Re: US and Russia leaders hail neculear arms treaty
James
wrote:
> US President Barack Obama and his Russian counterpart, Dmitry Medvedev, have
> signed a landmark nuclear arms treaty in the Czech capital, Prague.
>
> Wonder how long it will take Nobama to change our flag to that nice white
> surrender one! Certainly his recent changes are not in our interests...
>
> What say you?
I say that if you think moving to 1500 warheads each is disarmament,
you need to review your math.
Even if someone invents an amazing anti ballistic missle technology
that is 75% effective (and that would be a miracle), I don't think
either Russia or the US would like to be on the receiving end of 300+
missles that get through. Even with amazing first strike accuracy
(which doesn't take out missle subs) and a great defensive ABM
system,and a navy that can find and take out boomers, you still have
MAD. Does anyone think that either the US or Russia or China could
survive hits from say, a dozen nukes? One nuc in the atmosphere can
cause an EMP burst that would burn out most electronics in the US/
Russia/China (well one would cover most of continental US, not all). A
nuke on each major city would wipe out a lot of infrastructure.
James
deem...@aol.com
wrote:
> US President Barack Obama and his Russian counterpart, Dmitry Medvedev, have
> signed a landmark nuclear arms treaty in the Czech capital, Prague.
>
> Wonder how long it will take Nobama to change our flag to that nice white
> surrender one! Certainly his recent changes are not in our interests...
>
> What say you?
>
We can both still toast each other and quite a bit of the rest of
the world. How is that some kind of surrender?
Etok
> US President Barack Obama and his Russian counterpart, Dmitry Medvedev,
> have signed a landmark nuclear arms treaty in the Czech capital, Prague.
>
> Wonder how long it will take Nobama to change our flag to that nice
> white surrender one! Certainly his recent changes are not in our
> interests...
>
> What say you?
>
> Ray
OUR flag? You mean the Irish flag?
Oh, sorry. You're posting off topic again. Sigh.
OK another abuse complaint is on its way!
See you under a new ISP, my little bagger buddy.
The Phantom Piper
wrote:
>
> Wonder how long it will take Nobama to change our flag
> to that nice white surrender one! Certainly his recent
> changes are not in our interests...
Are you calling _Ronald Reagan_ a Surrender-Monkey?!?!
Ronald Reagan:
"A nuclear war cannot be won and must never be fought.
No matter how great the obstacles may seem, we must
never stop our efforts to reduce the weapons of war. We
must never stop at all until we see the day when nuclear
arms have been banished from the face of this Earth."
"For the eight years I was president, I never let my dream
of a nuclear-free world fade from my mind."
Ray 'WhiteTrash(! ! ! ! !)': Anti-Reagan-ite.
Choke On It,
The Phantom Piper
Peter Jason
"An Mac Tíre Bán @iol.ie" <rayh(removespamblocker> wrote in
message news:brnrr5dnfagjff3sc...@4ax.com...
> US President Barack Obama and his Russian counterpart,
> Dmitry Medvedev, have
> signed a landmark nuclear arms treaty in the Czech
> capital, Prague.
>
> that nice white
> surrender one! Certainly his recent changes are not in
> our interests...
>
>
> Ray
> --
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpYEK_kYgi4
> "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views,
> but then are shocked and offended to discover that there
> are other views." - William F. Buckley, Jr.
Well, Obama & Putin's puppet have one thing in common; their
respective nations are cold stony broke.
Of course they will agree to cut back on the expensive
munitions business, and then make money by flogging these to
Africa - as usual.
The Phantom Piper
>
> Of course they will agree to cut back on the expensive
> munitions business, and then make money by flogging
> these to Africa - as usual.
You are less than half right - as usual.
The initial effect of this agreement will be
to cause *greater* cost as the programme
of Dismantling and Verification is put into
place. The cost _savings_ will only kick in
after all that is done and the Maintenance
and Crew Manning are no longer needed.
Nuclear and Thermonuclear weapons are
_NOT_ flogged to South Africa, regardless
of whatever dark fantasies lurk in your wee
pickled Throwback Nazi brain.
Sorry, Doktor Strangelove...,
The Phantom Piper
HardySpicer
wrote:
Ironically it was Nukes alone that PREVENTED a world war between the
USSR and the Yanks.
Let everybody have em...
Hardy
Peter Jason
"The Phantom Piper" <ThePhan...@comcast.net> wrote in
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Sorry, Doktor Strangelove...,
The Phantom Piper
Jeeezuz you're a party pooper. Getting rid of the
Neanderthals, Boors, Australopithecines, and anyone else
beneath the rank of albino seems a prospect of great
worthiness. And think of the great light show!
Oh *do* wake up!
The Phantom Piper
>
> Let everybody have em...
Can I use mine on You?
