info
Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss
And Neither Are You Leo Tolstoy!
130 views
Skip to first unread message
Her Lao
Feb 22, 2015, 7:36:41 PM2/22/15
to
The horror of editing, and posting, on the fly!
After a couple times, it's all gone to hell, with junks missing and things I've never written or read popping up out of thin air!
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
Here's a better edited (and final) draft.
If it were to be published, again, I would have to do an additional 50% reduction, with tons of additional editing & spelling checks; but for general reading purposes alone, here, this is decent enough.
My original title was called "THE TOYOTA TUNDRA WAR."
But, as usual, I changed my mind and thought "You Are No Sun Tzu, Sir" was a bit more irrelevant!
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
Sunday, December 28, 2014
Friday, February 20, 2015
Saturday, Feb. 21, 2015
Sunday, Feb 22, 2015
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
You Are No Sun Tzu, Sir!
Sun Tzu and THE ART OF WAR can be read on-line, so I will not talk about them here.
But this was written with Sun Tzu in mind, in terms of "thinking outside the box."
I asked myself, "How would Sun Tzu, the great war theoretician, deal with these peace-loving Islamists in the 21st century who quote the QURAN, on the one hand, while they decapitate and display severed heads on poles in downtown squares wherever they rule, on the other"?
Here, I tried to articulate a strategy that would help win a war against ISIS. There are different ways to defeat ISIS. And ISIS is easily defeated, if casualties among the populations were no object. But since civilian casualties are now high in America's consciousness, given the recent wars America has conducted in this same region, this new strategy, then, is the most palatable.
But, first, a few about ISIS...
Arguments to the contrary notwithstanding, ISIS is just like Al Qaida, a terror organization. But ISIS is more organized and better-funded.
Initially funded by some Middle Eastern Sunni Muslim conservatives, ISIS is now largely self-sufficient. It has taken over cities with banks, with hundreds of millions in cash. It also has captured a lot of lands with oil fields. And, despite the bombings by Americans and a few Arab allies, oil still earns ISIS millions of dollars, per month, in small trucking operations.
Two other noticeable income generators for ISIS are racketeering (the extortion of money and goods from local businesses) and kidnapping. It is estimated that ransom payments have netted ISIS and close affiliates tens of millions over just the last 2 years alone.
Each war has its own peculiarity and unique circumstances. This stratagem here pertains to this war against ISIS only. And since about 99.5% of ISIS enemies are Muslims in the Middle East, Muslims, I will argue, must take the lead in this fight.
More specifically, Syrians and Iraqis must be the ones who do the actual town to town, door to door fighting.
America, Europe, and other non-Syrian and non-Iraqi partners should only play a supporting role. But that supporting role must be more than just dropping bombs from 30K to 50K feet up. Dropping a few big bombs and lopping a few missiles from distances, with complete game-like infrared pictures of exploding warehouses, is viscerally satisfying; unfortunately, that is NOT going to be enough to dismantle or destroy an enemy as resourceful and adaptive as ISIS.
Self-propaganda notwithstanding, ISIS knows that the West does not bomb indiscriminately. ISIS knows, for example, that having its members living in small groups of 2-3 in local citizen apartments and homes ensures their safety to very high degrees. Yes, Kobani was bombed to rubble; but that's because roughly 98% of the people from Kobani had already left for Turkey.
On the other hand, we know roughly 98% of the citizens of Raqqa and Mosul, totaling over two million people, ARE STILL LIVING in those cities.
NO INDISCRIMINATE BOMBINGS IN RAQQA AND MOSUL BY AMERICA.
That, indeed, is invaluable information for ISIS.
Further, living in small cells among local citizens also allows ISIS members to monitor the citizens in ways they couldn't have, if they were living among themselves in the desert, in dug-out and "fortified" tunnels or holes, in mountains or training facilities.
I'll say only a few words about wars, in general, and about the two Bush wars, in specific: "If we had kept 10K-50K soldiers there, none of these would have happened" is simply a fanciful wish. There are many kinds of "facts," but here is one that stands the test of time: occupying forces and colonialism breed generational contempt and resentment.
Unless the locals wanted you occupying their country, and hardly anyone does, it doesn't matter how powerful you are, militarily, they'd eventually find a way to defeat you and send you home. Even when the locals are somehow forced to be receptive to the idea as it was with Germany, South Korea, and Japan after WWII and the Korean War, respectively, it's too costly.
The TENS OF THOUSANDS of troops still stationed in bases across Europe and Asia, for example, cost America MANY BILLIONS of dollars, per year.
Thus, leaving 10K-50K American troops in Afghanistan and Iraq, each, for years to decades, is a non-starter. But, again, doing that would create so much resentment and distrust on both the occupied and the occupiers, there'd never be peace.
That old line of argument, therefore, has little to no merit. And that's that.
Please, note that at the time I first started writing this, late 2014, shortly after Obama started bombing ISIS, there were no more than a few hundred active American soldiers in Iraq, in the various obscure "training" or spying roles and capacities.
Today, there are, in Iraq alone, close to 4,000 uniformed, active American soldiers. Possibly more. They're not at the front-line, true.
But "the front line" is always shifting, so any day of the week, they could be attacked or captured. The situation in the city of Baghdadi and the base a few miles from it, with those 300-500 American marine "trainers," showed that ISIS could attack any city, any time they want. ISIS has a web of conquered towns and cities dotting the Syrian and Iraqi landscapes.
Being merely confined to "just military bases" doesn't make American soldiers all that safe.
The main thrust to this piece, therefore, is how to successfully fight ISIS, with no more than a 1.5 to 2 full brigades (5,000 to 8,000) of SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCES from America and its allies, using an "out of the box" strategy.
I won't cite any map here that shows the territories under ISIS control. Some maps show, for example, lands from eastern Syria all the way to the periphery of Baghdad, Iraq, as being controlled by ISIS. I don't think that's very accurate. Most of that are just unoccupied and unlivable deserts.
The more detailed maps show the exact routes and locations under ISIS control. And while it's been estimated that one to two thousand ISIS members have been killed due to bombings the last a couple months, many more thousands have been recruited, during that same period. The range I'd use for active ISIS fighters, based on the reading I've done in the last a couple months, therefore, puts ISIS's strength between 20,000 and 40,000.
So, yes, it is true it'd be foolish to take on 20K-40K fanatics using only 5K-8K special operations forces, in urban settings, doing door to door fighting in towns and cities.
That's not what I am suggesting...
Here, I am talking about inserting small and highly mobile units of 100-200 special operations forces in the various important nodes and junctures OUT THERE IN THE DESERTS, away from urban areas.
In this strategy, anyone who approaches such units, seen miles out, 24/7, needs to be annihilated immediately.
How is that possible?
Unlike North America, Latin America, South Americas, Southeast Asia, or tropical Africa where there are dense forests and jungles and deep valleys and tall mountains in which large groups in the hundreds to thousands could easily hide and survive, for months and years, most of the Middle East is desert or other inhospitable terrains.
To get from points A to B, for supply and re-enforcement purposes, you need to travel through routes; cutting across vast deserts with freezing and boiling temperatures all happening in a 24-hour cycle, TO AVOID SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCES, is not going to be easy for ISIS.
We have night vision, Apaches, Black Hawks, satellites, drones, F-22s, F-15s, F-16s, F-18s, B-1s, B-52s, etc.
When you control those important nodes and junctures, in such hostile desert environments, you have a very significant say in how a group like ISIS operates.
It used to be the case that, for example, ISIS would parade in new, gleaming Toyota Tundras, with scary black flags flying proud and high in the air, as they marauded from one town to the next. After some 6 months of constant bombing, no more such large activities or parades.
But ISIS is still expanding. Why? Because they are still able to move as they please, traveling in smaller contingents.
By deploying 5K-8K special operations forces from the USA, Europe, and (Sunni-majority) Arab countries like Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, and the United Arab Emirates --- and by deploying them in small, mobile units at important nodes and junctures between Syria and Iraq --- you largely stop all easy ISIS vehicular traffic.
A strangle-hold on ISIS supply, re-supply, and re-enforcement activities means eventual death for the terror organization.
And there should be only ONE RULE, in this strategy: KILL ALL WHO APPROACH YOU IN THE VAST DESERT.
No exceptions made.
Millions of leaflets, therefore, are needed to be dropped in villages, towns, and cities all over Syria and Iraq. Harsh and unfair, true, but it must be done. A short term acute suffering is likely better than a long term and unstoppable ISIS-like cancerous infestation all over the Middle East, Africa, and beyond.
That would allow tens to hundreds of thousands of local Syrian, Iraqi and Kurdish forces to fight in towns and cities, doing door to door fighting against ISIS in terrain lay-outs and among local people Syrian and Iraqi forces know and understand best.
And this, or a similar strategy, needs to be implemented. Better sooner than later.
Contrary to Obama's nonsensical assertion --- e.g., "This war on terror won't be over in weeks or months; it will take years" --- TIME IS THE ESSENCE.
And time is NOT on our side.
If ISIS is a cancer, as Obama and his advisors correctly argue it is, then giving a vicious, fast-spreading cancer YEARS to spread defeats any point in trying to stop it in the first place. A cancer that is both vicious and fast-spreading needs to be operated on and taken out ASAP.
This strategy accomplishes three major aims as follows:
#1: It will minimize injuries and deaths to both American troops as well as civilians, since most civilians will stay in town.
#2: It allows Syrians and Iraqis to do city to city, street to street, and door to door fighting among civilian populations with traditions and languages they know best.
How or why does this strategy work?
Napoleon and Frederick the Great were right: an army, even one like ISIS, marches on its stomach.
We are very MOBILE, both vertically and laterally.
ISIS IS 100% NOT VERTICALLY MOBILE.
Adding a strangle-hold on their lateral movements, too, and you pretty much starve them of the men and supplies they had to have in order to keep up with and to expand their pillaging and killing.
#3: This approach cannot easily be propagandized by ISIS and their sympathizers as an invasion, much less an occupation.
A 5K-8K SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCES contingent can be air-lifted out of their desert posts, within a week or two, once Syrians and Iraqis have taken back all their villages and towns and cities.
This latter aspect of point #3 is, indeed, one of the most "sticky points" in large troop application in foreign countries. We all know that when you send tens to hundreds of thousands of troops to a FOREIGN COUNTRY to fight, the question always is: what do you do, once you've defeat the enemies?
Do you create large bases and stay to occupy the country? Or do you leave, after having sacrificed thousands of wounds and dead, in town to town, city to city, doing door to door fighting?
To me, then, sending in a rapid deployed contingent of highly armed, highly mobile special ops forces is the most palatable, intelligent, and effective approach to this ISIS crisis.
But, again, TIME IS NOT ON OUR SIDE.
ISIS is expanding.
Month after month, even under constant American and ally bombing, ISIS has been able to consistently recruit thousands of fresh faces. More worrying, new groups are sprouting all over the Middle East and Africa ... all pledging allegiance to ISIS.
Again, the Obama people keep saying fighting ISIS would take years, not months.
But the American people are already starting to turn against that doctrine and belief; even Obama himself is already starting to equivocate...
Right now, there are around 4K American "advisers" in, over, or around Iraq and Syria. What would happen, ask yourself, if one, two, or ten uniformed men and women were captured and then decapitated, or BURNT ALIVE, like that Jordanian pilot?
Do you really think Obama would stick with his usual "no American boots on the ground"? Of course not! If THAT GRIM SCENARIO HAPPENED, many thousands would be sent in immediately.
But IF THAT WHOLE MORBID CASCADE CAME TO PASS it would NOT, then, be a proactive approach.
Knee-jerk responses are not sound foreign policies.
In early 2014, when ISIS was just starting to become more visible and formally splitting away from Al Qaida, the percentage of Americans favoring "ground troops" was in the high teens to 20% range.
By late summer of 2014, when ISIS was running in circles around Syrian rebels, Iraqis armed forces and Kurds, that number ticked up only very slightly.
Now, "the Ides of March" approaches, 2015.
The percentage of Americans supporting the "ground troops" approach is now in the 50% range. More worrying still, the percentage of Americans saying "Obama doesn't have a plan to defeat ISIS" or that "his bombing campaign has failed" is also around the 50% range.
As the pressure slowly builds, Obama finds that "no troops on the ground," for both doctrinal and practical purposes, simply because "the American citizens are tired of wars" is almost as bad as putting thousands of troops on the ground, in combat roles, simply because most American citizens are now "for it."
This complex and shifting reality, then, is Obama's greatest dilemma.
After a couple times, it's all gone to hell, with junks missing and things I've never written or read popping up out of thin air!
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
Here's a better edited (and final) draft.
If it were to be published, again, I would have to do an additional 50% reduction, with tons of additional editing & spelling checks; but for general reading purposes alone, here, this is decent enough.
My original title was called "THE TOYOTA TUNDRA WAR."
But, as usual, I changed my mind and thought "You Are No Sun Tzu, Sir" was a bit more irrelevant!
