Back by popular demand...
Eliyahu Rooff
egotistical thing to say, but that's what is bringing me back to the
newsgroup. During the weeks I was away, I received a surprising number
of e-mails from group members, lurkers and former posters, all asking me
to reconsider. Josh even phoned me from Israel to ask that I come back.
In the meantime, Chano sent me a letter of apology (with permission to
mention it here), which I accepted, and we've reconciled.
I'm asking, though, that everyone get in the habit of remembering and
considering that the person to whom we reply isn't just a disembodied
pair of hands hammering away at a keyboard, but is a real person with
real feelings. Just because you and he (or she) disagree vociferously
here, it doesn't mean that hurtful words don't hurt. Angry words divert
attention away from the message and toward the messenger, inhibiting
reasoned and rational discourse, and almost automatically creating a
barrier to consideration of your opinion. And, for those who are in the
seemingly endless back-and-forth threads that resolve nothing, you don't
have to have the last word. No, you don't. You don't either... And no
one really cares who started it, okay? :-)
Meanwhile, there have been a couple interesting things here in Walla
Walla. Time for a little catch-up...
First, we have a new participant in the local congregation. That's
commonplace elsewhere, of course, but not that common here. She
transferred to this area while in the middle of the conversion process
and I've been asked to help her with her Jewish studies, so be prepared
from questions from me as I help her find answers. Tara began her
conversion under Reform auspices, but has discovered that she's going to
be a lot happier doing it into Conservative or Orthodox Judaism simply
because she has a real desire to observe all the mitzvot. (As an aside,
my knack for finding things at affordable prices when needed still seems
to be working. She mentioned that she hoped someday to be able to afford
a nice set of sterling candlestick holders like ours for her Shabbat
candles. The next day, I stopped by the local Goodwill and found a pair
of them, in sterling, for fifty cents. Ten minutes on my buffing wheel
and they look like new. It never ceases to amaze me how G-d makes things
appear when I need them - even though I'm still waiting to find that ten
dollar Sefer Torah...)
Second, I've been asked to build a sukkah for the students at Whitman
College. They have about 60 Jewish students this year, but I'm the only
Jewish carpenter in town... I'll be building it tomorrow morning with
some assistance from them.
We had a guest cantor at the local synagogue to assist with High Holy
Days services. She made an interesting discovery at the airport on the
way here when security wouldn't let her bring her Shofar as carry-on due
to some sort of security concerns. Had to leave it in a locker there
until her return. Maybe they had some vague memory of Joshua bringing
down the walls of Jerico or something like that...
One of the advantages of living in a small town is an increased
opportunity for participation. By the time RH and YK were done, I'd had
two aliyot, carried the Torah twice, dressed it three times, done
several readings, led the Brachot for havdalah, plus some other odds and
ends.
I've also had the time and good weather to allow me to take the new ZOG
parade motorcycle out several times during the week! :-)
I hope that the High Holy Days were good for everyone else here, and
that we can all look forward to a peaceful, happy and prosperous new
year!
Eliyahu
Dan Kimmel
"Eliyahu Rooff" <lro...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:qyi4f.7959$mL4....@fe06.lga...
> One of the advantages of living in a small town is an increased
> opportunity for participation. By the time RH and YK were done, I'd had
> two aliyot, carried the Torah twice, dressed it three times, done
> several readings, led the Brachot for havdalah, plus some other odds and
> ends.
Yes, but do you get to celebrate Hoshanah Rabbah?
Glad to see you back. Isn't it nice to know you were missed? :)
Jackie
Good tosee you again. (I can say that since I was one of the people wo
emailed you.) I too had a great High Holy Day experience when I went back to
my small town in Ontario. Somehow the thought of celebrating and davening
with a congregation of over 1000 people here in St. Petersburg was daunting.
We had over 175 people attending and children were very much involved in the
service with many of the Leyning by those who had been called to the Torah
the past two years, and whole families involved in opening the Ark and
dressing the Torah I had one aliyah on RH, more than enough to give me some
recognition although my name was also in the President's message in the
October newsletter...Quite flattering for an old lady.
Anyway, glad to have you back.
Jackie
.
mos...@mm.huji.ac.il
> Back by popular demand! Yeah, I know... it sure sounds like an
> egotistical thing to say, but that's what is bringing me back to the
> newsgroup. During the weeks I was away, I received a surprising number
> of e-mails from group members, lurkers and former posters, all asking me
> to reconsider. Josh even phoned me from Israel to ask that I come back.
