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Special Care
Jul 13, 2012, 7:01:37 AM7/13/12
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http://www.nospank.net/n-v54.htm
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Join the club.
There's 'no debate' on vivisection either.
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In the 'nospank' article, it was stated that Sweden outlawed spanking
in 1979 and Swedish children are not running riot on the
streets......
The author probably never visited Sweden.
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Still, the USA situation is scary - with 'paddling' in schools allowed
in about one third of the states, mainly the former Confederate
States. The paddle resembles a cricket bat, with holes in it to reduce
air pressure so as to enable the teacher to hit harder on the child's
buttocks.
It keeps the USA prison system profitable, prisons being largely a
commercial enterprise in USA. That's one reason for the fierce
opposition to changing the law. Money is everything.
The 'debaters' who favour beating children are often Christians who
quote the Hebrew proverb against 'sparing the rod.' But then the
Christian 'god' clearly suffers from *multiple personality disorder*.
The 'debaters' don't understand that beating and humiliating children
originated as a military/survivalist necessity, to fill growing young
people with repressed rage and frustration and misery, because unloved
and miserable people make more effective soldiers. Naturally this was
'legitimised' by religions which came into being when the tribes were
engaged in desperate wars for survival. The tribe which abused its
children the most was the one that defeated the tribes that abused
their children less. Those not-so-ancient survivalist emergencies
degenerated into a comptetition between the tribes to become the most
mentally ill tribe, the tribe most viciously abusive toward children,
etc. The winners of that competition in mental illness won the wars
and survived and we are their decendants.
Beating children therefore is associated with physical survival in our
brain circuits.
That angle is never introduced into that debate, partly because it's
so embarrassing. We are descended from the filthiest scum humanity
could produce, because they won the wars. And we are largely
automatons, blindly repeating whatever we associate with physical
survival in our brain circuits.
We 'debate' in compartments, never seeing the whole picture. And that
very compartmentalisation, and the ignorance that goes with it, are
also associated with physical survival.
That's why progress is so slow.
[If Svenne is reading, could he please enlighten us about the
reference to Sweden?]
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Join the club.
There's 'no debate' on vivisection either.
----------------------------------------------------
In the 'nospank' article, it was stated that Sweden outlawed spanking
in 1979 and Swedish children are not running riot on the
streets......
The author probably never visited Sweden.
----------------------------------------------------
Still, the USA situation is scary - with 'paddling' in schools allowed
in about one third of the states, mainly the former Confederate
States. The paddle resembles a cricket bat, with holes in it to reduce
air pressure so as to enable the teacher to hit harder on the child's
buttocks.
It keeps the USA prison system profitable, prisons being largely a
commercial enterprise in USA. That's one reason for the fierce
opposition to changing the law. Money is everything.
The 'debaters' who favour beating children are often Christians who
quote the Hebrew proverb against 'sparing the rod.' But then the
Christian 'god' clearly suffers from *multiple personality disorder*.
The 'debaters' don't understand that beating and humiliating children
originated as a military/survivalist necessity, to fill growing young
people with repressed rage and frustration and misery, because unloved
and miserable people make more effective soldiers. Naturally this was
'legitimised' by religions which came into being when the tribes were
engaged in desperate wars for survival. The tribe which abused its
children the most was the one that defeated the tribes that abused
their children less. Those not-so-ancient survivalist emergencies
degenerated into a comptetition between the tribes to become the most
mentally ill tribe, the tribe most viciously abusive toward children,
etc. The winners of that competition in mental illness won the wars
and survived and we are their decendants.
Beating children therefore is associated with physical survival in our
brain circuits.
That angle is never introduced into that debate, partly because it's
so embarrassing. We are descended from the filthiest scum humanity
could produce, because they won the wars. And we are largely
automatons, blindly repeating whatever we associate with physical
survival in our brain circuits.
We 'debate' in compartments, never seeing the whole picture. And that
very compartmentalisation, and the ignorance that goes with it, are
also associated with physical survival.
That's why progress is so slow.
[If Svenne is reading, could he please enlighten us about the
reference to Sweden?]
Harold P
Jul 13, 2012, 7:35:26 AM7/13/12
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On 13/07/2012 12:01, Special Care wrote:
> In the 'nospank' article, it was stated that Sweden outlawed spanking
> in 1979 and Swedish children are not running riot on the
> streets......
>
You forgot to mention spanking for pleasure.
> In the 'nospank' article, it was stated that Sweden outlawed spanking
> in 1979 and Swedish children are not running riot on the
> streets......
>
Tom
Jul 14, 2012, 5:46:16 AM7/14/12
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On Jul 13, 12:35 pm, Harold P <onetwoth...@taltalk.net> wrote:
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> You forgot to mention spanking for pleasure.
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>
> You forgot to mention spanking for pleasure.
Spanking with agreement and mutual respect between consenting adults
is a valuable therapeutic tool for releasing repressed emotions.
On one occasion my girlfriend agreed to play the role of my mother and
I was the son spanking 'her' for being a bad mother.
Go to a kind-hearted prostitute for such therapy if no one else will
do it for you.
In the case of spanking your mother, you could progressively spank her
harder and then the surrogate mother has a 'code word' or 'code
phrase' which signals that she has had enough and wants you to stop.
For example if you were spanking her progressively harder while
scolding her for being a bad mother, the surrogate mother might say:
"I'm sorry for being a bad mother" and that could be the code phrase
signalling she wants you to stop. Then you can continue to scold her
for being a bad mother, saying she's had her spanking and her apology
is accepted and now she can breastfeed you the way she should have
done, or whatever it is she did wrong that you wish her to correct....
etc. etc.
This is good for you. How many serial rapists could have been
prevented from committing their crimes if they had been given this
form of therapy?
Tom
Jul 17, 2012, 4:55:43 AM7/17/12
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"When will our consciences grow so tender
that we will act to prevent human misery
rather than avenge it?" — Eleanor Roosevelt
"If we are ever to turn toward a kindlier society and a safer world,
a revulsion against the physical punishment of children
would be a good place to start." — Dr. Benjamin Spock
"If we are to teach real peace in this world,
and if we are to carry on a real war against war,
we shall have to begin with the children." — Mahatma Gandhi
"There can be no keener revelation of a society's soul
than the way in which it treats its children." — Nelson Mandela
that we will act to prevent human misery
rather than avenge it?" — Eleanor Roosevelt
"If we are ever to turn toward a kindlier society and a safer world,
a revulsion against the physical punishment of children
would be a good place to start." — Dr. Benjamin Spock
"If we are to teach real peace in this world,
and if we are to carry on a real war against war,
we shall have to begin with the children." — Mahatma Gandhi
"There can be no keener revelation of a society's soul
than the way in which it treats its children." — Nelson Mandela
Brave New Britain
Jul 17, 2012, 6:31:31 AM7/17/12
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most valuable possession a people can have." - Adolf Hitler, "Mein
Kampf"
--
Brave New Britain
The Universal Infant
Jul 20, 2012, 10:24:35 AM7/20/12
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On Jul 17, 10:31 am, Brave New Britain <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
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> "[The People's State] must proclaim the truth that the child is the
> most valuable possession a people can have." - Adolf Hitler, "Mein
> Kampf"
>
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>
> "[The People's State] must proclaim the truth that the child is the
> most valuable possession a people can have." - Adolf Hitler, "Mein
> Kampf"
>
"Give us the child before the age of seven, and he will be ours for
life."
-The Society of Jesus (Jesuits).
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