Today, 2011, Singapore is considered a First World society.  It is
able to attract first calibre scientists, doctors, and researchers
from America and Europe and Australia.
In fact, around 2006, the height of the Bush era, where STEM CELL
research was more or less prohibited, Singapore ---- having just
opened their national research headquaters focusing on stem cell and
related biochemical research --- lured away 6 top American scientists
who said the Bush policies (restricting funds as well as prohibitions
to stem cell research, particular Human Embryonic Stem Cell research)
made it next to impossible for them to do their basic research in the
field....
One of the Dolly the Sheep creator from Scottland/England also went to
Singapore, too.
These were top calibre scientists and they were given immediate tenure
as both researchers and faculties of their own choosing, with top
salaries, housing and all kinds of other benefits.
Anyway, both Singapore and Laos have a single-party ruling regimes.
Singapore's single-party ruling, however, CAME ABOUT mostly due to DE
FACTO forces.  The ruling party was able, and continues to be able
(even in this latest election, yesterday, May 6, 2011) to, convince
the people to vote for it.
Of course, in the old days, right after independence, there was NO
DOUBT it used strong man tactics, and armes had been more than
"twisted" in order for the ruling party to win and kept winning
elections.
But as the years went by and the policies put in place started to
generate fruits and the people could actually see, from year to year,
ON AVERAGE over many years, they're building the country, they were
being coerced less and less to vote for the ruling party.
From 1965 to the beginning of the 21st century, Singapore had clearly
transitioned from a poor, third world society into a bustling island-
state glimming with high rises.
Of course, there are still many poor citizens, too, and human rights
and liberal social policies and safety nets as known in the USA,
Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Western Europe are still LACKING in
Singapore; but the point is, when you PLOTTED the trajectory of
Singapore's advancement from the time of independence in 1965 to the
present, you SEE A CLEAR trajectory, where a country started from very
poor, third world-like background to a first world-like society.
All dominated by ONE PARTY.
Laos also is controlled by a one-party political system; but it is a
LEGAL one as opposed to it being a de facto, like the situation in
Singapore.
That is to say, while Laos made the Communist Party the ONLY PARTY
allowed, legally, in Laos... Singapore's ruling party used no more
than illegal tactics, strong man arm twisting, corruption and other
means to dominate.
And, yet, through illegal tactics, strong man arm twisting,
corruption, coersion, and other such dubious means, the Singapore
ruling party was able to build the small island, city-state.
Laos LEGAL one-party regime ---- which can NOT be legally said to be
corrupt, really, since it is LEGALLY the only allowed party...
whatever it does, it is in the right of way; it is correct; it is
legal ---- Laos one party regime manages, from the day of its
independence (from the West and the former Royal folks), to make sure
Laos stays as a backward, protracted, retracted, poor, impoverished,
isolated, autocratic THIRD WORLD society...
No doubt, both Singapore's ruling folks and Laos ruling folks are very
proud of their respective "achievements," with Singapore going from a
third world to a first world status and with Laos going from a third
world to being a third world status....
And, yes, believe it or not, some of us, however dumb, KNOW that Laos
and Singapore are NOT the same country!  They are two different
countries!, so what the one does, the other need not follow.  One can
go from third world to first world and the other staying in a third
world status... and we can say:  "They are both doing fabulously by
their people!"
If OTHER parties and crowds were to have ruled, perhaps Singapore
could have stayed put as a third world... and Laos could have FALLEN
into the very last 2 or 3 spots on being the world's poorest
country... but, thank the lord of some superstitions, Laos has the
COMMUNIST PARTY and it manages to stay as a third world!, and proud of
it, too... and Laos various international diplomates proudly boast,
year in, year out, in their various posts overseas.... where they live
like the affluent local crowds, going to plays, movies, parties, and
political gatherings freely, where people air their differences in
open venues, with great passion and emotions...
I am sure those diplomats, from Laos who are now seeing these
foreigners doing their poltical shenagingans, must be thinking:
"Thank the Lord Buddha, we don't have to deal with such travesties!