> In the meantime, Chano sent me a letter of apology (with permission to
> mention it here), which I accepted, and we've reconciled.
I am very glad. I don't have time to respond to the rest of this
excellent 9as usual) post, so I'll leave it at that for now.
Chag Sameach.
Moshe Schorr
It is a tremendous Mitzvah to always be happy! - Reb Nachman of Breslov
The home and family are the center of Judaism, *not* the synagogue.
Disclaimer: Nothing here necessarily reflects the opinion of Hebrew University
nothing snipped.
Andy Katz
This is an excellent post-Yom Kippur surprise.
Andy Katz
J J Levin
We missed you.
Shana Tova,
Jay
Joel Shurkin
J
Joel Shurkin
Baltimore
--
"Realityå–«t's kind of a collective hunch, isn't it?"
Lilly Tomlin
On 10/16/05 4:48 AM, in article qyi4f.7959$mL4....@fe06.lga, "Eliyahu
bac...@vms.huji.ac.il
> Back by popular demand! Yeah, I know... it sure sounds like an
> egotistical thing to say, but that's what is bringing me back to the
> newsgroup. During the weeks I was away, I received a surprising number
> of e-mails from group members, lurkers and former posters, all asking me
> to reconsider. Josh even phoned me from Israel to ask that I come back.
> In the meantime, Chano sent me a letter of apology (with permission to
> mention it here), which I accepted, and we've reconciled.
>
This is better than "Welcome Back Kotter" :-) BARUCH HA'BA!!
We missed you.
Josh
Arthur Kamlet
<lro...@hotmail.com> writes:
> Back by popular demand! Yeah, I know... it sure sounds like an
> egotistical thing to say, but that's what is bringing me back to the
> newsgroup. During the weeks I was away, I received a surprising number
Welcome back.
From me personally and from JWV Post 122.
--
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Art Kamlet ArtKamlet @ AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH
Don Levey
> Back by popular demand! Yeah, I know... it sure sounds like an
> egotistical thing to say, but that's what is bringing me back to the
> newsgroup.
>
Good to see you back here!
--
Don Levey If knowledge is power,
Framingham, MA and power corrupts, then...
NOTE: email server uses spam filters; mail sent to sal...@the-leveys.us
will be used to tune the blocking lists.
Adelle
> thing to say, but that's what is bringing me back to the newsgroup. During
> the weeks I was away, I received a surprising number of e-mails from group
> members, lurkers and former posters, all asking me to reconsider. Josh
> even phoned me from Israel to ask that I come back. In the meantime, Chano
> sent me a letter of apology (with permission to mention it here), which I
> accepted, and we've reconciled.
So glad you are back. Missed you a great deal.
And you and Chano have presented a wonderful model about the season and
teshuva.
>
> I'm asking, though, that everyone get in the habit of remembering and
> considering that the person to whom we reply isn't just a disembodied pair
> of hands hammering away at a keyboard, but is a real person with real
> feelings. Just because you and he (or she) disagree vociferously here, it
> doesn't mean that hurtful words don't hurt. Angry words divert attention
> away from the message and toward the messenger, inhibiting reasoned and
> rational discourse, and almost automatically creating a barrier to
> consideration of your opinion. And, for those who are in the seemingly
> endless back-and-forth threads that resolve nothing, you don't have to
> have the last word. No, you don't. You don't either... And no one really
> cares who started it, okay? :-)
See the thread I posted titled "computer related teshuvah" to echo what you
have written here.
>
> Meanwhile, there have been a couple interesting things here in Walla
> Walla. Time for a little catch-up...
>
> First, we have a new participant in the local congregation. That's
> commonplace elsewhere, of course, but not that common here. She
> transferred to this area while in the middle of the conversion process and
> I've been asked to help her with her Jewish studies, so be prepared from
> questions from me as I help her find answers. Tara began her conversion
> under Reform auspices, but has discovered that she's going to be a lot
> happier doing it into Conservative or Orthodox Judaism simply because she
> has a real desire to observe all the mitzvot. (As an aside, my knack for
> finding things at affordable prices when needed still seems to be working.