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
Sunday, December 28, 2014
Friday, February 20, 2015
Saturday, Feb. 21, 2015
Sunday, Feb 22, 2015
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
You Are No Sun Tzu, Sir!
Sun Tzu and THE ART OF WAR can be read on-line, so I will not talk about them here.
But this was written with Sun Tzu in mind, in terms of "thinking outside the box."
I asked myself, "How would Sun Tzu, the great war theoretician, deal with these peace-loving Islamists in the 21st century who quote the QURAN, on the one hand, while they decapitate and display severed heads on poles in downtown squares wherever they rule, on the other"?
Here, I tried to articulate a strategy that would help win a war against ISIS. There are different ways to defeat ISIS. And ISIS is easily defeated, if casualties among the populations were no object. But since civilian casualties are now high in America's consciousness, given the recent wars America has conducted in this same region, this new strategy, then, is the most palatable.
But, first, a few about ISIS...
Arguments to the contrary notwithstanding, ISIS is just like Al Qaida, a terror organization. But ISIS is more organized and better-funded.
Initially funded by some Middle Eastern Sunni Muslim conservatives, ISIS is now largely self-sufficient. It has taken over cities with banks, with hundreds of millions in cash. It also has captured a lot of lands with oil fields. And, despite the bombings by Americans and a few Arab allies, oil still earns ISIS millions of dollars, per month, in small trucking operations.
Two other noticeable income generators for ISIS are racketeering (the extortion of money and goods from local businesses) and kidnapping. It is estimated that ransom payments have netted ISIS and close affiliates tens of millions over just the last 2 years alone.
Each war has its own peculiarity and unique circumstances. This stratagem here pertains to this war against ISIS only. And since about 99.5% of ISIS enemies are Muslims in the Middle East, Muslims, I will argue, must take the lead in this fight.
More specifically, Syrians and Iraqis must be the ones who do the actual town to town, door to door fighting.
America, Europe, and other non-Syrian and non-Iraqi partners should only play a supporting role. But that supporting role must be more than just dropping bombs from 30K to 50K feet up. Dropping a few big bombs and lopping a few missiles from distances, with complete game-like infrared pictures of exploding warehouses, is viscerally satisfying; unfortunately, that is NOT going to be enough to dismantle or destroy an enemy as resourceful and adaptive as ISIS.
Self-propaganda notwithstanding, ISIS knows that the West does not bomb indiscriminately. ISIS knows, for example, that having its members living in small groups of 2-3 in local citizen apartments and homes ensures their safety to very high degrees. Yes, Kobani was bombed to rubble; but that's because roughly 98% of the people from Kobani had already left for Turkey.
On the other hand, we know roughly 98% of the citizens of Raqqa and Mosul, totaling over two million people, ARE STILL LIVING in those cities.
NO INDISCRIMINATE BOMBINGS IN RAQQA AND MOSUL BY AMERICA.
That, indeed, is invaluable information for ISIS.
Further, living in small cells among local citizens also allows ISIS members to monitor the citizens in ways they couldn't have, if they were living among themselves in the desert, in dug-out and "fortified" tunnels or holes, in mountains or training facilities.
I'll say only a few words about wars, in general, and about the two Bush wars, in specific: "If we had kept 10K-50K soldiers there, none of these would have happened" is simply a fanciful wish. There are many kinds of "facts," but here is one that stands the test of time: occupying forces and colonialism breed generational contempt and resentment.
Unless the locals wanted you occupying their country, and hardly anyone does, it doesn't matter how powerful you are, militarily, they'd eventually find a way to defeat you and send you home. Even when the locals are somehow forced to be receptive to the idea as it was with Germany, South Korea, and Japan after WWII and the Korean War, respectively, it's too costly.
The TENS OF THOUSANDS of troops still stationed in bases across Europe and Asia, for example, cost America MANY BILLIONS of dollars, per year.
Thus, leaving 10K-50K American troops in Afghanistan and Iraq, each, for years to decades, is a non-starter. But, again, doing that would create so much resentment and distrust on both the occupied and the occupiers, there'd never be peace.
That old line of argument, therefore, has little to no merit. And that's that.
Please, note that at the time I first started writing this, late 2014, shortly after Obama started bombing ISIS, there were no more than a few hundred active American soldiers in Iraq, in the various obscure "training" or spying roles and capacities.
Today, there are, in Iraq alone, close to 4,000 uniformed, active American soldiers. Possibly more. They're not at the front-line, true.
But "the front line" is always shifting, so any day of the week, they could be attacked or captured. The situation in the city of Baghdadi and the base a few miles from it, with those 300-500 American marine "trainers," showed that ISIS could attack any city, any time they want. ISIS has a web of conquered towns and cities dotting the Syrian and Iraqi landscapes.
Being merely confined to "just military bases" doesn't make American soldiers all that safe.
The main thrust to this piece, therefore, is how to successfully fight ISIS, with no more than a 1.5 to 2 full brigades (5,000 to 8,000) of SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCES from America and its allies, using an "out of the box" strategy.
I won't cite any map here that shows the territories under ISIS control. Some maps show, for example, lands from eastern Syria all the way to the periphery of Baghdad, Iraq, as being controlled by ISIS. I don't think that's very accurate. Most of that are just unoccupied and unlivable deserts.
The more detailed maps show the exact routes and locations under ISIS control. And while it's been estimated that one to two thousand ISIS members have been killed due to bombings the last a couple months, many more thousands have been recruited, during that same period. The range I'd use for active ISIS fighters, based on the reading I've done in the last a couple months, therefore, puts ISIS's strength between 20,000 and 40,000.
So, yes, it is true it'd be foolish to take on 20K-40K fanatics using only 5K-8K special operations forces, in urban settings, doing door to door fighting in towns and cities.
That's not what I am suggesting...
Here, I am talking about inserting small and highly mobile units of 100-200 special operations forces in the various important nodes and junctures OUT THERE IN THE DESERTS, away from urban areas.
In this strategy, anyone who approaches such units, seen miles out, 24/7, needs to be annihilated immediately.
How is that possible?
Unlike North America, Latin America, South Americas, Southeast Asia, or tropical Africa where there are dense forests and jungles and deep valleys and tall mountains in which large groups in the hundreds to thousands could easily hide and survive, for months and years, most of the Middle East is desert or other inhospitable terrains.
To get from points A to B, for supply and re-enforcement purposes, you need to travel through routes; cutting across vast deserts with freezing and boiling temperatures all happening in a 24-hour cycle, TO AVOID SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCES, is not going to be easy for ISIS.
We have night vision, Apaches, Black Hawks, satellites, drones, F-22s, F-15s, F-16s, F-18s, B-1s, B-52s, etc.
When you control those important nodes and junctures, in such hostile desert environments, you have a very significant say in how a group like ISIS operates.
It used to be the case that, for example, ISIS would parade in new, gleaming Toyota Tundras, with scary black flags flying proud and high in the air, as they marauded from one town to the next. After some 6 months of constant bombing, no more such large activities or parades.
But ISIS is still expanding. Why? Because they are still able to move as they please, traveling in smaller contingents.
By deploying 5K-8K special operations forces from the USA, Europe, and (Sunni-majority) Arab countries like Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, and the United Arab Emirates --- and by deploying them in small, mobile units at important nodes and junctures between Syria and Iraq --- you largely stop all easy ISIS vehicular traffic.
A strangle-hold on ISIS supply, re-supply, and re-enforcement activities means eventual death for the terror organization.
And there should be only ONE RULE, in this strategy: KILL ALL WHO APPROACH YOU IN THE VAST DESERT.
No exceptions made.
Millions of leaflets, therefore, are needed to be dropped in villages, towns, and cities all over Syria and Iraq. Harsh and unfair, true, but it must be done. A short term acute suffering is likely better than a long term and unstoppable ISIS-like cancerous infestation all over the Middle East, Africa, and beyond.
That would allow tens to hundreds of thousands of local Syrian, Iraqi and Kurdish forces to fight in towns and cities, doing door to door fighting against ISIS in terrain lay-outs and among local people Syrian and Iraqi forces know and understand best.
And this, or a similar strategy, needs to be implemented. Better sooner than later.
Contrary to Obama's nonsensical assertion --- e.g., "This war on terror won't be over in weeks or months; it will take years" --- TIME IS THE ESSENCE.
And time is NOT on our side.
If ISIS is a cancer, as Obama and his advisors correctly argue it is, then giving a vicious, fast-spreading cancer YEARS to spread defeats any point in trying to stop it in the first place. A cancer that is both vicious and fast-spreading needs to be operated on and taken out ASAP.
This strategy accomplishes three major aims as follows:
#1: It will minimize injuries and deaths to both American troops as well as civilians, since most civilians will stay in town.
#2: It allows Syrians and Iraqis to do city to city, street to street, and door to door fighting among civilian populations with traditions and languages they know best.
How or why does this strategy work?
Napoleon and Frederick the Great were right: an army, even one like ISIS, marches on its stomach.
We are very MOBILE, both vertically and laterally.
ISIS IS 100% NOT VERTICALLY MOBILE.
Adding a strangle-hold on their lateral movements, too, and you pretty much starve them of the men and supplies they had to have in order to keep up with and to expand their pillaging and killing.
#3: This approach cannot easily be propagandized by ISIS and their sympathizers as an invasion, much less an occupation.
A 5K-8K SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCES contingent can be air-lifted out of their desert posts, within a week or two, once Syrians and Iraqis have taken back all their villages and towns and cities.
This latter aspect of point #3 is, indeed, one of the most "sticky points" in large troop application in foreign countries. We all know that when you send tens to hundreds of thousands of troops to a FOREIGN COUNTRY to fight, the question always is: what do you do, once you've defeat the enemies?
Do you create large bases and stay to occupy the country? Or do you leave, after having sacrificed thousands of wounds and dead, in town to town, city to city, doing door to door fighting?
To me, then, sending in a rapid deployed contingent of highly armed, highly mobile special ops forces is the most palatable, intelligent, and effective approach to this ISIS crisis.
But, again, TIME IS NOT ON OUR SIDE.
ISIS is expanding.
Month after month, even under constant American and ally bombing, ISIS has been able to consistently recruit thousands of fresh faces. More worrying, new groups are sprouting all over the Middle East and Africa ... all pledging allegiance to ISIS.
Again, the Obama people keep saying fighting ISIS would take years, not months.
But the American people are already starting to turn against that doctrine and belief; even Obama himself is already starting to equivocate...
Right now, there are around 4K American "advisers" in, over, or around Iraq and Syria. What would happen, ask yourself, if one, two, or ten uniformed men and women were captured and then decapitated, or BURNT ALIVE, like that Jordanian pilot?
Do you really think Obama would stick with his usual "no American boots on the ground"? Of course not! If THAT GRIM SCENARIO HAPPENED, many thousands would be sent in immediately.
But IF THAT WHOLE MORBID CASCADE CAME TO PASS it would NOT, then, be a proactive approach.
Knee-jerk responses are not sound foreign policies.
In early 2014, when ISIS was just starting to become more visible and formally splitting away from Al Qaida, the percentage of Americans favoring "ground troops" was in the high teens to 20% range.
By late summer of 2014, when ISIS was running in circles around Syrian rebels, Iraqis armed forces and Kurds, that number ticked up only very slightly.
Now, "the Ides of March" approaches, 2015.
The percentage of Americans supporting the "ground troops" approach is now in the 50% range. More worrying still, the percentage of Americans saying "Obama doesn't have a plan to defeat ISIS" or that "his bombing campaign has failed" is also around the 50% range.
As the pressure slowly builds, Obama finds that "no troops on the ground," for both doctrinal and practical purposes, simply because "the American citizens are tired of wars" is almost as bad as putting thousands of troops on the ground, in combat roles, simply because most American citizens are now "for it."
This complex and shifting reality, then, is Obama's greatest dilemma.
Her Lao
Mar 8, 2015, 9:09:31 AM3/8/15
to
http://news.yahoo.com/france-pm-10-000-europeans-could-waging-jihad-112101797.html
Let's say the French PM Manuel Valls estimate is off by, oh, 80%. Well, you'd still have around 2,000 Europeans fighting in Syria and Iraq towards the end of 2015.
That's a lot of fighters, adding on top of the SEVERAL THOUSANDS of Europeans ALREADY there fighting with ISIS and other "fake" "religion of peace" followers and fighters.
That is why you don't allow a cancer that is both vicious and fast spreading, like ISIS, to go on for YEARS, as Obama's "war on terrorism" is said to need to take.
Years.
Now, Boko Haram has just declare, formally, allegiance to ISIS, in Africa; and Africa IS THE SCARRIER and HARDER TO FIGHT terrains, since central/sub-Sahara Africa is thick with impenetrable forest, mountains, valleys, and other landscapes and terrains that would make it IMPOSSIBLE to fight a well organized, large terrorist organization who could hide AND SURVIVE in the thick forests for years. The only time they need to come to towns and cities across Africa, is to terrorize and get supplies, in clandestine set-ups with middle men.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/05/us-mideast-crisis-syria-hazzm-idUSKBN0M10GV20150305
Notice that WITHOUT adequate support, with the CIA only giving some 20 or so anti-tank missile systems to HAZAM, the socalled moderate Syrian rebel group to the north of Syria, and a budget, per some of their commanders said, of only about $500,000.... that after a year, HAZAM, which had an original number of some 5,000 is dissolved?, with many members having gone to join up with Al Nusra and ISIS?