We have the most stable, loving, cohesive, and efficient POLITICAL
PARTY in the world.... the Communist Party... the only party the
Laotian people need!  No time wasted over useless debates on who is
more capable in this or that... It's all done, in Laos, by THE
PARTY... and everyone just applaud and smile at our one-party
democratic activties and great achievements.. IT is a country where
our people are free from having to deal with these criminal elements
who are always keen to disrupt the Party and its many great plans to
make sure Laos stay perpetuately where it is....as a true country
where its people retain its original cultural and traditional
authenticities... All thanks to THE PARTY...."
also lots of dumb asses are leading the country for the time being.
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>
> "Thank the Lord Buddha, we don't have to deal with such travesties!
> We have the most stable, loving, cohesive, and efficient POLITICAL
> PARTY in the world.... the Communist Party... the only party the
> Laotian people need!  No time wasted over useless debates on who is
> more capable in this or that... It's all done, in Laos, by THE
> PARTY... and everyone just applaud and smile at our one-party
> democratic activties and great achievements.. IT is a country where
> our people are free from having to deal with these criminal elements
> who are always keen to disrupt the Party and its many great plans to
> make sure Laos stay perpetuately where it is....as a true country
> where its people retain its original cultural and traditional
> authenticities... All thanks to THE PARTY...."
Rich country but unhappy citizen what is good for? suicidal = smart or
dumb?
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/242916/Highest-suicide-rates-are-in-happy-countries
Angry is opposite of happy my friend yes I'm freeloader but from my
pension
that I earned.
You are right I don't have stock market, I don't have competition, I
don't have stress,
all i have is one fishing boat and go fishing whenever I feel, I'm
happy who I'm my wife
my kids grand kids all love me, according to my religious life
deserved happy,
more things you have is less happy you are it said, yours probably
tough different way,
but any way good luck on your stock market, happy with your big money,
big house, big car etc.. oh by the way stay away from high-rise
building's window..
Laos does not have these two factors.
Another factor, Singapore is a tiny Island, easy to develop, all the
money and resources are put in just one place.
Thanks to one party (the People's Action Party- PAP) under Lee Kuan
Yew since 60s singapore is where it is today.
Although, with today's convenience, Singapore people have time to
think about other alternatives towards the more check and balance
government, during the recent election took place 7 may 2011, beside
PAP, 6 other political parties contested for 87 seats in the
parliament but PAP still won overwelmingly ( 81 seats for PAP and 6
seats fro worker party). This proved that Singapore people opted for
improvement by increasing critical voice, but not for change (which is
risky in term of well-being) . I happenned to be in Singapore during
the last week of election campaign and left the place afternoon of the
voting day, it has been benefitial to undertand and witness political
climate of this city state.
Multi-party politics does not quaranty country's success, although its
may looks smart. Look at India, Phillipines, Bangladesh, Indonesia,
Thailand and those latin american countries; a portion of the society
might be very prosperous but not the majority. Go and see for yourself
the slumps in Manila and other Philipines big cities. Most of the
Philippinos are pushed to sell their labour abroad (both high skill
and low skill) because at home their politicians are so corrupt and
greedy.
Are they better than those in Lao PDR? No.
Is what we have in Lao PDR good enough? No; therefore, improvement is
needed.
After all, sincerity, good education and hardwork that will enable
government to bring prosperity and well-being to the people.
Hamnoi
Corruption has been a great setback for LPDR...in the last 35 years...
It wouldn't change a thing wether is one party or multiparties run the
country if corruption is allowed from top to bottom like LPDR.
The government has to implement the laws  and enforce as a true
laws..not as a way to bribe and take advantage of the people.
Just take a look at Khamtay Siphandon....he acquired $860 millions
from International Development Funds for himself after he got out from
his cave dwelling.
Not just him but every High rank official is doing the same.
So, the selfishness of LPDR and patriotic of Singapore are making
their landmarks.