> She mentioned that she hoped someday to be able to afford a nice set of
> sterling candlestick holders like ours for her Shabbat candles. The next
> day, I stopped by the local Goodwill and found a pair of them, in
> sterling, for fifty cents. Ten minutes on my buffing wheel and they look
> like new. It never ceases to amaze me how G-d makes things appear when I
> need them - even though I'm still waiting to find that ten dollar Sefer
> Torah...)
;-) You are doing a gret mitzvah in helping Tara. B'hatzlacha!
>
> Second, I've been asked to build a sukkah for the students at Whitman
> College. They have about 60 Jewish students this year, but I'm the only
> Jewish carpenter in town... I'll be building it tomorrow morning with some
> assistance from them.
That sounds wonderful! Building a sukkah is something I have always wanted
to do but haven't yet. But every year on Dec 26th, I buy more lights and
fruit shaped ornaments for the day when we do finally build one.
I have officially bowed to reality and accepted that my health doesn't allow
me to do this project on my own, and its not high on my husband's
priorities. Another thing holding me back is the need for no part of the
house's roof to be over the sukkah. I'd like the task to be as simple as
possible (to encourage mt hubby to actually do it), so using the house as
one wall by putting it on the deck and using the railings as support for
lattice seems the easiest way to do this. But my roof (ranch style house)
has an 18 inch overhang.
>
> We had a guest cantor at the local synagogue to assist with High Holy Days
> services. She made an interesting discovery at the airport on the way here
> when security wouldn't let her bring her Shofar as carry-on due to some
> sort of security concerns. Had to leave it in a locker there until her
> return. Maybe they had some vague memory of Joshua bringing down the walls
> of Jerico or something like that...
>
> One of the advantages of living in a small town is an increased
> opportunity for participation. By the time RH and YK were done, I'd had
> two aliyot, carried the Torah twice, dressed it three times, done several
> readings, led the Brachot for havdalah, plus some other odds and ends.
Smaller congregations do have their finer points in terms of opportunities
to contribute. For RH, my daughter, Rebecca, layned an aliyah and I was
called for one. And for YK I layned two aliyot and Rebecca and 3 other
Midrasha students did an English reading as part of the Avodah section of
the service.
>
> I've also had the time and good weather to allow me to take the new ZOG
> parade motorcycle out several times during the week! :-)
>
> I hope that the High Holy Days were good for everyone else here, and that
> we can all look forward to a peaceful, happy and prosperous new year!
Amen! And again, welcome back!
Adelle
Chaya
have it pop up on people's screen before they can post here....
Thank you for the reminder, and we're all glad that you're back.
fla...@verizon.net
On 16-Oct-2005, "Eliyahu Rooff" <lro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Josh even phoned me from Israel to ask that I come back.
> In the meantime, Chano sent me a letter of apology (with permission to
> mention it here), which I accepted, and we've reconciled.
Oh, I'm so happy I'm tearing up here...
Not just that you're back, but that Chano is such a mensch!
(& Josh, too - phone rates must be ridiculous!
And, speaking of ridiculous phone rates - send me your number!)
Susan
Tim Meushaw
> Back by popular demand! Yeah, I know... it sure sounds like an
> egotistical thing to say, but that's what is bringing me back to the
> newsgroup. During the weeks I was away, I received a surprising number
> of e-mails from group members, lurkers and former posters, all asking me
> to reconsider. Josh even phoned me from Israel to ask that I come back.
> In the meantime, Chano sent me a letter of apology (with permission to
> mention it here), which I accepted, and we've reconciled.
Yay!
> I'm asking, though, that everyone get in the habit of remembering and
> considering that the person to whom we reply isn't just a disembodied
> pair of hands hammering away at a keyboard, but is a real person with
> real feelings. Just because you and he (or she) disagree vociferously
> here, it doesn't mean that hurtful words don't hurt. Angry words divert
> attention away from the message and toward the messenger, inhibiting
> reasoned and rational discourse, and almost automatically creating a
> barrier to consideration of your opinion. And, for those who are in the
> seemingly endless back-and-forth threads that resolve nothing, you don't
> have to have the last word. No, you don't. You don't either... And no
> one really cares who started it, okay? :-)
I'm very pleased to see the newsgroup has calmed down substantially in
the last couple of weeks. Hopefully it continues through next Yom
Kippur. :-)
> Meanwhile, there have been a couple interesting things here in Walla
> Walla. Time for a little catch-up...