Well, this is Obama's half-peace-half-war attitude.
On the on set of last summer, just a week or two before the major ISIS offensive, Hilary Clinton said she would have armed the "moderate" Syria rebels, like John McCain had also advocated, Obama said anyone who thought they knew some moderate Syria groups and they further thought arming them would have made the situation different AND BETTER, that they're fantasizing.
Well, immediately ISIS went on a successful offensive rampage, over running both Syrian and Iraq groups.
And, as the passage of time over the last year show, Obama DID IMMEDIATELY BEGIN an CIA clandestine operation; except it was never that clandestine, since the one or two small Syrian rebel groups that were, after a few months of "vetting", given arms... they said out loud, time and time again, that such SMALL HELP was nowhere near the level of help they needed to defeat extreme groups like AL NURSA, ISIS, as well as the Assad regime.
Well, turned out they were right.
20 TOW missile system plus $500,000 and a few dozen old AK47s were not gonna help any one or any group very much.
ISIS and AL NURSA and other extremist sunni groups had very good and sustained support before they over-ran Iraq and Syrian government posts and accumulate tons of heavy equipment. Those extremists group, as we know, also have a steady stream of 7th century wannabe jihadist recruits streaming in from the West and the Arab world, in the many hundreds PER MONTH, at least.
So, after a year of allowing ISIS to ran amok, Obama said his CIA and State Department folks ARE NOW STARTING TO VET a few dozens, per month, of "moderate Syrian rebels" to be trained in Jordan, Turkey, Qatar, and one or two other Arab sites.
I don't know how a few hundreds of "moderate Syrian rebels," trained every few months, armed with LIGHT arms, mostly Eastern Europe and Russia made 1940s-90s guns.... are gonna defeat both the ASSAD regime and ISIS and AL NURSA.
Apparently Obama and his inner circle decision makers think that trick would do.
Or perhaps none of the American commanding officers with knowledge of the Mid East think such silly undertaking would work but that they can't criticize "the Messiah," as comrade Sao Sou Maly said... lest they face insubordination, treason, and related charges of "disrespecting our great nation and our great commander in chief" nonsense?
Let's say the French PM Manuel Valls estimate is off by, oh, 80%. Well, you'd still have around 2,000 Europeans fighting in Syria and Iraq towards the end of 2015.
That's a lot of fighters, adding on top of the SEVERAL THOUSANDS of Europeans ALREADY there fighting with ISIS and other "fake" "religion of peace" followers and fighters.
That is why you don't allow a cancer that is both vicious and fast spreading, like ISIS, to go on for YEARS, as Obama's "war on terrorism" is said to need to take.
Years.
Now, Boko Haram has just declare, formally, allegiance to ISIS, in Africa; and Africa IS THE SCARRIER and HARDER TO FIGHT terrains, since central/sub-Sahara Africa is thick with impenetrable forest, mountains, valleys, and other landscapes and terrains that would make it IMPOSSIBLE to fight a well organized, large terrorist organization who could hide AND SURVIVE in the thick forests for years. The only time they need to come to towns and cities across Africa, is to terrorize and get supplies, in clandestine set-ups with middle men.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/05/us-mideast-crisis-syria-hazzm-idUSKBN0M10GV20150305
Notice that WITHOUT adequate support, with the CIA only giving some 20 or so anti-tank missile systems to HAZAM, the socalled moderate Syrian rebel group to the north of Syria, and a budget, per some of their commanders said, of only about $500,000.... that after a year, HAZAM, which had an original number of some 5,000 is dissolved?, with many members having gone to join up with Al Nusra and ISIS?
Well, this is Obama's half-peace-half-war attitude.
On the on set of last summer, just a week or two before the major ISIS offensive, Hilary Clinton said she would have armed the "moderate" Syria rebels, like John McCain had also advocated, Obama said anyone who thought they knew some moderate Syria groups and they further thought arming them would have made the situation different AND BETTER, that they're fantasizing.
Well, immediately ISIS went on a successful offensive rampage, over running both Syrian and Iraq groups.
And, as the passage of time over the last year show, Obama DID IMMEDIATELY BEGIN an CIA clandestine operation; except it was never that clandestine, since the one or two small Syrian rebel groups that were, after a few months of "vetting", given arms... they said out loud, time and time again, that such SMALL HELP was nowhere near the level of help they needed to defeat extreme groups like AL NURSA, ISIS, as well as the Assad regime.
Well, turned out they were right.
20 TOW missile system plus $500,000 and a few dozen old AK47s were not gonna help any one or any group very much.
ISIS and AL NURSA and other extremist sunni groups had very good and sustained support before they over-ran Iraq and Syrian government posts and accumulate tons of heavy equipment. Those extremists group, as we know, also have a steady stream of 7th century wannabe jihadist recruits streaming in from the West and the Arab world, in the many hundreds PER MONTH, at least.
So, after a year of allowing ISIS to ran amok, Obama said his CIA and State Department folks ARE NOW STARTING TO VET a few dozens, per month, of "moderate Syrian rebels" to be trained in Jordan, Turkey, Qatar, and one or two other Arab sites.
I don't know how a few hundreds of "moderate Syrian rebels," trained every few months, armed with LIGHT arms, mostly Eastern Europe and Russia made 1940s-90s guns.... are gonna defeat both the ASSAD regime and ISIS and AL NURSA.
Apparently Obama and his inner circle decision makers think that trick would do.
Or perhaps none of the American commanding officers with knowledge of the Mid East think such silly undertaking would work but that they can't criticize "the Messiah," as comrade Sao Sou Maly said... lest they face insubordination, treason, and related charges of "disrespecting our great nation and our great commander in chief" nonsense?
Her Lao
Mar 9, 2015, 7:57:58 PM3/9/15
to
Her Lao
Mar 11, 2015, 5:02:04 PM3/11/15
to
On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 6:57:58 PM UTC-5, Her Lao wrote:
https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/03/09/america-is-losing-in-the-war-against-the-islamic-state-and-assad-heres-a-grand-plan/
https://news.vice.com/article/anti-islamic-state-forces-cut-key-iraqsyria-supply-lines
Notice, the most important issue, again, is: freedom of movement. Or the lack thereof.
With an organization like ISIS, that is both successfully recruiting and rapidly spreading, you MUST put a STOP to its ABILITY TO MOVE from town to town, city to city, and country to country (of course, you DON'T want the "country to country" spreading at all; because by then, if it were to happen, it would really be the apocalypse)! Or at least making it SO VERY DIFFICULT for it to freely, in large contingent carrying heavy weapons with them, from one place to another.
And that is a unique ability of the USA and Europe, because we have virtually limitless ability to move VERTICALLY from one place to another, anywhere around the world, but especially in Iraq and Syria now. We have more or less told Syria and Assad NOT to mess with our flights over its territories, so Assad is NOT going to mess with the West and the USA and Jordan and Saudi Arabia and Qatar and the AUE in our bombing and recognizance flights.
If you put 5-8,000 SPECIAL OPS FORCES, in teams of small units of 100-200 around every major junctures in Syria and Iraq, so that NO ONE DARES to cross you, and allow the Syrian rebels as well as Assad, if Assad wants to, fight those extreme Islamist there in Syrian towns and cities, and do the same thing in Iraq, to stop the easy movements of ISIS there, so as to allow Iraqi Kurds and the Iraqi armed forces to focus on fighting them in towns and cities... it is virtually impossible for ISIS to spread like it has been able to....
It will, in that case, REVERT back to small hit and run tactics like Al Qaida, since undertaking major offensives to take a town or a large city is NOT EASILY POSSIBLE, since they won't be able to move, IN LARGE CONTINGENTS from one town or city to another...
It is NOT POSSIBLE to frighten, much less to over-take, a large city if all ISIS could do was to send only a couple soldiers at a time through very hard to travel roads, on foot, with no heavy weapons. And that's all they could and would do, if every major crossroads they had to go through, in order to go on the offensive, in order to send in supplies and re-enforcement, etc., was all controlled by USA and ally SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCES that see and kill everyone that approach them in the open deserts, many miles out!
https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/03/09/america-is-losing-in-the-war-against-the-islamic-state-and-assad-heres-a-grand-plan/
https://news.vice.com/article/anti-islamic-state-forces-cut-key-iraqsyria-supply-lines
Notice, the most important issue, again, is: freedom of movement. Or the lack thereof.
With an organization like ISIS, that is both successfully recruiting and rapidly spreading, you MUST put a STOP to its ABILITY TO MOVE from town to town, city to city, and country to country (of course, you DON'T want the "country to country" spreading at all; because by then, if it were to happen, it would really be the apocalypse)! Or at least making it SO VERY DIFFICULT for it to freely, in large contingent carrying heavy weapons with them, from one place to another.
And that is a unique ability of the USA and Europe, because we have virtually limitless ability to move VERTICALLY from one place to another, anywhere around the world, but especially in Iraq and Syria now. We have more or less told Syria and Assad NOT to mess with our flights over its territories, so Assad is NOT going to mess with the West and the USA and Jordan and Saudi Arabia and Qatar and the AUE in our bombing and recognizance flights.
If you put 5-8,000 SPECIAL OPS FORCES, in teams of small units of 100-200 around every major junctures in Syria and Iraq, so that NO ONE DARES to cross you, and allow the Syrian rebels as well as Assad, if Assad wants to, fight those extreme Islamist there in Syrian towns and cities, and do the same thing in Iraq, to stop the easy movements of ISIS there, so as to allow Iraqi Kurds and the Iraqi armed forces to focus on fighting them in towns and cities... it is virtually impossible for ISIS to spread like it has been able to....
It will, in that case, REVERT back to small hit and run tactics like Al Qaida, since undertaking major offensives to take a town or a large city is NOT EASILY POSSIBLE, since they won't be able to move, IN LARGE CONTINGENTS from one town or city to another...
It is NOT POSSIBLE to frighten, much less to over-take, a large city if all ISIS could do was to send only a couple soldiers at a time through very hard to travel roads, on foot, with no heavy weapons. And that's all they could and would do, if every major crossroads they had to go through, in order to go on the offensive, in order to send in supplies and re-enforcement, etc., was all controlled by USA and ally SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCES that see and kill everyone that approach them in the open deserts, many miles out!
Her Lao
Mar 16, 2015, 3:13:14 AM3/16/15
to
Her Lao
Mar 26, 2015, 12:31:27 AM3/26/15
to
On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 2:13:14 AM UTC-5, Her Lao wrote:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/12/syria-how-far-will-barack-obama-go
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/26/saudi-arabia-begins-airstrikes-against-houthi-in-yemen
As the chaos of the Middle East starts to widen, McCain and other old warriors and arm chair Sun Tzu's like some of us will keep saying: Obama has no plans on any thing when it comes to PRO-ACTIVITY.
All he'd do is REACT to something, here and there and everywhere, when they pop up and make grandiose speeches about the need to defend democracy, American citizens and interests... with little more than a few dozen drone missiles a day, here and there...
Again, MY PSEUDO SUN TZU strategy ---- assuming America is willing to do some serious shit there, again.. and if not, then we should get the fuck out of there 100% --- is to use 5,000 to 8,000 special ops forces, in small and mobile units, to PREVENT THE EASY MOVEMENTS of Al Qaida, ISIS, etc., so as to allow LOCAL FORCES to go into the already taken towns and cities and fight it out, between LOCAL FORCES and ISIS/Al Qaida.
Local forces are not good ONLY WHEN THEY ARE OUT-MANEUVERED by small but persistent Islamists who move fluidly from one town and city to another, to send in support and re-enforcement. Local forces don't have the capability to deal with such maneuvers of these Islamist groups.
That's were America's supreme lateral and VERTICAL ability should come into play, OUT OF THE WAY OF LOCAL CITIZENS AND TOWNS AND CITIES.
The objective of these 5,000 to 8,000 SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCES is merely to PREVENT THE EASE OF MOVEMENTS of ISIS and other Islamists, from one town to another, using clearly known roads cutting through incredibly inhospitable deserts that MOST PEOPLE CAN'T MAKE IT OUT ALIVE, if they were to venture into them with little to no food and water, and all they do is just walk.
Most the Middle East is not Southeast Asia or Latin and South America, where dense jungles and tall mountains, with fresh foods to be had in the wild, could hide large rebel and terrorists groups for months and years... In the ME, you must get from ONE TWO OR CITY TO ANOTHER within a few hours, if you want to stay alive, and you must do that through mostly cars, trucks, or other fast means, NOT WALKING THROUGH THE DESERTS FOR HOURS AND DAYS...
