalu Kalu's mail (reproduced below) in which some references
were made to me with quiet amusement. Dimwitted, slow witted and
without the benefit of appending an academic affectation either before
or after my names, Kalu, riled by my interpretation of his endless
rantings on abandoned property and his numerous postings that have
generally not been sympathetic to Nigeria (the concept), could not
accord me the "professorial courtesy" of at least a focussed response
to my "conjecture" and agreeable language. No worry one day be one I
feet reasch deere oh!
Kalu's habit of appealing to tangential issues to defend his
unsustenable positions are now well known. Disagree with him, he will label
you anti-Igbo. Ask him why he posted anonymous mail to the net, he will
tell you it was designed to expose Mr X's anti-Igbo feelings and to
prevent him from roiling interethnic relations on the NET. If you are
from any of the non-Igbo speaking states of eastern Nigeria (I hate to
call them minorities), dare to disagree with him over his interpretations
of the events that led to the fall of Biafra and he will call you a
saboteur, the executioner of the Biafran dream. If you are from
the Igbo-speaking states, dare to subscribe to a pan-Nigerian effort
such as the Clemency Campaign and he will accuse you of disrespect to
the memory of the innocent thousands killed during the pogrom of 1966.
Hold a view that he believes is at variance with what people in your
state think and he will question if you are actually from that state!
My use of the expression "a passion for affection" to characterize his
endless rantings about Rivers State and abandoned property and writings
unsympathetic to the concept of Nigeria because I could not find a more
adequate way, without appearing impolite, of conveying the fact that I
no longer read him. I have no interest in reading a rehash of the ideas
of long dead 17th century european philosophers whose relevance to the
Nigerian predicament is very doubtful.
Kalu, I do not have any fences to mend with my "own people". Defense of
abandoned property has never been a test of fidelity to the Rivers
State. I am not aware that the peoples of the Rivers State have a group
mentality and that fidelity to group-defined positions is a litmus test
of ones' "Riversness". It will be instructive for you to recall that Uche
holds a view on Ken Saro-Wiwa and MOSOP, as conveyed in his mail to Jonah
Ibeike (Cornell), with which quite a number of persons from Rivers State
will find reason to disagree. Or have you forgotten the position of
some Nigerians of Rivers State extraction as expressed on naijanet on
The Rivers State Foundation's fact finding trip to Ogoni.
Endlessly harping on abandoned property, carelessly unearthing the
innocent victims of the pogroms when there is no need to - an
unconscionable exploitation of collective pain in service to one's
personal agenda, are perhaps the most opportunistic use I have seen of
these sad events in our country's history since 1983. Back then, a
governor facing defeat at the polls, a man who never owned a piece of
property in PH, a man known before the war in PH for the regularity with
which his car was pushed from the PH High Court grounds to his home around
Aggrey road, saw in "Abandoned Property" his key to another 4 years in
office. For a politician, that is understandable. But for a Professor
of political science, is it?
No. Uche and I were not fighting. At least I do not think so. Uche's
political history of PH was, in my view, incomplete. That was what I tried
to draw his attention to. In particular, he ignored the role the
adminstrative division of PH province, (in which PH Municipal Council did
not include the surrounding villages where the indigenous peoples lived)
played in handing the city over to migrants. The case of Ndigbo and PH is
not unlike Indians in Western Kenya, Uganda and South Africa.
My position on the unfortunate circumstance of abandoned property is clear.
It should not have happened. Given that it has, a fair and just
compensation must be made to the owners of the property so that we can
bring closure to the issue. Emotional references to the subject as Kalu
is wont to make only serve to make the issue more difficult to resolve.
As for your "regard" for me, while humbled by it, I will like you to know
that it is purely your business. Whether I am well regarded by you or not
is not something I wake up in the morning wondering about. There are no
rules, written or unwritten btw the two of us that I am aware of.
"Prudence" does not explain why I have not commented on your recent
postings. I did not read them.
On the NMAF, Kalu was kind enough to send to the C'tee, through me, some
suggestions on setting up a bank account. Those suggestions were duly
considered by the C'tee and found inadequate for the NMAF's needs.
Nonetheless, his gesture was deeply appreciated. It is regretable that
Kalu can be so dismissive of a project to which so many Nigerians
have committed themselves.
One of the sad consequences of war is loss of property. It is painful
for the loser. No one underestimates the pain of that loss. It is a
reality that must be duely confronted but a prisoner of which post war
relations must not be allowed to become. Several years after the Second
World Germany is still trying to recover thousands of art treasures taken
by the Russians. (The latest controversy is over the gold of Troy.)
