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Gun Prohibitionists’ ‘Solutions’ Won’t Make a Difference…And They’re Just Fine With That

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Michael Ejercito

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Nov 18, 2019, 9:26:39 AM11/18/19
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Gun Prohibitionists’ ‘Solutions’ Won’t Make a Difference…And They’re Just
Fine With That
BY DAN ZIMMERMAN |NOV 18, 2019 |0 COMMENTS
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Same feces, different day. After the school shooting in Santa Clarita, all
the same eminences of the civilian disarmament industry spouted all of the
same outrage at the lack of common sense “gun safety” measures.

All of the same voices were raised touting all of the same actions that
simply must be taken as a moral imperative to DO SOMETHING.

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Never mind that not a single one of the gun prohibitionists’ prescriptions
would have done a single thing to stop the Saugus High School shooter or to
prevent virtually any other mass shooting that’s taken place.

But in a time of historically low “gun violence” in this country — there
really isn’t an epidemic as the Democrats and the media would have you
believe — portraying the problem as more dire than it is is really their
only option.

It’s illegal for a teen to walk around with a handgun anywhere in the United
States. It’s illegal for a California teen to go to Alabama or Arizona or
Virginia to buy a gun. It’s illegal for any teen to purchase a gun through
the mail or at a gun show or be gifted one from his dear uncle. It is
illegal for parents to allow their kids to procure their firearms. No state
or federal regulation now being championed by Senate Democrats would have
stopped this teen, which is the case for the vast majority of mass
shootings.

Murphy knows this. Kamala Harris and all the others leading Democrats who
try to emotionally manipulate Americans to support their restrictions know
this. All those who smear the NRA as a terrorist organization know this. All
those who claim that Mitch McConnell has blood on his hands for failing to
convene the Senate [to] pass a Democratic bill that has absolutely nothing
remotely to do with the Santa Clarita shooting know this.

– David Harsanyi in Nothing Democrats Are Proposing in Washington Will Stop
Mass Shootings in California

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Nov 18, 2019, 9:34:44 AM11/18/19
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On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 06:27:45 -0800, "Michael Ejercito"
<meje...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gun-prohibitionists-solutions-wont-make-a-difference-and-theyre-just-fine-with-that/
>
>Gun Prohibitionists’ ‘Solutions’ Won’t Make a Difference…And They’re Just
>Fine With That
>BY DAN ZIMMERMAN |NOV 18, 2019 |0 COMMENTS

>Same feces, different day. After the school shooting in Santa Clarita, all
>the same eminences of the civilian disarmament industry spouted all of the
>same outrage at the lack of common sense “gun safety” measures.
>
>All of the same voices were raised touting all of the same actions that
>simply must be taken as a moral imperative to DO SOMETHING.
>
>Never mind that not a single one of the gun prohibitionists’ prescriptions
>would have done a single thing to stop the Saugus High School shooter or to
>prevent virtually any other mass shooting that’s taken place.
>
>But in a time of historically low “gun violence” in this country — there
>really isn’t an epidemic as the Democrats and the media would have you
>believe — portraying the problem as more dire than it is is really their
>only option.
>
>It’s illegal for a teen to walk around with a handgun anywhere in the United
>States. It’s illegal for a California teen to go to Alabama or Arizona or
>Virginia to buy a gun. It’s illegal for any teen to purchase a gun through
>the mail or at a gun show or be gifted one from his dear uncle. It is
>illegal for parents to allow their kids to procure their firearms. No state
>or federal regulation now being championed by Senate Democrats would have
>stopped this teen, which is the case for the vast majority of mass
>shootings.
>
>Murphy knows this. Kamala Harris and all the others leading Democrats who
>try to emotionally manipulate Americans to support their restrictions know
>this. All those who smear the NRA as a terrorist organization know this. All
>those who claim that Mitch McConnell has blood on his hands for failing to
>convene the Senate [to] pass a Democratic bill that has absolutely nothing
>remotely to do with the Santa Clarita shooting know this.
>
>– David Harsanyi in Nothing Democrats Are Proposing in Washington Will Stop
>Mass Shootings in California

Leftists have rarely been concerned about the effectiveness of their
proposals. They see shootings as an opportunity to pass gun control
(NOT "safety) legislation- period. There doesn't have to be any
connection between the incident and the legislation. It's about
emotion, not thinking or reason.



Michael Ejercito

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Nov 18, 2019, 10:07:18 AM11/18/19
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"Klaus Schadenfreude" wrote in message
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Indeed.

Here is my comment.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gun-prohibitionists-solutions-wont-make-a-difference-and-theyre-just-fine-with-that/#comment-4379039

It has well-been established that they dfo not want solutions.

Remember back in 2012 when some gangbanger killed a bunch of kids at a
school in Connecticut?

http://www.propublica.org/article/how-the-gun-control-debate-ignores-black-lives

Many people viewed inner-city shootings as an intractable problem. But for
two years, McBride had been spreading awareness about Ceasefire, a nearly
two-decades-old strategy that had upended how police departments dealt with
gang violence. Under Ceasefire, police teamed up with community leaders to
identify the young men most at risk of shooting someone or being shot,
talked to them directly about the risks they faced, offered them support,
and promised a tough crackdown on the groups that continued shooting. In
Boston, the city that developed Ceasefire, the average monthly number of
youth homicides dropped by 63 percent in the two years after it was
launched. The U.S. Department of Justice’s “what works” website for crime
policy had a green check mark next to Ceasefire, labeling it “effective” —
the highest rating and one few programs received.

Avoiding that fact has consequences. Twenty years of government-funded
research has shown there are several promising strategies to prevent murders
of black men, including Ceasefire. They don’t require passing new gun laws,
or an epic fight with the National Rifle Association. What they need — and
often struggle to get — is political support and a bit of money.