<snip to make one more comment>
> We had a guest cantor at the local synagogue to assist with High Holy
> Days services. She made an interesting discovery at the airport on the
> way here when security wouldn't let her bring her Shofar as carry-on due
> to some sort of security concerns. Had to leave it in a locker there
> until her return. Maybe they had some vague memory of Joshua bringing
> down the walls of Jerico or something like that...
I'm glad to see I wasn't offbase then. When we were returning from
Israel, my father-in-law asked if we'd be able to bring back a large
(2 foot long) shofar with us that he had purchased there several years
ago but hasn't been able to bring back yet. It was definately the kind
of thing that would need to be hand carried. While we were taking
El Al back to the US, we were taking another carrier back to home,
and I presumed Homeland Security would forbid the item at some point,
at which time we'd be stuck (couldn't take it further with us, couldn't
leave it behind in New York City, couldn't mail it).
Of course, it all wound up to be moot anyway as we missed our connecting
flight out of NYC and there were no more flights until the morning (this
was at 5pm), so we rented a car and drove home. Could have carried the
shofar with us after all; oh well.
Tim
--
Timothy A. Meushaw
meu...@pobox.com
Malcolm
I'm easing off my posting, because of the time pressures of my new project.
However I will still follow occasionally, so remember Big Brother is
watching you and don't fall out again.
Steve Goldfarb
>Back by popular demand! Yeah, I know... it sure sounds like an
>egotistical thing to say, but that's what is bringing me back to the
>newsgroup. During the weeks I was away, I received a surprising number
>of e-mails from group members, lurkers and former posters, all asking me
>to reconsider. Josh even phoned me from Israel to ask that I come back.
>In the meantime, Chano sent me a letter of apology (with permission to
>mention it here), which I accepted, and we've reconciled.
Welcome back!
--s
--
bac...@vms.huji.ac.il
>
> On 16-Oct-2005, "Eliyahu Rooff" <lro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Josh even phoned me from Israel to ask that I come back.
>> In the meantime, Chano sent me a letter of apology (with permission to
>> mention it here), which I accepted, and we've reconciled.
>
> Oh, I'm so happy I'm tearing up here...
> Not just that you're back, but that Chano is such a mensch!
> (& Josh, too - phone rates must be ridiculous!
21 agorot a minute [that's $0.045] over a POTS line (not over
VOIP).
It's my "revenge" [I was the one who in 1992 was sitting on a government
telecom committee meeting dealing with Internet and sitting next to
Zvi Ilani who was the head of the telecommunications branch of the
Ministry of Communications. He knew of my background in intel
[when I was in the Training Dept. of the you know what in 1980] and
asked for a favor. BEZEK the Israeli phone company had become a
government corporation a few years before and had refused Ilani's official
request for its actual cost of its satellite downlink in New Jersey
(the cost of a 64K satellite link for telecom was an astronomical
$14,600). I was asked to find out how much BEZEK paid to COMSAT
in Washington. 24 hours later I had the report on his desk: $480 a month.
He calls me in to the Minister's office (Pinchasi from SHAS) who almost
had a stroke when he saw the report. On the spot he granted telecom
licenses (which had been rejected for the previous 2 years) to 3
separate companies: Israsat, Darcom, and Incom. And appointed me to
become the "public representative" for the Telecommunications Branch
for the Ministry.
PEYRUSH RASHI: I am the one who engendered the deregulation of the
telecom industry in Israel. Prices plummeted and are less than one
percent what they were 13 years ago.
Josh
Yisroel Markov
>In article <dj1cl8$cqp$1...@falcon.steinthal.us>, fla...@verizon.net writes:
>>
>> On 16-Oct-2005, "Eliyahu Rooff" <lro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Josh even phoned me from Israel to ask that I come back.
>>> In the meantime, Chano sent me a letter of apology (with permission to
>>> mention it here), which I accepted, and we've reconciled.
[belatedly] Neat!
And about your modesty we will say nothing :-)
Seriously, though, this is something to be proud of. I won't calculate
the cumulative benefits of this move to the Israeli economy (not
enough time), but they're surely huge. A pity, though, that things
have to be done this way in Israel. It took a long time here in the
USA, but at least the deregulation process was public.