100% ແມ່ນແລ້ວ ຕອ້ງເກັບໃວ້ເປັນບົດທອ້ງຂື້ນໃຈ
>>>>a portion of the society might be very prosperous but not the majority <<<<
THIS SOCIAL IMBALANCE IS ENDEMIC TO SOUTH-EAST ASIA, SOUTH ASIA AND
MOST EMERGING NATIONS IN AFRICA AND SOUTH AMERICA. MULTI-PARTY
POLITICS MAY NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS BAD PHENOMENON.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS BETTER TO HAVE A COUNTRY WHERE PEOPLE
HAVE A REAL VOICE RATHER THAN LIP SERVICE.
NOW SINGAPORE IS REAL PHENOMENON IN ITSELF DUE TO FACTORS THAT YOU
HAVE STATED. AND THEN TAIWAN JUST POPS UP ON THE HORIZON. ONE IS A ONE-
PARTY ISLAND-NATION AND THE OTHER IS A MULTI-PARTY ISLAND-NATION. BOTH
ARE FULL OF CHINESE AND BOTH PROSPER TREMENDOUSLY. WHAT GIVES?
ANOTHER BIG FACTOR THAT HAS A HUGE IMPACT ON THE PROGRESS OF ANY
NATION IS PEACE. IF A COUNTRY IS AT PEACE AND NO WAR LIKE LAOS IS
ENJOYING RIGHT NOW, THEN THE COUNTRY IS BOUND TO PROGRESS AND BE
PROSPEROUS IF THE LEADERS ARE WELL INTENTIONED, FAR-SIGHTED AND SAVVY
IN TODAY'S BUSINESS. THERE'S HOPE THAT THE NEW CROP OF LAO PDR
APPARATUS IS MORE EDUCATED AND LESS CORRUPTED. THE CORRUPTION POINT IS
PROBABLY TOO MUCH FOR ASKING. OH WELL...
On May 11, 2:10 am, Hamnoi Thammada <nbao...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Only the last 35 years? None before that?  That's Fooking Amazing!!!
Nty,
Are you implying that there're no corruption and bribery existed
during RLG's rule? You gotta be kidding, right? As far as I know and I
might be wrong here, the curruption one form or another exists every
where on this planet; it does not matter where you live. There's no
such thing as the Utopian society. The human's GREED whether for the
money or power or even for self-satisfaction (like biasing info. to
the way they like) is the root of all evils and it's the reason why
people on this earth are fighting one another today.
SD
Heard any pop ? Great ! Congratulation, You just pull your heads out of 
issara's ass. If one of you succeeded. Please
try to help other, but before doing so please proceed to step 3.
3) Do no eat, drink, or smoke anything. Immediately shampoo your head 
thoroughly. I recommend to do it
at least twice. In the extreme case, shave it if possible. This complete 
the detox process.
Does the air smell better ? your surrounding look clearer, brighter ? 
That was because your heads stuck in the issara's
ass for too long. It effects your thinking. In American term. it's 
called thinking in deep shit.  Now back to the
topic. Did corruption exist during the non-communist era ? Yes, it did. 
Corruption existed since the birth of the
nation. It's part of human greed and it had less to do with regime. 
Which is more ? this is the question you must
ask, Mr issara's Dark Egg. Non-democratic government tends to corrupt 
more. It's left for your thought exercise
on why this is the case since your heads are now out of issara's ass (I 
assume). Your thinking should be clearer. While your
head was in the issara's ass, your argument is utterly stupid. If thing 
is not clear to you at this point I will send
my students to assist by grabbing your legs and yanking it out hard. Try 
it on your own first.
Sincerely,
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Also please read my reply to your long time friend, Mr DarkEgg. I left 
instructions for both of you. You might need to
help each other.
It's summer time so happy fishing !
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Hello my name is Phetyai parents and grand parents were Phuan
originally from Xiengkhuang Laos.
how about you sir why your name's symbol only
why not show your self and tell us who you are?
perhaps people like me and 6 mil Lao will
understand why stress, angry and ahead
of times are enjoy full for your life?
> Help me understand your thinking please. Why
> is it always off tangent ?