Sure, ISIS and other small Islamist groups COULD focus on attacking these small but highly mobile American and Western SPECIAL OPS FORCES in the desert; but that means the towns and cities ISIS and Islamists have already captured are DEFENSELESS, and they could be more easily RE-TAKEN BY LOCAL SYRIAN AND IRAQI FORCES!
And out there in the Deserts of the Middle East, where citizen deaths are MINIMIZED, America's ability to move laterally and VERTICALLY at any moment's notices, for TENS to HUNDREDS OF MILES in radius would easily stop small ISIS and Islamist groups from organizing effective strategies and tactics to take towns and cities!
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/12/syria-how-far-will-barack-obama-go
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/26/saudi-arabia-begins-airstrikes-against-houthi-in-yemen
As the chaos of the Middle East starts to widen, McCain and other old warriors and arm chair Sun Tzu's like some of us will keep saying: Obama has no plans on any thing when it comes to PRO-ACTIVITY.
All he'd do is REACT to something, here and there and everywhere, when they pop up and make grandiose speeches about the need to defend democracy, American citizens and interests... with little more than a few dozen drone missiles a day, here and there...
Again, MY PSEUDO SUN TZU strategy ---- assuming America is willing to do some serious shit there, again.. and if not, then we should get the fuck out of there 100% --- is to use 5,000 to 8,000 special ops forces, in small and mobile units, to PREVENT THE EASY MOVEMENTS of Al Qaida, ISIS, etc., so as to allow LOCAL FORCES to go into the already taken towns and cities and fight it out, between LOCAL FORCES and ISIS/Al Qaida.
Local forces are not good ONLY WHEN THEY ARE OUT-MANEUVERED by small but persistent Islamists who move fluidly from one town and city to another, to send in support and re-enforcement. Local forces don't have the capability to deal with such maneuvers of these Islamist groups.
That's were America's supreme lateral and VERTICAL ability should come into play, OUT OF THE WAY OF LOCAL CITIZENS AND TOWNS AND CITIES.
The objective of these 5,000 to 8,000 SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCES is merely to PREVENT THE EASE OF MOVEMENTS of ISIS and other Islamists, from one town to another, using clearly known roads cutting through incredibly inhospitable deserts that MOST PEOPLE CAN'T MAKE IT OUT ALIVE, if they were to venture into them with little to no food and water, and all they do is just walk.
Most the Middle East is not Southeast Asia or Latin and South America, where dense jungles and tall mountains, with fresh foods to be had in the wild, could hide large rebel and terrorists groups for months and years... In the ME, you must get from ONE TWO OR CITY TO ANOTHER within a few hours, if you want to stay alive, and you must do that through mostly cars, trucks, or other fast means, NOT WALKING THROUGH THE DESERTS FOR HOURS AND DAYS...
Sure, ISIS and other small Islamist groups COULD focus on attacking these small but highly mobile American and Western SPECIAL OPS FORCES in the desert; but that means the towns and cities ISIS and Islamists have already captured are DEFENSELESS, and they could be more easily RE-TAKEN BY LOCAL SYRIAN AND IRAQI FORCES!
And out there in the Deserts of the Middle East, where citizen deaths are MINIMIZED, America's ability to move laterally and VERTICALLY at any moment's notices, for TENS to HUNDREDS OF MILES in radius would easily stop small ISIS and Islamist groups from organizing effective strategies and tactics to take towns and cities!
Her Lao
Apr 2, 2015, 4:01:51 AM4/2/15
to
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/01/islamic-state-al-qaeda_n_6989422.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592
Doing something serious and doing it badly wrong (Bush) is usually not judged as harshly as doing very little or doing nothing at all (Obama), and watching a bad thing get worse and worse, like it is with the Islamic movement in the Middle East, where the world literally watch on a daily and weekly basis, dozens to hundreds of people being decapitated and the USA and Western Europe just mostly fold their arms across their chests, shake their heads and do little to nothing... even when their own citizens are among those paraded on YouTube and then decapitated.
Obama will, therefore, likely be judged more harshly in the future than Bush Jr.
Notice that Obama used the metaphor a "cancer" to describe ISIS.
But if you have described something as a terminally dangerous violent and heinous group, that decapitates and displays severed heads in public squares in all cities they conquer, and have no plan, no willingness to do substantive things about the "cancer," you must know others WILL JUDGE YOU HARSHLY... in a situation like this, where the CANCER IS SPREADING beyond the immediate Middle East, into northern and central Africa and farther into south Asia and elsewhere, in central as well as southeast Asia...
Bombing "cleanly" from 50,000 feet up won't "dismantle" much less "destroy" ISIS, although the video-game-like YouTube clips the Pentagon releases are indeed really entertaining...
Doing something serious and doing it badly wrong (Bush) is usually not judged as harshly as doing very little or doing nothing at all (Obama), and watching a bad thing get worse and worse, like it is with the Islamic movement in the Middle East, where the world literally watch on a daily and weekly basis, dozens to hundreds of people being decapitated and the USA and Western Europe just mostly fold their arms across their chests, shake their heads and do little to nothing... even when their own citizens are among those paraded on YouTube and then decapitated.
Obama will, therefore, likely be judged more harshly in the future than Bush Jr.
Notice that Obama used the metaphor a "cancer" to describe ISIS.
But if you have described something as a terminally dangerous violent and heinous group, that decapitates and displays severed heads in public squares in all cities they conquer, and have no plan, no willingness to do substantive things about the "cancer," you must know others WILL JUDGE YOU HARSHLY... in a situation like this, where the CANCER IS SPREADING beyond the immediate Middle East, into northern and central Africa and farther into south Asia and elsewhere, in central as well as southeast Asia...
Bombing "cleanly" from 50,000 feet up won't "dismantle" much less "destroy" ISIS, although the video-game-like YouTube clips the Pentagon releases are indeed really entertaining...
Her Lao
Apr 3, 2015, 1:09:50 AM4/3/15
to
http://news.yahoo.com/al-qaida-frees-300-inmates-yemeni-jail-094800641.html
The accelerated expansion of extreme Islamist, both ISIS and Al-Qaida, in the Middle East and beyond... As Obama and his arm chair commanders drop a few bombs a day, from 50,000 feet up, in their mission to "degrade and destroy" the said 7th century wannabe, extremist Islamists...
The accelerated expansion of extreme Islamist, both ISIS and Al-Qaida, in the Middle East and beyond... As Obama and his arm chair commanders drop a few bombs a day, from 50,000 feet up, in their mission to "degrade and destroy" the said 7th century wannabe, extremist Islamists...
little FAT BigFOOT,BigHEAD2
Apr 3, 2015, 12:46:24 PM4/3/15
to
On Friday, April 3, 2015 at 12:09:50 AM UTC-5, Her Lao wrote:
> http://news.yahoo.com/al-qaida-frees-300-inmates-yemeni-jail-094800641.html
>
> The accelerated expansion of extreme Islamist, both ISIS and Al-Qaida, in the Middle East and beyond... As Obama and his arm chair commanders drop a few bombs a day, from 50,000 feet up, in their mission to "degrade and destroy" the said 7th century wannabe, extremist Islamists...
do not worry usa WILL SOON PACK THEIR BAGS AND GO HOME JUST LIKE THE VIETNAM WAR IN 1966-1974. TOO MUCH SANDS. TOO HOT. OF COURSE NO BEER & ICE COLD WATER.
> http://news.yahoo.com/al-qaida-frees-300-inmates-yemeni-jail-094800641.html
>
> The accelerated expansion of extreme Islamist, both ISIS and Al-Qaida, in the Middle East and beyond... As Obama and his arm chair commanders drop a few bombs a day, from 50,000 feet up, in their mission to "degrade and destroy" the said 7th century wannabe, extremist Islamists...
Her Lao
Apr 17, 2015, 1:07:46 AM4/17/15
to
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/04/16/middleeast/iraq-isis/index.html
Remember, I am with John McCain on this, just this... not on bombing Iran, or bombing Libya, or bombing or nuking North Korea, etc.
If ISIS is a "cancer" and it looks to be a very deadly, since he has captured hundreds of towns and cities across both Syria and Iraq, and it's popped up all over north Africa as well... and, so, again, if the diagnosis is that ISIS is a deadly cancer and it must be removed, then doing a few dozen bombing flights, using a few F-15s, F-16s, Rafaels, and old Typhoons a month, from 30,000 to 50,000 feet up in the air.... is NOT gonna "destroy "or "dismantle" is... since it is a very FLUID organization that can pop up here and there using small units of 7th century wannab primitives, with modern, 21st century AK-47s and American made weapons and armored vehicles to terrorize people with...
You got to be on the GROUND.
So, the only way to avoid a CLASSICAL INVASION or OCCUPATION dilemma is to do as I argue: the deployment of SMALL, HIGHLY MOBILE SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCES all over in the desert across Syria and Iraq, dozens to hundreds of miles AWAY FROM TOWNS AND CITIES, focusing on IMPORTANT CROSS-ROADS AND JUNCTURES that even ISIS must use, in order to haul their asses and weapons, for both invading towns and cities as well as for supply and re-enforcement purposes...
Again, ISIS could only move LATERALLY, not vertically, since they have NO FLYING AIRCRAFT of any kind... and even laterally, they CAN NOT, in the inhospitable Middle East, go anywhere they want.
They MUST go through a certain highway and freeway and small roads... in order to get from place A to place B.... the Middle East is NOT like tropical/juncle Africa, Latin and South America, and Southeast Asia, where thousands to tens of thousands of guerillas could hide and survive for years, as they travel slowly undectable through deep and covered valleys, jungles, plains lush with drinking water, fruits, edible vegetation, crop lands, etc.
Remember, I am with John McCain on this, just this... not on bombing Iran, or bombing Libya, or bombing or nuking North Korea, etc.
If ISIS is a "cancer" and it looks to be a very deadly, since he has captured hundreds of towns and cities across both Syria and Iraq, and it's popped up all over north Africa as well... and, so, again, if the diagnosis is that ISIS is a deadly cancer and it must be removed, then doing a few dozen bombing flights, using a few F-15s, F-16s, Rafaels, and old Typhoons a month, from 30,000 to 50,000 feet up in the air.... is NOT gonna "destroy "or "dismantle" is... since it is a very FLUID organization that can pop up here and there using small units of 7th century wannab primitives, with modern, 21st century AK-47s and American made weapons and armored vehicles to terrorize people with...
You got to be on the GROUND.
So, the only way to avoid a CLASSICAL INVASION or OCCUPATION dilemma is to do as I argue: the deployment of SMALL, HIGHLY MOBILE SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCES all over in the desert across Syria and Iraq, dozens to hundreds of miles AWAY FROM TOWNS AND CITIES, focusing on IMPORTANT CROSS-ROADS AND JUNCTURES that even ISIS must use, in order to haul their asses and weapons, for both invading towns and cities as well as for supply and re-enforcement purposes...
Again, ISIS could only move LATERALLY, not vertically, since they have NO FLYING AIRCRAFT of any kind... and even laterally, they CAN NOT, in the inhospitable Middle East, go anywhere they want.
They MUST go through a certain highway and freeway and small roads... in order to get from place A to place B.... the Middle East is NOT like tropical/juncle Africa, Latin and South America, and Southeast Asia, where thousands to tens of thousands of guerillas could hide and survive for years, as they travel slowly undectable through deep and covered valleys, jungles, plains lush with drinking water, fruits, edible vegetation, crop lands, etc.
Her Lao
Apr 20, 2015, 12:49:58 AM4/20/15
to
http://news.yahoo.com/us-slams-brutal-purported-massacre-ethiopian-christians-010732029.html
Of course, Obama and all of us could pretend THIS IS NOT the spreading of ISIS and their primitive, 7th century --- sorry, I mean their HOLY and DIVINE, 7th century --- goat and camel herding tribal COSMIC VIEW of Earth (where non-Islamists live... non-Islamists like Librals, Atheist, Buddhists, Hindus, Christians, Animists, et) and Paradise (where Allah lives and where they are going)..
Of course, Obama and all of us could pretend THIS IS NOT the spreading of ISIS and their primitive, 7th century --- sorry, I mean their HOLY and DIVINE, 7th century --- goat and camel herding tribal COSMIC VIEW of Earth (where non-Islamists live... non-Islamists like Librals, Atheist, Buddhists, Hindus, Christians, Animists, et) and Paradise (where Allah lives and where they are going)..
Her Lao
May 15, 2015, 9:18:06 PM5/15/15
to
Her Lao
May 16, 2015, 7:21:56 PM5/16/15
to
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/17/world/middleeast/abu-sayyaf-isis-commander-killed-by-us-forces-pentagon-says.html?_r=0
While Special Ops forces may be used like this, it is NOT the way I think would be successful in Obama, the Messiah,'s endeavor to destruct or to destroy ISIS and similar NON-ISLAMIC groups.
Raids, battles, etc. within towns and cities, as I see it, should be done mostly or entirely by LOCAL PEOPLE AND THEIR SOLIDIERS AND POLICE FORCES.