Yisroel "Godwrestler Warriorson" Markov - Boston, MA Member
www.reason.com -- for unbiased analysis of the world DNRC
--------------------------------------------------------------------
"Judge, and be prepared to be judged" -- Ayn Rand
Shlomo Argamon
Eliyahu Rooff wrote:
> Back by popular demand! Yeah, I know... it sure sounds like an
> egotistical thing to say, but that's what is bringing me back to the
> newsgroup. During the weeks I was away, I received a surprising number
> of e-mails from group members, lurkers and former posters, all asking me
> to reconsider. Josh even phoned me from Israel to ask that I come back.
> In the meantime, Chano sent me a letter of apology (with permission to
> mention it here), which I accepted, and we've reconciled.
Barukh Hashem!!! And WELCOME BACK!!! Very good news indeed.
:-)BB!! |^^^|
-Shlomo-
Abe Kohen
> 21 agorot a minute [that's $0.045] over a POTS line (not over
> VOIP).
Who do you have service with? Does this include your monthly charge?
> It's my "revenge" [I was the one who in 1992 was sitting on a government
> telecom committee meeting dealing with Internet and sitting next to
> Zvi Ilani who was the head of the telecommunications branch of the
You and Forrest Gump?
Shavua Tov
(Gutten Moyed)
Abe
Henry Goodman
news:11lloe9...@corp.supernews.com...
Welcome back to you too. Long time no post.
--
Henry Goodman
henry dot goodman at virgin dot net
bac...@vms.huji.ac.il
> <bac...@vms.huji.ac.il> wrote
>> 21 agorot a minute [that's $0.045] over a POTS line (not over
>> VOIP).
>
> Who do you have service with? Does this include your monthly charge?
Barak.
>
>> It's my "revenge" [I was the one who in 1992 was sitting on a government
>> telecom committee meeting dealing with Internet and sitting next to
>> Zvi Ilani who was the head of the telecommunications branch of the
>
> You and Forrest Gump?
>
ROTFL!!
Josh
Shlomo Argamon
bac...@vms.huji.ac.il wrote:
> In article <11lloe9...@corp.supernews.com>, "Abe Kohen" <ako...@xenon.stanford.edu> writes:
> > <bac...@vms.huji.ac.il> wrote
> >> 21 agorot a minute [that's $0.045] over a POTS line (not over
> >> VOIP).
> >
> > Who do you have service with? Does this include your monthly charge?
>
>
> Barak.
Ehud or Obama?
-Shlomo-
bac...@vms.huji.ac.il
The Chief Justice :-)
Josh
>
> -Shlomo-
>
mos...@mm.huji.ac.il
> "Abe Kohen" <ako...@xenon.stanford.edu> writes:
>> <bac...@vms.huji.ac.il> wrote
>>> 21 agorot a minute [that's $0.045] over a POTS line (not over
>>> VOIP).
>>
>> Who do you have service with? Does this include your monthly charge?
>
> Barak.
>
>>> It's my "revenge" [I was the one who in 1992 was sitting on a government
>>> telecom committee meeting dealing with Internet and sitting next to
>>> Zvi Ilani who was the head of the telecommunications branch of the
>>
>> You and Forrest Gump?
>
> ROTFL!!
What's the joke? Sorry to be so uninformed.
mos...@mm.huji.ac.il
> "Eliyahu Rooff" <lro...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> Second, I've been asked to build a sukkah for the students at Whitman
>> College. They have about 60 Jewish students this year, but I'm the only
>> Jewish carpenter in town... I'll be building it tomorrow morning with some
>> assistance from them.
>
> That sounds wonderful! Building a sukkah is something I have always wanted
> to do but haven't yet. But every year on Dec 26th, I buy more lights and
> fruit shaped ornaments for the day when we do finally build one.
>
> I have officially bowed to reality and accepted that my health doesn't allow
> me to do this project on my own, and its not high on my husband's
> priorities. Another thing holding me back is the need for no part of the
> house's roof to be over the sukkah. I'd like the task to be as simple as
> possible (to encourage mt hubby to actually do it), so using the house as
> one wall by putting it on the deck and using the railings as support for
> lattice seems the easiest way to do this. But my roof (ranch style house)
> has an 18 inch overhang.
That would only disqualify sitting _under_ that roof. But if the
sukkah is large enough, that wall _may_ be used as one of the four.