My thinking is always parallel with 6 million peoples in Laos,
as you know Lao weakness is lack of selfish and greedy
probably from Buddha's lesson I think...
Corruption has NEVER STOPPED human progress. (I'll explain this
momentarily.)
Furthermore, you'd be totally wrong to say there's no corruption in
the Obama or Bush crowds, or in the Democratic or Republican party.
Because that, again, is naive.
The thing is this (and this is only the first level of safeguard, and
it is a crude, brutish, but necessary one):
*********** in a FUNCTIONAL, multiple-party political society,
corruption is SPREAD more thinly across different parties, different
groups, and different institutions, MANY of which really do NOT like
each other. That means THEY really do compete for the scarce sources
inside the society's treasuries!
Such a competition, like the one between Republicans and Democrats ---
people who aren't that different from one another to the eye of s
FOREIGNER but who are so different to each other in many basic,
philosophical ways, that they sometimes are willing to break the law
or even KILL to outdo or silence the other.
To an English person, or an Australian, or a German, or a Chinese,
Bush and Obama speak more or less the same language, particularly in
US foreign policies.  But to 99.9% of Liberals and 90% of Democrats,
if the Cons and Republicans killing funding to, say, Planned
Parenthood, the NEA, Public Broadcasting, Public Education/Dep. of
Education, etc.... it is a big loss...
To Conservative and Republican Americans, they rather we return to
living and behaving like it was in the 1700s, where White males had
all the votes and they ran all the offices in the land, made all the
glorious, righteous, and wise decisions concerning all other God
fearing people...
Anyway, point is, corruption has always been and will always be with
humanity.
The SECOND and more important level I meant to get to is this:
*********** individual and institutional corruption in multiple-party
political systems are not only spread thinner across different groups
but it's also tempered by SLOW, GRINDING, and MORE INDEPENDENT
institutions that don't always rule according to the POLITICAL POWER
in charge at the moment.
Powerful federal judges --- from the "inferior" federal appeals and
circuit courts all the way to the "supreme" court --- NORMALLY have
tract records that can be reliable predictable.  If they are appointed
by Republican presidents, they decide a certain way more often; and if
they are appointed by Democratic presidents, they decide a certain
OTHER WAY more often...
But there are the border-line one or two.  Supreme Court Justice David
Souter, appointed by George HW Bush and retired 2 years ago, turned
out to be a rather LIBERAL justice, although he was appointed by H.W.
Bush, a Republican president.
But right now, Scalia, Thomas, Roberts, and Alito are squarely very
conservative.  And while chief justice Roberts said "Roe v. Wade" is a
"settled" issue, Scalia, Thomas, and Alito WOULD VOTE to over turn
women having the right to abortions, if such a case should make its
way to the Supreme Court!
Presently the "Liberal bloc" is both small and uncertain, because you
have Alana Kagan, Sonia Sotomayor being very new... and although
they're "minority" both in being women and being Latino and Jewish
American, we don't know how they'd ultimately vote, especially on very
fundamental issues.
The only certified Liberal justice left in the US Supreme Court right
now may be argued to be Ruth Bader Ginsburg; but she's old and sick
and wants to retire.  Breyer is reliable liberal, too.  Kennedy is the
border-line loner.  He sometimes votes with the "Liberal bloc" and
sometimes votes with the "Conservative bloc."
But this "Liberal bloc" is far from the 4 strong bloc during much of
Conservative chief Justice Rehnquist 19 year-reign, when you had
staggered group of LIberals like Thurgood Marshall, Harry Blackmun,
John Paul Stevens, David Souter, Stephen Breyer, and Ruth Bader
Ginsburg...with only Rehnquist, Scalia, and Thomas being the only 3
permanent Conservatives...with Kennedy and Sandra Day O'Connor
straddling the fence...
Anyway, while very boring and tedious, the point is..... in multi
party political systems, CORRUPTION --- both at the individual and
institutional levels --- can be addressed by THE OTHER party, through
pressure, through elections, to demonstrations, etc.
In single-party political regimes, CORRUPTION can not be addressed.