If America, and other countries from outside, want to put a stop to ISIS and other NON-ISLAMIC GROUPS terrorizing the MID EAST, make it next to impossible for them to move from A to B, and they will eventually crumble, from being defeated by LOCAL FORCES who know the people, the landscape, the town and city lay-outs, etc.
While Special Ops forces may be used like this, it is NOT the way I think would be successful in Obama, the Messiah,'s endeavor to destruct or to destroy ISIS and similar NON-ISLAMIC groups.
Raids, battles, etc. within towns and cities, as I see it, should be done mostly or entirely by LOCAL PEOPLE AND THEIR SOLIDIERS AND POLICE FORCES.
If America, and other countries from outside, want to put a stop to ISIS and other NON-ISLAMIC GROUPS terrorizing the MID EAST, make it next to impossible for them to move from A to B, and they will eventually crumble, from being defeated by LOCAL FORCES who know the people, the landscape, the town and city lay-outs, etc.
Her Lao
May 17, 2015, 8:54:55 PM5/17/15
to
http://www.smh.com.au/world/islamic-states-capture-of-ramadi-huge-setback-for-iraqi-government-20150518-gh3sum.html
There is one sole reason why, despite all the THOUSANDS of bombings by America and about a dozen other countries, half of which are Arab countries, ISIS is still able to take this or that substantial city across Iraq and/or Syria:
All they have to do is just AVOID assembling in large congregations, like they did before when they moved in dozens to hundreds of spanking brand new Toyota Tundras, from one city to another, IN THE OPEN.
Today, they STILL do that, more or less with LITTLE to NO interference, so long as they don't do it in obviously large groups, which are easily seen by American satellites and drones. But they still plan and carry out their town and city conquest, from one part of Iraq and Syria, to another, VIA HIGHWAYS AND FREEWAYS that COULD EASILY BE CHOKED OFF and MADE IMPASSIBLE BUT ARE NOT, because neither Obama nor the Iraqis are serious or bright enough to come up with the TACTICS to defeat ISIS.
And we are talking about JUST ISIS, not Al Nusra and its parent organization, Al Qaida, all of which are now sort of competing against one another, for the base of extreme Islamists. That means, once al Nusra and its parent organization Al Qaida are also working in sync with ISIS, in expansion, it would so much more difficult than just trying to stop ISIS alone.
That means, then, that Obama and his folks, as well as Arab nations, as well as European folks are NOT REALLY THAT SERIOUS about stopping ISIS, much less destroying it...
There is one sole reason why, despite all the THOUSANDS of bombings by America and about a dozen other countries, half of which are Arab countries, ISIS is still able to take this or that substantial city across Iraq and/or Syria:
All they have to do is just AVOID assembling in large congregations, like they did before when they moved in dozens to hundreds of spanking brand new Toyota Tundras, from one city to another, IN THE OPEN.
Today, they STILL do that, more or less with LITTLE to NO interference, so long as they don't do it in obviously large groups, which are easily seen by American satellites and drones. But they still plan and carry out their town and city conquest, from one part of Iraq and Syria, to another, VIA HIGHWAYS AND FREEWAYS that COULD EASILY BE CHOKED OFF and MADE IMPASSIBLE BUT ARE NOT, because neither Obama nor the Iraqis are serious or bright enough to come up with the TACTICS to defeat ISIS.
And we are talking about JUST ISIS, not Al Nusra and its parent organization, Al Qaida, all of which are now sort of competing against one another, for the base of extreme Islamists. That means, once al Nusra and its parent organization Al Qaida are also working in sync with ISIS, in expansion, it would so much more difficult than just trying to stop ISIS alone.
That means, then, that Obama and his folks, as well as Arab nations, as well as European folks are NOT REALLY THAT SERIOUS about stopping ISIS, much less destroying it...
Her Lao
May 17, 2015, 9:08:44 PM5/17/15
to
http://news.yahoo.com/iraqs-ramadi-falls-u-help-baghdad-back-later-231702311.html
Reacting to what others do, and always wait until what they have already done something BEFORE you react, is never a good way to conduct foreign policies, much less a good, cogent way to project military power...
Anyone or group that has 10-30,000 fanatic fighters could, in such a situation, DICDTATE to even the most powerful nations on earth, because they, as small groups, are always in the driver's seat: they may not win in every engagement; but they still drive the conflicts, by choosing where to attack, when to attack, and how much resources to spend there, go draw in large organized resistance, BEFORE MOVING ON TO A DIFFERENT TARGET, etc.
The fact of the matter is, with Toyota Trucks, powerful IEDs, machine guns, anti-aircraft, anti-armor vehicles, Google maps, etc., you don't need to have large groups of many thousands to attack and to win over a town of 10,000 to 1-2 Million people. All you need are several HUNDREDS hard core fighters, using IEDs, suicide car bombs to cause major damage and chaos, and MOST civilians will either run away or bow to you; and once you're inside a sizeable town or city, with tens of thousands of civilians, it is VERY DIFFICULT for even very well armed powerful standing-army formation to come in and win, even if you have no more than a couple hundred to a few thousand, at most...
All you have to do is spread your hardcore fighters among the populations, like ISIS has done in Mosul this whole year.
The trick again, therefore, is to MAKE IT EXTREMELY DIFFICULT, if not impossible, for them to move using fast Toyota trucks, along well traveled roads, from one town and city to another, even just with a couple trucks, with a few dozen fighters.
Her Lao
May 18, 2015, 5:48:43 PM5/18/15
to
Her Lao
May 18, 2015, 8:13:35 PM5/18/15
to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRh_sZU1lZ4
Again, if you look at the video clips of CARS, filled with hundreds to thousands of HAPPY, CELEBRATIVE citizens, with ISIS flags parading through downtown MOSUL, ISIS capital, you come to one conclusion:
Although a lot of citizens are being ruled against their will, there, there are thousands and perhaps hundreds of thousands (Mosul is supposed to be around 1-2M citizens) who are actively supporting ISIS.
That means even if you put an encirclement-stop to a town/city like MOSUL and RAMADI, with DOZENS of SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCES cutting-off every entrance and exit to those cities, where ANYONE WHO APPROACH THE SPECIAL OPS are immediately liquidated, with plenty of leaflets dropped everywhere, there WILL BE LITTLE TO NO MOVEMENT, OR COMMUNICATION, OR RE-ENFORCEMENT activities by ISIS, even if they want to go from point A to point B, in order to do their conquests and their re-supply (food and men).
Again, if you stationed heavily equipped, LATERALLY and VERTICALLY mobile, units of SPECIAL OPS OUTSIDE OF TOWNS AND CITIES === making sure there is absolutely no movements through major NODES in the deserts of Iraq, making sure that ISIS will more or less have to rely on only fighters ALREADY IN WHATEVER TOWN OR CITY THEY CONTROL, with no re-enforcement of men and guns and IED trucks, etc., from OTHER PARTS of Iraq === and allow the Iraqis police, militia, and armed forces to focus SOLELY in fighting against ISIS in the towns and cities the 7th century wannabe Islamists currently control, you could within a few months STARVE ISIS to submission.
But if the approach is OBAMA selected approach of 2 to 15 missiles or bombs, PER DAY, from 50,000 feet up... all ISIS has to do is, again, NOT to travel in large group, not gather in large group, and THEY CAN STILL DO WHATEVER THEY DID PREVIOUSLY, using fast Toyota trucks... for transport and for suicide bombing, to terrorize the local police, army, and population.
As ISIS has shown, just now, the last a couple days... that if you use a dozen to two dozens or so fast trucks to do suicide bombing, targeting against check points, police headquarters, and military posts.... in a coordinated effort to magnify the IMPACT.... you can scare the fuck out of everyone, even if you use no more than a few dozen to a few hundred fighters going against many thousands of Iraqi soldiers and police... and tens of thousands of civilians...
BTW, there should be NO PERSON MANNING CHECK POINTS: there should be carefully constructed SPIKE systems, in staggering formation, leading in and out of towns and cities, with the "check-points" being equipped with nothing but cameras and electronics, with those supervising them staying hundreds of feet away from those stopping areas where ISIS WILL EXPLODE THEIR IED trucks....
Travelers who are not butt naked should have their vehicles being disable and destroyed immediately via those spikes.... wherever vehicles are even allowed and that should be non-existence once the OPERATIONS ARE IN PROGRESS....
In very grave situations, very arbitrarily harsh IMPOSITION by the authorities must be done.
And if anyone doesn't think the situation in the Middle East right now, especially in Syria and Iraq, are not very grave situations... then they are also correctly saying, not so oddly, that we are just wasting BILLIONS OF DOLLARS every month, doing these totally wasteful missile and bomb dropping there, activities that requiring MANY DOZENS of fighter jets, flying tankers, aircraft carrier and battle groups, and many THSOUANDS of soldiers and SUPPORTING personnel...
Again, this is one of the extremely few times I am totally with John McCain.
If you are going to use US military, then do it whole-heartedly, seeking out the OPINIONS of top officers who are well versed in BATTLE TACTICS, and give them the support they need.
Obama, a lawyer from the University of Chicago, who has no idea about wars or battles or military tactics .... running a war like this --- even if you don't call it a war, because Obama FANTASIZES he's not conducting one, since on papers, there's no war he's fighting, legally --- it is a wasteful and ineffective strategy.
Obama ALREADY says this war don't end when his term ends in a year; so he's really just "kicking the IMAGINARY CAN --- it's a real can of worms but he fantasizes that it is only an imaginary one in the heads of OTHERS who don't like him! --- down the road.
He's already shirking responsibility. I don't care how "cool" the guy looks. The guy clearly is not in his element; but he still demands to be the commander in chief in the briefing room, from start to finish.
That's no way to conduct an effective war!
FDR, in the 1940s, didn't have military experience, either; but he had Eisenhower to lean on. Eisenhower may not be the most talented field officer, but he, in turn, had extremely capable commanders under him, like Bradley and Patton and Bloody Brit Montgomery, to rely on, when it comes to battlefield activities...
Obama is dictating this war from his office: "No boots on the ground, until I say so, and I say no boots on the ground."
There's no way to win a war that way. Telling the enemies what you're going, OR NOT GOING, to do in terms of fighting tactics... and telling them ahead of time ... is NO WAY TO FIGHT A WAR.
Again, if you look at the video clips of CARS, filled with hundreds to thousands of HAPPY, CELEBRATIVE citizens, with ISIS flags parading through downtown MOSUL, ISIS capital, you come to one conclusion:
Although a lot of citizens are being ruled against their will, there, there are thousands and perhaps hundreds of thousands (Mosul is supposed to be around 1-2M citizens) who are actively supporting ISIS.
That means even if you put an encirclement-stop to a town/city like MOSUL and RAMADI, with DOZENS of SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCES cutting-off every entrance and exit to those cities, where ANYONE WHO APPROACH THE SPECIAL OPS are immediately liquidated, with plenty of leaflets dropped everywhere, there WILL BE LITTLE TO NO MOVEMENT, OR COMMUNICATION, OR RE-ENFORCEMENT activities by ISIS, even if they want to go from point A to point B, in order to do their conquests and their re-supply (food and men).
Again, if you stationed heavily equipped, LATERALLY and VERTICALLY mobile, units of SPECIAL OPS OUTSIDE OF TOWNS AND CITIES === making sure there is absolutely no movements through major NODES in the deserts of Iraq, making sure that ISIS will more or less have to rely on only fighters ALREADY IN WHATEVER TOWN OR CITY THEY CONTROL, with no re-enforcement of men and guns and IED trucks, etc., from OTHER PARTS of Iraq === and allow the Iraqis police, militia, and armed forces to focus SOLELY in fighting against ISIS in the towns and cities the 7th century wannabe Islamists currently control, you could within a few months STARVE ISIS to submission.
But if the approach is OBAMA selected approach of 2 to 15 missiles or bombs, PER DAY, from 50,000 feet up... all ISIS has to do is, again, NOT to travel in large group, not gather in large group, and THEY CAN STILL DO WHATEVER THEY DID PREVIOUSLY, using fast Toyota trucks... for transport and for suicide bombing, to terrorize the local police, army, and population.
As ISIS has shown, just now, the last a couple days... that if you use a dozen to two dozens or so fast trucks to do suicide bombing, targeting against check points, police headquarters, and military posts.... in a coordinated effort to magnify the IMPACT.... you can scare the fuck out of everyone, even if you use no more than a few dozen to a few hundred fighters going against many thousands of Iraqi soldiers and police... and tens of thousands of civilians...
BTW, there should be NO PERSON MANNING CHECK POINTS: there should be carefully constructed SPIKE systems, in staggering formation, leading in and out of towns and cities, with the "check-points" being equipped with nothing but cameras and electronics, with those supervising them staying hundreds of feet away from those stopping areas where ISIS WILL EXPLODE THEIR IED trucks....
Travelers who are not butt naked should have their vehicles being disable and destroyed immediately via those spikes.... wherever vehicles are even allowed and that should be non-existence once the OPERATIONS ARE IN PROGRESS....