Check this out with someone knowlegable about the laws of sukkot. It
could very well be that you can do it.
Sorry this is so late, but it could help for next year IY"H.
bac...@vms.huji.ac.il
> "Adelle" <adNOs...@SPAMcomcast.net> writes:
>> "Eliyahu Rooff" <lro...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
>>> Second, I've been asked to build a sukkah for the students at Whitman
>>> College. They have about 60 Jewish students this year, but I'm the only
>>> Jewish carpenter in town... I'll be building it tomorrow morning with some
>>> assistance from them.
>>
>> That sounds wonderful! Building a sukkah is something I have always wanted
>> to do but haven't yet. But every year on Dec 26th, I buy more lights and
>> fruit shaped ornaments for the day when we do finally build one.
>>
>> I have officially bowed to reality and accepted that my health doesn't allow
>> me to do this project on my own, and its not high on my husband's
>> priorities. Another thing holding me back is the need for no part of the
>> house's roof to be over the sukkah. I'd like the task to be as simple as
>> possible (to encourage mt hubby to actually do it), so using the house as
>> one wall by putting it on the deck and using the railings as support for
>> lattice seems the easiest way to do this. But my roof (ranch style house)
>> has an 18 inch overhang.
>
> That would only disqualify sitting _under_ that roof. But if the
> sukkah is large enough, that wall _may_ be used as one of the four.
> Check this out with someone knowlegable about the laws of sukkot. It
> could very well be that you can do it.
The simplest thing would be to buy the 8 seater instant sukka from
http://www.popupsukkah.com It takes 2 people 60 seconds to open it
and set it up and it costs $259.
Josh
Adelle
<mos...@mm.huji.ac.il> wrote in message
news:2005Oct2...@mm.huji.ac.il...
It helps enormously! Thank You!!
Adelle
mos...@mm.huji.ac.il
> fla...@verizon.net writes:
>> On 16-Oct-2005, "Eliyahu Rooff" <lro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Josh even phoned me from Israel to ask that I come back.
>>> In the meantime, Chano sent me a letter of apology (with permission to
>>> mention it here), which I accepted, and we've reconciled.
>>
>> Oh, I'm so happy I'm tearing up here...
>> Not just that you're back, but that Chano is such a mensch!
>> (& Josh, too - phone rates must be ridiculous!
>
> 21 agorot a minute [that's $0.045] over a POTS line (not over VOIP).
What's a POTS?
> It's my "revenge" [I was the one who in 1992 was sitting on a government
> telecom committee meeting dealing with Internet and sitting next to
> Zvi Ilani who was the head of the telecommunications branch of the
> Ministry of Communications. He knew of my background in intel
> [when I was in the Training Dept. of the you know what in 1980] and
> asked for a favor. BEZEK the Israeli phone company had become a
> government corporation a few years before and had refused Ilani's official
> request for its actual cost of its satellite downlink in New Jersey
> (the cost of a 64K satellite link for telecom was an astronomical
> $14,600). I was asked to find out how much BEZEK paid to COMSAT
> in Washington. 24 hours later I had the report on his desk: $480 a month.
> He calls me in to the Minister's office (Pinchasi from SHAS) who almost
> had a stroke when he saw the report. On the spot he granted telecom
> licenses (which had been rejected for the previous 2 years) to 3
> separate companies: Israsat, Darcom, and Incom. And appointed me to
> become the "public representative" for the Telecommunications Branch
> for the Ministry.
>
> PEYRUSH RASHI: I am the one who engendered the deregulation of the
> telecom industry in Israel. Prices plummeted and are less than one
> percent what they were 13 years ago.
Thanks.
Steve Goldfarb
>> 21 agorot a minute [that's $0.045] over a POTS line (not over VOIP).
>What's a POTS?
"Plain Old Telephone Service"
--s
--
bac...@vms.huji.ac.il
>> fla...@verizon.net writes:
>>> On 16-Oct-2005, "Eliyahu Rooff" <lro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Josh even phoned me from Israel to ask that I come back.
>>>> In the meantime, Chano sent me a letter of apology (with permission to
>>>> mention it here), which I accepted, and we've reconciled.
>>>
>>> Oh, I'm so happy I'm tearing up here...
>>> Not just that you're back, but that Chano is such a mensch!