Yes, I know, we know, the TOP dog usually make decrees from above:  I
DECREE that all who corrupt will be dealt with... blah, blah,
blah..... but it's not possible because corruption IS a part of HUMAN
NATURE, starting from the VERY TOP DOWN TO THE STREET worker...
Obama is corrupt; Bush was corrupt... and so is Laos president right
now... I don't know his name... but he is just as corrupt.  The
Democratic Party is corrupt, and so is the Republican Party... and so
is Laos Communist Party... but Obama and Bush and every person who
aspires to be in the White House, as well as in Congress know, they
can stash cash in their refrigerators, have sex with high priced
prostitutes, and/or threaten to bring God's wrath upon those below or
on the other side....
But they also have to be reasonably mindful of the FICKLE masses, who
CAN AND DO kick their asses out of office for real, even if not often
enough.
Does that fear every permeate in the mind of the Communist Party
leaders in Vientiane?  Of course not!  If they don't do as the top 2-3
Communist bosses at the very top want, they can be and will be yanked
from their posts, but the top dogs can replace them with some other
"non-corruptible" Communist faithful... Even if there are "free
elections," I mean, how much choices do the people have, when 99.7%
are Communist Party approved candidates?
It's total nonsense.
Even very, very mediocre bureacrats like Yong --- who spend most of
his life in the WEST but who pretends to THINK Laos communist Party is
a real, authentic, Lao-invented political system --- even people like
Yong understand that the Lao PDR is just a total failure as an
exclusive political institution. The only reason he swears up and down
the side of Lake Geneva Laos Communist Party is the only political
party the Laotians need is that if it DID GO AWAY, Yong won't be
hired, because he's not very bright.... his many jobs and promotions
are due to his affiliation with THE PARTY, not because he's really
very qualify.
Actually, to be more accurate, whether Yong is qualify, we'd never
know, since he's never used  talents --- through open competition with
people with different mind sets and work habits and education --- to
get to where he is in the Party apparatus today... by posh Lake Geneva
in Switzerland....
It is the COMMUNIST PARTY's EXCLUSIVE institutional corruption that he
relies on to allow his advances.... Of course, it goes without saying
ALL communist bureaucrats, from the lowly ones down there, to those
staffing foreign embassies THINK it's their big brains that got them
where they are, NOT that the bosses and PARTY they work for allow ONLY
ONE IDEA and if you want to advance, your chances are a whole lot
better if you belong to that PARTY and exhibit THAT one-party
mentality....
ສິງດຽວທີ່ແນ່ນອນຄື ປຊຊ ລາວ ບໍ່ມີສິດເສຣິພາບທີ່ຈະ have free expressions. You could find out when you return to live there!
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all question are compounds and in the future only day dreamer like
Mr. Lao khamhum have the answer ha ha ha ha ha ha
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> Do you have any mental capacity to dream like us ? I'm starting to get
> really pissed. Do you have any @#@%! idea
> of what I am saying  ?
No sir I have no mental-dream problem like you, I was born with logic
mind when I was young friend told me that smoke opium can make
a beautiful day dreams that some time it feel like you own the island
or be a king for small country surrounding with beautiful women,
I tried couple time nothing work for me..It is free world go ahead
enjoy your day dream ask many question as you can but do not
answer by yourself otherwise you will lost and your children will
have hard time looking for you... ha ha ha ha
> No sir I have no mental-dream problem like you, I was born with logic
> mind when I was young friend told me that smoke opium can make
> a beautiful day dreams that some time it feel like you own the island
> or be a king for small country surrounding with beautiful women,
> I tried couple time nothing work for me..
Phuan,
Were you one of the kids trekked along with their dads that came to
our village near Ban Khong, Southwestern of Phonsavanh?  Almost every
Phuan friend of mom and dad stopped in our house, and were given free
raw opium to smoke.  Phuan friends seemed to enjoy it very much then.
That's why you have been kissing commie asses hoping the commies will
allow you to go back and taste Hmong Ya fin huh!!!  Ya fin does not
make you go crazy but help you to relax...that perfectly for ya,
phuan, he he he he .