In very grave situations, very arbitrarily harsh IMPOSITION by the authorities must be done.
And if anyone doesn't think the situation in the Middle East right now, especially in Syria and Iraq, are not very grave situations... then they are also correctly saying, not so oddly, that we are just wasting BILLIONS OF DOLLARS every month, doing these totally wasteful missile and bomb dropping there, activities that requiring MANY DOZENS of fighter jets, flying tankers, aircraft carrier and battle groups, and many THSOUANDS of soldiers and SUPPORTING personnel...
Again, this is one of the extremely few times I am totally with John McCain.
If you are going to use US military, then do it whole-heartedly, seeking out the OPINIONS of top officers who are well versed in BATTLE TACTICS, and give them the support they need.
Obama, a lawyer from the University of Chicago, who has no idea about wars or battles or military tactics .... running a war like this --- even if you don't call it a war, because Obama FANTASIZES he's not conducting one, since on papers, there's no war he's fighting, legally --- it is a wasteful and ineffective strategy.
Obama ALREADY says this war don't end when his term ends in a year; so he's really just "kicking the IMAGINARY CAN --- it's a real can of worms but he fantasizes that it is only an imaginary one in the heads of OTHERS who don't like him! --- down the road.
He's already shirking responsibility. I don't care how "cool" the guy looks. The guy clearly is not in his element; but he still demands to be the commander in chief in the briefing room, from start to finish.
That's no way to conduct an effective war!
FDR, in the 1940s, didn't have military experience, either; but he had Eisenhower to lean on. Eisenhower may not be the most talented field officer, but he, in turn, had extremely capable commanders under him, like Bradley and Patton and Bloody Brit Montgomery, to rely on, when it comes to battlefield activities...
Obama is dictating this war from his office: "No boots on the ground, until I say so, and I say no boots on the ground."
There's no way to win a war that way. Telling the enemies what you're going, OR NOT GOING, to do in terms of fighting tactics... and telling them ahead of time ... is NO WAY TO FIGHT A WAR.
Her Lao
May 19, 2015, 4:13:41 PM5/19/15
to
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/top-democrat-sounds-alarm-bells-over-obama-119369403841.html
The spokesman responded that 60 countries were part of the coalition to beat back ISIL, and cited as evidence of progress in the campaign the fact that the United States and partner nations have carried out 3,900 airstrikes, including 2,400 in Iraq and about 1,500 in Syria.
"We've taken out thousands of ISIL's fighters in over 6,000 specific ISIL targets, including numerous commanders. We've taken out thousands of ISIL's fighters, numerous commander, over 1,700 vehicles and tanks, over 170 artillery and mortar positions, nearly 4,000 fighting positions, checkpoints, buildings, bunkers, staging areas, and barracks. Airstrikes have also [damaged] over 150 oil and gas facilities," Schultz said.
+++++++++++++++++
These direct quotes above here, in terms of their numbers, SOUND VERY IMPRESSIVE.
But if you FLIPPED THE WHOLE THING UPSIDE DOWN in terms of your assessment and ask yourself this question:
How in the world is 60 of the world's MOST POWERFUL NATIONS, in terms of military prowess, engaging in the bombing of a SMALL GROUP of fighters, in ISIS or DAESH, numbering no more than 20-30,000, for a whole year, bombing them AT WILL, with virtual impunity, and ISIS --- which, by the way, IS ALSO FIGHTING OTHER TERROR GROUPS like Al Qaida and Sunni tribes and Syrian rebels and KURDS! --- is still able to OPENLY CONQUER the LARGEST PROVINCE IN IRAQ and the province CAPITAL, Ramada?
When you ask THAT ONE QUESTION, you know that the numbers (in terms of deaths to ISIS, targets destroyed, etc., as listed above here by the Obama folks), HAD TO BE WAY OFF.
And that's easy to explain: put yourself in ISIS leaders place: If you could only move LATERALLY across the desert. You had no access to air transport; and you also CAN NOT assemble large contingencies of fighters, as you move across Syria and Iraq, from one town and city to another, since large assembles of fighters WILL GUARANTEE a missile strike almost immediately.... what are the TACTICS you must employ and deploy, to both move from one town and city to another, AS WELL AS to safeguard your assets?
You remember that during WWII, when General George Patton, America's most able commander (but a man of viciousness and anti-social nature), SLAPPED A SOLDIER at the hospital, when he visited wounded soldiers and that soldier, being shell shocked, was unable to compose himself.
And for that extremely serious offense, Patton was temporarily taken-off the military planning inner circle. He was almost fired; but since Patton was such a cold-blooded and calculated killer and commander, supreme commander General Dwight Eisenhower decided to put Patton in charge of something TOTALLY BOGUS: to assemble a giant contingent of troops and armory like it was real, to distract German spies...
It's all plastic dummies of tanks, aircrafts, boats, ships, etc. by the beach, with hundreds of REAL SOLDIERS GUARDING THE ACTIVITIES, as if it's all real.
Well, BACK TO THE ISIS STORY HERE:
If you're ISIS leaders, won't you be doing the same thing, when YOU KNOW your enemies --- these 60 powerful nations who have access to hundreds of satellites, F-15s, F-16s, F-18s, Rafales, Typhoons, Gripens, etc. --- could AND would BOMB YOU any time THEY THINK THEY SEE SERIOUS ACTIVITIES on the ground?
Yes! That means you simply use CAPTURE ENMIES (Syrians, Iraqis, Kurds, and local civilians) and STAGE THEM in fields and make them drag fake equipments, plastic trucks and tranks, etc. AS IF THEY'RE REALLY DOING REAL ACTIVITIES, GETTING READY TO MOVE such equipments, or digging bomb shelters, or building infrastructures, etc.
And to REALLY FOOL America and the West and other Arab planes, you make sure there are ACTUAL EXPLOSIVES hidden in those dummies your slaves are dragging this or that way, in those staging areas... so that when fighter jets bomb from 50,000 feet up, THERE ARE ACTUAL EXPLOSIONS GOING OFF... to fool your enemies they'd gotten your precious bombs, missiles, and other weapons assets!
It don't take genius to think and to do such things, really!
And THAT IS EXACTLY what ISIS has been engaging in, with America and its coalition of 60 advanced countries which ALMOST NEVER TOUCH THE GROUNS in Syria or Iraq, except for tiny and insignificant special ops forces activities like this, once or twice a year.
That means A LOT --- if not most; and I will go so far as to say 50% if not more --- OF those "over 6,000 ISIS targets" that America & Co wasted VERY EXPESNIVE BOMBS AND MISSILES ON were nothing but cheaply constructed IED dummies strategically and tactically placed to DIVERT and to WASTE America and Co's resources.
Again, as ZUN-TZU said: you must use your opponent's STRENGTH against them! As a small fighting force, you must be nimble, stealth, clever, and proactive. You must TAKE INITIVES and NOT wait for your superior opponents to hit you first and then react. You must always come up with ideas to FOOL them; you must always be on the move.
Again, you don't need to be Sun=Tzu to fool powerful enemies, like Obama's forces, ESPECIALLY WHEN OBAMA & CO have already TOLD YOU IN THE OPEN, what they are going to do and what THEY ARE NOT GOING TO DO in the fighting!
Her Lao
May 20, 2015, 11:20:38 PM5/20/15
to
Her Lao
May 21, 2015, 1:41:32 AM5/21/15
to
On Wednesday, May 20, 2015 at 10:20:38 PM UTC-5, Her Lao wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN-B2AkYAsc
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-32820857
After almost one whole year, of having targeted and destroyed, according to Obama's own account, 6,000 targets worthy of one or multiple missiles or bombs that cost, each, several tens of thousands to as much as multi-million, ISIS is ever deeper entrenched in Iraq's second largest city and is now, of yesterday to today, fully in control of Iraq's largest province.
I haven't checked, but the physical characteristic of the province abutting from Syria to almost the edge of Baghdad, LOOKS like it is about 1/3 of the totality of Iraq, in land mass, of course.
That is a very dry, sparsely populated province (over which many hundreds of American troops having died trying to defend it during BUSH war, which open the current Pandora's box... this can of UGLY WORMS we see spreading all over the Middle East, now that Strong Men Saddam and Gaddafi and Mubarack are no more, with the Assad family about to be toppled, too...
Anyway, today, just now, ISIS as well as Syria itself announced ISIS is also in total control of his desert UNESCO designated city.
This is what happens --- even if America HAVING ALREADY SPENT close to $20B dollars, if not more and I think it is likely more, although Congress and the Prez would NEVER tell the American public the real statistics --- when you go to war saying,
"Well, this is not really a war. No, it is a war. No it is not really a war. We are juts TRYING to degrade and destroy a terrorist organization. And we WILL DO IT WITHOUT TROOPS ON THE GROUND. Read my lips: No troops on the ground....
"But, don't worry, Kerry and Obama confidently say. These things take time... months and YEARS.... but we will eventual degrade and destroy these non-Islamic terrorist folks!"
Well, Obama IS THE MESSIAH, after all.
So I guess if he says something will come to pass --- even if he says it WON'T COME TO PASS UNDER HIS WATCH --- then we gotta trust him!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN-B2AkYAsc
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-32820857
After almost one whole year, of having targeted and destroyed, according to Obama's own account, 6,000 targets worthy of one or multiple missiles or bombs that cost, each, several tens of thousands to as much as multi-million, ISIS is ever deeper entrenched in Iraq's second largest city and is now, of yesterday to today, fully in control of Iraq's largest province.
I haven't checked, but the physical characteristic of the province abutting from Syria to almost the edge of Baghdad, LOOKS like it is about 1/3 of the totality of Iraq, in land mass, of course.
That is a very dry, sparsely populated province (over which many hundreds of American troops having died trying to defend it during BUSH war, which open the current Pandora's box... this can of UGLY WORMS we see spreading all over the Middle East, now that Strong Men Saddam and Gaddafi and Mubarack are no more, with the Assad family about to be toppled, too...
Anyway, today, just now, ISIS as well as Syria itself announced ISIS is also in total control of his desert UNESCO designated city.
This is what happens --- even if America HAVING ALREADY SPENT close to $20B dollars, if not more and I think it is likely more, although Congress and the Prez would NEVER tell the American public the real statistics --- when you go to war saying,
"Well, this is not really a war. No, it is a war. No it is not really a war. We are juts TRYING to degrade and destroy a terrorist organization. And we WILL DO IT WITHOUT TROOPS ON THE GROUND. Read my lips: No troops on the ground....
"But, don't worry, Kerry and Obama confidently say. These things take time... months and YEARS.... but we will eventual degrade and destroy these non-Islamic terrorist folks!"
Well, Obama IS THE MESSIAH, after all.
So I guess if he says something will come to pass --- even if he says it WON'T COME TO PASS UNDER HIS WATCH --- then we gotta trust him!
Her Lao
May 21, 2015, 5:45:52 AM5/21/15
to
On Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 12:41:32 AM UTC-5, Her Lao wrote:
On Wednesday, May 20, 2015 at 10:20:38 PM UTC-5, Her Lao wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN-B2AkYAsc
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-32820857
http://news.yahoo.com/islamic-states-egypt-affiliate-urges-attacks-judges-recording-070955248.html
On Wednesday, May 20, 2015 at 10:20:38 PM UTC-5, Her Lao wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN-B2AkYAsc
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-32820857
It is clear Kerry and Obama are living in la-la-land, since after close to 1 year of dropping 2-20 bombs and missiles DAILY on ISIS, it is spreading into other parts of the world.
Please, note that Kerry and Obama have touted that there's a coalition of the willing, numbering around "60 countries" fighting ISIS with America.
Below here is a SHORT list of the MOST POWERFUL nations fighting ISIS, since they fly modern fighter jets like F-15s, F-16s, F-18s, F-22s, Gripens, Rafales, Typhoons, etc.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/09/world/meast/isis-coalition-nations/
And, then, there's also SYRIA and KURDS and IRAN and ISRAEL (although Israel does not report to anyone, since it does what it wants, when it wants, in and around the Mid East)...
If you have "60 nations" fighting ISIS, an organization which numbers only between around 20,000 and 30,000 or so... and you bomb it AT WILL and after close to a WHOLE YEAR it is still able to take more and more towns and cities, you have to be living in la-la-land to be thinking: "Don't worry, despite what it seems, we are actually winning.... but it will, of course, take years..."
Anyway, I like what former national security advisor RICHARD CLARKE, in THE LAST WORD WITH LAWRENCE O'DENNELL said:
If we don't think ISIS is that terribly important or scary, as a terrorist group, then we shouldn't pay attention to it. Leave it be, since it doesn't concern or scare us.
On the other hand, if our mantra after 9/11 is still to be believed === and that is that we dont' leave terrorists to have safe sanctuaries so they could plan to hurt or kill us === then we SHOULD NOT TIE ONE HANDS BEHIND OUR BACKS, like Obama does, and TELL THEM:
"Here, look, one of my hands is tied, securely behind my back, and I will use ONLY ONE HAND to fight you.