>>> (& Josh, too - phone rates must be ridiculous!
>>
>> 21 agorot a minute [that's $0.045] over a POTS line (not over VOIP).
>
> What's a POTS?
Abbreviation for Plain Old Telephone Service, or in other words
a regular phone line.
>
>> It's my "revenge" [I was the one who in 1992 was sitting on a government
>> telecom committee meeting dealing with Internet and sitting next to
>> Zvi Ilani who was the head of the telecommunications branch of the
>> Ministry of Communications. He knew of my background in intel
>> [when I was in the Training Dept. of the you know what in 1980] and
>> asked for a favor. BEZEK the Israeli phone company had become a
>> government corporation a few years before and had refused Ilani's official
>> request for its actual cost of its satellite downlink in New Jersey
>> (the cost of a 64K satellite link for telecom was an astronomical
>> $14,600). I was asked to find out how much BEZEK paid to COMSAT
>> in Washington. 24 hours later I had the report on his desk: $480 a month.
>> He calls me in to the Minister's office (Pinchasi from SHAS) who almost
>> had a stroke when he saw the report. On the spot he granted telecom
>> licenses (which had been rejected for the previous 2 years) to 3
>> separate companies: Israsat, Darcom, and Incom. And appointed me to
>> become the "public representative" for the Telecommunications Branch
>> for the Ministry.
>>
>> PEYRUSH RASHI: I am the one who engendered the deregulation of the
>> telecom industry in Israel. Prices plummeted and are less than one
>> percent what they were 13 years ago.
>
> Thanks
BTW Zvi Ilani was head of the Bar Ilan Responsa Project before
being appointed head of the telecommunications branch in the
Ministry of Communications in 1992.
Josh
Eliyahu Rooff
>
> <bac...@vms.huji.ac.il> wrote in message
> news:djpsqq$e0o$1...@falcon.steinthal.us...
> built for the college students was a kit that used 22 2x4 studs,
> 10 2x2's, bamboo mats for the roof, heavy nylon fabric for the
> walls, and took over four hours to assemble. I'll be taking it
> down this evening after work if the weather cooperates. It'll be
> interesting to see if any of the students can be bothered to come
> help...
>
To follow up on my own post... I had the assistance of the
president of the local congregation and a new member of the
community (who drove the 50+ miles from Pendelton, OR, to help), but
nary a single student showed up to dissassemble the sukkah and shlep
the materials half a block to my truck or to carry it down to the
synagogue basement. Just like last year... I let the leader of
Shalom -- the Whitman College Jewish students' group -- know that
next year they're on their own. If they want a sukkah, they can
build it themselves.
Eliyahu
mos...@mm.huji.ac.il
> Back by popular demand! Yeah, I know... it sure sounds like an
> egotistical thing to say, but that's what is bringing me back to the
> newsgroup. During the weeks I was away, I received a surprising number
> of e-mails from group members, lurkers and former posters, all asking me
> mention it here), which I accepted, and we've reconciled.
> I'm asking, though, that everyone get in the habit of remembering and
> considering that the person to whom we reply isn't just a disembodied
> pair of hands hammering away at a keyboard, but is a real person with
> real feelings. Just because you and he (or she) disagree vociferously
> here, it doesn't mean that hurtful words don't hurt. Angry words divert
> attention away from the message and toward the messenger, inhibiting
> reasoned and rational discourse, and almost automatically creating a
> barrier to consideration of your opinion.
Hmm. The above is too big to put in a sig. file! Maybe you could post
it once a month? Like whenever they have their Periodic Posting.
> And, for those who are in the seemingly endless back-and-forth
> threads that resolve nothing, you don't have to have the last
> word. No, you don't. You don't either... And no one really cares
> who started it, okay? :-)
Hey, do you want to take out _all_ the fun of posting? :-)
> Meanwhile, there have been a couple interesting things here in
> Walla Walla. Time for a little catch-up...
>
> First, we have a new participant in the local congregation. That's
> commonplace elsewhere, of course, but not that common here. She
> transferred to this area while in the middle of the conversion process
> and I've been asked to help her with her Jewish studies, so be prepared
> from questions from me as I help her find answers. Tara began her
> conversion under Reform auspices, but has discovered that she's going to
> be a lot happier doing it into Conservative or Orthodox Judaism simply
> because she has a real desire to observe all the mitzvot.