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I told you i was train meditation since early 20, I don't have a dream
my mind always
with my body, before you think I'm fool check yourself people who have
day dreams
is like a lay away to become insanity...
>
> No sir I have no mental-dream problem like you, I was born with logic
> mind
LaoPhuan, dude.  You are the village idiot here in SCL.  You don't got
no "logic mind," brotha.
People are different, no doubt.
Some bitch about everything in the cosmos, like I do.  Some rant on
and on about all things, from the oscillation of cesium (that's the
element the fastest and most accurate clock every created by human
beings used to be based on... likely still based on), to Sci-Fi/
fantasy reality... like I do.
Others prefer to say/type one or two "deep thought" lines.
But, you, brotha Lao phuan... you consistently prove, no matter what
you say or type, to be the village idiot... the typical knucklehead
without logic, aware of basic concept of dimensions and plurality,
notions of validity and coherency and cogency.... you have no inkling,
from your gibberish postings, that you have ANY aware of circular
reasoning, bad and incoherent thinking... hell, you don't even know
that some people have mental retardation -- even if mild -- and it may
not be easily seen by many but such mild retardation can, over time,
be established...
In short, you are a throw-back, a relic of the past.
You'd be just as happy anywhere, so long as you get your little
monthly pay check, some communal attention, some music to dance to
every other weekend, some alcohol, and a platform with other like-
minded folks where you yap about your "logic mind" mindlessly...
Of course, I have no doubt, you can also be dangerous; knuckleheads
and their kinds talk in broken sentences like I said:
"I got gun here, big.  You don't stop talking, say bad things about me
and my hero, I shoot you dead, or take you jail, okay?"
+++++++++++++++++++++++
> "I got gun here, big. You don't stop talking, say bad things about me
> and my hero, I shoot you dead, or take you jail, okay?"
Her lao all these years I overrated you I thought
you're better than that, so if I have different mindset
from you I will get shot in the head?
I warning you if I die our friend here going miss
an idiot thread from me and they'll hunt you like
squirrel or make you staving to death in the jungle
of goat mountain....think about it...
No, you won't get shot from me!  I don't even know how to hold a gun
correctly.
I am a Liberal, a tree huger!
I would more likely be the guy who's up in a big tree, and falls to
his death... than the big guy with the axe, the chainsaw, or the
bulldozer cutting down that big tree...
I was saying your mind-set is OF the type that says like Thanouxay's
bosses and crowds like that:  people whose power stems from brute
force, the butt of a gun, and NOT LOGIC or, as the phrase goes, not
out of a "pen," a writing instrument.
Y'know, people who usually tell others, if they don't follow "the
correct leadership"'s way of correct and harmonious thinking:  "You
stop talking, stop asking question.  We take you to jail, or shoot you
dead, if you resist."
Do you see or read about Liberal individuals or even large Liberals
groups talk like that?  No!
Liberals are dangerous, no doubt; because we QUESTION EVERYTHING in
the cosmos.  Because we proceed from the theory that we do NOT KNOW
things. Questioning everything, everyone --- and particularly those
who say they have "correct" ideas --- WHY or HOW they came to those
"correct" ideas....
We Liberals do not, as a general principle, resort to violence,
weapons, or other brutish force to TRY to get our points across.  We
simply keep bitchin' in writing and in speaking...
People who resort to violence, weapons, and other forms of tactics to
SILENCE people are PEOPLE LIKE your comrade Thanouxay and his bosses
in Vientiane, those in Tripoli, Lybia... those in Bahrain, in Syria,
in Saudi Arabia, in China, in Vietnam, in North Korea, in Burma, and
in Iran...
We believe in using MOSTLY ONLY INFORMATION to accomplish things; and
while we know information is never reliable, we believe MORE of it ---
from different perspectives, by different people and A LOT OF IT ALL
THE TIME --- is the only way to get IGNORANCE out of people....
NOT a benevolent & "correct leadership," a religion, an gun, violence
or any such brute.