Moving To Failsafe Points,
The Phantom Menace
HardySpicer
wrote:
Yes you can but it would mean that you too would die.
Hence the idea of mutual assured destruction (MAD).
Gott a educate these piper types all the time nowadays...phew!
Didn't you go to a Scottish school?
Hardy
Fred J McCall
<gyans...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 9, 5:25 pm, The Phantom Piper <ThePhantomPi...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> > On Apr 8, 8:03 pm, HardySpicer <gyansor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Let everybody have em...
> >
> > Can I use mine on You?
> >
>
Ok, so Hardly Sapient and The Phantom Phuquewit both die. Anyone see
any down side for the rest of us?
--
Posted via Android
The Phantom Piper
>
> Yes you can but it would mean that you too would die.
I don't care: I'm doing it for the greater glory of Allah.
> Hence the idea of mutual assured destruction (MAD).
Who cares? After I nuke you I'll get 72 Virgins, whilst
*you* will burn in the Hell Of No-Or-Old-Virgins forever.
Ul-ul-ul-ul-ul-ul-ul-ul-UL-UL-UL-UL-*UL*-*UL*-*UL*-*UL*!!!!!!!!!!
Pointing Up The Flaw In Hardy's Plan,
The Phantom Martyr
Ray OHara
"An Mac Tíre Bán @iol.ie" <rayh(removespamblocker> wrote in message
news:brnrr5dnfagjff3sc...@4ax.com...
> US President Barack Obama and his Russian counterpart, Dmitry Medvedev,
> have
> signed a landmark nuclear arms treaty in the Czech capital, Prague.
>
> surrender one! Certainly his recent changes are not in our interests...
>
>
> Ray
It's the same deal Saint Reagan made, cutting Nuke weapons by 1/3rd.
Reagan also wanted to do away with all nukes, he gave a speech to that
effect when in China{he used a teleprompter to give it}
funny how things that were policies Republican were for when Reagan was in
are wrong now.
HardySpicer
> On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 17:14:56 -0700 (PDT), HardySpicer
>
> > On Apr 9, 5:25 pm, The Phantom Piper <ThePhantomPi...@comcast.net>
> > wrote:
> > > On Apr 8, 8:03 pm, HardySpicer <gyansor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Let everybody have em...
>
> > > Can I use mine on You?
>
> > Yes you can but it would mean that you too would die.
>
> Ok, so Hardly Sapient and The Phantom Phuquewit both die. Anyone see
> any down side for the rest of us?
>
> --
> Posted via Android
For you - he has move quite close to you I hear so I would be killing
two birds with one stone!
Now to get AWS to move to the states...
Hardy
HardySpicer
wrote:
> US President Barack Obama and his Russian counterpart, Dmitry Medvedev, have
> signed a landmark nuclear arms treaty in the Czech capital, Prague.
>
> Wonder how long it will take Nobama to change our flag to that nice white
> surrender one! Certainly his recent changes are not in our interests...
>
> What say you?
>
> Ray
> "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views,
> but then are shocked and offended to discover that there
> are other views." - William F. Buckley, Jr.
I would be far happier if each side had say 3 a piece.
That's what I call a reduction, not enough to blow the world up 100
times over.
Hardy
The Phantom Piper
>
> It's the same deal Saint Reagan made, cutting
> Nuke weapons by 1/3rd. Reagan also wanted
> to do away with all nukes, he gave a speech to
> that effect when in China{he used a teleprompter
> to give it} funny how things that were policies
> Republican were for when Reagan was in are
> wrong now.
I already hit him with multiple quotes from Reagan
and his Stepford Wife two days ago. As usual, the
puling coward had nothing to say, and has been doing
his best to pretend he didn't see those Facts ever
since. Like most Rightards, he's merely capable of
spewing back Talking Points force-fed to him earlier
in the day by Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh, and
when confronted by some 'Liberally-Biased' FACTS
he turtles and cowers, hoping the Big Bad Truth will
go away soon and leave him alone, like the Angel Of
Death during the First Passover...
LMAO,
The Phantom Piper
Paul Carr
Another reason to be disappointed in Barack Obama. If I'm not mistaken, he
said that he thinks it's unlikely that all nuclear weapons will be gotten
rid of in his lifetime. Many people would regard Barack Obama as the most
powerful man in the world. No Abe Lincoln is he.
--
Paul Carr
"Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift, that
is why it is called the present." - Master Oogway (Kung Fu Panda).
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Ray OHara
> putting us in a state of weakness...
>
> Ray
How?
he didn't say we wouldn't retaliate.
thousands of tons of napalm and high explosives is good enough for you?
, the U.S. should act like Nazi-Germany?
and as you aren't a citizen, don't say "we" or "us" when refering to
America.