"I just wanted you, ISIS, to know I am playing fair; I will never do anything out-and-out against you, although I don't think you are very nice, as you cut heads off of people left and right, destroying monuments and other historical treasures that go back many thousands of years BEFORE Islam's invention in the 7th century..."
Her Lao
May 21, 2015, 3:15:45 PM5/21/15
to
http://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2015/03/17/orig-wedeman-isis-antiquities.cnn
This is what happens, when you allow illiterate men who know nothing and who want to know nothing but some 7th century gibberish about some man on a WINGED HORSE.... when you allow them to run around, pretending they are NOT of this earth, not a part of humanity, and they popped out on earth, from thin air, since only the 7th century, when the WINGED HORSE MAN came down, sent by "the Creator of the Universe" (aka Allah), and settled in Mecca, Saudi Arabia.
Communism, Communists, and other such "correct ideology" ruling doctrines and their subscribers (Lao, Chinese, Vietnamese, Cubans, and North Koreans... since few, if any, Europeans still believe in or practice COMMUNISM as a ruling doctrine, since they are much more educated than Asians)... they also do these sorts of things ---- by ignoring all of their past, except what communism has done since the late 1800s to 1900s --- but at least Communism and Communists have NOT gotten out their sickles and hammers and bulldozers, like these non-Islamic (per Obama & Co) folks, and destroyed standing ancient monuments, ancient texts, ancient ruins, etc., and pretend that history only began since the founding of Communism by Lenin, Stalin, and other European comrades, etc...
Her Lao
May 21, 2015, 3:33:31 PM5/21/15
to
Her Lao
May 21, 2015, 6:05:27 PM5/21/15
to
On Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 4:45:52 AM UTC-5, Her Lao wrote:
> On Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 12:41:32 AM UTC-5, Her Lao wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 20, 2015 at 10:20:38 PM UTC-5, Her Lao wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN-B2AkYAsc
> http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-32820857
>
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/islamic-states-egypt-affiliate-urges-attacks-judges-recording-070955248.html
>
> It is clear Kerry and Obama are living in la-la-land, since after close to 1 year of dropping 2-20 bombs and missiles DAILY on ISIS, it is spreading into other parts of the world.
>
> Please, note that Kerry and Obama have touted that there's a coalition of the willing, numbering around "60 countries" fighting ISIS with America.
>
> Below here is a SHORT list of the MOST POWERFUL nations fighting ISIS, since they fly modern fighter jets like F-15s, F-16s, F-18s, F-22s, Gripens, Rafales, Typhoons, etc.
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/09/world/meast/isis-coalition-nations/
>
> And, then, there's also SYRIA and KURDS and IRAN and ISRAEL (although Israel does not report to anyone, since it does what it wants, when it wants, in and around the Mid East)...
++++++++++++++
> On Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 12:41:32 AM UTC-5, Her Lao wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 20, 2015 at 10:20:38 PM UTC-5, Her Lao wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN-B2AkYAsc
> http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-32820857
>
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/islamic-states-egypt-affiliate-urges-attacks-judges-recording-070955248.html
>
> It is clear Kerry and Obama are living in la-la-land, since after close to 1 year of dropping 2-20 bombs and missiles DAILY on ISIS, it is spreading into other parts of the world.
>
> Please, note that Kerry and Obama have touted that there's a coalition of the willing, numbering around "60 countries" fighting ISIS with America.
>
> Below here is a SHORT list of the MOST POWERFUL nations fighting ISIS, since they fly modern fighter jets like F-15s, F-16s, F-18s, F-22s, Gripens, Rafales, Typhoons, etc.
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/09/world/meast/isis-coalition-nations/
>
> And, then, there's also SYRIA and KURDS and IRAN and ISRAEL (although Israel does not report to anyone, since it does what it wants, when it wants, in and around the Mid East)...
Add Mother, or is that Father?, Russia to the voluntary "coalition of the able and willing," too!
http://news.yahoo.com/russia-ready-help-iraq-defeat-islamic-state-lavrov-133246925.html
If you added China and India into the "coalition," too, then we're talking about roughly 99% of the people of the world fighting, in one capacity or another, against DAESH or ISIS... which consists, per the CIA and other such "intelligent" agencies, no more than 20,000 to 30,000 or, at most, 40,000 fighters.
I don't want to do a Conservative Republican thing, where they think Putin is actually a better leader and a MORE DEMOCRATIC one than the Messiah, Obama... but if any fighting people deserve neutral admiration of some strange type, then ISIS surely is that fighting group.
Despite close to 10,000 major missile hits and bomb drops, on them, they manage to control around 1/2 of Syria and more than 1/2, in reality, of Iraq.
And when the Messiah, Kenyan-born Islamist Barack Obama, started bombing ISIS last August, ISIS was not in control nearly 1/2 of Iraq and 1/2 of Syria.
But they are today, 10 plus months into the Messiah's "smart, pin prick" bombing from 50,000 feet up.
But our Messiah says:
"Don't worry, America and the world. I have a plan to destroy and dismantle ISIS, this non-Islamic terror group. It will take YEARS AND YEARS, long after I am gone, but I have a plan to do dismantle and destroy ISIS. Don't you worry! Just trust me. I have a magical plan that doesn't require boots on the ground, as I've told ISIS from the outset..."
Our Messiah, Obama, is Sun-Tzu himself re-incarnated, so I totally trust him! Watch, within 2-5 years, if the US military and its coalition of the willing KEEP our Messiah's magical military strategy, ISIS will cry uncle and give up, after 50,000 targets have been hit! After all, if ISIS don't number more than 20,000 to 40,000 fighters, at most, AND YOU DROPPED 50,000 BOMBS and MISSILES on them, I mean, how many of the group is left, really?
That's the magic of our Commander in Chief!: --- dropping more smart bombs and missiles on the enemies than they had in individual fighters, and kill every single bad terrorist with each and every such mighty bomb and missile!
CASALAO
May 21, 2015, 7:36:12 PM5/21/15
to
this thread is misleading. i was expecting to see a discussion on tolstoy's great works like war and peace and anna karenina but ISIS?
but then again ISIS is about war and peace too so it's ok.
but then again ISIS is about war and peace too so it's ok.
Her Lao
May 22, 2015, 4:49:18 PM5/22/15
to
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/saudiarabia/11623319/Several-killed-and-injured-after-suicide-bomber-strikes-at-Saudi-Shia-mosque.html
Don't worry... we are winning, despite these tiny setbacks! We will increase our intelligence on the ground, so we could drop more bombs and missiles on these non-Islamic ISIS folks.
+++++++++++++++++++++++
Remember, all this ranting pivots around my original and more serious, OUT OF THE BOX ARGUMENT that ISIS could be relatively easily defeated, if America, France, Britain, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Qatar, the AUE, and Turkey ---- let's, of course, PRETEND they actually wanted to defeat ISIS, as a source of vicious "cancer," to use our Messiah Obama's description --- used between 5,000 to 8,000 or so SPECIAL OPS FORCES, in small units of 100-200, staggering them across major JUNCTURES and NODES across Syria and Iraq, where THERE IS NO CIVILIZAN POPULATIONS...
We are talking about MANNING IMPORTANT CROSSROADS that everyone who can't move VERTALLY MUST GO THROUGH.
And the OBJECTIVE IS SIMPLE: NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO MOVE THROUGH, from one town or city, to another, using cars or trucks... for the duration of the campaign, which may last a few months.
If they wanted to hike across vast deserts, carrying things on their backs, that's okay! They just can't use any of the routes that vehicles could easily transport people and weapons through... It is NOT FAIR, true; but war is never a fair endeavor.
That's free TENS OF THOUSANDS of Syrians and Iraqis, even if they are NOT that well trained, or discipline, to fighting it out against ISIS in towns and cities across Syria and Iraq, where Syrian and Iraqis know best...
And if the WEST and well equipped Arabic and other Middle Eastern nations MANNING IMPORTANT CROSSROADS all over Syria and Iraqi --- which allows NO BODY TO TRAVEL THROUGH on any business whatsoever --- is not enough and Syrians and Iraqis, militia and regular armies, still can't defeat 20,000 to 40,000 ISIS... then let's just get the fuck away from the Mid East and allow ISIS to have their caliphate, since Allah OBVIOUSLY is with them, advising them, working against all the other Arab Muslims who are, there, fake ones.
That would be my conclusion: ---- if Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Jordan, IRAN, the AUE, the USA, Britain, France, and "60 other countries" working together STILL CAN'T DEFEAT ISIS, then you gotta agree with ISIS, whether you want to or not: and that is that they are WORKING WITH THE MAN FROM BEYOND THE OORT CLOUD and his holy Prophet, who rides a WINGED HORSE!
Her Lao
Jun 4, 2015, 12:58:05 AM6/4/15
to
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/03/middleeast/isis-conflict/index.html
Mr. Obama and his "coalition of the willing" have killed 10,000 bad terrorists!
And the terrorists are NOT SCARED!
Why not scared of mighty Americans? Because ISIS has MORE THAN REPLACED all those 10,000 deads! And they are EXANDING their conquests these last 11 or so months that Mr. Obama and "60 nation coalition" have bombing them, from 30-50,000 feet up, at will.
Logically, if the original estimate, about a year ago, of ISIS being no more than 20-30,000 or so, and you've killed 10,000, you've killed almost half of them, so logically speaking, if you kill that many of your enemies, they should not be able to expand and conquer lands, and convert TENS OF THOUSANDS more terrorists.
But they have done all those!
So, who has more credibility... Obama, who said HIS BOMBING from the air has been working, albeit slowly; and the real victory won't be for MANY MORE YEARS after he's gone from the White House?
Or ISIS, who says, We are expanding all the time, and we don't really worry about missiles and bombs dropped from 30-50,000 feet up, 'cuz we are working with Allah, the creator of the universe, who talks to us, who advises us, who guides our conquests, etc?
Mr. Obama and his "coalition of the willing" have killed 10,000 bad terrorists!
And the terrorists are NOT SCARED!
Why not scared of mighty Americans? Because ISIS has MORE THAN REPLACED all those 10,000 deads! And they are EXANDING their conquests these last 11 or so months that Mr. Obama and "60 nation coalition" have bombing them, from 30-50,000 feet up, at will.
Logically, if the original estimate, about a year ago, of ISIS being no more than 20-30,000 or so, and you've killed 10,000, you've killed almost half of them, so logically speaking, if you kill that many of your enemies, they should not be able to expand and conquer lands, and convert TENS OF THOUSANDS more terrorists.
But they have done all those!
So, who has more credibility... Obama, who said HIS BOMBING from the air has been working, albeit slowly; and the real victory won't be for MANY MORE YEARS after he's gone from the White House?
Or ISIS, who says, We are expanding all the time, and we don't really worry about missiles and bombs dropped from 30-50,000 feet up, 'cuz we are working with Allah, the creator of the universe, who talks to us, who advises us, who guides our conquests, etc?
Her Lao
Jun 11, 2015, 1:47:37 AM6/11/15
to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwansyvuimE
Latest batch of "advisors": 450. That means we currently have close to 5,000 soldiers committed to the Middle East in dealing specifically with ISIS. Whether or not everyone of those close to 5,000 soldiers and support personnel are there at one time, like at this very moment, is not the issues.
The reality is, Obama, despite his reluctance, has already committed, officially and openly, close to 5,000 Americans to the Mid East.
On THIS PBS NEWSHOUR interview, you should just skip listening to Leon Peneta, the former CIA chief under Obama. He doesn't make any sense, other than trying to sound smart.
You should listen to only the retired General, Zinni, and the retired Col., Bacevich. And Col. Bacevich didn't mince his words; nor did he pay too much deference to Leon Peneta, the former CIA chief. Bacevich IS EXACTLY RIGHT, and EXACTLY NEUTRAL, in his analysis:
To use more colorful and direct words in the paraphrasing of Col Bacevich: We fucked up big time by invading Iraq. So blaming Bush, OR BLAMING OBAMA, for this or that doesn't mean shit right now.
Right now, as the Col says and says SOUNDSLY, the question should be: do we believe that ISIS, right now and into the future (which Michele Flournoy, the fomer undersecretary woman will expand on momentarily), MUST BE DEALT WITH ("dismantle and destroy" is Obama magical phrase) in a conclusive manner?
Or do we think ISIS is not and likely will not be in some future time be a threat we can't ignore?
If the former, THE COLONEL SAYS, we stop telling ISIS, as Obama does every time he speaks on this issue, HOW we are going to fight them; what we are WILLING to do and what we ARE NOT WILLING to do; etc. Send in enough troops to CRUSH THEM right away. On this latter reflection, the GENERAL, ZINNI, expounded on nicely.
But if it is the latter --- that is, that we don't believe ISIS, despite is heinous activities right now in the Mid East --- and we don't think ISIS poses any real threat to America, then GET THE FUCK OUT OF THERE.