And what did _she_ say about the student with the bare midriff?
> (As an aside, my knack for finding things at affordable prices when
> needed still seems to be working. She mentioned that she hoped
> someday to be able to afford a nice set of sterling candlestick
> holders like ours for her Shabbat candles. The next day, I stopped
> by the local Goodwill and found a pair of them, in sterling, for
> fifty cents. Ten minutes on my buffing wheel and they look like new.
Maybe you should go into the business?
> It never ceases to amaze me how G-d makes things appear when I
> need them - even though I'm still waiting to find that ten dollar
> Sefer Torah...)
Maybe you don't really "need" it?
> Second, I've been asked to build a sukkah for the students at Whitman
> College. They have about 60 Jewish students this year, but I'm the only
> Jewish carpenter in town... I'll be building it tomorrow morning with
> some assistance from them.
Fantastic. Could you post some pictures?
> We had a guest cantor at the local synagogue to assist with High Holy
> Days services. She made an interesting discovery at the airport on the
> way here when security wouldn't let her bring her Shofar as carry-on due
> to some sort of security concerns. Had to leave it in a locker there
> until her return. Maybe they had some vague memory of Joshua bringing
> down the walls of Jerico or something like that...
>
> One of the advantages of living in a small town is an increased
> opportunity for participation. By the time RH and YK were done, I'd had
> two aliyot, carried the Torah twice, dressed it three times, done
> several readings, led the Brachot for havdalah, plus some other odds and
> ends.
Nice. But the havdalah at least, could be done by all, at home.
> I've also had the time and good weather to allow me to take the new
> ZOG parade motorcycle out several times during the week! :-)
And how does it look?
> I hope that the High Holy Days were good for everyone else here, and
> that we can all look forward to a peaceful, happy and prosperous new
> year!
Amen
Moshe Schorr
mos...@mm.huji.ac.il
>>>>
>>>>>> Second, I've been asked to build a sukkah for the students at
>>>>>> Whitman College.
snip
>>>
>>> The simplest thing would be to buy the 8 seater instant sukka
>>> from http://www.popupsukkah.com It takes 2 people 60 seconds
>>> to open it and set it up and it costs $259.
>>>
>> That sounds like it could have been handy. The 8x16-foot sukkah I
>> built for the college students was a kit that used 22 2x4 studs,
>> 10 2x2's, bamboo mats for the roof, heavy nylon fabric for the
>> walls, and took over four hours to assemble. I'll be taking it
>> down this evening after work if the weather cooperates. It'll be
>> interesting to see if any of the students can be bothered to come
>> help...
>>
> To follow up on my own post... I had the assistance of the
> president of the local congregation and a new member of the
> community (who drove the 50+ miles from Pendelton, OR, to help), but
> nary a single student showed up to dissassemble the sukkah and shlep
> the materials half a block to my truck or to carry it down to the
> synagogue basement. Just like last year... I let the leader of
> Shalom -- the Whitman College Jewish students' group -- know that
> next year they're on their own. If they want a sukkah, they can
> build it themselves.
It's not surprising, just disappointing. I personally _enjoy_ taking
down the sukkah, it gives me a feeling of continuity - getting ready
for _next_ year. Could be that students in Whitman College don't know
if they'll be there next year so they don't think about it.
When putting away the sukka, and when putting away the Pesach dishes
I always say my grandmother's prayer; "Please G-d, may the same
hands tha are putting away Pesach/Sukkot this year, be the ones to
take it out again next year". Then I cry a little.
cindys
<mos...@mm.huji.ac.il> wrote in message
news:2005Oct3...@mm.huji.ac.il...
>
> When putting away the sukka, and when putting away the Pesach dishes
> I always say my grandmother's prayer; "Please G-d, may the same
> take it out again next year". Then I cry a little.
That is so sweet.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
Z
>Back by popular demand!
Welcome back Eliyahu.
Sorry I haven't been around SCJM much because of work and women
problems.
--
Z
Remove all Zeds in e-mail address to reply.
mos...@mm.huji.ac.il
> Eliyahu Rooff <lro...@hotmail.com> writes
>>Back by popular demand!
>
> Welcome back Eliyahu.
> Sorry I haven't been around SCJM much because of work and women
> problems.
May the problems cease and your enjoyment increase.