Paul Carr
As I understand it, it's worse than retaliation. In his nuclear posture
review, Obama reserves the right of a nuclear first-strike against states
that he considers not to be in compliance with the nuclear non-proliferation
treaty such as Iran and North Korea (though not Israel of course - they have
nukes but their government won't confirm it). A Martian would conclude that
Obama is making the world a more dangerous place.
--
Paul Carr
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
different results." - Albert Einstein.
Ray OHara
"An Mac T�re B�n @iol.ie" <rayh(removespamblocker> wrote in message
news:1p61s5174mfscsco1...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 22:24:53 +0800, "Paul Carr"
> <worldp...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Ray OHara wrote:
>>> "An Mac T�re B�n @iol.ie" <rayh(removespamblocker> wrote in message
>>> news:brnrr5dnfagjff3sc...@4ax.com...
>>>> US President Barack Obama and his Russian counterpart, Dmitry
>>>> Medvedev, have
>>>> signed a landmark nuclear arms treaty in the Czech capital, Prague.
>>>>
>>>> Wonder how long it will take Nobama to change our flag to that nice
>>>> white surrender one! Certainly his recent changes are not in our
>>>> interests... What say you?
>>>>
>>>> Ray
>>>
>>> It's the same deal Saint Reagan made, cutting Nuke weapons by 1/3rd.
>>> Reagan also wanted to do away with all nukes, he gave a speech to that
>>> effect when in China{he used a teleprompter to give it}
>>> funny how things that were policies Republican were for when Reagan
>>> was in are wrong now.
>>
>>Another reason to be disappointed in Barack Obama. If I'm not mistaken,
>>he
>>said that he thinks it's unlikely that all nuclear weapons will be gotten
>>rid of in his lifetime. Many people would regard Barack Obama as the most
>>powerful man in the world. No Abe Lincoln is he.
>
>
> Ray
he wouldn't be today, nor would TR, the two greatest Repub presidents were
flaming liberals.
the sad truth is the GOP has been taken over by rightwing extremists.
Paul Carr
> "Ray OHara" <raymon...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> "An Mac Tíre Bán @iol.ie" <rayh(removespamblocker> wrote in message
>> news:1p61s5174mfscsco1...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> Right... For starters Lincoln was a Republican...
>>>
>>
>> presidents were flaming liberals.
>>
>
> closely. They certainly wouldn't be Democrats.
>
>>
>> the sad truth is the GOP has been taken over by rightwing extremists.
>>
>
The Democratic Party has been taken over by pussies.
--
Paul Carr
"The greatest glory in living lies not in never falling, but in rising
every time we fall." - Nelson Mandela.
Fred J McCall
<worldp...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Fred J. McCall wrote:
> > "Ray OHara" <raymon...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> news:1p61s5174mfscsco1...@4ax.com...
> >>>
> >>> Right... For starters Lincoln was a Republican...
> >>>
> >>
> >> he wouldn't be today, nor would TR, the two greatest Repub
> >> presidents were flaming liberals.
> >>
> >
> > I'd suggest you need to examine the politics of both men a little
more
> > closely. They certainly wouldn't be Democrats.
> >
> >>
> >> the sad truth is the GOP has been taken over by rightwing
extremists.
> >>
> >
> > And the Democratic Party has been taken over by leftwing
extremists.
>
> The Democratic Party has been taken over by pussies.
>
I just said that...
--
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The Phantom Piper
wrote:
>
> For starters Lincoln was a Republican...
Moron.
Lincoln was the *FIRST* Republican, and he would
run as fast and far from the Repuglikkkan Partei of
today as Jesus would from today's Pro-War, Pro-Gun,
Pro-Death 'Penalty' so-called 'Christians'.
Whacking A Mole,
The Phantom Piper
deem...@aol.com
wrote:
Well, first Republican elected President. Fremont ran in 1856 and
there were Republicans before that.
Just setting the record straight.
PS: Lincoln didn't run as a Republican in 1864. Would've been
an interesting ticket since Johnson was a Democrat.
The Phantom Piper
wrote:
>
> Unsurprisingly, I don't hang on your ever word...
No, you most commonly Hang on your *own* Words...
> Or read your every post...
Yes: your ignorance is nothing if not Wilful!
> Or rush to answer them in any particular order...
Especially when confronted with Facts that
you cannot dismiss and want to hide from...
> I know.. I know... Your crushed...
My crushed *what*?
Speaking With An Idiot,
The Phantom Piper
The Phantom Piper
>
> Well, first Republican elected President.
Right, that's what I meant.
For Christ's sake, Deems: read what
I'm *thinking*, not what I _write_!
> Just setting the record straight.
*Sheesh*...,
The Phantom Piper
conwaycaine
> Whacking A Mole,
It's not a mole you've been whacking..................