Later, other ministers who worked with McBride would get an even blunter
assessment from a White House staffer: There was no political will in the
country to address inner-city violence.

This was total bullshit. In the wake of that shooting in Connecticut,
Operation Ceasefire would have been an easy sell.

Just Wondering

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Nov 18, 2019, 2:42:44 PM11/18/19
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Once again, my challenge to gun grabbers:
1. Pick any act of gun violence that has happened.
2. Pick any proposed new gun control legislation.
Heck, pick all of it.
3. Explain how that legislation would have stopped the violence.
Nobody has even tried to meet the challenge.

!Jones

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Nov 18, 2019, 7:25:22 PM11/18/19
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On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 06:27:45 -0800, in talk.politics.guns "Michael
Ejercito" <meje...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Never mind that not a single one of the gun prohibitionists’ prescriptions
>would have done a single thing to stop the Saugus High School shooter or to
>prevent virtually any other mass shooting that’s taken place.

How about we take your guns?

*You* damn sure aren't doing any good with 'em.

max headroom

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Nov 19, 2019, 1:37:03 AM11/19/19
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In news:0jd6tet51ug07iq5r...@4ax.com, !Jones <x...@y.com> typed:

> On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 06:27:45 -0800, in talk.politics.guns "Michael Ejercito"
> <meje...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> Never mind that not a single one of the gun prohibitionists' prescriptions
>> would have done a single thing to stop the Saugus High School shooter or to
>> prevent virtually any other mass shooting that's taken place.

> How about we take your guns?

How about you fuck off?

> *You* damn sure aren't doing any good with 'em.

You have no idea what he's doing.


Klaus Schadenfreude

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Nov 19, 2019, 7:51:06 AM11/19/19
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On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 18:25:20 -0600, !Jones <x...@y.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 06:27:45 -0800, in talk.politics.guns "Michael
>Ejercito" <meje...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Never mind that not a single one of the gun prohibitionists’ prescriptions
>>would have done a single thing to stop the Saugus High School shooter or to
>>prevent virtually any other mass shooting that’s taken place.
>
>How about we take your guns?

Please do. Here's hoping you show up to do just that

Michael Ejercito

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Nov 19, 2019, 12:26:17 PM11/19/19
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"!Jones" wrote in message
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>On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 06:27:45 -0800, in talk.politics.guns "Michael
>Ejercito" <meje...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>Never mind that not a single one of the gun prohibitionists’ prescriptions
>>would have done a single thing to stop the Saugus High School shooter or
>>to
>>prevent virtually any other mass shooting that’s taken place.

>How about we take your guns?
That would be theft.


Michael

!Jones

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Nov 19, 2019, 7:33:04 PM11/19/19
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On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 09:27:24 -0800, in talk.politics.guns "Michael
Ejercito" <meje...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>"!Jones" wrote in message
>news:0jd6tet51ug07iq5r...@4ax.com...
>
>>On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 06:27:45 -0800, in talk.politics.guns "Michael
>>Ejercito" <meje...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>Never mind that not a single one of the gun prohibitionists’ prescriptions
>>>would have done a single thing to stop the Saugus High School shooter or
>>>to
>>>prevent virtually any other mass shooting that’s taken place.
>
>>How about we take your guns?
>
> That would be theft.

Well, the initial question was: how could we have stopped the Saugus
High School shooter or to [have prevented] virtually any other mass
shooting that’s taken place. My answer was: we take your guns away
from you.

Hey, it ain't exactly like you're *using* them for anything. (Be sure
to call me whenever you actually stop a shooting, OK?) And the bottom
line is that you're usually the ones doing the shooting.

I'm OK with the Australian model. Perhaps even the Swiss model...
dunno, I'd need to see more responsible behavior first.

max headroom

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Nov 19, 2019, 8:49:02 PM11/19/19
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In news:v029tepsln2vs7qsh...@4ax.com, !Jones <x...@y.com> typed:
> I'm OK with the Australian model....

What good would a gun confiscation with a 20% compliance do?


Klaus Schadenfreude

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Nov 20, 2019, 6:16:46 AM11/20/19
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On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 18:33:02 -0600, !Jones <x...@y.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 09:27:24 -0800, in talk.politics.guns "Michael
>Ejercito" <meje...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"!Jones" wrote in message
>>news:0jd6tet51ug07iq5r...@4ax.com...
>>
>>>On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 06:27:45 -0800, in talk.politics.guns "Michael
>>>Ejercito" <meje...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>Never mind that not a single one of the gun prohibitionists’ prescriptions
>>>>would have done a single thing to stop the Saugus High School shooter or
>>>>to
>>>>prevent virtually any other mass shooting that’s taken place.
>>
>>>How about we take your guns?
>>
>> That would be theft.
>
>Well, the initial question was: how could we have stopped the Saugus
>High School shooter or to [have prevented] virtually any other mass
>shooting that’s taken place. My answer was: we take your guns away
>from you.

Who is "we?"

LOL

Michael Ejercito

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"Klaus Schadenfreude" wrote in message
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>On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 18:33:02 -0600, !Jones <x...@y.com> wrote:

>>On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 09:27:24 -0800, in talk.politics.guns "Michael
>>Ejercito" <meje...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"!Jones" wrote in message
>>>news:0jd6tet51ug07iq5r...@4ax.com...
>>>>How about we take your guns?
>>>
>>> That would be theft.
>>
>>Well, the initial question was: how could we have stopped the Saugus
>>High School shooter or to [have prevented] virtually any other mass
>>shooting that’s taken place. My answer was: we take your guns away
>>from you.

>Who is "we?"

The people who failed top disarm criminal gangs like the Crips, the
Mafia, and MS-13.


Michael

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