Russia continues to refuse. This has not prevented the Russians and the
Germans from going ahead to forge good relations between then. Britain
still has a great many of our country's irreplaceable works of art. Don't
we still do business with her?
There is an overwhelming need for reconciliation and healing in eastern
Nigeria. The peoples of eastern Nigeria need it. Nature has put these
peoples together. Whether they like it or not, they will continue to
interact with each other. Aware of this, efforts have been initiated at
home in this direction. (Which is why I think a reasonable number of us
should travel home.) Statements such as often issue forth from Kalu's
pen are unlikely to be helpful to this (healing) process. They serve no
good.
Farewell.
kasirim.
> >
> > Netters:
> >
> > I was already retired to my abode, and they came and "pulled" me back.
> >
> > As would be expected, a friend forwarded the recent mails to me and in
> > the traditional way I like to approach these kinds of things, I had
> > already given myself and extra day to pick through the voluminous text
> > from a so--called "Uche," before putting together some key pointers
> > that would dismiss its various predated and chronological inaccuracies.
> > I will for now reserve further comments until we know whether there is
> > really an "Uche H. Ikwut-Ukwa" or rather Professor Shelley Stoffels.
> > Then we can perhaps see who is on the right side of history.
> >
> > As fate would have it and with the incicive "intelligence" network
> > done by a devoted friend and colleague soon after,(account name deleted)
> > the "Uche H. Ikwut-Ukwa" that Kasirim has been fighting with, may in fact
> > be a "fictitious" name, used to spread rancor among the ethnic ranks.
> > Kasirim in his usual recklessness took the bait, and in that process made
> > a rather "regretable" conjecture (not a statement) in reference to me. He
> > has already expressed his "agonizing" about my use of the words "our nation"
> > earlier, even though I had expressed an honest position on what I view as
> > OUR COUNTRY'S torment. I did not know that his new role has now changed
> > from an "organizer" to a benefactor whose job is now to determine who is
> > truely Nigerian and who is not. Since you have started to "agonize" over
> > other people's claim to their nationality, Kasirim are you really from
> > "Rivers State" or somewhere? If you are, then you have a lot of making up
> > to do to your own people before you start talking about Nigeria. You are
> > doing the same thing again and you think people don't see: opportunistically
> > playing both sides, and this attitude will always spell trouble in time.
> >
> > His unsubstantiated and false "half-analysis" about my views and to the
> > extent that I don't think he really believes in what he is saying, shows
> > that he reads too much into what he sees on the net. By his unsolicited
> > comments, he may have done some fundamental damage to the regard I've had
> > for him but to his obliviousness. Well, he should note that I will not
> > engage in any issue about Nigeria for the sole purpose of "publicity" as
> > he often does. I engage the issues that I see as important in redeeming
> > Nigeria from itself. As for you, your "actions" and "beliefs" whatever
> > they may be, always seem to be miles apart and cannot be fitted together
> > in a consistently credible fashion to be trustworthy.
> >
> > Well, if Kasirim wishes to sell his conscience by mortaging his beliefs
> > just for publicity stunt, let him dwell on that. Over the months, I and
> > him have "respected" each others position on issues, and he has been
> > prudent enough to define his boundaries as applicable. He is well
> > cautioned to stick with that "unwritten rule," and to occupy himself more
> > with his on-going pet project and others he may initiate in future. I
> > had already given him some good advices on that project, he should try
> > and heed it.
> >
> > My position in the "Case Against Nigeria" remains the same, and so is
> > the abandoned property issue which makes reconciliation even more
> > daunting. To couch any discourse on this particularr issue under the
> > rubric of "justice" and "fairness" or even "eminent domain" is as
> > revolting as the act itself. Let those who want to fantasize about it
> > satisfy themselves. If and when Professor Shelley Stoffels (masquerading
> > as "Uche H. Ikwut-Ukwa") decides to even up on all the key issues raised
> > in that piece instead of this calculated amnesia, I will then out of
> > professorial courtesy take her down memory lane on the issue she is so
> > "conversant" about. My response is ready and waiting without any
> > "pandering" of words. If Prof. Stoffels is bold enough to acknowledge
> > "herself," it will be released. Farewell.
> >
> > Kalu.
> >
> > ********************Forwarded**********************
> > >Subj: Re: ABANDONED PROPERTIES, THE LAST OUNCE OF FLESH, ETC.