Fred J McCall
> > Whacking A Mole,
More of an inchworm, really, although the end result will give him
the vision of a mole........
--
Posted via Android
The Phantom Piper
wrote:
>
> Dangerous ones that have a dark, progressive un-American agenda...
Yes, because we all know how "dark" and "un-American" Progress is...
Dealing With An Idiot,
The Phantom Piper
Ray OHara
"Fred J. McCall" <fjmc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:o8d1s5lu29c90kpt7...@4ax.com...
> "Ray OHara" <raymon...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"An Mac T�re B�n @iol.ie" <rayh(removespamblocker> wrote in message
>>>
>>> Right... For starters Lincoln was a Republican...
>>>
>>
>> were
>>flaming liberals.
>>
>
> closely. They certainly wouldn't be Democrats.
>
>>
>>
>
yes they would.
conwaycaine
"Fred J McCall" <fjmc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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God knows what visions lurk in the mind of that one....................
Question Quigley
> On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 22:24:53 +0800, "Paul Carr"
> <worldp...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Right... For starters Lincoln was a Republican...
>
> Ray
> --
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpYEK_kYgi4
> How's that hopey, changey thing working out for ya?
> - Sarah Palin.
If you know anything about US history, you would know that Lincoln was a
compassionate, progressive and has much more in common with today's liberal
Democrats than the current Republican party. The "Party of Lincoln" is
surely not the party of Palin, Gingrich, Perry, etc.
The dominant, ideological members of today's Republican party were
yesterday's southern Democrats, the ones that short-circuited southern
reconstruction after the Civil War, enacted poll taxes, and lynched blacks.
Southern Democrats moved en masse to the Republican party in the 1960s and
1970s. Some of these are the same folks suggesting that states secede from
the Union. I guess they have pretty short memories.
Since you asked, that hopey, changey thing is working out pretty good.
The Phantom Piper
wrote:
>
> Progress for progress sake is idiotic!
Yeah! We should always Stay The Same and, er,
Not Change or...anything - or even go *backwards*!
Yeah - that's the ticket: let's all stop cooking food
and bathing!!!
Trying To Live In Ray's 'Mind' For A Moment,
The Phantom Piper
La N
> On Apr 12, 7:28 am, An Mac T�re B�n <rayh(removespamblocker>@iol.ie
> wrote:
>>
>> Progress for progress sake is idiotic!
>
> Yeah! We should always Stay The Same and, er,
> Not Change or...anything - or even go *backwards*!
> Yeah - that's the ticket: let's all stop cooking food
> and bathing!!!
>
>
> Trying To Live In Ray's 'Mind' For A Moment,
>
It sucked when they gave women the vote, eh? Not to mention the Civil
Rights movement. "Those people" should know their place. Damned
progressive ideas.
- nil
Cory Bhreckan
> The Phantom Piper wrote:
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Progress for progress sake is idiotic!
>>
>> Yeah! We should always Stay The Same and, er,
>> Not Change or...anything - or even go *backwards*!
>> Yeah - that's the ticket: let's all stop cooking food
>> and bathing!!!
>>
>>
>> Trying To Live In Ray's 'Mind' For A Moment,
>>
>
> It sucked when they gave women the vote, eh? Not to mention the Civil
> Rights movement. "Those people" should know their place. Damned
> progressive ideas.
>
> - nil
>
>
Now even the Irish claim equal rights. The thought!
--
"For the stronger we our houses do build,
The less chance we have of being killed." - William Topaz McGonagall
http://www.myspace.com/corryvreckan
Question Quigley
"An Mac Tíre Bán @iol.ie" <rayh(removespamblocker> wrote in message
news:1p61s5174mfscsco1...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 22:24:53 +0800, "Paul Carr"
> <worldp...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Right... For starters Lincoln was a Republican...
>
> Ray
> --
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpYEK_kYgi4
> How's that hopey, changey thing working out for ya?
> - Sarah Palin.
If you know anything about US history, you would know that Lincoln was a
compassionate, progressive and has much more in common with today's liberal
Democrats than the current Republican party. The "Party of Lincoln" is
surely not the party of Palin, Gingrich, Perry, etc.
The dominant, ideological members of today's Republican party were
yesterday's southern Democrats, the ones that short-circuited southern
reconstruction after the Civil War, enacted poll taxes, and lynched blacks.
Southern Democrats moved en masse to the Republican party in the 1960s and
1970s.
Since you asked, that hopey, changey thing is working out pretty good.
The Phantom Piper
>
> It sucked when they gave women the vote, eh?
> Not to mention the Civil Rights movement.
> "Those people" should know their place.
> Damned progressive ideas.
And Cannibalism! Don't even *talk* to me
about how these damned Progressives are
always changing our time-honoured ways
and traditions!
Angry And Confused,
The Phantom Conservatard