Because, as both former officers said: this SLOW, DRIP, DRIP, DRIP that Obama is doing... it is just ANOTHER WAY TO ANOTHER VIETNAM... but it is a dishonest, round-about sort of way.
Note: neither retired officer said it would be easy, if we send in ground troops. They fought in wars, so they KNOW better than anyone it WILL NOT BE EASY... not about defeating ISIS... THAT, they know is easy...
It is the EXTRICATION of thousands to tens of thousands of troops from the Middle East, again, that would be the hard part, both officers said, and said it correctly and cogently.
Hence, my pseudo Sun Tzu strategy and tactic: send in 5-8K special ops forces, and stagger them across important road junctures across the Middle East, from eastern Syria to Western Iraq, IN THE DESERT WHERE NO ISIS COULD SNEAKING UP ON US. Just hold those posts, using satellites and Apaches and A-10s and F-22s and F-15s and F-16s and F-18s... and KILL ANY AND ALL WHO APPROACH US, out there in the desert.
THAT will allow Iraqis and Syrians to fight their own battles, in towns and cities across their countries, fight against enemies in LANDSCAPE and among people Syrians and Iraqis know best.
Tell them: you fuckers need to stop running away from now on and into the next 6 months, because within the next 6 months, WE WILL KILL EVERYONE WHO APPROACH US OUT THERE IN THE DESERTS, trying to get from point A to point B, so you WON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL ISIS members coming in to town, where you're fighting, to re-enforce... so you SHOULD BE ABLE TO DECISIVELY deal with the few thousand ISIS in towns you're fighting...
As you can see, this STRATEGY --- WHICH IN AND OF ITSELF IS ALSO A BRILLIAN TACTIC, IF YOU ASK ME --- REDUCES CASULTIES TO BOTH AMERICANS and Syrian and Iraqi fighters, since EACH knows exactly what to expect.
And, more importantly, THIS STRATEGY and this TACTIC allows American to get the fuck out of Syria and Iraq in 6 months.... NO CIVILIANS WOULD EVEN KNOW WE'RE THERE, MUCH LESS HAVING TO DEAL WITH US, TO HATE US, TO KILL US.
Using 5-8,000 in units of 100 to 200 men/women of special ops, armed to the teeth and supported 24/7 by dozens of military satellites (sure we could take some away from monitoring Russia and China, just 6 months!) and Apaches and A-10s and F-22s and F-15s and F-16s and F-18s and LIKELY ANOTHER 5,000 to 8,000 additional special ops forces from Turkey, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, the AUE.... IT IS VERY POSSIBLE TO KILL ALL ISIS MEMBERS and ANY ONE ELSE WHO GIVE THEM SHELTER AND SYMPATHIES.
For better or for worse, that is a better thing to do than to wring your hand and twirl your thumbs and to mouth off like Obama and Leon Penata here do, trying to sound clever, when you don't really have any serious strategy one way or another.
Her Lao
Jun 26, 2015, 12:26:26 PM6/26/15
to
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/attacks-hit-three-continents-amid-fears-of-escalating-islamist-violence/2015/06/26/c3a76c90-1c08-11e5-93b7-5eddc056ad8a_story.html
Our Messiah's "dismantle and destroy" mission against ISIS === this non-Islamic terror group ("The Islamic State, Abrahamic Caliphate of the World") === must be working well, since ISIS is going through its last spasms across the world... inspiring followers, in groups and individuals who are carrying out decapitating in France, Britain, America, the Middle East, and wherever those HOLY, NON-ISLAMIC folks live...
Her Lao
Jun 29, 2015, 11:03:30 PM6/29/15
to
http://news.yahoo.com/sputtering-start-us-militarys-training-syrian-rebels-103233237.html
The Messiah's Fool's Errand
Her Lao
Jul 17, 2015, 2:51:15 PM7/17/15
to
http://news.yahoo.com/nuclear-deal-saudis-signal-theyll-act-iran-gets-110003003.html
Strange angle, on the use of "special forces" in the Middle East.
Saudi Arabia PURPORTS to want to using them in its backyard, Yemen; but it is against SHIA groups, mainly the "Houthis."
Remember, Shia groups are the main targets of the extreme Sunni ISIS in most of the Middle East.
Saudi Arabia is Sunni, while Iran is Shia.
These two sects of Mohammedan tribes are in perpetual struggle for hundreds of years now, over who ought to have been Mohammed, the winged horse riding holy man sent by the Creator of the Universe, Allah....
The Persians and the Saudis, AS PEOPLE (even if we took their religious superstitions out of the equation), have been the most powerful and COMPETITING people in the Middle East for many generations, too, so the struggle has always been multi-dimensional. It's about religious sectarian supremacy struggle, political supremacy struggle, cultural supremacy struggle, economic supremacy struggle...
There's a part of western Iran that Arabs were and continue to be the majority, and that land has a lot of oil, and Arabs have never been happy that the Persians, as the former see it, had taken it over and has been ruling it and the Arab natives with an iron fist.
Strange angle, on the use of "special forces" in the Middle East.
Saudi Arabia PURPORTS to want to using them in its backyard, Yemen; but it is against SHIA groups, mainly the "Houthis."
Remember, Shia groups are the main targets of the extreme Sunni ISIS in most of the Middle East.
Saudi Arabia is Sunni, while Iran is Shia.
These two sects of Mohammedan tribes are in perpetual struggle for hundreds of years now, over who ought to have been Mohammed, the winged horse riding holy man sent by the Creator of the Universe, Allah....
The Persians and the Saudis, AS PEOPLE (even if we took their religious superstitions out of the equation), have been the most powerful and COMPETITING people in the Middle East for many generations, too, so the struggle has always been multi-dimensional. It's about religious sectarian supremacy struggle, political supremacy struggle, cultural supremacy struggle, economic supremacy struggle...
There's a part of western Iran that Arabs were and continue to be the majority, and that land has a lot of oil, and Arabs have never been happy that the Persians, as the former see it, had taken it over and has been ruling it and the Arab natives with an iron fist.
MadMostOfTheTime
Jul 17, 2015, 3:25:36 PM7/17/15
to
Her Lao
Aug 1, 2015, 6:45:08 AM8/1/15
to
http://news.yahoo.com/despite-bombing-islamic-state-no-weaker-ago-071937837--politics.html
WASHINGTON (AP) -- After billions of dollars spent and more than 10,000 extremist fighters killed, the Islamic State group is fundamentally no weaker than it was when the U.S.-led bombing campaign began a year ago, American intelligence agencies have concluded.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
In the mean time, Turkey has now decided to bomb the hell out of the MOST EFFECTIVE ISIS fighters, the Kurds (those in Turkey are known, as fighters, as PKK; those in Syria, closely related, are the PYG; and those in northern Iraq are Peshmerga)... using over 30 US made F-16s and other advanced military aircraft...
With the Americans being OKAY with these killings of Kurds, the most effective, most reliable ON-THE-GROUND ISIS fighters....
Obama, or the Messiah, and his program of training "moderate" rebels has so far produced around 60. And roughly 30 have been killed or captured, the last a couple days, by Al Qaida's group, Al Nusra, so Obama doesn't have much of any Arab Syrian opposition on the ground.... Only the Kurds (in Syria, in Turkey, and in Iraq) are CONSISTENTLY the most able anti-ISIS fighters...
http://news.yahoo.com/260-pkk-members-killed-turkey-air-strikes-report-072704506.html
THESE KILLINGS AND COUNTER-KILLING, of course, sell literally tons and tons of American weapons and ammunition, and military planes and parts, etc. So American and European businesses manufacturing such weapons and equipment are, of course, DOING VERY WELL... so neither Americans nor Europeans are really THAT EAGER to help solve these problems that they started in the first place, by invading countries and killing off dictators who could control these religious nuts...
WASHINGTON (AP) -- After billions of dollars spent and more than 10,000 extremist fighters killed, the Islamic State group is fundamentally no weaker than it was when the U.S.-led bombing campaign began a year ago, American intelligence agencies have concluded.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
In the mean time, Turkey has now decided to bomb the hell out of the MOST EFFECTIVE ISIS fighters, the Kurds (those in Turkey are known, as fighters, as PKK; those in Syria, closely related, are the PYG; and those in northern Iraq are Peshmerga)... using over 30 US made F-16s and other advanced military aircraft...
With the Americans being OKAY with these killings of Kurds, the most effective, most reliable ON-THE-GROUND ISIS fighters....
Obama, or the Messiah, and his program of training "moderate" rebels has so far produced around 60. And roughly 30 have been killed or captured, the last a couple days, by Al Qaida's group, Al Nusra, so Obama doesn't have much of any Arab Syrian opposition on the ground.... Only the Kurds (in Syria, in Turkey, and in Iraq) are CONSISTENTLY the most able anti-ISIS fighters...
http://news.yahoo.com/260-pkk-members-killed-turkey-air-strikes-report-072704506.html
THESE KILLINGS AND COUNTER-KILLING, of course, sell literally tons and tons of American weapons and ammunition, and military planes and parts, etc. So American and European businesses manufacturing such weapons and equipment are, of course, DOING VERY WELL... so neither Americans nor Europeans are really THAT EAGER to help solve these problems that they started in the first place, by invading countries and killing off dictators who could control these religious nuts...
Her Lao
Aug 2, 2015, 10:18:31 PM8/2/15
to
> Obama, or the Messiah, and his program of training "moderate" rebels has so far produced around 60. And roughly 30 have been killed or captured, the last a couple days, by Al Qaida's group, Al Nusra, so Obama doesn't have much of any Arab Syrian opposition on the ground.... Only the Kurds (in Syria, in Turkey, and in Iraq) are CONSISTENTLY the most able anti-ISIS fighters...
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-02/obama-authorizes-airstrikes-to-defend-syrian-rebels-if-attacked?cmpid=yhoo
July 31, 2015, Obama did an executive order authoring the US military to help those now-less-than-60 CIA trained "moderate rebels." A bit too late, no?
Why not protect from the start? Why wait until a tiny unit of 60 has been reduced by about half, to order such a broadening executive order?
Hey, wait, wasn't this "CIA" the very PERSON --- let's go by the Republican's notion of INSTITUTIONS and CORPORATIONS and COMPANIES being "people, too" --- the same who promised people of my dad's generation, in the early 1960s to early 70s, they're going to be "helped," too?
The last look my dad another others saw, I think, was that CIA guy running away like ants got his balls or somethin'...
Oh, wait, that guy WAS A LIBRAL, a pussy, not a real warrior, that's right. If it had been George W. Bush, McCain (if McCain had not been shot down, that is), or Rubio, or Ted Cruz, or Lindsey Graham, or Donald Trump.... all the bad communists in Laos and Vietnam would all have been killed or made to kneel in front of America's CIA man!
Her Lao
Aug 5, 2015, 4:18:05 AM8/5/15
to
http://news.yahoo.com/us-says-may-additional-steps-defend-allies-syria-172801915.html
With over 30 dead or captured, Obama's 60-trained "moderate rebels" are reduced to roughly 25.
Of course, Al Nusra (Al Qaida) is not stupid.
With only 60 or so "trained" "moderate" soldiers --- most of whom are, in reality, just spies and ground eyes and ears for the American air campgain, NOT REBEL SOLDIERS OUT THERE TO FIGHT AGAINST EITHER ASSAD OR ISIS OR AL QAIDA --- you could pretty much wipe them out in a few months, if you keep after them on a day basis.... finding out where the Americans put them, or direct them to, and either kill them off or capturing them and torturing them to reveal where the other 2 dozens are, etc.
This must be one of the most mindless programs of Obama. Protecting roughly 25 or so "moderate rebels" (trained ones who are now US MILITARY ASSETS on the ground in Syria) is really IMPOSSIBLE.
If you had groups of 100-200, and you have SEVERAL SUCH GROUPS, in one particular area of another, then, sure, THEY COULD REPEL attacks on the ground AND YOU COULD HELP THEM FROM THE AIR... but 25 trained rebels and the USA is gonna us fighter jets to help them? That is just fuckin' idiotic!
It shows, when people become "commander in chief" --- young ones like Obama, who was around 45, WITHOUT MILITARY BACKGROUND --- who don't really know any thing about MILITARY, either fighting or pure logistics....
Experienced generals who have combat experience can't voice objections, either --- about Obama's LESS THAN HALF-HEARTED BULLSHIT WHEN IT COMES TO "TRAINING MODERATE REBELS" --- since thise 45 year-old guy (now 53, after 7 years on the job) IS YOUR COMMANDER IN CHIEF, and whatever HE SAYS "goes"....
Very tricky and tragic situation for everyone, except for Americans, and even then, this "promise" to use fighter jets to help those 25 or so left CIA-TRAINED MODERATE REBELS... it already is getting Obama deeper than ever before, into the conflict...
Her Lao
Aug 6, 2015, 11:55:14 PM8/6/15
to
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/06/syrian-rebels-nusra-front-al-qaida-kidnapping
Obama's embarrassing program of training "moderate rebels"....
Obama's embarrassing program of training "moderate rebels"....
0 new messages