> > >Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 19:47:28 -0400 (EDT)
> > >Message-Id: <199604142347.TAA20261@........edu>
> > >Subject: Re: ABANDONED PROPERTIES, THE LAST OUNCE OF FLESH, ETC.
> >
> > >Ndigbo:
> >
> > >Please note that Uche H. Ikwut-Ukwa, the supposed author of the article
> > >on abandoned properties is a FICTITIOUS name. The real author, or at least
> > >the person from whose account the email originated, is Prof Shelley
Stoffels.
> > >Stoffels is a white, female asst professor of civil engineering at Penn
State
> > >University. I am completely baffled as to her motives and why she writes
> > >under the pseudo-name 'Uche H. Ikwut-Ukwa'. Evidently, the article was
> > >contrived to elicit maximum controversy. The following is the result of
> > >a "finger" of address stof...@psu.edu from which the email originated:
> >
> > >csh> finger stoffelsW@@psu.edu
> > [psu.edu]
> > ----------------------------------------
> > > name: Stoffels, Shelley Marie
> > > campus: University Park
> > > phone: +1 814 865 3183
> > > address: 0224A SACKETT BUILDING
> > > : UNIVERSITY PARK, PA 16802
> > > nickname: uhi
> > > department: CIVIL ENGR
> > > admin_area: College of Engineering
> > > title: ASST PROF
> > > email to: stof...@psu.edu (sm...@email.psu.edu)
> > ----------------------------------------
> >
> > >Note from the above that Stoffels' nickname is "UHI" which maps nicely into
> > >"Uche H. Ikwut-Ukwa". You can check out her web page at:
> >
> > >http://www.cee.psu.edu/faculty/cee.mater.stoffels.html
> >
> > >I've written to her expressing curiousity as to her interest in the
With regards,
Patrick.
On Mon, 15 Apr 1996, Ayo Ojo wrote:
> As a pioneer masquerader dear Prof Kalu, you must try and take your
> fellow masquerade Uche seriously because, behind every mask, there is a
> "mischievious" learned Professor. I bet, this Uche is a very respectable
> Nigeria. Therefore, his write-up cannot and must not be dismissed on the
> basis of "he/she is a ghost". His "abandoned properties" thesis though
> unacceptable to me, must be seen and taken as coming from "another
> serious and respectable KANT PROFESSOR under the mask"!
>
> No pun intended and with regards,
> Abiodun Ojo.
>
> On Mon, 15 Apr 1996, Kalu Kalu wrote:
>
If you read your mail again, you will know you are just out for vendentta
rather than say anything useful or tangible. There was no time, I repeat
again and again,no time when I asked Kalu's posting of Ganiyu's old
articles to be dismissed!!!!!!!!!!!!You are just a plain LIAR and I
wonder if that is not what one of the Nwosu's has done to Nigeria re-1993
annulled election!!!!!! I disagreed with UAKAL@ghost on reposting other
people's old mails in a ghostly manner without providing the background
and or his name and that was all!!! Finally, we now know the ghost is
Prof Kalu whom we have finally "made up" with each other very recently
and privately!!!!
Please you are looking for my trouble but I am not interested in giving
you one because your mission is too crystal clear. May I advise you, if
you have nothing constructive to offer other than point accusing finger,
remember that at least 3 of those rotten fingers are pointing back at you.
I hate LIARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Abiodun Ojo.
Thanks for the noise. I have always known you from your
postings, as a rude, chameleon-like character who always
resorts to name calling whenever he is caught.
Use a little decency, polish your uncouth attitude a little
bit, and look for better ways to vent your frustration.
Nuff said,
Patrick.
Before I concur with your last statement at the end of your most unrude
signals(is that the opposite of noise?), check your "beautiful
polished languages" in all of your postings dating back to when you dropped
from the sky unto naijanet not too long ago.
Also look at the "glowing,nice and non-chamelion like" reply below (I am not
even Ijebu in any way!;do you know the Ijebu and ---- story? ask
around!) Afterwards,CONGRATULATE your intelligent self on a job well
done.
In addition,note the last comment that another naijanetter used to "commend"
you on your "critique" of Uche and Kalu's discussions.Then read this one
below again and give yourself another pat on the back.
You will now clearly see if you can think about it how IMMACULATELY clean
and perfect that you really are.Infact nothing is as perfect as yourself.
Now;
Enough said.
Could you guys plse change the subject heading since it no longer has
anything to do with Uche H. I? Just a suggestion.
Thanks.
okn
----------- end of reply --------
I'm glad my candid advise to you seems to be working.
Let's keep the discussion this way; less rude, less
uncouth, and less noisy.
Regards,